Anarcho-liberals

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I'm exactly the sort of leftist these people are complaining about but they probably want a bigger military than I do, and yet they call me the imperialist.

whenever I read the term 'SJW' my brain automatically swaps it for 'decent, empathetic human being'

Irl most marxists I've met are sjws. Not that anti idpol ones don't exist, but where I am finding a leftist who rejects that is hard, regardless of tendency.

"Self-described"

I like most posters here, from tankies to anh+, but Holla Forums is far different from the shit you'll find irl or on the rest of the internet. That's hardly a contrversial statement.

And go to r/socialism or r/fullcommunism and you'll be banned for saying stupid. The origin of infection doesn't matter when the whole of the left ia dying from this cancer.

Iktf.

True.

The only sjw marxists ive met tend to be more maoist than not, actually mao was the original idpol imo

So you don't disagree with person described in op?

daily reminders that libruls are LITERALLY the petitbourgeoisie.jpg

I see this a lot and it is appalingly ironic that SJWs find a way to be as anti-intellectual as your average white fundamentalist conservative.

Well, they're both idpol

Most of what tend to get called "SJWs" would actually be your typical moral majority think-of-the-children Christian conservatives had they been born a bit earlier. Wowsers are all the same regardless of what creed they claim.

actually its interesting that most of them are millenials that grew up under george w bush/evangelical era where disagreeing with the war meant you were an ingrate traitor and fundamentalism dominated. In a way SJWs are just the mirror images of that

That's because SJW is a term made up by the alt-right to mean "anyone who advocates for any form of social justice on the internet" which essentially means if you argue against genocide you're an SJW.
But.
Let's continue to use empty strawmen and further make a mockery of leftism by mixing theory with chan memes.

It's literally just a buzzword the alt-right uses that you, being advocates for socialism, technically count as being.

But different currents of social justice warriors certainly do exist. Most of them are liberal–plain and simple. And some of them are actual radical leftists.

How can different cultures of something exist when it's a buzzword used to describe all leftists that came from the alt-right?

Reminder not to engage with this COINTELPRO.

FUCK OFF BLACKFAG, YOUR CONSTANT LIBERAL/SJW-APOLOGETICS WOULD BE ENOUGH TO PINPOINT YOU BUT YOU MAKE IT EVEN EASIER WITH YOUR FLAG

So what if the alt-right coined the term? It's used almost universally now. Nearly everyone in North America knows what a "SJW" is, or they know the stereotype at least. And to answer your question: there are liberal SJWs who like Jezebel, Salon, and Everyday Meninism. These people are the ones who supported Bernie and say stupid shit like "sex work is work" and think Scandinavia is heaven on Earth. And another large faction of SJWs are the ML or Maoist types who openly despise cops and spew other edgy rhetoric. Y'know, the transgirl meme page admins who post pictures of anime and shitty slogans with fire text.

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kek?

Using language designed by the right assists spreading thought designed by the right.
Get off the internet for a bit.

No no no no no you don't understand.
These groups are liberals and pseudo-leftists, they aren't SJWs because that's not a real group, it's a right-wing term that has right-wing connotations that overly simplifies things and obfuscates the picture.

Anarchists are generally less idpol than MLs if you include conservative and nationalist sentiments as Idpol, which you would if you were consistent. Leftcoms are admittedly the least idpol though.

Also what the fuck do you have against the liberation of sex workers?

So is it fine if we say idpol faggots instead of SJWs?

It's less conductive to subversion by the board three times the size of us on this website, yes.

I don't you fag I'm just sick of liberals trying to sanitize the shitty reality of prostitution. And don't pretend that cam girls or white middle class dominatrixes with one client are representative of the majority of "sex workers." Prostituted women deserve effective policy that will help them exit the "industry," avoid the pigs' harassment, and hold johns accountable for their abuse. Nordic model now, johns and pimps get the wall, abolish prostitution, etc.

They deserve all those things. As well as brothels where they can turn down any clients and have full control over their work.
I want them to be though. Being against sex work completely is like trying to help a family escape from an abusive alcoholic by burning down the bar.

sorry but it's not nearly as simple as you think it is. Read this: logosjournal.com/2014/watson/
don't get triggered by the title, just actually read what it has to say about the limits of "just regulate it, maaan" argument

I'm not saying "just regulate it".
I'm saying we need hooker co-ops while we wait for socialism. It's a silly puritan dream to think that people won't do this even after we abolish money.

I find it funny how defenders of the 'nordic model' just think what they propose isn't criminalization. It's just, unlike right wingers, you want to do it by suppressing demand, not supply.

When the government is curbing your sources of income, it's not 'protecting' you, it's telling you should look for another shitty job instead.

This is why we can't have nice things. Discarding theories/arguments because of who put them forward is just… How intellectually dead must one be to think like that? An using "race", gender and age as criteria? The SJWs of that type are Stormfront-tier racist/sexist, only inverted and with an even more toxic behavior.

This thread is deeply nationalistic, reactionary, and proof that leftypol is in fact full of robots, right wingers, and Holla Forums. Also, Racism 2.

found the anarcho-liberal

How is it not?

I've barely read the thread but I probably agree.

Found the anarcho-tankie, assuming you're the same faggot.

Stop it now dude, you're making a fool of yourself. Close Holla Forums and read a book.

No, it came into use before the 'alt-right' was a real thing, to describe, as it is still used to describe, idpol obsessed proggies.
Now go back to reddit jesus fuck.

:^)

IIRC it was first used by left-idpol liberals who used it as a self-congratulatory term. The SJW's brought it upon themselves. I don't use it anymore though, too much Holla Forumsyp baggage. "Idpol" is better.

was it? I always thought the 'warriors' was added ironically by people insulting them. Internet crusaders.
Either way, even if blackflag was right(they arent), arguing that 'using the term helps the right' because they invented it(they didnt) suggests that the group most ppeople use it to insult doesnt deserve to be shit on.
No, it absolutely does deserve it and much worse.

No, it came to be at around the same time.
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No, the idea is that it groups up all of us together in the minds of the people who perpetuate it most.
I guess I was wrong about the origin.

I wasn't wrong about the fact that it sticks anarchists, liberals, communists, socdems, and even some of the more polite lolberts all into one group because we're all against their interests.

The way I specifically remember it going was that people called idpol obsessed liberals on twitter SJWs as a newage version of "politically correct police" (evidence that this is not an entirely new phenomenon). It was later that I saw the dumbasses saying "w-well I think that's great! I AM a warrior of social justice!"

Possible - in internet time, this shit is mists of history stuff. I think I first read it when I still frequented the huffington post back in late Bush years, but it might well have been much later.

Dumb fucks aren't restricted by political affiliation user. They're everywhere.

On the contrary Marxism is much more cancerous, anarchists don't need commandments to try and invent something on their own. Sometimes result is uninformed cretinism, sometimes it ends up as a valid tactic for leftists to use.

gotta mix black with a little red comrade
That's homophobic :^(

Pretty sure most typical "SJWs" have the right thing in mind, they just get it wrong. Just like most left liberals, they just aren't educated enough to acknowledge the importance of class struggle and otherwise they probably would. To think otherwise would just be outward misanthropic but what else should I expect from people coming here really. It may be hard to see for someone who is not the member of the working class themselves what exactly is wrong, so whenever you see someone going on about racial or gender inequality or whatever it's just better to consider them entry level leftists have-the-good-idea-in-heart people. Better to keep in mind that they aren't the type of people who would kill you and your entire family if given the chance to do so without the consequences too and neither would I even though I do honestly believe that all white people deserve to die.

The concept of overthrowing the bourgeoisie is, should be, an internal part of what is regarded as (social) justice.

There's mixing your black with a little red, and then there's ditching your black za stalina za rodinu

I'm pretty sure this is a meme, I've seen this post type before

It's just one guy who calls anything he doesn't like reactionary in several threads.

That's not me, keep getting defensive for right-wing idpol though, that isn't suspicious at all.

Calling you retarded isn't reactionary.

Rushing to defend the right is.

Point to where I defended the right.

wew lad

literally just liberals, in the classic adam smith sense.

I think this is what bookchin spoke of when he critiqued modern anarchist movements as overtly lifestylist

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Actually outside leftypol most anarchists are punk rockers and anarcho-liberals and stuff, this board is an exception. And I don't count third worldism, anti-imperialism, or national liberation movements as idpol, Franz Fanon lived under occupation by Vichy France, fought the Nazis in ww2 and faced actual racism in colonial Algeria, modern sjws are spoiled kids at expensive schools who are 'oppressed' by white people eating sushi and hairstyles.

We switched to it from marrying first cousins. Even by your standards that is an improvement, assuming you are a biological determinist and not a feels > reals Evolacuck.

Twitter anarchists are just as bad.

Twitter in general is awful.

Could you give me the source of your pic?

Forget it, I found it.

You're right that most "anarchists" are anlibs but "muh imperialism" almost always is idpol in the way that people actually use it as opposed to the "pure" version of the concept. Left-wing idpol is mostly a corruption/degeneration of critique of idpol as well. You start with critiques of systemic racism and then that becomes critiques of whiteness as a concept (as opposed to white people as people) and then that becomes opposition to white people while pretending to be the former.

explain

"whites/first worlders are inherently bourgeois"

That's not anti-imperialism, that's just retardation.

That's what passes for anti-imperialism these days.

It's hardly fair to call it a switch, as if the only alternative to marrying your cousins were marrying into a low-IQ population with a propensity for domestic violence and thereby create an identity-less, tormented mulatto class.