Perverting George Orwell

Why is George Orwell so commonly appropriated by the right and the liberal-left? And why do tankies slander him and call him an FBI shill? He may have been anti-totalitarian, but he was definitely not rightwing nor liberal. Also, I see a lot of talk about Christopher Hitchens tonight. Hitchens was a huge admirer of Orwell. They were both great journalists and pretty good writers too. Discuss.

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In part, because anti-stalinism, in part so they can claim the virtue of being fighters against authoritarianism and simultaenously claim that people against them just want le nightmare state.
MI5 shill. Because he compiled a list of suspected communists so they'd be restricted from media or government work. To be fair, he had late stage tuberculosis at the time, which causes people to act erratic, paranoid and out or character, from brain damage.
Hitchens was also a huge faggot.

funny since if orwell were alive in 2003 he'd have given bitchens the treatment he deserved for the pathetic shilling he spewed for the imperialist machine.

Hitchens is a pompous cunt. Anybody who supported the Iraq war is a fucking shill

Orwell's works have been detached from his opinions, not surprising since
is something everybody would like to virtue signal about

I didn't know this

Because he was an mi5 infiltrator.

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More like a list of known communists to not be offered a position writing anti‐communist propaganda for the government.

This is massively, massively overblown by tankies just like how Bakunin and Proudhon hated Jews

Tankies just stop at the fact that he made a list of communists for the government. They never mention they were specifically stalinists and they were just blacklisted from making propaganda for the government. Nobody got imprisoned.

Aldous Huxley was way better than orwell, and most people who talk about orwell don't know who he is. anyone who say orwell changed their mind or he is so smart etc is retarded.
he only good at critizing the soviet union and that was way to easy during that period. i do think he was somewhat good of a person since he fougth in katalonia

Because Orwell was a spooked anti-communist reactionary.

Hitchens and Orwell are birds of a feather.

The list included anarchists you fucking retard.

I believe Hitchens did eventually recant his support for the Iraq war - similar to how he recanted his statement that waterboarding was not torture.

1984 was blatantly anti-stalinist, and everyone left of a liberal a stalinist, of course.

Oh right then what a fantastic socialist

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yup.


That was him? I remember that pickletickle doing that when I was in highschool lol


nice vague bullshit as usual

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Ctrl f on his london letters which is what google is saying it's from, yet can't find this quote at all, or context. SRC?

Because the Left has actually gotten so Orwellian themselves over the past 8 years that he really started speaking to conservatives observing its behavior, and people that used to identify as leftists as well as centrists but found themselves being gaslighted and attacked for being reasonable / having reasonable positions and not going along with the program completely went to the other side, and so the pendulum started swinging the other way. It also caused people to re-evaluate their Marxist-revisionist education and realizing what the Left's endgame looks like, and it isn't something one would want to behold or a world they'd at all want to live in

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IIRC Orwell still had somewhat actually reactionary views despite being socialist. He did call himself a "Tory anarchist", did he not?

but why

when will morons stop calling everything to the left of center 'Marxism'. Marxism is an anthropological theory about how social organization, culture, and economics have co-evolved in different ways over time. It also includes economic theories on how capitalism works (the labor theory of value).

AFAIK, this isn't that commonly taught any educational system below the graduate level, which only a small minority of students (~12%) even make it to that level to begin with. Even less in the social sciences and literature departments where that is taught. Do you really think Universities are all about indoctrinating the students into Marxism. Anyone whos been to college laughs at you for the same reason we laugh at the movie reefer madness. I was taught nothing about Marx in university except for 1 intro to anthropology course where they briefly mentioned him in the field of economic anthropology.

I'm not sure how the fuck anyone can draw a straight line from Miley Cyrus twerking -> Communism in America.

The professors think so, because postmodernists (the dominant ideology in Western academia) redefine and reimagine everything from their arbitrary perspective, one that they are too narcissistic to see as biased. Nothing makes sense in American academia unless you've been sucked deep enough into their infinite void of obscurantism that none of your own statements are objectively meaningful.

Basically, there are exceptions to this rule, but if you hear an academic use the word "narrative" frequently, immediately regard them as an unperson.

No it isn't in fact they are very anti Marxist. Alot of postcolonial theory is a reaction against marx's theories of historical materialism. Its ironic that the right calls idpol postmodern liberals 'Marxist', on the other hand those liberals are saying Marx was a eurocentric dead white man thinker and socialism is irrelevant to brown people.
postmodern philosophy is only dominant in continental philosophy, the anglo countries are dominated by Analytical philosophy.
Why don't you listen to this actual Marxist refute identity politics:
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That is my point. Their ideological claims are so asinine because they are too stupid and self-absorbed to ever see themselves as fallible, and end up being useful idiots for the very establishment they claim to oppose.

In this sense, they are the left wing equivalent of ancaps.

This is why.

lol this article

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More proof that trots are actually closeted neocons

Proudhon was vehemently antisemitic. He lowkey called for their extermination.

He was an anarchist not a trot you dumb tank

He was a libertarian demsoc you twats: he said this himself.

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Because Nineteen Eighty-Four has become a part of mainstream pop culture and was therefore emptied of its radical content. You can easily make a reference to the book without having actually read any of it — let alone having understood and studied it below its surface level.

It's like the surrealist paintings of René Magritte. Derivative iconography can be found everywhere in advertising — his portrait was even featured on the 500 Belgian Francs note before the currency was replaced with the Euro. Yet he was communist and considered his paintings to be at least in part an expression of that conviction. Nobody today is aware of that, most just know his paintings are weird and funny and they can use them as avatars on Facebook to look cool.