Do these people not realize that they are in the public eye, and covering your faces, stomping out cameras, assaulting people and then crying when you get beaten yourself will never look good?
Are they delusional enough to think that enough people support their cause that they can just act like this with no consequences? (yeah I think that's it actually)
I mean I'm not a pacifist by any means. Imagine if someone gunned down the Portland stabber, it would have been both a physical and moral victory against the right. Instead we have antifFags blowing airhorns, pepper spraying people and ultimately…losing fights.
How do we turn this around? A better strategy would be to draw out the more unhinged elements of the right, get THEM to attack first and then blow them the fuck out.
Instead that is what is being done to us.
and by "us" I understand that most people here don't fully identify with Antifa, but I'm talking about public perception, which is pretty damn important if you belong to one of the many leftist ideologies which are based around "consciousness raising"
Leo Reed
I think there is a certain problem with Antifa in America. Oposing fascism is important, but there most of them are a bunch of liberals, who love capitalism and are just pissed by Trumps presidency, they aern´t really fighting for socialism or anything if Hilary had won they would probably be at their home supporting her invading Syria. Compare them with real antifa like in Greece and you can not but laugh.
Nolan Russell
It's Americans being weird again. Not a burger so all I can say is beware of identity politics, intersectionality, and liberal idealism.
Nathan Cooper
Most of them I run into are anarchists. Although they are more into idpol than anything.
Henry Adams
Americans are retarded, not just antifa.
John Carter
:(
Joseph Ward
Those are radical liberals.
Christopher Morgan
Sorry fam, for every ounce of sense you may have there are hundreds of people rushing to show the world their ton of fuckwittery.
Camden Brooks
it's true. -t. burger
Nathaniel Bennett
I've never talked to a member of antifa who identified as a liberal.
Hunter Johnson
The problem is a culture of pacifism, and politics as a hobby or as a social identity. Look at the pipeline shit in America. Anti-capitalists should adopt maybe not those tactics but that same spirit, people burning their own cars to stop the police and such, instead of just going up to and impotently yelling at someone people need to act with intention. Instead of going to the nazi rally with a flag and an attitude, go to the nazi rally with something to hand to angry people like bricks or some bullshit I don't know, that's stupid but it's a good enough example of the point. Instead of going to the nazi concert and yelling, go to the nazi concert and yell and hand out books. Know what your goals are.
This is implying they should. Socialism is better as an inevitable consequence of your motivations, not a motivation.
Marxists are just radical snobs.
Of course you haven't.
Matthew Jackson
Doesn't matter, their politics are rinsed in liberalism. If they don't understand any anarchist texts and only rant about intersectionality and the (state mandated) rights of minorities they are radical liberals.
It's one of those situations where just because there's thousands of you being completely wrong doesn't make you all right.
Are you even trying anymore, black flag radlib?
Jack Bennett
It's true, some even self described.
Easton Foster
Actually a trashcan in that guy's group threw the first blow. And while that brave antifa was easily beaten in the video the trashcan got the beating it deserved for oppressing what society treats like trash.
Ian Kelly
All black people confirmed for gang members.
Mason Harris
if it looks like a duck, if it talks like a duck, it's a…
Logan Cook
Isn't your first picture just kind of an ironic example of what you're currently doing?
You sure don't like being called a snob.
Jace Rivera
ducks aren't really ducks
Parker Jenkins
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Evan Torres
I'm not a snob, I just think you're the worst poster here by miles.
William Russell
I wish America ANTIFA had enough organization to make a simple barricade
Jonathan Fisher
You should probably reread this thread.
Jason Jones
I gotta admit that fourth image actually pretty impressive. Also, is that a dildo taped to his head? lol
Daniel Reyes
WHYYYY Holla Forums
WHHHHYYY
WHYYYY DON'T POC LIKE US?
I LET A POC FUCK MY GIRLFRIEND IF HE PROMISED TO READ THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO
HE FUCKED MY GF AND THEN SAID READING IS FOE FAGGOT WHITE BOIS
Jonathan Miller
EPIC P I C
Justin Thomas
You guys are really bad at blending in
Aiden Evans
That's not really true, though.
Hillary was ridiculously unpopular even among people who actually ended up voting for her 'cuz Trump. I don't know what data we have on antifa voting history, but I doubt any significant amount would apologize for Clinton warmongering when this was a turnoff even to "lesser evil" voters. Like it's nice to watch Trump fuck the USA and GOP up now, but people still have to live under this.
If Antifa went around "fighting for socialism" (fucking lol) when the 2016 election and its results were basically 9/11: Democracy Edition, they'd ultimately be losing an opportunity. Do you know what their reputation was in the US before 2016? They were guys who blocked controversial bands from playing. That was what they did, what they were known for. It was stupid and they were cult-like zealots.
Inauguration Day was the first time they actually looked appealing to a broader group of Americans. That's kind of important.
Gabriel Johnson
not really that relevant to OP here but the fourth is obviously a sockpuppet pretending to be an antifa account. this shit has been going around for a while.
Aaron Mitchell
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Luis Green
In europe they litterally set cops and buildings on fire, and thats just their side-riot after a football game, stop being a little faggot.
Jayden Price
Protesting and leftist thought has been marginalized and separated from the working class for a long time in America (and the working class has itself been fragmented along ethnic, professional, and other lines). Most protesters are just lifestylists or LARPers who get no support because the majority of working people can't relate to them, or just don't give a shit.
