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One thing i never got about the culture wars, is that a lot of the anti sjw types, etc. act like modern culture has always existed, like the world only started in 2010 or something. They have no idea of the civil rights movements, etc. or why sjws even developed in the first place as an overreaction to the genuine racism, sexism etc in the west prior to the 1970s. And they are hypersensitive to anything that seems remotely 'progressive', like having a minority or woman as a character in a video game, movie, or tv series. Like the new star trek series, where they said the capitain is gonna be a black chick or something. Yes its obviously motivated and made by diversityfag libs, but at the end of the day who cares, we're all human beings. Would they have thrown this much of a fit in the original star trek which had a gay asian and a black woman, or in the 90s with voyager with a woman captain? srs, if star trek:voyager was starting today i have a feeling most of those guys would sperg out about OMG A WOMAN CAPTAIN SJW SJW SJW JOOISH KARLTURAL MURKISM. Which brings me to my next point, why the fuck do they concentrate on culture wars? TBQH most of them seem like first world problems of middle and upper middle class kids who haven't had to deal with any real problems. Forget economics, inequality, climate change which can destroy the whole planet, foreign policy of drone strikes killing people overseas, the 'real' problem 'destroying' the west is feminists complaining about video games. When you look at those guys esp Andrew Anglin/Daily stormer and BlackPidegonSpeaks, it seems like their reactionary views are basically based on the fact that they are manlet losers who can't get laid and so blame muh feminism while taking sex vacations to thailand.

And 'gamergate', wtf was that even about? I mean i've always been a gamer, even to the level of gaming addict back in the 00's. I mean i would go days playing games, im in my late 20s now, if you subtracted the time i spent playing games over my life in 24 hour days from my age, if i could take it back, I'd be like 19 years old right now. I didn't know about gaming journalism because the only time i'd stop gaming was when the WoW servers went down every tuesday, and id be like 'welp, time to browse the forums for 12 hours until the servers come back up'. I didn't give a fuck about what some random website wrote. I heard one dude say oh i was liberal until gamer-gate happened, then i turned to the center or right. I mean WTF, if you seriously changed your real life political beliefs because of fucking VIDEO GAMES, thats actually really sad. I just can't fathom for the life of me, how getting angry over admittedly annoying feminists criticizing video games is the most pressing political issue in the west.

The last european overseas colony, that of portugal in Guinea-Bisseau, was overthrown in the 70s under the leadership of Amilcar Cabral (look him up, hes sort of another Sankara, pretty based). In any case from 1400s/1500s until around the 1950s-1970s europe and european derived nations invaded, enslaved, raped, genocided, conquered, and colonized basically every other continent and region on earth. Even after that till today America, a western country still does imperialism by invading middle eastern countries etc. Also during that time homosexuality was illegal for the most part and women were second class citizens and couldn't vote until at least the 1920s in the west and later for other parts of the world (some still can't).

Even if arguably today in the west at least, that has to a large extent been overcome, I can at least understand why there was a reaction to it. But those right wing culture warriors ignore that vast history and act like the world began in 2013 and sjws, black people, feminists, etc. 'suddenly' began hating white guys and 'oppressing' them for no reason.

Now the reason sjws can exist is actually because of the gains in the west, you don't see saudi arabian women becoming sjws, its actually a testament to the rights of women in the west that they are allowed to protest etc. whereas in a truely patriarchal society the morality police would simply arrest them and return them to their husbands/fathers or male guardian like in saudi. So in my opinion sjws are more of a product of increased rights for minorities in the west rather than the cause of them.

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However to get back on topic all of these reactionary Holla Forumstards come off as spoiled brats who are mad that the hot cheerleader dated some black chad rather than their overweight acne covered fedora wearing ass. Can it really be that freudian? For all of there shit about talking about being alpha or w/e if they were actually alpha they wouldn't even be bothering with that to begin with. I just find it so fucking stupid that their main concerns are about being triggered by brown people, fucking 'feminism' and i just want to shake those unbearable little pricks. the WORLD IS BURNING, there are major actual problems, stop your retarded wanking about sjws.

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tldr

Damn nigga you should start a newspaper to publish all that tl;dr

Sweetie you think I am going to help you deconstruct white male muh privilege as a white male? You want me to work against my racial self interests?

Sweetie, no! I not only don't wanna see niggers in my video games, I don't wanna see them in real life either! Re-enslave the niggers and put the women back in the kitchen!

You should tell a nigger that and see what happens.

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Way to brand all anti-sjws under one brush. While a good chunk are conservative and retarded, a lot are disenfranchised leftists who are sick and damn tired of everyone and everything being accused of a given -ism.

Who's that semon demon?

You're too good for this board.

tl;dr.
It's neoliberalism.
this: youtube.com/watch?v=MG7y8J0DXhU

The only thing worse than sjws are anti-sjws tbh, you can be critical and skepitcal of political correctness without becoming an altright stormfag

Good post. Low response rate will be due to answering your own questions.

Agreed
No, send them back to Africa and let them live free in Liberia with General Butt-Naked
Agreed

You can believe in all of these things, and still be part of the gang as long as you renounce corporate-cuckery. Holla Forums is still less censored and has better discussion than Imroachy/pol/

Take the Asser pill, kamerad. Alt-left >>>>> Alt-right(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

nazbol party?

Why can't all the Asserists take the Nasserist pill instead? He was much more based.

Because he isn't white, duh

Good point, lmao

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My main criticism of ,Strassrism, is that it doesn’t go far enough. Not nearly far enough. On the economic side it bascily create a social democracy the system with a editorial state. This is stupid. Proper democratic worker councils need to be set up. It is possible for a democratic system to also be authoritarian, such as in Charles De Gulle. Also on race it creates a white ethnostate. Ok well the difference between the races in Autism Level does exist, but it isn’t that much. If you truly want your race/nation to be much more superior than those around it. You’re going to have to use genetic engineering. And most nazies, are unfortunly against such technology.

wow what a long and stupid rant.

You niggas are worse than Sargon.

Thats the whole point, it was prior to the 70ies and the world has changed meanwhile.

the 5 minute man
Yeah but they sperg out about women and black people in movies n shit, do you really think gamergate was feminism gone mad or something?

We simply have gone our own way and don't give a fuck. Why would anyone want to spend time or money on stuff that brings them no enjoyment? Would you really be mad if black people only wanted to play games, watch shows, read books, etc that was "black" centric? I doubt it. This is just another deeply triggering and problematic thread.

You know. It's funny that on Holla Forums Holla Forums is:

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nobody on Holla Forums claims to hate only sjw bullshit starting in 2010.
We see it as a slow degradation of societies moral principles over time.

not an argument spook

Cuck

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jesus christ

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That would require me to de-spooked user and be a voluntary egoist. Something which you clearly aren't.

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Meanwhile these are actual talking points leftists use

The fact that you people can't handle free speech is just amusing. You cucks don't deserve to vote.

But I am a voluntary egoist.

How new are you to this board user?

Wrong on the first line, thanks for playing

RADICAL
CENTRALIST

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there's a difference between free speech and spamming CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK, retard

t. involuntary egoist.

kek, I like how your picture is actually a snarkier way of just presenting the exact same strawman argument that got you butthurt int he first place. Literally "hurr durr i'm a socialist and i hate white people" but just expanded to a whole retarded rant

Nobody gives a shit about richard spencer. Yet another strawman.
This is why your memes are shit. Start using actual rightwing talking points or keep being faggots, i don't care. I just wish you'd fuck off to another website already because you invite far too many redditors here.

I never said leftypol I said leftists.

You've yet to use a single leftwing talking points. Your self awareness is shit and your rhetoric is tired

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I love how ass mad you all are from such a simple picture.
The fact is that everything stated in that picture is a talking point the left frequently use.

Not an argument, fucko

Go ahead and use neocon talking points. I'm not going to pretend they aren't right wing.

So you're mistaking liberals for leftists then. Good to know.

Both Holla Forumss are just neocon secondary /r/the_donald settlements now. You really are the biggest bunch of projectors

Huh, truly makes one ponder

i dont hate the new star trek because of the captain, i hate it because it looks like generic now.

Late night TV and CNN aren't leftist, brainwashed faggot

Liberals are leftists

Yes they are

The irony is amazing. If I don't characterize you correctly, it's because I don't understand. If you don't characterize us correctly, it's a no true scotsman and it's also because we don't understand. How convenient.

Its not a strawman. Those are all frequently used talking points.

Vote for a neocon, shill for a neocon, get called a neocon. Cry about it

If you think mainstream media outlets are anti-capitalist you have holes in your brain.

""NO""

Lmao I bet you think Hillary is "left wing" despite being to the right of most European right wing parties. You're seriously so fucking dumb it's amazing.

Private property is one of the core elements of liberalism, they are right wingers by definition, you moron.

Used by liberals, not leftists, and hardly anyone on this board. This is a literal strawman, and you're falling on your own logical fallacies.

You're a burger right?

When did I say anything about how you did not characterize me?
You don't characterize the right.
Simple example, you want to show "hypocrisy" in the right then instead of the second panel being about how we care spencer was hit in the face (Holla Forums thinks he's a jew and neocons hate racism just as much as you do) make it a panel about how the right gets angry when niggers hit people in the face.

Careful, that second pic has more than a few sentences and might break his brain

I think his brain is already broken.

Muh purity spiral

Yet you fundamentally agree with everything they say.
I have never seen any of you disagree with the general statements that they make.
Do any of you think we should have really really tough immigration laws? Do any of you think its a bad thing that diversity is being shown in movies?

Acting like liberals aren't left wing is like a nazi acting like necons aren't right wing. Nobody will ever pretend neocons aren't right wing.
Do you see the difference?

Holla Forums is a zionist board anyway and I wouldn't trust a single thing anyone from there said to me about their intentions on or off their board

Still leftwing.

But you're wrong

Yes
No you SJW faggot. Who gives a shit what representation there is in your shitty consumerist lifestylist products?

Nah, she's center right at best. But you're probably a politically illiterate American so I doubt you can comprehend that

If you think liberals aren't left you are retarded. If you think only people completely against capitalism aren't left, you are retarded.
This is what you people call a purity spiral.

Why can't you just admit she is left? Its so retarded. Why are you so obbsessed about labels? I get why you would want to distance yourself from them but the fact is they are leftists. I want to distance myself from retarded redneck hicks, doesn't mean they aren't right.

Center-left is SocDem who aren't ardently anti-capitalist but ostensibly aim to diminish its negative effects. Neoliberals are centrist at best and when push comes to shove will defend the existing hierarchal structures inherent to the current economic system (capitalism) and default to free market reforms (I doubt even you would call right libertarian policy "left wing").

I know your brain can't handle arguments much more complicated than "you're retarded" but try to keep up.

Because she's not
Not an argument

So you think its acceptable to deny service to people of color if you want? You think its acceptable to only hire white actors?

It still does not matter as liberals are still left as are you

Again

Sam harris believes in raising Taxes for the rich, does that mean that he's automatically a leftist?

There are right wing libertarians who are supportive of gay rights. Does that all of a sudden make them left-wing?

Yes.

No one gives a shit about your retarded idpol. if there happens to be a black woman in a movie we're not going to sperg out and claim like it's a cultural marxist plot to breed out the white race to make it easier for DA JOOS to control, unlike a certain image board I can think of.

Your doing a purity spiral. Its hilarious.

Libertarians are social leftists, yes.

I know someone is gonna bring in the Cultural Marxism bullshit so I'm bringing this in ahead of time

Start arguing any time

WEW LAD

How can I possible argue with you? In your mind nobody but people who agree with everything you say is a leftist.

I'm an anti-capitalist. I fundamentally believe the mechanisms of economy and exchange should be changed in such a way that these questions would no longer be relevant

Its ok sweetie, just admit you are wrong about the proper definition of the word in american english.

Nope. I'm not a SocDem and I think they're leftist. I'm not a tankie and I think they're leftist. I'm not an ancom but I think they're leftist. There's tons of ideologies and praxis tactics I fundamentally disagree with and might even think are harmful but I would still place on the left side of the spectrum.

So should a person be allowed to make sure non of his work goes into the hands of colored people?

Do you believe the FBI is leftist? Do you believe that identity based politics used to break up things like OWS were leftist tactics employed by a leftist org?

I'm not big on identity politics so not really

Socdem Ie) what americans refer to as liberals. Stop arguing definitions of words. its so backwards, the very idea that words never change meaning as well.

No and yes but it was not intentional.

He was asking me fag

Sanders is barely a SocDem and would be entirely centrist running anywhere outside of Burgerstan. Hillary was well to the right of him so no I won't concede her being a left winger. Can you name a left wing policy of hers? She was even more pro-free trade than Trump lmao.

So you believe you should force a person to work for people he doesn't like?

I'm curious, what is your ideology?

I think you just don't understand socialism tbh

Thanks for this thread, i've discovered the biggest enemy of the leftist.
Common terms and definitions of words.

Leftists are fucking pathetic.

You can. But you will still be treated like one by the idpol peddling bourgie libshits.

So when I make a farm for to feed 50 people i'm not working for other people in the sense that 49 people will get the product i worked on?

If this is the level of argument from the right than none of us are worried

Too slow.

And yet you make these threads daily.

You still don't get it, we disagree on the fundamental principle of ownership over productive property (like farmland)

People who ignore the history of socioeconomic exploitation in capitalism are retard. However, I think it is safe to say that the "SJW" shit is recent and they are despised by those on the left and right. While the left definitely hates them for their own reasons, I believe the reason most of these lolberts/ Nazis/ANFAPs etc. took up arms is because the liberals went after their insecurities for the first time in awhile.

Yeah that's pretty much what I was saying. The focus on identity is beyond any traditional spectrum of politics and exists to obfuscate for and maintain the status quo. The idea that idpol is inherently leftist as if it doesn't actively hinder us in our goals is laughable and I'm perplexed any time some Holla Forumsyp comes in here to accuse us of liking SJWism as if it doesn't do more harm to our movement than to theirs (see how many corporations are hurt by pandering to every identity)

political compass which shows when something starts to become left

Actually a good post, OP. When I was still a non-ideological Holla Forums lurker I had a brief period where I bought into reactionary hustlers like Sargon, but then began slowly realizing how it was all so much bullshit peddled over non-sequential and infantile trash ("WHY DONT LADIES IN GAMES HAVE BIG EXPOSED BOOBS ANYMORE!? DANG SJW'S!") being inflated as some massive cultural meltdown.

Use the appropriate version

*nonconsequential . phoneposting is hard

Thanks fam I didn't have this one saved

Idk about that

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wtf Holla Forums told me he was idpol?

Shit Holla Forums talks about white identity politics all the time so they are hypocrites. Not to mention all the virgin sexual frustrations and MGTOW bullshit. Listen I'm all about continuing the 'white race' but you kinda have to have white kids for that to happenplus it doesn't really matter in the long run one family isn't going to change demographic shifts Holla Forumsthedonald/aut-right is not a torture chamber, it's a collect hate box now. A good percentage of Holla Forums falls into the bitter white virgin category and it's painfully obvious because they psychologically project their emotions in the form of political opinions.

A libertarian is still a right winger even if he supports social progressive policies. You're literally trying to strawman us, and you get BTFO ITT

Honestly laughing at the absolute state of you

WEW LAD

read it again

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kek, I read "improved" as "removed". Funny how that changes the entire thing

This thread was a pretty massive shitpost. At least it's over now

*shitshow

rosa should be closer to the bottom tbh

There needs to be one with Marx and Engels.

Bowser is socialdemocracy and Peach is Rosa.

Your word holds such a weight here.