Mike Pence wrote about being victimized by the movie Disney movie "Mulan" in 1999

Mike Pence wrote about being victimized by the movie Disney movie "Mulan" in 1999.

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is this real?

I know this word has been tainted by liberal idpol circles, but Pence is a genuine chauvinist.

it reads like it was written by every angry guy I knew in high school.

He didn't even proofread the thing.

Sounds like he is just using the movie as a hook for a boring fanfiction about military orgies.

What's funnier is that Mulan is based on a legendary warrior-woman in Chinese history/legend

So he's upset that """liberals""" believe that women are capable in conflict from an animated movie based on a legend that's been believed/cherished by people for centuries

American conservatives hate tradition.

American conservatives are my allies now?

Look at this fedoralord

which right wing nutjob will Disney unintentionally trigger next?

The live action Mulan they're making at the moment probably

I'm always seeing conservatives whining about fiction, I dont pretend to understand why they even care.

disney are /ourguys/

Which I can't wait for personally, because people are just going to remind them that their "LEFTISTS BELIEVE WOMEN CAN FIGHT, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS" is in direct contradiction to

I suppose they can say that China has been open to """leftism""" for centuries or some shit

Speaking of Harry Potter, I had a friend growing up who wasn't allowed to read it or see the movies because his conservative parents said it taught kids evil satanic witchcraft. lmao

Really makes the thinker tinker

When I was a boy, the parents freaked out about Doom. They never seemed to care that the player is the good guy, KILLING the evil demons.

Of course they will, China is communist, the name of the Party says so.

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Pure autism.

Isn't it incredibly easy to prove that there's not much idealistic about the thing he has a problem with?

It's not even that it's idealistic, it's that the story itself has actual history to it. He's complaining people believe women can fight now, in the context of a story about a woman who was a soldier that's been told down through the centuries in China.

My grandma was talking about him yesterday and how it's right that he makes his wife go everywhere with him because of some weird Christian thing. Didn't make too much sense to me and just seemed like another method of control and wasn't very equal.

She defended it (since the media was unfairly attacking him or something for it).

I legitimately hate Mike Pence.

Similar thing happened with me and zatch bell, but my dad helped me out on that one.

I've seen so many people on chans sperg about this topic. Every time it baffles me like the first time. It's like they're actually trying to convince themselves that women can't fight. No idea why.

You too? This texas girl I know told me the same story.

Sometimes I wonder if American liberals are so insufferable because these totalitarian lunatics are their main exposure to different opinions.

Gave me goosebumps.

that's exactly the reason, remember how annoying atheists were back then?

american politics is a cancer upon the world

Is anyone really surprised?

Disney should just make a Joan d'Arc movie AND THEY BETTER NOT INCLUDE A LOVE INTEREST just to shut them up.

Women can't fight though. At best they can be in some odd auxiliary positions.

Women can fight just fine, especially in modern day warfare which is mainly just laying in concealed places waiting for the enemy to show up and try to hit them with bullets.

Physical combat and close quarters combat is just a small part of fighting and not many people are cut out for it, man or woman.

like pottery

Your average american soldier spends most of his time hiding behind walls waiting for air support. Women can do that just as easily as men can.

You don't need much upper body strength to use a firearm and call in air strikes.

Elite military positions that women can't do are also impossible for the vast majority of men.

That was pretty common during that time
t. had my harry potter books and pokemon cards burned

S A V A G E

It's actually 30%.

They can though you generally don't want them in mixed units. They do also have higher casualty rates. I don't know about special forces, but that's probably one area you'd only want them in support roles.

no but you need to be able to carry a full set of gear and be able to not let that slow you down lol

Honestly maybe Americans might stop invading fucking everyone if they knew that cute 18 year old blondes were going to get themselves blown to pieces in the process.

I don't really care. Just pointing out they have higher casualty rates than men. Americans would certainly be less on board with invading everyone if the TV actually showed dead soldiers and civilians.

cute girls dont join the military lmfao

The soviets kept woman military personnel back for a reason and when they were forced to actually use them they lost a staggering amount of them

Wonder who else lot a staggering number of soldiers per sniper

Mike…….

Then why are you posting

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The Soviets had massive losses regardless of sex, they managed warfare like modern Russians play Dota.

Because Holla Forums is where I spend my time when I'm not working or sleeping.

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Quit playing that casual shit and pick up Quake.

Lmfao no they didn't that is absolute bullshit. They put them in as snipers and they killed well over twice the number of the snipers on the field. At least five times over.

Gee I wonder who could do that

modern warfare is cuck warfare tho
how many rifles do you see with attached bayonets?
killing should be close and personal
like in the Great War's trench warfare when bayonet was the best friend of a soldier

Females were constantly kept back by the Soviets and when they were moved up, most were made sure to be heavily covered and moved out of direct engagement. It was mostly the men who filled most sniper roles, like Ivan Sidorenko, who killed the most comparatively to percent total losses.

That isn't weakness that is called strategy.


No one is denying this. However saying the snipers of the soviet union who were women weren't effective soldiers is utterly preposterous and reeking of agenda

Stop posting

I don't care how we do it, but congressmen/leaders should be required to fight on the front lines of any war they start.

That wasn't "one" outlier either, women were highly effective snipers, some scoring deaths within the range normally of around 300+

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So women that wanted to fight were denied and some that didn't were forced to. That tells me the Soviet's managed recruitment poorly more than anything.

Thanks, I hadn't had my daily "laugh at Amerifats" moment today.

I hate my fucking country.

That's what nobody in this thread is talking about. That Pence is saying "Yes, military rape is happening, but the solution isn't punishing the troops that do that"

Like what in the fuck, what kind of troops does he think a nation should even have? Isn't that "disrespecting the troops", the highest republican sin, to suggest they're all mindless rapists?

And all of this over a fucking animated Disney movie about an old Chinese legend, he apparently doesn't know existed.

Male snipers weren't afforded as much and still did comparatively better even when they moved directly with there units

Some, and still comparatively less well percentage wise to the men when losses were factored in.


Stalin's policies held that women’s patriotic duty did not include combat until it became absolutely necessary and that it was in fact a great duty to serve as support and complete the necessary duties at home such as agriculture which was extremely necessary during the war as the men could not work the fields.

That's actually flat out not true. Many women of the red army were fucking annihilating nazis with support by men.

You have to work as a team to counter the the problems women have with the problems men have. And really, more than enough women who killed hundreds of nazi soldiers in this situation more than enough proves that women can be capable of fighting.

It requires strategy and the right basic training, but a strong military force NEVER actually says "You're weak go away", it counters each weakness and works together as a unit.

It's what they did and in many cases it was successful above and beyond.

Disrespecting the legacies of Red Army snipers who gave their lives to mow down a bunch of nazi fucks is low man. They deserve all the historical credit for their achievements

Good post

This is Life in America.

Sure, go ahead and respect what they did, I have no problem with that. Just don't act like that's somehow a justification for throwing woman out into combat when you have a surplus of men who can do it better. Woman were only used when it became necessary to, not because Stalin looked down and thought "Hey, wouldn't it be nice if we put some women in the army". Its not about proving capability, its basic biological differences that put men in a better position.

If a woman wants to fight I don't see any good reason to not let her.

This. I've been cringing at all "we're like living in Handmaid's Tale guise I mean it" shit lately but Mike Pence would genuinely try to make that shit a reality imo.

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Losing someone in the field or having someone get injured is a lot more then leaving them in the dirt or telling them to walk it off. You need to allocate resources as efficiently as you can during war, not just let things happen because its nice or "The right thing to do". If a woman wants to be a pilot or work in some indirect military position then fine, but ground combat (snipers do move with the unit) should mostly be left to men.

LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS

Yeah, no we wouldn't, a lot of people here want blood, at least they do here in Penceland.

TO DEFEAT THE HUNS

It was largely footage from the Vietnam war that pushed public opinion against it. I guess the high causalities didn't help either.

That reminds me - the Socialist Party of America right before the US entered WWI (and it was still "unsure" about entering) one of their candidates ran on a platform that would make all decisions on going to war decided on a vote by all citizens & if the country goes to war the soldiers will come from those who voted "yes."

You misunderstood my post


Reread it

It was mostly the draft. We need to bring back the draft so every single young person and their families have a stake in war. But the capitalists will never make that mistake again.

Thucydides's History of the Peloponnesian War should really be required reading for anyone who thinks such a strategy is a panacea for war, particularly the section on the war with Syracuse. The voting populace of Athens was manipulated by a skillful and foolish orator into thinking that they could go across the Mediterranean and take on another democracy in the middle of war with Sparta, and they paid dearly for it.

So which one of you here posted this to Reddit

The problem with Soviet snipers is that they likely inflated their numbers like crazy (they were allowed to raise up morale) and literally made up shit, like the whole sniper Konig story. Not that all sides didn't do it, but the Soviets didn't even bothered to make airtight stories.

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