Go shopping at midnight

You can have one person supervise 4 to 8 registers at once instead of having them confined to one. Am I missing something here?

You'll have to explain to me what you mean by this.

The fact that the store wouldn't have those 4 to 8 registers if they had to be individually staffed

I know right? We should just automate all icky low wage labor so that no one will ever have to do it. Anyone who becomes unemployed by this should just go back to school and become a computer programmer.

Color me shocked. You must be doing this on purpose.

I see your point. But with new stores being built, it's more efficient to have automated checkout, since you can have less people watching the registers and more people helping customers losing their jobs.

Automation is bad for workers under capitalism. Only under Socialism will everyone benefit.

Everything is bad for workers under capitalism.

My point is that there is no one to lose their job, yet, to self-checkout because their never would have been those 'extra' people in the first place. Self-checkout it not a replacement for cashiers it's an increase in productivity for them like industrial revolution was an increase in productivity for factory workers.

But the automation and job loss will quickly come soon.

Very true, however I was referring to the context of this thread. Automation under capitalism will usually just lead to layoffs and unemployment.

The self-checkout eliminates the paid position of a cashier and shifts the labor over to the unpaid customer. Unless a robot is doing my checkout and bagging for me, the labor of checkout and bagging still exists. In fact, most customers who go through self-checkout are not well-trained on how to use it, so the total amount of labor time actually increases due to their slowness. If you don't see how this is clearly bad from a Marxist perspective, I don't know what else to say.

This video depicts true automated checkout, where the labor has been eliminated:
youtube.com/watch?v=NrmMk1Myrxc
In communism, all checkout should work like this. Minus the corporate surveillance and data mining that goes on in the Amazon Go store.

Flat-out wrong. The capitalists use it as a way to fire workers with no replacement jobs. There is no new job position to be invented once checkout is eliminated.

Ah, I see what you're getting at, my bad. The labor is merely shifted from the store's employees onto the customer itself. I 100% agree with you, I just wasn't sure what you were talking about earlier. Thanks for the video.

From my cursory googling, it looks like it depends on the business - some fire workers, while others just shift the ones they have somewhere else. Neither one is appealing to me, since they're just getting moved to a similarly shitty job.

And I will say again if self-checkout was somehow impossible, they wouldnt have anymore cashiers than they did with self-checkout.

Or maybe thats just my cynicism from working at walmart coming out.

at least you save yourself the embarrassment of using your EBT gibs by using the self checkout, OP.

But it's not, so it doesn't matter, user. We're talking about REAL LIFE SHIT.
But we all know that Walmart will do anything to have as few people working the registers as possible

Lumpenproles need to be shot.

There's literally nothing wrong with stealing from capitalists.

Defenders of capitalist property need to be shot.

Reminder the Bolsheviks including Stalin were a bunch of absolute madman bank robbers.

There needs to be a movie about that 1907 bank robbery, I can imagine a bolshevik western.

Who do you think suffers for this happening? Not porky.
Around here if someone steals something and this is witnessed or caught later on camera, one of the workers usually gets their paycheck cut for it.

In western countries shit like that is very much illegal. In fact they usually discourage normal employees from trying to prevent thefts because of the potential for lawsuits and/or injuries.

It may be illegal but it's still very much done, usually accounted for as a half-day or some other bullshit. Happened to a few people I know

Do you live in the Congo Free State or something?

The UK. Just because it's illegal doesn't mean capitalists won't do it.

What the hell happens if a bank robbery is all caught on camera? Do the workers owe hundreds of thousands of dollars to Porky?

Can't say I've seen that scenario happen but from what I understand, when bank robberies happened the people were fired and blacklisted. My father nearly got blacklisted from most companies in his field because he dared to report some incredibly dangerous shit that his employer were having him do.

Jesus, I'm fairly sure not even Czarist Russia had that sort of bullshit.

But you're likely not the won who the capitalist stole from. If you're stealing from your workplace you're just reclaiming what was stolen from you, but if you steal from somewhere else, aren't you just stealing the worker's labor for yourself?

If the employer is willing to do shitty and illegal stuff like that, it sounds like they don't need a real reason like someone stealing to mistreat their employees.

Even so, it does make their life harder. Capitalists exploit the fact we don't want to see fellow workers punished because of our actions despite them also saying they're greedy cunts because "hey, human nature right?"

Capitalists are subhuman.

This is what it has come to, hasn't it, Holla Forums? Bickering about whether using the self-checkout is "revolutionary" enough. I don't mind tbh it's just I imagined what someone on the outside looking in would think of this

We have shitposting too man. Gotta take the weight off somehow.

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In a just world, that would happen.

If only user ;;

Cuck.

Watching too many commercials user?

That's fucking stupid, anyone who doesn't quits on the spot over that stunt is a hopeless wagecuck.

Some people have families to feed. Not everyone can just up and leave over it. That's the unfairness built into the system.

Is this the kind of shit Holla Forums has threads about? Im glad occupy wallstreet woke me up to the hypocrisy of my old ways

Just use your EBT dude.

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So which is it: do you want to be exploited or not?