Tfw 27 y/o khv wagecuck

Fuck man… That hurts. Feels bad to be reminded I'm being shat on by the only political movement that I identify with.

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Wtf is a khv?

kissless handholdless virgin

Kissless hugless virgin.

Fuck, I'm really sad too. I really liked listening to that podcast

You're the OP

There's a reason they said sexbots should be thing. It's not like they said it wasn't a real problem with young western men, just that the chud response to it makes them shitty people.

You deserve it for being the kind of retard who can't search the catalog for the chapo thread tbh

Did you miss the part where they blamed liberals for pretending it wasn't a real issue?

I think they were talking about the aut-right specifically, not every wizard and wizard-in-training.

As in, the virgin aut-right largely brought their loneliness on themselves and deserve it. Which is true.

It's not divided along political lines you cunt

we need mommissars to bring these fine men out of their shells and heal the psychic wounds of molochian violence

The sexbots response is it a bit bullshit. How can you expect that answer to satisfy people, its like saying replicators are the answer to African hunger

No, it's

they get paid $63,000 plus a month. They're drowning in pussy. How can they relate to you.

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Not that capitalism is preferable, but I can't help but view a post-capitalist society as maintaining implicit hierarchies based on social capital, like high school all over again. At least you don't have to deal with wage labor once capitalism is over.

How can anyone relate to you

This

Let me refresh your memory of roughly what was said

This is a very different conversation than "lol fuck every lonely dude". Never said they offered a good solution but it's pretty retarded for you to expect them to when nobody has a solution except for the vague idea that socialism leads to less alienation

Well think of a fucking solution then

They're pretty below average looking dudes heavy into internet culture. One of them has blatant autism. I think maybe one of them gets tons of action while the other two are in committed relationships that's pretty different to being a player (though I know to a virgin there feels like there is no difference).

I actually partied with them and they're not even that fun

women over the age of 30 assigned several failsons to raise with love and care and bring them into the fold with their feminine power

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I mean I think we should. It will probably deal with how cities and work culture is structured. Better knit, more accessible communities encourage less alienation.

I'm just saying that being upset they didn't solve the issue while speaking on it tangentially on a comedy podcast is pretty naive.

its PSYCHIC VIOLENCE that men are raised with absentee fathers and stressed mothers forced into wage labor. we need to bring back real feminism and let the silk weavers weave their silk

Lol yeah that's basically how Matt parties irl.

Absolute bullshit. They have their shitty views and personality precisely because of the bitterness and aggression brought on by loneliness, which of course later becomes self-fulfilling.
No one deserves to be lonely.

Which shouldn't be a point of pride or derision. Ours are just the result of different circumstances.

Hi Holla Forums.

Yes, their political affiliations have pretty much outed them as shitheads that really don't deserve love.

Channel your sexual frustration in to your work for communism.

Besides unless you really love someone then sex is utterly shit imo. You might as well masturbate.

Stick your dick in a grill

This.


Again, their radicalisation follows their alienation. The reason they're a virgin past a socially-acceptable age isn't because they can't stop shrieking about black-on-white crime stats in social settings like a Tourettes victim

I will openly deride people who work to make my material conditions worse. Understanding does not mean putting on shows of support and forced empathy bordering on the paternalistic.

The most I can say is that one of our goals is to decrease alienation. Anything else would be performative

remember: it is the duty of all young manlets to transition to female and cure these men of their disease with tender care and earnest love

Haha, I guess that one concession completely absolves them of shitting on marginalized proles.

Chapo's social crtique is high school teir clique political analysis.

I don't think they're actually as outspoken as they pretend to be user.

I legit hate that aspect of the podcast. I remember actually feeling a bit depressed after one or two episodes where they really attacked this "archetype".

I love it

You sound like feminist "socialists" who pretend the entire political left should be working on abortion only or some shit. No, I will not circlejerk with you over how nice it would be to have a safe space and be PC about your specific set of problems.

I don't think SEXBOTS and they just need to git gud (fucking virgins lmao) is much better than liberals asking what a KHHV is

Clean yourself up and get out. Also if you're stuck in the same old shitty small town you grew up in - get the fuck out now. If you're able to then going to uni is a great way of getting a fresh start. If you can't do that you can still always get a job (hopefully) in another place and meet girls. Put on some nice clothes, look clean and I'm honestly 100% sure most of them will meet some one.

I was able to and I don't have the looks nor the charm. I know just be yourself is idiotic but try and be your best self.

So how do we mid 20's khv change?

Honestly, what do they do with the money? That's a genuine question and if they're not forthcoming with an answer that's very concerning.

why?

It's funny because the podcast that the people who are actually upset about this want would be virtually unrecognizable from some idpol podcast like hellbent. They'd just be screeching about a different topic that they think the rest of the left isn't taking seriously enough for them

I do listen to the podcast and enjoy it but yeah I don't really get why it seems so HYPED on here.

It's not so good that it deserves $60,000 every month

acquire capital

It's immoral to be rich.

They live with it? Split over the whole group they don't even make that much for NYC, certainly not the sort of media elite people pretend they are

back to reddit or Holla Forums, either one is fine with me

Holla Forums, you're supposed to actually understand our worldview and critiques before you attempt to "subvert" this board or whatever.

earning that much dosh they should be investing it to further leftist causes in the US.

No fucking joke. They could all easily split half of that money (probably less than that even) and still live real good lives.

Meet qt's by getting involved in local politics

Have you ever lived in new york?

investing it in property and stock so that their children will be well set for the future.


I would say the problem is that their production budget is incredibly minor compared to the amount of revenue so the rest of the money must be being used as their income. Seems to me that they are in an excellent place to expand and create an entire system of leftist podcasts/youtube videos/magazines but I guess that's pretty risky

I live in New York, it's plenty to live on, dickweed. There's five of them, right? That's over $154,000 a year "Not that much for NYC" please fuck off trust fund asshole.

You don't. The following premises generally hold in advanced capitalist countries:


To put it bluntly: KHVs really are so bad in the eyes of women that they are undeserving of love. They are too unattractive and too low in status, and they probably have no means to change this.

It's $154,000 a year, moron.

so the massive amount of donations they receive is really just being used to pay landlords in NYC? wow I wonder if their fans are happy about that

No, they shouldn't? No one has a moral obligation to support other causes just because they identify as leftists. Take your lifestylists "dude give your money away" nonsense elsewhere.

Not me personally no but I do know people that live pretty nice lives there and don't earn even near that much.

Thats $25,000 split evenly

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seek the company of your elder brothers. they will teach you how to be a man, and then you will be ready to accept a woman

Learn to do math or kys projecting faggots. They're not even splitting three ways anymore since there's three other semi-regulars on the cast

I don't put on any shows or have any forced empathy. I have genuine empathy for their suffering and I understand why they're ignorant. If they fight against me then of course they're my enemy, but the ironic thing is they are actually fighting against their self-interests.

Go out where?
Become a debt slave with a likely useless decree just to meet people?
That's not addressing the problem for those who have tried and failed or too scared to try at all.

Some serious hello fellow leftists-ing ITT

nowhere

Pretty weird you're on a left board and think you can be moral and rich under capitalism.
currentaffairs.org/2017/03/its-basically-just-immoral-to-be-rich


It's $154,000 a year after being split, overall it's $770,844.

Split five ways it's $154,000. Please tell me how I'm wrong.

Unfortunately, it doesn't fix the problem of 80% of men being unattractive. At least the unattractive would not have to deal with the other problems of capitalism, but it won't fix their girl problems.

I empathize with you, and I'm not going to give you any shit advice. It's bleak and it sucks. Maybe it'll happen and maybe it won't. Life's a sick game and I hope you get some someday.

fuck this fucking shit

They fucking should if they're serious about anything. Otherwise they're no better than whining liberals who do nothing and live lavishly by writing op-eds on the "workers struggle".

Fuck that shit. Even I donate to causes and I earn next to nothing.

implying transforming the material conditions won't transform the psychological conditions

dirtbag left is causing some serious asspain among the aut-right

Exhibits 1&2:
jacobitemag.com/2017/05/26/chapo-traphouse-will-never-be-edgy/
dailystormer.com/trs-ripoff-podcast-chapo-trap-house-making-63000-a-month-for-their-corporate-product/

You're just figuring this out now?

Your class isn't based on how much money you have. Go back and read Marx

the insane culture which holds perception over action has twisted the concept of attraction into a mere physical response, as if we are animals. no matter what a man looks like, if he has the strong masculine spirit, women will be attracted to them even if they don't admit it to their girlfriends

Get hench.

Ok, fellow trans-proletariat.

I've been suspicious of that (and pretty much confirmed that most of them are), but hoping they'd role out at least something.

Felix used to compulsively listen to Eminem albums. Eminem fans were the alt right before they had a word for it.

I'm a huge rap fan and pretty much everyone that wasn't an Eminem fan felt his fans were angry, crazy, racist af. He'd have probably bashed blacks too if Dre wasn't producing him.


What?! Yeah I support abortion rights but I'm under no illusions that liberals only do so because it makes women better workers since 99% of abortions are done for economic reasons.

You virtue signaling opportunities are getting called out now because the struggle is getting realer by the day.

Can't wait to see Chapo canceled, they were never really leftist save for one.

First someone tells me split three ways they have 154k, then you tell me 5? Someone's making shit up (and anyway I said 6)

LMAO WHO'S GOING TO CANCEL IT

WHY WOULD THEY EVEN STOP

Are you legitimately retarded? I work for a wage. I do not employ others. There is no universe in which I am anything but a prole, fucking newfag

The amount of people shitting on chapo for mocking them not just losing it in high school is fucking hilarious

Go respond to be about how I'm alienating the noble white aspie

I'm talking about the sort of personality traits that give people a predisposition for right-wing politics.

How you react to things says a lot about you. What the aut-right have revealed about themselves is that they weren't good people to begin with. A socially awkward shithead is still a shithead.

Protip: you're basically talking about testosterone levels, which are genetic.


You had better hope you are right, or we will have a severe problem on our hands with even more radicalized nogf males than we currently have.

If you had lurked or read our theory a bit before astroturfing it wouldn't come off as weird. Show some dedication in this "hobby" of yours, as you wonder why no one wants to hang out with you irl.

I have a solution

fucking murder

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even a low T man can embody the noble spirit of masculinity. it goes beyond mere physical things like muh facial hair and muh muscles

Y'ALL ARE BITCHING ABOUT VIRGINITY AND COMPLAINING ABOUT FIRST WORLD WORKER LMFAO

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Unruhe please leave

This isn't rocket science.

$64,237 * 12 = $770, 844 / 5 = $154,00

Divide it by 6 and it's still $128, 474

I mean, the fucking cretinous pricks who claim "that's nothing in NY dude lmao."

Really weird how no one here seems to think it's odd how much money these people get (who's paying it?) and none of it is accounted for.

Everyone left you for Twitter, get over it

Boo Hoo

Yeah, you're right, do nothing, just get paid six figures and write op-eds.

They shill/donate to DSA and I'm pretty sure they're working with what's his name (escapes me at the moment) on the leftist thinktank project

You're a cretin.

Your idea that leftists in general, let alone mild social-democrats as they are, are speaking in 1920s Comintern language is hilarious, and makes your entire goal here very transparent.

I misread and thought you were talking about the whole "if you don't fight for virgin rights you don't belong in the movement". I deleted the post since it isn't relevant.

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No, the shit personality preceded the shitty views. How you react to things says a lot about your character. Once again, being socially awkward doesn't translate to being a good person deep down. These people are little tyrants denied their worst tendencies

Loneliness is too good for them. Right-wingers deserve a bullet in the head.

This

No one is asking them to put their financial security at risk but damn they could at least try to promote other cause, like earnestly. Damn even liberals with their causes like PETA take their causes more seriously

Prove it.

You're thinking of Bruenig, by the way, who also seems to be getting obscene money (nearly $7,000 a month) to shit out a couple of blog posts every month.

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You bitch in every chapo thread

You legitimately have autism dude it's a podcast

Fuck off Molly

What are you talking about? What's my goal?

That's the stuff they write about where I live. I'm not American

Chapo deserves more than $68,000+ a month

they deserve double

This.

Nobody gives a shit about this place anymore.

Kahina is also a flaming hypocrite heiress, and legitimately mentally ill. But you can't just blame everything on her.

Are you from tumblr? There were almost no dudes his age or near his age that weren't eminem fans growing up. There rest of your post is braindead drivel completely missing the point about the purposeful balkanization of leftist movements where everyone tries to glorify their own pet project that is only tangentially tied to class struggle over the movement as a whole.

ITT: Holla Forumstards who think being a Socialist means donating all your money away thinking they're fooling anyone

I can compare you to her all I want

Yeah, and it shows what a cretinous dickweed you are to do it.

Nothing preceded the other. The Base and superstructure are intertwined.

It's a cycle and leftists can break it.

And people like you all try to paint no gf men as all being alt right so you can have a socially acceptable group to take your frustration out on.

When I listen to Chapo everything they say drips with distain for anyone that doesn't share their views.

They all sound exactly like the guys I'd get into fights with for teasing the special ed kids.

How? You're making conspiracy theories about a podcast my man

Nobody wants to listen to you everyone wants to listen to chapo just get over yourself and shut up

Lol I don't even live in the first world. And every day I talk to retards like you bitching about getting your fucking dicks wet while geopolitical disasters go on around the world make me believe mao more.

Why do you believe shitheads cannot be reformed though?

Yeah you have autism

ITT: Left-wing deviations. It is glorious to be rich.

t. Deng Xiaoping

This takes the cake for the worst misinterpretation of base/superstructure posted on /leftypol this year.

I would be extremely surprised if you can give a good definition of the prole/bouge distinction

It's not a conspiracy. I asked what they spend their money on. I assume they spend it on themselves, and I'm simply saying that's wrong.

The 20th century ended 17 years ago, user. The economic crisis was 9 years ago.

The idea of "first world" workers all being "middle class" office workers couldn't be more out of date.

as someone who's in the practically same situation, realize that they're not shitting on you personally but on those who let the fact of their khv-ness domninate their whole being
the incel/volcel people are a great example because when you're using technical-sounding words instead of "I'm not fucking" that's a sign something's not right.

also, it's weird and kinda fucked up and kinda sad, let's not pretend like some fat people do with HAES bullshit

If you're referring to me (>>1779078) then I'm not a Holla Forumstard. But are you honestly telling me with a straight face that if you earn over $60,000 dollars A MONTH doing a podcast where you bitch about how America and the world is neolib. Then you have literally no, not even the slightest, obligation to actually send SOME money somewhere?

Are you kidding me? I'm not talking fucking charity, I'm talking to political causes. They need money too, they don't run on kindness.

I kinda agree Eminem's albums were must haves for edgy teens in the late 90s and early 2000s. Liking it once upon a time doesn't make anyone more likely to be alt-right or whatever.

Does the Sinaloa Cartel know that they are making money off their bosses' nickname?

Lmao no. I'm not the fucking chapo defense league I thought you had a serious question and I thought I had a helpful answer for you. Outside of friendly exchange I have no imperative to research for you

Audio equipment. Hosting events and talks, (Harvard etc). Funding think tanks, funding political parties (Current Labour, Bernie, DSA, etc), helping other Journalists, Travel expenses, and lastly themselves.

If they aren't just saving it up.

Excuse me I really couldn't care less that everyone else around his was an Eminem fan too. Which sounds like complete horseshit.

That Eminem music REEKS of alt right thinking. If your music tastes are defined by your friends then it's the MESSAGE in the music you are buying into. There are a whole lot of other rapper you know.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

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Is this just speculation?

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No

Does one have provenance over the other?

They talk about donating/being involved with DSA several times on the pod lol

And now I'm supposed to be offended at a dude for making 80k? How much money is a socialist "allowed" to earn? Where'd all these leftists come from that have a lolbert understanding of class relations?

It might be possible to reform them, but it isn't worth the effort.

That's a lot of energy put forth for a very dubious reward.

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A lot of wizards deserve their suffering because they are narcissists with unrealistic standards. If this doesn't apply to you, don't feel attacked.

Then how do you know?


Where do you get 80k from, and where do you get off acting like that's not a lot? It's at least $128,000, and guess what trust fund brat, $80,000 a year is very good money.

what's the alternative though extermination? they aren't all going to die fighting in a revolution

I'm just incredibly annoyed by people that bitch, bitch and bitch but don't organize themselves and dont even want to send a few dollars.

What the fuck do they want to do then? Other people should do stuff without their help?

They say it all the time. On and off the podcast

The low quality false-flagging here is the consequence of you dumbasses never engaging with socialist ideas beyond sharing "isn't it ironic that Zizek is a communist but you have to pay money to buy his books?" memes on Facebook. Don't come back until you can at least use our language convincingly.

BECAUSE THEY LITERALLY SAID THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY GOES SO MANY FUCKING TIMES ALREADY

currentaffairs.org/2017/03/its-basically-just-immoral-to-be-rich


Oh good they said it.

You.FLAC

More specifically 84k. I got it from simple math

Gen albums about killing his wife and gays isn't alt right. Sure buddy.

Mother fucker that shit was proto facisit from the jump.

That probably why he's all but disappeared even though he was the most successful rapper of all time.

The alt right and neo Nazis are born from alienated white people,

Let them rot.

Shut the fuck up dear god

I'm both organized and donate money. Now what?

How many people are you dividing it between, and why do you act like $84,000 a year is not very good money?

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I've never listed to Chapo, but I doubt it was as bad as you say user. Why are you a khv, ugly, autistic, or both?

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Now we mock you for being super lame unlike the good boys over at CTH.

Oh, and you can stop projecting dumbass. I'm not and have never been a "trust fund" anything. But I'm also not a bootstraps dipshit going to rant about how I had to "work for what I have blah blah blah"

You're seriously just a liberal if your understanding of class is sincere.

GETTING LAID DOESN'T MATTER QUIT BITCHING ABOUT SOCIALISM AND MATERIAL IMPACTS ON LIFE WHEN YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT FUCKING MEANS

Seriously, fuck off back to tumblr or go look up fucking chart performances for eminem singles and cds. He didn't have a niche market, dumbass

Is that supposed to be me? I'm not the one getting endlessly but hurt about someone saying Eminem was proto alt-right

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Lmao next thing you faggots are gonna do is bitch about Piss Pig when he was in the fucking YPG

I am not a virgin, but I've only ever been in love with one girl.
Mainly my issue are aspergers, depression, and no high school education, and generally no way to support myself. Suicide comes up in my mind a lot.

No one gives a shit about this one left-wing piece of literature you've read

It's very weird that you don't consider $80,000 a year good money if you're not at least upper middle class. Most people I've encountered who have this unrealistic attitude toward money come from money.

I'm no ranting about bootstraps in any way, and I'm not talking about class when I say it's immoral to be rich.

I never said he was niche fuck face. I said in an earlier post he was the most successful rapper of all time.

There is just a shit ton of young white men that are proto fascist. Mother fucker Eminem admits him fucking self he's as successful as he is because he's white.

Did you not hear me?

I told you to shut the fuck up

I didn't pretend it was "not very good money". I'm challenging you to provide where you think the cutoff for "acceptable" money is. How much money before someone becomes part of the bourgeoisie, "leftist"?

Base/superstructure has nothing to do with it.

That's not what I was claiming at all.

I'm saying no gf alt-right chuds deserve their loneliness because they're shitheads.

They're kikes.

Which was preceded by the shitty life and loneliness. I'm not implying they're good people, I'm saying they are people who have experienced things that make them have a shitty personality and believe shitty things.
You moralistic dehumanizing is going to help the world, it's just adopting the traits of your enemy and pretending like you're better.

Try not to act like a catty teenager.

It has much more to do with "getting your fucking dicks wet" my dude, and you thinking like shows how little you get it.

Just Holla Forums-tier tbh.

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what happens if people are born into that set of personality under socialism?

So you admit you're just tumblr

They have that in common with the woman Hitler married then

Do you know how many people in poverty fuck you complete god damn disgrace

Try not to act like a catty teenager.

Look up birthrates by socioeconomic status, then off yourself

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Yeah, clearly no one in the thread has read it aside from me, because they keep repeating the same shit about how sophisticated their understanding of class is rather than engaging with the fact that everyone in Chapo is now rich, and they have to choose whether or to continue being rich and immoral.


For a working number actually read this article.
currentaffairs.org/2017/03/its-basically-just-immoral-to-be-rich

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Note that they're frustrated because they can't find a mate.

It works itself out.

Huh, never thought of it like that.

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You don't have to be a tumblrina to see how fucking anti-proletarian the EXTREME hatred of women and homophobia Eminem was peddling

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mutations user

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Are you OP? He was clear about being a virgin.

I can relate to the one girl and depression fam. I can get laid easy because I'm good looking and live in a large city, but I'm lonely is shit and I feel more alone when I'm fucking a girl than I do when I'm shitposting here and I fucked up the only relationship I've had.

My point was that economic class isn't tied to how much of a wage you make, it's your relation to wages in the first place.

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Poormies have a lot of kids for a reason: pussy is easy to get for most people. Adults that die virgins are actually extremely rare, unless you live in Japan.

I know the majority of wizards are people that need life help, but the remainder are some of the biggest lumpens in existence.

No kidding, and once again that's not the point I'm discussing in this thread.

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Are you autistic or just trolling? Do you think Eminem really killed his wife or something?

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A current affairs article didn't redefine class relations

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It's literally an integral part of human fulfillment. Specifically a satisfying sex-life and experiencing intimacy.

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Yes
But in those countries there is no feminism. Without feminism womenHAVE marry men under terms almost completely dictated by men to get access to markets, they can't effectively sell their own wage labor.

Goddamn saying women are rejecting men in mass in first world countries doesn't dimish the legitimacy of other struggles they face.

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Thank you for your inane contribution. Now that you've performatively established for the boys that you read lots of theory™, would you care to crack open a cold one and engage with the point the article makes in relation to Chapo Trap House?

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I reject the premise of the article. Lazy memes don't change this

I don't know if a moral argument is the right one to make. Although you can definitely make the argument that if you'd rather live in luxury or consume useless shit rather than contribute to Leftist causes then you probably can't call yourself a Leftist.

Man, that's sad.

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Holla Forums, where we hate idpol, but don't you ever talk shit about the incredibly bitter incels who let their sexual frustration define their worldview

What is the point of posting all these?

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And to be more specific, I reject the premise that this article has any bearing on chapo or anyone else in the dirtbag left. From the first sentence
>if you possess billions of dollars, in a world where many people struggle because they do not have much money, you are an immoral person
Meanwhile you're up and down this thread screeching about how many thousands people are allowed to have before they've betrayed the revolution or some shit

The numbers quoted here>>1779230 are clearly in line with the numbers those in Chapo are making.

I'm not screeching about anything, you're engaging in bad faith. Left politics is fundamentally a moral proposition, something this board struggles to acknowledge. The primary question of any politics is how power and resources are distributed. When any group of people begin accumulating large amounts of power or resources, it's worth talking about.

I used to fap to that artists stuff all the time when I was 13.
What's his name again?

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Uh I don't pretend to know what Eminem really for reals true blue feelings were.

Just that Felix was a huge fan, that Eminem fans were the proto alt right before its current form. And that fucking cruelty, bigotry and disdain is just dripping from all of chapos podcasts.

Felix is smart in that he found a new marginalized group to pick on i e no gf men. Just like Eminem did with homos and "his ex-wife" which was just code for "my fans will insert their hatred for their own girlfriend, wife or object of desire here" before.

This isn't even a fucking secret fucking hacks like the key of awesome have like several parodies regarding it .

You might as well say anyone who wore baggy clothes in middle school is a fascist. Have fun fighting the world

meant for

Not OP.
Yeah, I haven't had sex since the girl I loved, but I don't even care. Mainly I just want to fall in love again.
Why is being human such bullshit?

Fucking this, Chapo is just another in a long line of grifters looking to capitalize on the rising class consciousness.

Take that back! You don't know Comrade Hammer's true heart!

At least african americans and women face actual oppression at some point. You fucking disgust me, this is the lowest form of idpol i've ever seen

I don't remember baggy pants writing several albums of homophobic hatred of women bullshit

Something Awful fags are not my comrades

but no gf men is just another way to say mentally ill men.
So actually he hates the mentally ill

this is the reason the pomo left is losing so hard. get out of the way and let people who actually have a shot at changing the world have a shot

what did he mean by this?

Nah just cucks like you.

What do you disagree with in post 85? Whining about nogf is grating, but it's less so than hard lads bizarrely claiming that morality doesn't come into politics.

Politics is about the distribution of power and resources. It's ok to criticize people you like if they're accumulating these things.

Women are gay men without penises

Are you sure you read the numbers right? It posits a 250k limit and nobody here has posited any number near that for what the chapos make. Besides the fact we've established they invest plenty of money in leftist organizing and the like

Hating idpol isn't the same as hating the individuals under that identity. Just like there's a difference between hating bourgeoisie feminism and hating women.

You need to be oppressed to be marginalized, and it's not idpol to say that a certain group of people experience a real problem and are unfairly scorned for it.

Self-interest comes into politics. Asking people to engage in politics out of altruism is pure cancer and completely untenable.

The reason left politics works is that it appeals to a broader self interest by definition (the working class will always outnumber the ruling class)

I'm not even white, dipshit

How the fuck is it idpol if it's materially happening. I'm not equating no gf struggles to LGBT struggles, I'm familiar with the history of both.

Do you think all those robots are lying, that Japan really isn't facing a population crash. The Europe and the US would be too if not for immigration.

You're really stretching the definition of oppression

I'm not criticizing the existence of those struggles, I'm criticizing your approach to them. And I have yet to see any sign that you see or engage with those problems in a non-identitarian framework

We haven't really established how much they invest in anything.

I meant to say don't need to be.

Ok, I'm unclear how that's bad though. I can't personally get to know all these no gf guys. I feel like it's just short hand for a group of people all suffering the same type of alienation

Are there actually that many nogf guys? I thought all of them are pretty much on the Chans. I mean, why focus on this issue so much if they are such a tiny subset of the population

Alienation is a real problem of capitalism. I doubt most of them are legit nogf total virgins but there's plenty of people who feel socially unfulfilled.

Not to mention that moral Mr.Rogers-esque Keynesian capitalism has been getting the fuck beaten out of it for the past few decades and go-fast greed-is-good capitalism has been put in its place.Voicing moral outrage just a little louder would not have stopped that turn because it was the material conditions that laid the groundwork for that turn. Plus this is assuming that an ethical, moral, or even simply a stable form of capitalism can be created

"Moral leftism" as Jean Bricmont terms it is an ideological disease that must be stamped out tbh

I don't get this autism that we have to pretend leftism isn't moral, what purpose does it serve

Just being moral will not be sufficient.

Being altruistic, knowing that well being of your neighbour has a connection with your own well being needs to be further expanded as a part of the material interests of the working class.


Basically this. But there is definitely more to altruism than it being moral. I help you now you help me later so we are helping each other all the time is mostly materialistic way of pursuing self interest through cooperation.

dunno about anyone else, but for me it's not so much about it not being moral or morality not being important, but mostly that I was active politically irl and online during the Bush years when evangelicals were spewing their shit everywhere. as a result I have a visceral reaction to seeing morality talked about in a political context and find moralfags to be fucking annoying

that's it really. no big philosophical objections, just sick of that shit

lol I don't care if you have a moral reason for being involved but if you believe that the world can be changed by moderate-to-large sized groups attempting to act morally then I would suggest going to Church or joining the next Kony 2012-style campaign.

Capitalism won't be overthrown by moral outrage, even its victims will fail to marshall enough strength to destroy it if this is the basis. Capitalism will be destroyed when the working class realizes that its overthrow is not only in its interest but absolutely necessary.

Marx was right certain horrible things throughout history like Indian genocide, slavery, land theft, feudalism etc. were progressive considering the wider context of history at the time. Capitalism was always horrible but it was progressive in comparison to slavery; likewise, we didnt go from relatively egalitarian tribes to hierarchal civilized societies because of some fault of morality on the part of our ancestors but because the division of labor and the new civilized modes of production necessitated it.

There's really no point in trying to deny any of it, try imagining capitalism without colonialism, without imperialism, without super-rich tycoons etc. its extremely difficult to say the least. But all of those things existed in pre-capitalist societies while capitalism gave us the ability to expand production at rates never seen before and to open up new opportunities to people across decaying feudal societies.

The change capitalism brought to the mode of production for the first time allowed us to contemplate a civilized society without exploitation of any sort but this isn't because people realized exploitation was morally wrong in the 19th-20th centuries but because of the change in material conditions.

Nobody ever will, just like nobody is ever going to a real solution to suicide, or drug addiction under our current system.

I have aspergers. As a kid I was told I'd be institutionalized by my current age - 24
I've fucked 5 girls and pick up with countless at parties. I have anxiety and depression.
Git gud

please elaborate

As a fellow wizard, I can understand your pain OP.

As to this thread, why do you folks feel the need to peer pressure virgin males into relationships? Pls no bully. I just don't understand what would possess someone who has experienced relationships before to go and seek out those who haven't. Is it just to gloat? Don't get me wrong, I never said these kinds of attacks are exclusive to Holla Forums, in fact, I have firsthand experience with this sort of thing happening on Holla Forums.

The folks committing these attacks on wizardkind here have much in common with what we used to call Tradcucks on Holla Forums. Your motives are both equally irrational; the only difference is that you consider the wizard archetype a right-winger thing or whatever (I didn't listen to the podcast), while the Tradcucks would always vilify and demonise us because they believed that opting out of relationships with modern women as "Degenerate".

btw I know I said "we on Holla Forums" but this is because I am a former Holla Forumslack. Their Fascist beliefs offer no solutions to - or even just a simple recognition of our problems under Capitalism so I abandoned ship

They're not unfriendly they're just kind of awkward irl. Matt especially. I spent most of the time talking to Will who seems most capable of having a "normie" convo for back of a better term. Felix is fun and is definitely the most comfortable in a party environment but also has the most intense swings to being super awkward especially when a joke he says doesn't land. All in all the more memorable parts of the night for me and a most of my friends I talked to afterwards had nothing to do with them

Is this a fucking yelp review of people you met

This reads like the fucking Thom Yorke groceries story

Have you been to /leftytrash/? Like a third of the thread is complaining about nogf stuff. Idk where this idea that Holla Forums actively seeks out virgins to mock comes from. It's different on a comedy podcast where the whole point is to mock but I really don't get that sense here

I mean he asked. Wtf else was I supposed to say?

Perhaps I misunderstood what was going on in this thread, I just saw the OP and my defensive instincts kicked in. I have alot of baggage on my mind that all those conflicts on Holla Forums gave me, forgive me if I get jumpy.

Yeah I think some people confuse being un-PC about something as being legitimately reactionary about it.

Because this board can't get over schizophrenically mocking Holla Forumsacks for >tfwnogf and reacting in utter shock when leftyanons suffer from the same problem

Because on the Nu-Left you don't have problems if you aren't a minority or a woman - obviously you're just A FUCKIN' WHITE MALE that doesn't know how easy he has it

At first I felt kind of bad for the virgins in this thread, but reading this autism I'm convinced they deserve. Quit being shitty people and get real friends. After that you shouldn't have any issue finding a gf. Yes, depression and anxiety are tough, but they're a fact of life. You either have to push yourself or give up. You can't expect the world to hand you women or for everyone to tiptoe around your feelings. Even the most pathetic faggot can meet a girl(male) in some shitty MMO.

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There is no personality trait. I was far left then far right now neither

Dude, I'm depressed, over-weight, hairy, alcoholic, and suffered varying degrees of anxiety. Still pushed myself to do better. Even dated really fucking cute girls. Most had shit personalities, but that's more my shitty taste in women than anything. You can either be a bitter virgin fag forever or do something about it. Yeah, capitalism makes it harder, but literally half the fucking planet are women. This shit isn't as hard as you think it is. This myth that Chad's are monopolizing all the women is a completely bullshit.

Litterally neo lib tier rationalization for no gf alienation.

Not everyone come from the same place or circumstances. Also there's exceptions to every rule.
the fact that the vast majority of people reflexively dish this condescending advice out shows how deep this problem is.

It's not hard to understand. Capitalism flattens all differences between cultures, sexes etc so everyone can be an equally good prole.

Tradionally entrenched roles like gender roles are increasingly losing their power so more people we tend to think of as having the resources to take care of their needs are increasingly being left behind.

Heyfags, correct Holla Forums here~

Damn for like 6 months now i have been wondering where my people are after I realized the chapo boys didn't want to piss off their fan base by criticizing identity politics anymore, and it turns out it's on the more racist version of 4chan? Hell yes, that makes sense. Thanks to the chaporeddit people who kept talking about tanks and Posadism and bunkers for guiding me here.

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I'd fuck the shit out of both of those hotties. 10/10.

Smaller, tighter, more oppressive/intrusive communities. Individualism has reached a point of diminishing returns when it comes to well-being for most people.

Your first problem, and almost everyone ITT, is blaming literally everyone but themselves for their circumstances. That's fucking pathetic, dude.

Sexbots when? I need to get one of my pornfu.

BRUH
at least give self-improvement a chance

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this
seeing being a virgin as the same as being poor is disgusting
the yugoslavia sperg in this thread is the worst fucking autist and no amount of money is gonna help him lmao

What the fuck ever. You don't know me personally anymore than you know the other gf. You can't say it's a personal failing if you know nothing about me personally.

Also idk like do you think like women don't commodify their sexuality. What do you think the effect of that will be if all women do that.

And just for the record I can fuck. It's not about fucking, or even finding a gf, it's about finding a WIFE.

If I wanted to lower my reasonable standards I could get a gf no problem. It's finding ELIGABLE bachelorette that a problem for men and other no gf guys

No one said it was like being poor, but that it's another product of alienation.

Women commodifying their sexuality and leaving scores of men with no real opportunity for a relationship because they are all courting the same pettie bourgeois men

that was your first mistake. podcasts are cancer

Just so you know, lad, I'm with you.

But that's literally how Chapo mocks these people. "You're a virgin and you live in your mom's basement hurr durr." They mock people living with their parents even though a growing number of young people are unable to live on their own due to economic circumstance.

They'll stop it if the Pateron bucks stop coming in. They've and weird Twitter in general have postured themselves the gatekeepers to leftism cause it makes them $$$

As shit gets more real people are going to demand more answers and more political stances from them.

That's why they spend huge chunks of their show talking about the goofiest alt right leaders and no gf incels.

They believe they've found a safe group of people to ostracize.

That shit is tiresome. I need tools on how to address fascism now, not the umpteenth circle jerk on how much smarter we are than the alt right.

Don't give me this it's entertainment shit. If they were at all talented they could make shit like that entertaining too.

literally you >>1779200

tbh im not surprised youre a lonely sad fuck lmao

just because im calling these retards for what they are in the thread doesnt mean im with the chapo fuckers

Can you tell me what's wrong with what I said. Women are commodifying their sexuality. I guess you think women only date men on their virtue therefore if your alone it must mean your not really a nice guy.

Spare me. I didn't say these pettie bourgeois guys were bad I'm sure many of them are perfect gentlemen. But that's not the predominant reason why they can find partners where others can't.

I think I understand your post better. Again not equating not having a gf with the terrible struggle that is being poor.

I'm saying often it's because you are poor you are rejected by women. As in that almost always why these no gf guys can't find women.

Everyone loves to point out the common factor that these guys hold reactionary views but when I point out they are also all poor as well p, well then suddenly I'm trying to equate poverty with no gf.

No they won't, the Jew members are independently wealthy so they'll continue as long as they have a reason to.


But they're not. They're really just providing slightly-left-of-lliberal snark about how mainstream politics is shit, but they don't have a coherent vision of politics to back their vision up

Just be a volcel like me.

Yes yes we get it you're a "volcel" because you haven't fucked a hot girl in the last month

This the alt right are all kissless virgins I feel is a dangerous meme.

They're dangerous and even if it's true they all can't find gfs that won't make their violence any less destructive.

I get the impression that at least a large plurality of pol have wives and gfs.

What I meant was that its stupid to presume that their social failings have any relationship to their political leanings

This

Wasn't Felix an assistant editor at some Silicon Valley venture capitalists rag.

m8 almost everyone in this thread is a true believer, you could have audio of them laughing at their supporters and this thread would become a hive of activity defending it because they were "just being ironic when they laughed that their supporters were several income brackets below them"

It's pretty simple: rich liberals that fancy themselves real leftists because they listen to CTH and buy fair trade. You'd be surprised how many of those their are, especially in the NE of the US. As for what happens to it, that's really just their business.

Do you not understand the "vol" part?

Are you being a voltard? As in, are you merely pretending to be retarded?

I'm actually trans-tarded. I identify as mentally handicapped but I'll try not to appropriate your culture

If sexbots ever become conscious I'm gonna feel sorry for them.

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Literally the first sentence:
SHUT THE FUCK UP

High income isn't the same as being bourgeois. Read a book.

Reading this thread was a mistake for my mental sanity.

Really makes you think

it still makes me giggle how the aut-right seriously believed TRS is relevant enough to "rip off"

also like 3 people have never recorded themselves speaking into a mic before trs

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Base and Superstructure describe the society, not the individual, and it certainly doesn't apply to people not getting laid.

We always talk about economic classes but never address social classes as well, I feel which are just as real.

I'm a 5'4", have a speech speech impediment and are of average looks. Tell me how I'm supposed to stop being a khv? I will admit that I can understand now why I was attracted to alt-right politics thanks to listening to the podcast but it's possible to change, I consider myself a leftist now. Not all of us have to end up as reactionaries.

i remember early on in the podcast a Mexican American fan wrote to them and said something like "i can't drive through Mexico with your podcast's name on the stereo" lol

I'm a 5'3" khv, comrade. You're not alone.

>another person's agency to not fuck you is the result of ____

That's great to hear. I definitely feel more 'accepted' in left wing circles than in right wing ones tbqh. Like I can legitimately go out to a left wing rally and feel a sense of belonging and comradely whereas aut-rightists will always judge you harshly if you don't fit their alpha wolf pack mentality. The infighting is so crazy over there.

Yer this is what I fear the most.

Holy shit! The lifestylism…it hurts! This isn't a religious cult and we aren't supposed to be the most ascetic commie on the block.

The relationship is reciprocal but the base ultimately determines the superstructure.

They're average/above average looking and they're not manlets so it's not hard for them to get pussy.

They're all manlets.

So all these athletes and rappers making hundreds of millions a year are proles?

Really makes me think, even capitalism distinguishes between lower/middle/upper class.

your tax bracket is not your class
your tax bracket is not your class
your tax bracket is not your class

Rich proles are a meme. They don't identify with the proletariat class and I will enjoy seizing their property :^)

Structurally they are proles. That doesn't necessarily mean they have revolutionary potential tho.
Which are arbitrary points on an income scale which describe variations of consumption that lead to social differences in a culture centered around consumption.

this is why 2d exists, user

None of that is gonna prevent you from getting a gf, fam. You're not gonna get qt grills ogling you from across the street, but that doesn't really matter if you're not just looking to stick your dick in someone's vagina. And even as I say that, you probably would have grills ogling you if you worked to improve yourself, which also has the benefit of making you more confident in yourself.
Because let me tell you what is definitely not gonna get you a gf: being extremely self-conscious of yourself and defining yourself by the fact that you can't get laid. No one's gonna have sex with you out of pity, and people can smell desperation from a mile away. I've known butt-ugly guys who got a gf simply because they had a likeable personality, and I've known fucking hunks who consistently fail to get into a stable relationship despite having no problem getting laid.
And ultimately, none of this qt and hunk shit is gonna matter in 30 years time because you'll all look dumpy and old by then.

Thanks for the advice, fam. Yer I'm not really into the whole one night stand thing, I'm looking for a relationship. If I wanted sex I can easily go to a prostitute. Currently going to the gym and trying to get fit.

MANLETS

WHEN WILL THEY LEARN?

I'm a virgin but I don't hate women.
What does that make me?
A special snowflake?

You might be a woman

Did you have help when you were a kid? How did you become functioning?

Your comment is infettering with my autism user, please

Well adjusted

If you don't like women then you must be a woman, the new categorization of gender

lol

Anyways at lunch there was a dude who was shorter than me with a qt girl and a kid. Not gonna lie and say being tall isn't a benefit, but you can get laid if you're short. Going for tall girls might be the way to go, they get passed up because some guys are spooked about girls over 5'6".

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But 2D isn't real.
You can't hug 2D girls, you can't kiss them, you can't hold their hands, they can't actually have feelings, they can't react to you, you can't have children with them.

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This. It's really not terribly difficult if you stop living in fear and commit to self-improvement. Basic effort and even the tiniest hint of self-awareness goes a long way.

It is if you're mentally ill and don't have the money to get the help you need, as well as having no education and no real way of getting a job,

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Sex and it's politics is an integral part of any society. There's lots of men that cannot find partners, not sure how that's not part of society.

You just yet another normie that will not extend the least bit of empathy to them because they are male.

Aren't Marxist supposed to be continually deconstructing shit like this.

This problem isn't just a handful of individuals. Also how is the base superstructure not at play here.

Base=They poor. That a trait they all share, one conveniently ignored because it makes them partially victims themselves

Superstructure=women are culturally conditioned to seek out partners that will raise or at least maintain they're current lifestyle.

This equals them " not getting laid" which is another dehumanizing accept of your critique of them. They are seeking intimacy not sex.

Dude, if that's what you think Marxism is about, you need to actually read Marx. When Marx talks about Base, he's talking about the means and relations of production (how is it structured and who owns it). The Base shapes the Superstructure, which is everything not related to production, including stuff like sexual relationships.
Now, you can do a Marxist analysis of all this by looking at how Capitalism has helped destroy the traditional family and social structure, later went on to destroy the nuclear family, and eventually will wind of creating a society of completely atomized individuals who only exist to produce and consume - which is a completely valid analysis and one I agree with. Now, the only way to prevent this would be to change the Base, ie. destroy Capitalism, but that's not exactly a practical solution for you, and even if we managed to do it today it probably still wouldn't improve your chances due to cultural inertia.
Ultimately, Marx only really focused on the broader movements of society and production, and the issue of khv's is just a tiny part of that. The issues of interpersonal relationships is completely beyond the scope of Marxism, and khv's have existed before Capitalism and will exist after it. The solution to your problem isn't gonna be found through society or through Marxism, but in you.
Also, quit it with the reddit spacing, faggot.

Whoops

Yeah, but nah
Base=They're mentally ill-→Therefore:They're poor

Solve mental illness, solve KHV

So, being poor in capitalism is entirely the fault of the individual prole?

No it's the fault of society for not protecting themselves from becoming predatory to one another.

Well, only for KHVs.
They are inherently disadvantaged because of their mental illness and need extra help learning to deal with it, just like you'd help someone whose leg or arm was amputated or was born without, or someone blind, deaf, or mute. As well as being supported while they "are taught to fish".
You'll notice that, and has even been said in this thread multiple times, that poor men have no problem finding women willing to have sex with them.
It's only the mentally ill men that have problems finding women willing to enter a romantic relationship with them.

It's their relationship to the base is what I mean. The falling rate of profit is causing porky to kick exploitation into overdrive, causing many young men to be poorer than their fathers.

They can't find partners because their boomer fathers were easily able to out earn their partners.

Yes many of these guys have reactionary views, like their fathers, but their fathers could find mates but they can't. Why? It's because of capitalism.

you guys are so intelligently dishonest and consume socialism like another's commodity. I'd rather use it to fight fascism.

Step one is to stop denying the expert people because they disgust you.

Pol keeps appealing to these guys with promises they'll bring back patriarchy which would get these guys gfs. Do you know why that propaganda works, it's because it's fucking true.

If women were stripped of their ability to sell their wage labor like they were before feminism, they WOULD coming crawling back to these assholes as sure as a prole would come crawling back to porky.

You completely diffuse the ability of leftists to push back against this by reflexively dismissing it as personal failing, obesity mental illness etc.

Angry is not a sign of mental illness per se especially in a system as exploitative as capitalism. Pols leadership knows that well and doesn't fight it but instead attempts to misdirect it at minorities and leftists such as yourself.

Sheesh I'm only a beginner when it comes to Marxism but his teaching seem pretty damn pragmatic. If fascism is awaking again it's vital to begin finding out why, and it isn't going to be for all the same things in the past. History doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes.

This is a broad movement of society. All first world counties are facing a population crash, it's only apparent in Japan because they have banned immigration.

Women are doing a rational thing, they are attempting to marry themselves into the pettie bourgeois and sometimes even bourgeois class and they ain't giving up till they are well into their 30s.

Look at how many women are having children out of wed lock. They didn't do that before cause they couldn't sell their wage labor.

But they still expect men to play the role of provider when dating even though these men had no say in wether they wanted to start parenthood yet.

I'd do the same thing if I was a lumpenprole. This no gf thing is real. The only reason men in poor countries can still find partners is because women in those countries cannot sell their wage labor.

*Step one is to stop denying the experience of people because they disgust you.

There isn't a single rich rapper/athlete who maintains their wealth without heavy investment and direct/indirect exploitation. The ones that don't burn out and fade out quickly.

You have a really dumb idea of what class is.

Are you even a leftist

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I'm not the one you spent all this thread shitting on women for not fucking me.
Trying to inflate your personal plight of nosex into a larger political/economic shit is real cute, too. I'm SURE you don't spend time on PUA sites or r/redpill.

You buy, uncritically, into a lot of myths. A person's self-agency to choose their partners is not a failing of society, it's simply personal choice. Poor people fuck all the time. Ugly people fuck all the time. It's a constant throughout time, and is unchanged in our current times. Sort your issues out m8.

you wont hug 3d anytime soon either

Dude I cited over and over again the imperial data that all Western first world countries are facing a population crash.

All reactionaries like can do is name call "You're a PUA, You're not really a nice guy, You're fat! You haven't tried self improvement, you're ugly with unrealistic expectations."

Which immediately contradict themselves "Fat ugly poor people laid it must be you". For all this tough love bullshit now your basically saying the laws of gravity are suspended to support your case.

Uh no, fat, ugly, dirty, poor people in general do not get laid by eligible bachelorettes.

By every objective measure women are treated by men better now than they were when they boomer parents were finding partners.

Do you think it has anything to do with the fact that the middle class is shrinking, and women can sell their wage labor at parity to men. Nah must be my own bitterness, which you take entirely from my critique of Western first world women.

I'm not shitting on women, I'm asserting they are commodifying their sexuality and in particular their virginity to escape their proletariat class.

There is this cultural stigma still against promiscuous women. Therefore Western wome at least in the us will not sleep with poor proles as society tells them it will dimish their value.

Leaving a bunch of men in the no gf category