Amazing logical deduction. People want to live in comfort! Holy shit.
David Gray
Capitalism keeps more people hungry and impoverished than any other force in existence in today's world.
Isaiah Hill
If capitalists think humans are greedy and self interested, what's wrong with workers acting in their self interest and destroying capitalism to reap the rewards of a society oriented for the masses, not the few?
Brayden Foster
ur gay lol
Juan Gonzalez
This is obviously the case. Unfortunately we are impervious to such shaming tactics and are a rather unrepentantly amoral board.
Jace Anderson
bla bla bla When there's no more tax money to bail out the banks in the next financial crisis, people will understand they can't eat money and corruption apologists like you will be hanged in public squares.
Cameron Thompson
No, I just want to save Earth and restore the balance.
Jayden Sullivan
Be honest cappies, you only want capitalism because you're happy that you're rich
Dominic Fisher
Yes. And since I have no wish to be rich, as that would make me more of an alienated monster, your argument is invalid.
Now, go read a book or something, faggot.
Christopher Miller
Nah brah. I just want to kill/hurt people like you and the god kings whose dicks you suck.
Easton Allen
I'd prefer to own what I create thank you very much
Adrian Fisher
Tell the 100 million who starved to death under Stalin/Mao's agricultural commie policies
Colton Brooks
poor person is a commie: lol you're just not good enough at capitalism rich person is a commie: lol you're such a fucking hypocrite
so how much money exactly are you allowed to make in order to criticize capitalism?
Alexander Lopez
Go on, name me one time communism ever worked
Daniel Morgan
Even if that were an accurate number it's hilariously dwarfed by the number of people who starve under capitalism.
Lincoln Powell
Be honest classcuck, you only want capitalism because you love the taste of your boss cock in your mouth.
Levi King
Wait I thought all communists post USSR are middle class white kids rebelling against their parents…You retards cant even keep your own shitty arguments straight
Evan Evans
Also, we never had true capitalism, only crony capitalism! Checkmate commies!
Isaac Walker
Enjoying your satellite tech, dweeb?
Dylan Jones
Everyone who has more money than me deserves to die.
Luke Adams
Enjoying your computer, made for consumption, dweeb?
James Fisher
Yes, so say goodbye to your toothbrush richboy.
Jason Martinez
Coming from a porky family, and assuming you're right, there wouldn't be any reason to advocate socialism right? Guess what. There is more in life that matters than income, showing off commodity trinkets, consumption, growth and all such other related things. Is life worth living without love (For people, family, passion, etc.)? Is it worth getting up if the only purpose is to consume? When the beauty is snuffed out in the name of "progress" and "efficiency"? Can you be comfortable if you knew we're diving head first into the abyss? Is the sight of ugliness palatable to you?
Speak for yourself?
Cooper Nelson
Yeah, all these African dictatorships run on corruption and nepotism sure are model societies of economically liberal democracies in action!
Hudson Wood
I'm probably the richest person on this board, and probably on 8ch tbqhwy, and I'd be pretty happy with many left wing policies that would ultimately result in me being poorer financially. Communism? That's something I see as being more theoretical than a practical possibility, or as some long term goal that may be achieved in 500 years.
Gabriel Richardson
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Jaxson Taylor
Yep, thanks to internet tech that couldn't have been developed under free market forces and are continually threatened by free market forces
Charles Martin
Fund the red armband idea, I love it and want to go LARPing.
Luke Adams
TL;DR GOBBUNISM IS BIG GOVERNMENT OMG STOP TELLING ME THAT YOU READ A BUNCH IF BUKS DAT SAID COMMUNISM REALLY A STATELESS CLASSLESS MONEYLESS SOCIETY SUCH CUCKS YOU DON'T EVEN SUPPORT GUN OWNERSHIP NO STOP QUOTING MARX AND LENIN WHEN THEY SAY GUN OWNERSHIP BY THE PROLEITAT FUCKING NERDS
Chase Wood
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Dominic Sanders
Lmao don't pretend you think China is capitalist. Can't even get your own shitty propaganda straight lmao
Adam Hughes
Don't forget middle class commie: You stupid champagne socialists know what suffering is!
Jackson Sanders
thanks for the contribution
Aiden Cook
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Ayden Garcia
A lot of people are into it because of the promise that one day it will be their turn to eat.
Blake Perry
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Carter Jenkins
wew
Joshua Morris
ITT I learned leftypol likes to pretend 99% of the population is starving to death in current Western societies
Gavin Hughes
Communism hasn't existed, since communism a stateless, classless, moneyless society. Please, read a book.
Nathaniel King
Don't you mean 100 trillion?
Bentley Hall
He means one trillion bazillion quadrillion gazillion million deaths. Have you ever read a book? Duh
Carter Cook
Too bad population growth was unprecedented under Stalin and Mao
William Cook
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Christian Campbell
Made me think
Also capitalism may not always work, but communism never works, and everyone here has yet to name a place where it has
Jeremiah Martin
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Samuel Scott
No one said 99% of people are starving anywhere, but capitalism is a global system and focusing on the west is a way to mask the extent of the losers in the system. And even in the west 15% of households are food insecure in places like the US. And those are the ones that have homes.
Jackson Cruz
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Connor Powell
There's your problem right there
Matthew Wood
Because communism hasn't been tried. Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society. Name one of those.
Christian Peterson
But user we've never had true capitalism in America it's all crony capitalism
William Brown
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Caleb Torres
t. Literal Retard
Capitalism is inefficient. It creates trivial/useless products just to create money for its proponents, while allowing millions to starve to death every year. It encourages practices such as planned obsolescence ( >1708936 like most of our computers and smartphones) and only incentivizes actions that are profitable, rather than actions that are beneficial to the community and humanity at large. And FURTHERMORE, it not only makes people work meaningless jobs that can be eliminated (such as Walmart greeters) or automated (taking orders at a fast food chain), but SIMULTANEOUSLY creates an artificial shortage of work by tying said work to profit. If you really think there's no work, take a spin around the hood sometime; see the crumbling, boarded-up buildings, failing school systems, and general misery of our poorest countrymen. Unless you're too much of a pussy, which I really don't doubt.
What we have here is a system that is not tailored to our needs, but rather to the desires of a select few individuals who control vast amounts of resources. If you're fine with this, you're either an idiot or a sociopath; possibly both.
Maybe, if you stick around long enough, you'll finally realize how much you're fucking yourself and the rest of humanity. Until then, either read a book or lurk moar, you fucking bootlicker.
Ethan Robinson
made me tinkle
Connor Stewart
That's far rightists and liberals for you.
Logan Williams
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Ryder Lee
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Dominic Morgan
really penetrated the membrane
Jason Baker
Also, no communist has wanted to be a business owner, we all want to be communal ownership of the means of production. Can you tell me what the means of production are, OP? No? Oh, you don't even know what communism? Oh. I'm sorry that you lack any understanding of Marxist thought. Leave.
Ryan Jenkins
You know you've got nothing when you get mad when your own nonargument just gets used against you
Adrian Moore
Those Indians in the high rises are doing absolutely fine.
Tyler White
Are you actually rich, or just hoping you will one day be?
Joseph White
Heres a hint from someone who lived in "commie" country and had "commie" neighbours, we had so little food we were exporting it to Asia,Africa and South America.
The whole bread lines meme happened in the 90's when Soros and USA crashed communism and started the transition to capitalism.
The irony in these arguments is the people who always defend crony capitalism are the lowest of trash and parasites aka NEETs because they like the parasitic way and they dont to change.
Charles Nelson
I was kind of hoping you guys were better than this, but who am I joking
And this is how I know you have lost the argument, OP. You came here thinking you'd BTFO us with cheap shots and that we wouldn't respond to the substance of your arguments. Once that happened, you resort to posts like this.
Daniel Murphy
top wew, kid.
Anthony Perry
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Hudson Davis
No matter what ideology you adhere to, if "bad evidence" is a laughable reason to question a claim for you then you're absolutely worthy of derision
Logan Nguyen
Says the retard who can't refute the arguments placed forward by said commies and so results to memes.
Julian Walker
OP is very quiet now.
Jonathan Hill
Post a meme rebuttal, get a meme response back
Luke Garcia
That space race was nothing more than a dick measuring contest and Russia didn't even make it to the moon
Samuel Gray
So they didn't even make it to the moon, Mars, Venuz? Wow. They did, all you did was get to the moon with a manned mission first. The Soviets landed on the moon, Mars and Venus first. The first woman and man, animal and satellite in space were Soviet.
You also do realise the USSR suffered the least from the great depression which was caused by capitalism?
Jeremiah White
I love your work on prison planet btw
John Gonzalez
At least do the most minimal research, even use wiki for this stuff. This is often reliable, but figures for deaths and actual politics is not especially with the USSR.
Jayden Sanchez
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Noah King
Momentum doesn't disappear the moment you enter vacuum.
There's still the kinetic energy of moving the flag around and sticking it into the ground, which causes the flag to "wave"
Parker Bennett
Can you also name all the forms of property there are?
Eli Perez
You mean Marxist Leninist states? May surprise you to know that Communism isn't EVERYTHING the USSR, Cuba and Communist China did.
Compare NASA budget back then to NASA budget right now + compare technology back then to technology right now and explain to me why USA isnt sending people to Moon anymore? Hell the NASA isnt even sending people to orbit anymore and when they used to do in last 10ish years they had to pay RUSSIA to use their launching station in Kazakhstan.
Dominic Garcia
Communism is government meme again. Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society.
Jack Sanders
He didn't say that, niglett. He said that not EVERYTHING (He even capitalized the whole word, for fuck's sake) those countries did was communism, which is true. They didn't achieve complete stateless, classless, moneyless societies, which while they were able to accomplish some stuff, means they were socialist, not communist.
Daniel Parker
Just because someone tries to implement/achieve something doesn't mean they did it. It's like saying that everyone who worked on nuclear reactions before the first one succeeded were real nuclear scientists and therefore what they had were real nuclear reactions. Fucking what? Why are all capitalist attacks this bad?
Jacob Morales
The difference between a communist saying not real communism and a capitalist saying not real capitalism is that the communist has an objective clear points on what makes something communist.
A capitalist just believes that true capitalism is voluntary interaction. This is vague and can mean what you want it to me. Capitalists just move the goal posts so they can never be wrong.
Christopher Lopez
/lefypol/ upset not because they aren't rich, but because they are NEETs and have no income besides what the government may give them.