Do I belong here?

I'm not a communist.
What I want is a sector of non-government worker and consumer cooperatives to replace regular capitalistic businesses.
I also support a medium-sized government.
Am I leftist enough to be here?

Well we've got a hoxhafag who thinks marxism is bullshit and mutualists and nazbols so I guess. Just prepeare to be bullied.

You might be interested in this guy.

Yes.
Use the yugoslav flag (general market socialism with a state, like you described) or the mutualism flag (anarchism with cooperative).
Also read the FAQ and feel free to ask questions.
Also prepare to be bullied because everybody thinks everyone else is wrong.
A flag might help people identify what you believe when you are new, but you dont have to use it.

Ah, yes, the gateway drug.
Sure thing you're not a communist. Yet.

TFW your property mentions the nazbols, but forgets about the unique one.

You are most welcome. Just be prepared for certain victims of an infantile disorder to complain about the value form.

I think if you stick around long enough, you will realise the answer is to have no government and only co-operatives.

I suggest you read The Conquest of Bread by Peter Kropotkin.

And the spooky meme book

That's wrong tho

I watched Wolff's intro to Marxism lecture and now I'm a communist. I wonder how many people got into leftism through him.

These two really aren't compatible at all.

*yawn* read the post again

There's no "purity test" if that's what you're asking, but everyone constantly makes fun of everyone else, so just be prepared.

Well you are a Social Democrat, which means you are a capitalist. Just don't call yourself a socialist and we are going to be fine.

Ah, how many times have i told myself that in the past.

Except he support a full coop economy, so he's a market socialist. Dumb tankie.

What? Read the post. He's a market socialist.


You belong here. We need more of your type in all candor.

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I think Pan-Leftism is likely the best strategy right now to seize upon the current potential in this political climate, and you sound fine to me. Then again, I'm basically the deformed child the rest of the board hides in the basement already so maybe I'm not the best one to ask.

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You're already more socialist than half the posters here

Besides, original SocDems where more about worker control through unions and work councils, the modern welfare-state tendency with high taxes and minimum wage is quite a modern version

Communists are the worst communists, don't worry.


You're a capitalist too, quit your bitching.

So what you can deduce from this thread is that the phrase "communist" is contentious here and if you want to insult somebody you call them a capitalist.

Says Mr. Tank "Social Democracy at the end of a gun"

epic meme

that's why all SocDem-ish marxists like Kautsky denounced the USSR? If you seriously think that the existence of some expression of the value form deducts a Social Democracy you are a reductionist retard

Oh please tell us more about how the USSR was totally better that that the socdems offered.

You have 10 seconds to explain what the USSR offered that wasn't social democracy without the democracy.

everyone can post here

This is from Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott so it's not a completely generic ML/tankie source

I don't care if people don't wanna use the word socialism to describe the USSR, but saying it was just like a social democracy is fucking retarded on so many levels.

I did.