We often hear about how alt right is the new counterculture, but is it true...

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We often hear about how alt right is the new counterculture, but is it true? Are the youth / Gen Z and younger millenials really going 'alt right' or is it just a meme? Linked article talks about how there is increasing polarization young adults, but the far left is increasing more than anything. Also, women are becoming way more left wing

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Gen Z is largely still living with their parents. As American capitalism implodes less and less young people will bother with reactionary politics.

Are they making the implication that Liberals are left wing?

Gen Z is more conservative because they are 50% or more Mon white.

conservative third world culture =/= non white, i doubt a Hindu kid with Indian parents regardless of what he thinks for example of gay marriage is gonna endorse himself being ethnically cleansed from the country, deported and/or put in a concentration camp

There's separate categories for far left and liberal in that survey. It is however, self identified. I think it implies that more women are joining the liberal as well as the 'far left' side of things

but they will

Source: Holla Forums

But how many women think that being a radfem is considered far left. You can’t be far left and not be a socialist/communist/anarchist of some sort. And most radfems don’t care about economics so it clearly isn’t a socialist/communist/anarchist ideology.

Holla Forums is mostly self hatting hispanics.

from what i saw, the Alt-cuck just like Holla Forums is a meme, most of them are minorities (brown people) LARP'IN their asses off.
the rest are a bunch of frail autistic teens.


i agree with you on one point, the tendency is to redicalizations, thanks to internet and the echo chambers effect.
in the old days there were just radio and tv, the info you had was mostly neutral.
now with internet, everyone can look up for confirmation of their biased opinion, and only that.
this doesn't sound good

I call liberals.

Yeah but so's Gen Y. It's going to become a more and more obvious problem.

Also for OP, I think the "Gen Z will be conservative/alt-right/whathaveyou" thing is almost exclusively claimed by people with those political leanings who spend large amounts of time circlejerking with people they agree with. Or at the very least, Holla Forumstards seem to be the most convinced of this.

Democrats take a similarly dogmatic approach in the other direction, assuming that current trends will just continue indefinitely and putting a retarded amount of faith in the idea that the "millennials" will have static political leanings as they grow older.

I think we'll probably see a slight leftward trend and it may not be as strong as with "millennials" because "millennials" probably are not going to have that many kids themselves.

I don't know, do we really think there are more radfem women than anarchist or socialist ones?

Plus, SCUM Manifesto is definitely far left, but in a demented Idpol perversion of Marx kind of way. Radfem could really be socially far left in a sense, but then some of the more mainstream "Radfem" figures don't come off this way. I think the term is misused a lot.

There social far left, but econmicly social democrats of liberals. And to be honest those people I fucking hate because I’m econmicly far left, but socialy center right.

Also it’s important to understand when people claim that generation z is becoming more right wing. There very rarely talking about economics.

This, don't take imageboards as an indication of wider culture. Take a look at the actual demographics voting in elections: the young mostly vote for liberals and not conservatives.

an increasing number of radfems embrace the economic, read proletarian, side of politics. Just look at journals like Jacobin, they're feminist but always along proletarian lines even to the chagrin of libfems. For example they ran this article which criticizes liberals' overemphasis on abortion and birth control and their misrepresentation of women who want to be mothers. It puts these issue within the context of women as proletarians.

jacobinmag.com/2017/05/handmaids-tale-margaret-atwood-trump-abortion-theocracy

imo in the US I think we will see racial divide along black/non-blacks rather than white/non-white like Holla Forums says

Doubt it. Hispanics are the main race causing demographic change. If there was a Nazi masturbation fantasy where it isn’t whites vs. everybody else. I’d be whites and native americans vs. everybody else.

Hispanics don't generally like blacks, though. Asians don't really like them either. Lots of hispanics also identify as white, and there are lots of self-hating hispanics

Jacobin was always an Analytical Marxism type magazine, though

yeah, and they're all on Holla Forums
In some cases they are white if by white you mean mostly or fully european descended
Citation needed. Im sure you can find some crazy dudes in every race but im pretty sure at least 75-90% of all people in each race are decidedly not racialist, and the remainder are far less racist than the standards of Holla Forums . making an un-pc joke or racial dating preferences =/= gas the browns

the alt-right will become the mainstream, and something else will be the counterculture

Hispanics are fine with blacks as long as they're hispanic blacks. That's what i've learned working construction.

I love Angela Nagle. I would respect the shit out of her.

Is this left as in Western/American "left" or actual leftism?

The Gen Z is conservative thing is complete garbage though. How can you identify any traits about a generation when they have only just left high school a year or two ago?

Having talked Gen Z kids its mostly made up of "normies" with a weird mix of kinda sorta economically conservative and socially liberalish tendencies with reactionary tendencies against whoever seems to be acting the most autistic at the moment (if its antifa acting up, antifa is mocked and the same with the alt-right if they act up). If I had to guess, the kids getting into the whole "kek" meme or liberal antifa opportunism are your usual suspects The kids who are reclusive, cringy, or unpopular

Its going to be a really weird generation

i disagree
1930s germany showed people can turn to communism or reaction

You miss the point. The only reason gen z dislikes gay marriage, tattoos and trannies is because they are not white.

talk to any astrologer. eris is in venus. this means insurrectionary change, but also fascism. the last time we had this particular confluence of heavenly bodies, it was the 1920s. look at any terot deck and find the one for s*xualization of the central government. thats the archetype expressing itself right now. further reading: blonde beast.
what to do about it? as sartre said, invent!
also that 'commie sanders' pic is cringe as fucc.

I'm all for spoopy stuff, but I would like to see some proof of your claims.

So you're saying white people are getting moar liberal, so much for the 'race conscious' wytes

its a right wing pic that got cropped so it can be used unironically

Yes that's why is this study is a meme study. The next generation will be even more conservative in Europe thanks to Islamic invaders who breed like rats.

Thats because Europe has only had alot of immigration recently. America does a way better job of assimilating people, most American Muslims are more moderate than the European ones. In Germany there's a bunch of muslim women who run away from their home because they get a German boyfriend or w/e. After 1-2 generation, the amount of kids immigrants have drops way down and those kids will assimilate to socially liberal western culture to begin with, the only reason they don't in Europe is because they have been forced into ghettos by racism and they don't interact with white social liberal people on a day to day basis and see their lifestyle.

kek what ever you say.

counterpunch.org/2013/12/18/the-cia-and-the-washington-post/

They're the most left generation on record

Really? I thought it was made in this SA thread: forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3712639