Is doing agitprop on 4chan Holla Forums a lost cause?

If i can speak from personal experience as former polack what threw me off Holla Forums was its increasing stupidy, influx of retards and overall loss of quality in late 2014, and with US elections everything went straight to shitter rather than maymays

No it's good and we should keep doing it. Notice the mass influx of ex polacks? That's because of our shilling. Keep going comrades. Also best to false flag when you do it, don't be overtly commie but say commie things. It's easy if you pretend to be muh nationalist socialist

Shabbos goy Trump was the best thing that could have happened. That they have shilled for a hyper-zionist saudi-friend left them heavily traumatized, ripe for communist subversion.

this. speak their language–shitty memes

Try injecting with small doses 1st :^)

They're definitely still spooked as fuck, but a good portion of them supported Corbyn, so perhaps they're starting to realize that leftists and liberals aren't the same thing. I think the growing number of leftists on social media and such speaking out against neoliberals is definitely helping with that.

Fence sitter Holla Forumsack here.

Your agitmeme shilling is obvious as fuck. I'm not here because of any of your shitposts. And that Spanish autist (assuming he posts here) probably turns more people off commie shit. It's not a lost cause it's downright self-sabotaging.

what I love is western hentai artists that throw support towards fascism, when they'd be jailed or con camped for making "degenerate art"

We should put more effort into pointing out the censorship and general attack on individual's lifestyles that comes with fascism.

what does he say and how does it turn people away?

It got me here because I didn't even know or didn't pay attention to the fact that such thing as Holla Forums even exists

I don't think so, whoever could be attracted from 4/pol/ has already come here.

They will immediately bring up ML states and "leftist" landwhales angry about big tits in games, think harder

We can point out that is a problem of authoritarianism more than leftism. Could point out Orwell was a socialist against authoritarianism and the criticisms of the soviets and if it comes up explain there is no anti-authoritarian strain in fascism.

Look up.

The best strategy imo is to wait for Trump's ineveitible fuck ups and betrayals, make threads about them, then explain who they result from capitalism and the bourgeoisie without actually using those terms or other Marixst jargon.

Also transform Holla Forumss hatred of elite jews into a more general class hatred,

The Daily Stormer openly called to support Corbyn.

I saw a few pretty decent threads on Asserism/nazbol with actual discussions. I strongly suspect they were initiated by people from here.

Do: hijack threads, drop a redpill here and there
Don't: make threads, stop the goddamn communism generals because it just gets Holla Forums jackasses to raid here

On the bright side a few do stick around and convert every time they raid.

So when he got in bed with the sauds, had a jew speak at his inarguration or when he wore the jew cap?
There have already been countless incidents of Trump completely going against Holla Forumss supposed principles, at this point it's fair to conclude that it's government propaganda and the stupidity of Americans that make them continue to support this travesty.
I generally agree with your message though, just wanted to put this out there.

He does the exact same thing in every post.

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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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Everyday. It's made Holla Forums numb to communism and they don't take it seriously thank to this fuckwit. He'll post the thread and simply Christian evangelist-tier answers to any question. He gives nu-pol faggots who don't know how to sage a chance to mock communists.

That's obviously COINTELPRO

God, I hate tankies.

yeah I think it does work. it's slow progress but sometimes people get curious and come here. I used to get pissed of that tankies were the only ones who participated in the threads because of my disagreements with 'em, but honestly I think Holla Forums is more receptive to tankie types.

I stand corrected then I guess. what exactly is the problem with them?
I never got the sense that it was supposed to be a secret. Are you saying the problem is that we don't pretend to be regulars very well because I never got the intention that anyone on those threads were trying.

we have a much higher number of users since people started doing it
there are left leaning people on Holla Forums and sharing info to them about an alternative to Holla Forums helps us grow, since a ton of people understand how retarded Holla Forums is, they just need a new place to talk about politics

Why is lefty/pol/ so fucking gay?
You're a fucking SFW-Board.

A FUCKING SFW-BOARD
That's how much you people are helping 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧those in charge🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 you stupid illiterate commiefuckers with the economic knowledge of a wet piece of bread in a dark cellar.

See this shit? You even need to censor me naming the J_E_W_S that's how much of a bunch of little good goyim you are. You censor yourself on a fucking imageboard on the web. This is insane. You ain't revolutionizing shit, and you never will because you're mostly made up by fat kids, traps and jews all crippled with jealousy and the inability to create a life worth living, so you despise those who are and want to keep them down with the help of the state while pretending to be working for the 'greater good' so that at eventough people starve to death (because all of oyur systems have collapse while killing millions of their own people) you at least don't have to feel inferior anymore.
You leftists are a joke man.
And not a very good one.

To be honest, I mostly just got there to bait and shitpost. Some of the posters on Holla Forums are some of the most easily-baited motherfuckers around.

Thicc Jewish traps will lead the revolution and kill every white person on earth (which is our goal, pic related).

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No such thing.

Only problem they say nothing new.

you look familiar. Holla Forumsposter

You've obviously not seen any of my stuff. I can't say if others do the same, but I know for fact that my shit is pretty original.

sfw

youtube.com/watch?v=KVO3eQPqReA

Well… That's ML's for you. When I do this I do it undercover and pretend to be Nazi or nazbol and attack the capitalist state from the safety of that disguise. Also it means you can shit on lolberts and everyone backs you up

he barely ever answers questions

christ, why would you save such a thing

Well… That's ML's for you. When I do this I do it undercover and pretend to be Nazi or nazbol and attack the capitalist state from the safety of that disguise. Also it means you can shit on lolberts and everyone backs you up

Isn't 4chan Holla Forums run by leftists who work in social media?

It's done its job. I said at the beginning of all this the important thing was to become a boogieman so retarded kiddos essentially at like advertisers for us. We're now Holla Forums's boogieman, 4chan's boogienights, and reddit's bomberharris for anything leftist.

To be honest I would have never found this place if Holla Forums didn't constantly use it a boogeyman, so it must work somewhat. Being a liberal on Holla Forums is like being thrown into the hyena enclosure at the zoo. Now this place is turning me into an actual leftist.

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It depends what kind of mood 4/pol/ is in.

Sometimes you make progress and have some discussion. Sometimes you get shitposted to death, you can never know.

another fence sitter here offering input, do with it what you want:

only if it's done well, if you butcher it it becomes counterproductive
let me explain it in little more detail:
most leftists i talked about can be summed up by this one common archetype: mother
mother cares for you, and loves you absolutely, and wants what's best for you
this is what leftist politics (in real life, this place doesnt even exist anywhere in the street) is all about: leftists always want to care for someone else, leftists always want to "protect the cubs", leftists always see one side as children and the other side as the aggressor

but here's my fucking problem: what if "the mother" doesnt know best??????
what if all your advice and opinions are shit? what if you are smothering someone? what if your influence isnt all that great?
leftists (again, in real life, nobody cares about internet) come off as that friend that is always giving others relationship advice but is himself a virgin

and that's what i dont like about leftism/socialism etc:
listen, if you are a proven doctor, i am obviously following your medical advice
if you are an expert carpenter, i am obviously making this table according to you
if you already passed this exam, i am obviously asking you for your notes
but if you fucking suck, if you dont know what you are talking about, if you dont have the reputation or the credentials or if you never built your communism etc etc;
you are an extremely annoying cunt and i feel an irresistible urge band up with the local lolberts and fascists alike just to keep myself safe from an incompetent retard telling me how to live my life, and measuring if i shat the toilet with enough shit and according to regulations before i flushed it

and finally let's face it: majority of all people and all movements and all politics are criminally incompetent, especially outside their fields of expertise

We should spread our efforts beyond just imageboards to other communities. We can be the bogeyman of the idpol left and right everywhere.

All those who built communism shut up afterwards, 'cause they know the blocks don't fit properly and it crumbles fast. :DD

You do know Holla Forums considers Holla Forums their jester right?
While some here are hard lefties, many come here to laugh at the jester.

Hey, it's only when you make people laugh that you can tell them the truth…

The better laughs are on Holla Forums tbh.
The laughs here come down to simple philosophical trolling.

Because the left really hate determinism.

Isn't the dialectic deterministic?…

Oh and I'm a fence sitter. Don't mind my antics.

I don't agree with anyone really.

You can't make a revolution in white gloves.

Unsure really.
Tbh, the concept of determinism seems to be dualistic in the manner of which we carry out behavior accorded to our environment, but subjective to that individual a person can be seen as adding "icing to the cake" so to speak as long as they consider themselves as an individual.
Neither interpretation is fully correct really.

Oh and this is the reason why I'm a fence sitter.
The left and right are a facade. You're both wrong. You always will be.

8ch.net/pol/res/10066513.html

here's the 8pol thread about us. needs more nazbol shitposting tbh

I agree, gore is so faux pas, there are better things to spam.

Kek - "Don't be fooled guys, we're still relevant"

Not really.

"Western traditional values" everyone

It's just a dead animal, relax

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Jesus Christ. I haven't been on Holla Forums in about a year. Was it always this bad? Have I just forgotten? What the fuck.

Whats with the nazis posting under DPRK flags?
Must be the third i see in the last few days

I hope you're reporting them. Not enough people use the fucking report function.

Two years ago maybe. It's a literal drumpfkin safespace now. Laughing at Holla Forums is akin to laughing at a retard, I just can't do it anymore. It's too pathetic.

Yeah it's not like I care about myself, and of course everyone is a retard. And you forgot to add that if not for the law we would all kill each other, to complete the liberal triduum

Holy shit, Holla Forums really has no idea what leftists believe, do they?

Not enough mods use the fucking moderation function

4chan has horrible mods in general.
Hiro is an absolute retard.

Don't be so thin skinned faggot.

If you don't like these types of people, then go to reddit

My opinion of your ideas just sank even lower, if that's at all possible. Go outside.