Will socialism give me a gf

three threads about /r9k/ garbage in the first page only, amazing

What's more ridiculous is Holla Forumstards act like being neonazi LARPing shitheads will score them a gf. smdh tbh fambroghini I'm with OP on this one mos def.

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I agree it's annoying, but just maaaaybe it points to a problem with human relations under capitalism we should try to address????

Could it be … A L I E N A T I O N ????

Nice digits.

These are legitimate worries for some men. We should come up with a solution instead of just shouting them down. Partly you can tell them that they have next to no hope under capitalism anyway, so Socialism is taking a chance for success over assured failure. At least under socialism, they can continue to stay at home and play games without the threat of starvation.

Why have sex when you can instead masturbate to the thought of international proletarian revolution?

I tell you what, I sometimes really do wonder if the people here are vanguard material at all.

Anyway, the capitalist porn industry alienates the individual.

You have no struggle if your biggest concern in life is only being able to fuck your waifu body pillow.

The revolution will be volcel or it won't be a revolution at all

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go away porku

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all the robots are coming out again, thought i'd resurrect this thread

reminder that nobody gives a fuck if you can't get laid and that it isn't that fucking hard anyway

like jesus just take five seconds out of your day and be less of a weeb faggot and you'll be fine

die

It's a legitimate concern, once there's no money and "status" to compensate for being ugly or beta, who the fuck is going to want to fuck you? In fact, who the fuck is going to give a shit about you period?

Friends, Family, Neighbours, Coworkers?

You'd be surprised. I mean, I'm married and all, but some guys just can't get to it. We must accept that this is something that happens. This is like saying it's not hard to get a good-paying job, so suck it up. Now, that doesn't mean that we should have state-issued girlfriends, but it certainly means that we have to understand things from their point of view. I think technology is a solution to this problem. We won't really have to worry about it by the time socialism comes.

Relative status might still exist. If you're a great writer, or comedian even, women will fuck you, or men too.

If I knew you personally, I would. After all this, I still have a heart. There are very few people I dislike, and none that I currently know. It may be a character flaw, but I tend to see the good in people, and most people have enough good in them to be likable.

well if all these fags used all the free time they already have plus the even greater free time communism will give to improve themselves instead of watching anime,playing vidya and shitposting they would have a decent chance at getting a qt 3.14 wifey.

Hell I bet a could chunk of them could already get an average looking wife, problem here is average, say here in america is fat, uninteresting, particularly,is quite obnoxious and will argue with you a lot,while these fags want a 9/10, submissive, demure, excellent cook and home keeper wife that will never argue with them.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the majority of men who can't get gfs. The problem lies with female standards.

Whatever helps you sleep at night bro.

Yea there something wrong with both male and female standards. But I think a lot of it is technology. People forget how to fucking talk to each other, unless through text message.

You so desperately want men to be part of the problem too, when it's common for men to worship even "low-tier" females.

Completely unrelated. If anything, technology has allowed women to be more social & promiscuous through apps and shit.

no waifu no laifu

oh my god we get it you can't successfully complete the very easy task of getting women to fuck you and it's womens' fault

shut the fuck up about it already you stupid fucking nazi, it's just you and a very small group of broken anime-loving fuckheads who have this problem

seriously what is so hard about sleeping with women. you just start a conversation and behave like you couldn't give a fuck whether they want to fuck you - works literally every time

what is so hard about not acting like a desperate crybaby little cunt for the hour it takes to get a woman to want to fuck you. i am not chad thundercock, i didn't bother getting laid for a very long time, but once i did bother it simply was not difficult given a basic level of human empathy

also that pic you posted is obviously of a dude who is into that sort of thing. people do shit like that, and all the moaning and concentration camping in the world won't change that.

Not really, I'm married. I have no problem talking to women.

And I see the opposite side of what you are talking about. I teach college classes, I see this nerdy, QT 3.14 girls who get nervous and flustered talking to guys. I mean these are girls that I would fuck if I could but they get overlooked because they're not busty and blond and super slutty.

It really comes down to how outgoing these people are. if you don't talk to the opposite sex you aren't getting laid. All other shit aside that's the big one

Hear yourself?
You're an asshole. Females like assholes. Nice guys are left in the dirt in this world. It must be changed.

yes continue to bitch about how all women are whores looking for a Chad or Tyrone, I'm that will help you start a relationship

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Those of us at the bottom know that there's no hope of joining the system at this point.
What I seek to do is educate other males and put their thoughts into words so that we can organize and demand change and have a revolution

do you really think a fascism will tolerate you and hand you out a free wife?

Mussolini fascism no, Hitler National SociaIism yes. Hitler was incel in his youth, and his Germany was about empowering nerds. The natural progression would have been government matchmaking

and why would you assume you would get a good wife? The men who will award the best wives would already be successful in their careers and incels would be denied wives are just get the left overs.

I'm a fairly intelligent man, in a world where your status isn't decided by how sexually successful you are I would be king.

Why should we come up with a solution for random idiots autism? If their issues stem from the socio-economic system, then socialism might prevent such things in the future as people grow up under it, but it still won't help people who have already grown up to be degenerates.

autistic knowledge of a narrow few subjects isn't all there is to intelligence, you have to know how to read and communicate with people in any civilization, you think some software engineer is going to be held in the same regard as a industry Barron or even something like a lawyer in a nat soc society?

And I'm taking your "fairly intelligent" statement as fact. A large portion of incels aren't even academically gifted.

How intelligent can you possibly be if you're a nazi?

Well at least there won't be women leveraging their uteruses in every situation. So they won't be "fucking up" after revolution.

Because they have feelings too. Why should you help anyone?

I would say that interpersonal relationships do have something to do with the social system in place. Either way, I don't think it will be a problem for too long. Human companionship is quickly becoming overrated and sex with machines is bound to come soon.

collectivize woman

For every qt nerdy college girl who is nervous and flustered talking to guys, there is at least one nerdy college guy equally flustered.

And then you might also find worse cases in guys.

They are just as overlooked, as the guys capitulate before even talking to them. Sure some guys are stupid in the way that you speak. But some guys are stupid in the way that they reject themselves in the first place for various reasons. Losing their confidence and self-esteem, or other mental and emotional problems.

And then inevitably they lose faith in their abilities, plunging deeper into depression and the general uselessness.

Currently reading a Czechoslovak book on topic of mental hygiene and in first chapter it states that no amount of bourgeois mental health treatment and prevention will overcome the antagonistic relationship between the exploited and the exploiters(job creators).

It can be easily deducted which issues stem from socio-economic system and which are merely a result of poor socialization during growing up. And it can also be deducted how the poor socialization of certain young people is caused by the socio-economic relationships and system.

Who knows how can resocialization of these fallen people help them to become less miserable. And maybe have some social skills.

At least in socialism, there would be in the interpersonal relationships a safety net to detect when a person is engaging in escapism, instead of living the life. Today people are dumbfounded on the phenomenon of hikikomori, shut-ins and neets, because at this rate, personal failure is not a sufficient explanation.

At this point, I would not mind throwing my life away and dedicating it to industrial espionage/ reverse engineering/ R&D job for a socialist country with a working platform for such. Of course such noble sacrifice would go in vain because such alternative would force me to actually have a life, a girlfriend probably.

Because workoholism in socialism would be seen as escapism. If one only works and sleep, it is seen as a sign of some sickness. As the saying goes, injury to one is injury to all.

In capitalism, caring about these people is an impediment to the one who cares, due to the competitive nature of the job market. To help the shut-in is to temporarily have a loss of free time or money. Psychotherapy costs money.

In socialism, one extra person contributing to the social production means less labour per person generally. So to help the escaping shut in is to help everyone.

It is hard when you psych yourself out to think that no woman would want you.
Couple it with the abundance of porn and related porn induced erectile dysfunction(mental thing), you have
guys that have lost faith in themselves.

There is a difference between being nice because you don't care if people are nice back to you, and when you actually implicitly assume that your niceness will be repaid.

Yet your flag stands for system that perpetuates the economic exploitation and in addition turns people like you into kanonenfutter.

If you hate your life that is okay, but others want other people to enjoy their lives. The thing is called empathy.

And now as a concluding remark, in a system where it is not profitable to uplift the poor out of the material poverty, and instead some peanuts get given away to soothe some sad fuckers conscience, also known as charity, how can one expect anything emancipatory to occur from the wish of those profitting on the system, having all the power.

I've never met a desperate robot that wasn't extremely reactionary

srsly. If you're here and sexually frustrated the likelihood of you accumulating the social capital necessary for intercourse will likely go down under socialism. More than likely your best, possibly only chance of climbing the dominance hierarchy to an acceptable mate-worthy position is through the accumulation of wealth under capitalism. I person currently is only valued based on their character and their material wealth, and when the latter goes away the former will become much more valuable.

The fact that guy actually treats a "low value" woman well and isn't a cruel autist probably has a lot to do with why he fucks and you don't

This tbh. Only a small clique of men will get laid under true socialism. The rest will be relegated to sex bots and the like. It's a sad truth, robots should honestly just shoot up sorrorities and shit some more, that's the only way people will care about thier "plight"

If you're a robot you'd be better off under capitalism 100%

Historically, homosexuality has been much more connected to the far right.

Is Holla Forums the most normie board on this site

Everyone here sounds like Chad Thundercock

A communist society will be utterly dominated my sexual intercourse, which will become the new currency for people to trade.

Chad will basically become the new porky
Naturally this appeals to Holla Forums since they are all alpha chads

unfortunately, the moment anything to do with sex and social rejection is mentioned, the majority of users of this board suddenly transform into free-market 'sex capitalists' yelling "muh bootstraps" and that men without partners should commit suicide because they can't compete

doesn't look like it's going to change anytime soon. i don't bother trying to discuss it anymore

It's just a meme you faggot nigger.

Not Chad, but I think most here are comfortable enough with our social status that we don't need to worry about sexual politics.

I've started to sound more like a Chad ever since I started drifting towards leftism. Don't get it wrong, I'm still untainted by sex, I simply can't give a shit about petty things like getting laid ever since I got into theory.

Our goals are more complicated than getting laid as much as I would like to be.

EAT SHIT SEXHAVERS

I mean, I never even met an unironic "chad" irl that wasn't made fun of by anyone that has some kind of brain.

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Not just that. About 80% of threads here are some combination of shitposting Nazis, shitposting feminists, and "what would x be like under communism".

I sympathize with my incel comrades
But seriously the only way you're delusional expectations of guaranteed romantic partners is at best a call for a mind bendingly authoritarian strength and at worst a horrifying reactionary dystopia

We are NOT Chads, we are regular people. All I'm saying is there's no solution I think think of for you besides sexbots or something retarded like state assigned gfs

If you can think of a better solution i'd love to hear it

Actually the proper solution is just to develop AI.

That could take centuries to be viable

/r9k/ everyone

Thanks for reminding me why robots are some of the worst posters everywhere.

Do you have autism?

how about encouraging women to start valuing men by their personalities and principles, rather than by their material wealth and social status?

I believe that stuff like assigned gfs and all that bullshit are dumb too, I don't know about a solution but I would be satisfied even if socialism wouldn't fix it. In my opinion, with actual proper psychological care and advancement, social sperging could be "cured", and stupid shit like incelism or neetism or meme depression would become much less of a problem with these cures + the vanishing of the social circumstances created by capitalism that creates them. Only I find leftypol attitude toward it irritating.
to be honest I hate these kind of threads too but sometime I shitpost in them. My solution for them would be to bumplock them and actually creating some reading stuff in the faq for robots like lacan or I don't fucking know so they are redirected there and these threads can finally disappear

Are there even any girls on this board?

Chads are physically incapable of empathizing with people who aren't like them (chads)

That's why their solutions to shit is always "just b urself" or "resocialization camps"

Also, why do I never see females who post desperate cringe shit like "will socialism give me a bf"?

Holla Forums aren't Chad's they're neurotypical normie liberals LARP'ing as communists and then there's a huge number of them who are Omegacels and are in the same boat you are user. We have like 2 or 3 handsome guys on this board who get tons of pussy and that's it.

Women know they can get a boyfriend whenever, they just have to let one of the desperate dudes begging for her attention finally have a chance.

Females can can get a bf whenever, acting like they can't is just for attention, and obviously a leftist political board isn't a good place for that

Can confirm, nothing makes a girl's pussy quiver like when she hears those three special words: NAZBOL GANG FOREVER

Just hoochie, peebles, and catgrill

See

Also, girls don't post here, silly. All the anfems are actually FBI.

I've got a good face and am fit, but I'm 5'9" and pretty weird. I manage to fuck girls most weekends but can't get a gf or any real connection to most people and deal with depression. Does that make me Chad Thundercock?

In a lot of cases they do. I mean when it comes to getting fucked they'll probably prioritize looks and some bitches are golddiggers, but a lot of Chad Thundercocks aren't bf material for grills and there's not enough of them around to block every single other dude from hookups.

We probably have the most girls (female) on this site. At least two are qt.

God fuck posting mobile

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How do I start wanting to have sex again? I used to have libido but theory has rotten my brain
t. sightly concerned volcel

You touch your pecker until the milk comes out.

no sadly you are a fuckboi, you troll for pussy every weekend, probably hit up plenty of girls who reject you, but you do this systematically and strategically enough that you get hits every weekend. you fuck them, they get their fix, then they either shoo you away or you slink off aware that you just satisfied a high and nothing more. You are a perpetual dissapoint to every woman who may have wanted something more but realized you're incapable of relating with them or sparking a romantic interest in their hearts, you yourself long to be loved and respected by a women but you don't know how to look into her eyes and see another human being, all you see is someone to satisfy your craving for pleasure and company. Chad is a psychopath, he literally doesn't feel anything when he fucks women and doesn't want to be loved, he legitimately hates women and himself and thus doesn't care at all about romance or intimacy. His wife is a trophy, a servant, not something he puts much thought into.

I really don't mind staying a virgin, I don't know if that makes me volcel or whatever.

In any case, I do think whatever "problem" there is with not everyone getting sex, it'd get significantly worse under communism. Maybe that's actually a good thing and cause an eugenics wave that makes all the beta genes die out eventually.

Regardless, it has to be a minor problem compared to wageslavery, I think even most robots would agree unless they are completely autistic Elliot Rodgers. I'd take avoidance of wageslavery over getting a gf any fucking day.

stop with the memes

Holy fuck user, who hurt you?

memes > genes

Or maybe he, like the women he fucks, are just having fun (remember that, you sadsack motherfucker?) and the insistence that there must be some deep emotional connection between them and that they must be eternally bound together forever is just some feudal/bourgeois shit made up to perpetuate domestic servitude and extend the logic of exclusive property into the domain of the home?

Maybe you're the porky cunt, you ever think about that?

You change the system until women are desirable again, instead of potential threats to your livelihood.

So the difference between me and chad is I want something I can't have while chad doesn't give a fuck? other than the pua shit this is pretty much me

10/10s can produce an ugly autist and ugly parents can make good looking kids. "Betas" won't die out till we get genetic engineering.

eumemetics not eugenetics

If you want a peak in the mind of a robot read these

thanks for turning sex into a disposable consumer product

Chad is neurologically incapable of caring about women or other human beings, he has both no environmental stressors which would induce empathy nor the necessary intricate dopamine-Oxytocin pathways to experience empathy. He is a handsome Great White Shark. You are a Pavlovian dog.

I didn't say 'stop having feelings for people' you fucking autist, I said that feeling deep romantic love wasn't necessary, and that the insistence on it is a holdover from proprietarian distortions of human relationships. Feel free to have feelings, or don't. Just don't feel guilty either way.

Speak for yourself my man. If I can't get a gf in socialism I'm for sure going full Elliott Rodger and shooting up some sex-havers

I told you, communism will turn sexual intercourse into a new form of money. You can't stop people from trading for goods and services.

It all starts with a simple "I'll fuck you if you do this and that"

Damn, user, we need to unplug you so you stop projecting so hard.

How's middle school going?

Holy fuck if we opened you up there'd just be busted fucking gears and unwound springs, wouldn't there? You are a borken fucking person, my dude. Turn off the computer and go outside. Talk to a real live person. Avoid bringing up your favourite magical girl anime. And most of all get the fuck over yourself.

You're not getting it, I don't perceive them either positively or negatively because I don't see them as something you fuck, probably because of my focus on Holla Forums related topics. It's an okay state, but I think it might be sightly concerning from other points of view.

Your implications have no effect on me, you pathetic fuck. Maybe if you weren't so obviously damaged then I might have my feelings a little hurt.

the catchphrase of the slut

So you're saying chad is the mental mirror image of a robot, in that they are the "ugly shark" to the chad's "pretty shark"?

Bravo
Bravissimo

I think I should try to spam or derail this thread since it's getting too shit, any ideas what should I use? I'm thinking of copypasting something

It's never enough for Chad until literally every pussy on the planet belongs to him - But don't worry, they're just "casual sex friends"!

You'll also get your turn eventually… If you clean Chad's shoes with your toothbrush.

projection and funny
No, marriage and pair-bonding are ancient and fucking swans and plenty of species of birds do this. You're scientifically and historically illiterate and you are this way right now, in order to reflexively defend your degenerate behavior and disgusting culture.
The home isn't a prison, its a home, where children are born and raised, where people cook dinner and have sex and tell stories about their day. Its a living, breathing space that animals and plants and humans share. Its a private place among public places. Leftism isn't about taking away people's domiciles and clothes and wives and dogs and children, its about taking away rent-seeking and usury and landlordism and speculation and the State. Stop trying to sneak in Capitalist fun with Leftism. I've read enough to know that Stalin banned homosexuality and that the early Socialists were not huge fans of feminism, or free-love or homosexuality like most modern leftists are. The home is not the enemy of the Left.
The home is personal property, its something you inhabit everyday and it protects you from the elements. Humans like birds need nests, you can get rid of factory owners and governors and real estate moguls while letting proles live in their cottages with their dog and 2 kids and loving wives. You just hate happy families.
no I don't want people living in palatial estates, being waited on by robot servants with my genetically modified test-tube off-spring and my resurrected tasmanian wolf-dog. That would be an ancap. I also don't want to float around in zero G all day with my 20 BF's having an orgy while we all are plugged into Noosphere tech and being sprayed with Soma in mists along with injected with nootropics that enhance our VR/AR escapist nihilist fantasy sequence. I'm not a FALC commie either. You guys are much closer to being decadent bourgeoisie narcissists than I am.

All i want is for plain jane, normal guys to be able to get cute wives (who don't have to be hot or beautiful) and have kids and pets and be happy. That's it. I want small isolated communities of happy families who live long lives and aren't bothered by crime or warfare or disease or corruption. That's my ideal, no eternal life or robots or noosphere tech or space colonies or resurrection of the dead messiah are necessary for my ideal society.

The funny part is you're the one who comes across as a piece of shit

Yeah, start spamming cute girls or something. Just fuck my thread up, fam

There are literally 0 people in existence who want to stop people from trading anything.

Maybe some theory while we're at it?

this is a disturbingly good take, I'm stealing this idea from you user

Every christian knows that hell is terrible, but what would be even more terrible is if people enjoyed hell.

The Omega-Alpha axis is well documented, they are literally mirror images of each other. Betas are pathetic comparatively groveling for pussy scraps and laughing at Chad's jokes, isolating Omegas because they're too dense and up-their-own-asses to understand their weird autistic existences. Omegas are robots, Chad is Alpha, everyone else is Beta. And Betas are fucking faggots and the source of most of the world's problems

It's a nice ideal, but you said it yourself, you can't have it when people are allowed free choice in sexual partners

Chad doesn't understand love. He just thinks of it as this inconvenient thing that makes people complain that he can't fuck and leave whoever he wants without consequences. Clearly porky must be behind it.

Life can exist on other planets, in other solar systems, in other galaxies and universes.

The passage of matter from the inorganic to the organic state could take place in a different manner to how it does on Earth, such that energy could be used in a more effective manner. Here, we barely know how to make best use of the oil and, in a very limited fashion, nuclear energy that we have at hand. They, on the contrary, may be on the way to exploiting all the energy existing in matter. They can use all the energy that we still do not know how to employ on Earth, and transform it into light. It could be that matter is organised differently in other planetary systems or galaxies, in infinite combinations and in totally different forms to those that we know on Earth. We cannot imagine what it is like, but we can imagine very well that there may be an organisation of energy infinitely superior to what we have here. In the Soviet Union, they have discovered a ray infinitely faster than light, which is something totally new.

This same ray may have been discovered on other planets millions of years ago, and already been used. While we take X amount of time to get from one continent to another, they perhaps do it in a half-second. The conception of life and the organisation of matter are determined by all such things. This energy must contain a property and force infinitely superior to anything we know. We can conceive of a being which, just by raising its hand, can produce light, draw energy to it, push it away, and organise it. It is possible. We are habituated to seeing and conceiving of life on Earth, in the commercial sense of private property, the feeling of possession, which is the basis of social development before the coming of the workers’ state. It is this that determines the purpose of life and its relation with other planets. When they plan a journey to another planet, they do so in order to see how to exploit and dominate it, because science is subjected to those who pay for it. Science is not independent.

It is not the same thing as when you plant a plant, to reap what you want from this. In this case, even if we are subject to nature, we determine what happens. Science, on the contrary, is subject to those who finance it. Astronomers, physicists, where should they go to find the equipment for their research? They cannot do so, without money. They are not, as individuals, rich enough to pay for these things and also get by. It is the capitalist state, or indeed the Soviet state, that has the means to pay. They can thus install their equipment, but they limit their capacities to capitalist interests or the bureaucratic limitations imposed by the leadership of the workers’ state. That is why our knowledge of physics, of matter, of astronomy is still at only an embryonic stage. We still have no real knowledge of what exists. We constantly correct the very basis of discoveries, whether for Newton, Einstein or all the others. The forms and combinations of matter are infinite. There are forces within it that we do not utilise. We must discover the power of what it is possible to do. The force that allows us to raise our arms is called ‘kinetic energy’. Why this energy? What is it that impels the activity of the cells? There is no outside force. It is an internal movement. What is this force? The force that impels movement is a source of energy, which must have a primary form of development even before it lifts the arm, because there already exists the capacity that allows us to conceive, in our spirits, of the need to raising our arms.

One Japanese scholar advanced a conclusion, rather like our own, concerning earthquakes: he said that it was criminal to waste the energy made by these earthquakes. It is possible to make an system drilling into the Earth – like a sort of radar – measuring all the movements, the gases within the Earth, its interior shifts due to gas or to the rotations of the Sun and the Earth, of which scientists are still unaware. The Japanese scholar also said that we could predict, contain and, indeed, make use of this energy. We said the same thing at the time of the Chilean earthquake of 1961.

This. Literally the people shitting on spergs are no different from capitalism's "hyoumon naycher" fags

N O R M A L F A G G O T

Scientific knowledge is still limited as regards understanding the organisation of matter that has permitted a certain form of life and reproduction on Earth. Our scientific capacity is limited as a result of the missed possibilities of such a study, as well as being limited by lack of financial means. It is the capitalists who have these means in hand. They have capitalist interests. This is a very significant limitation.

indirect social violence, structuring sex around exclusive environments and the commodification of sex through wish lists and sugar daddies and trips to vacation homes is not a free society. Capitalism isn't voluntary, its a race against time to not be pushed out of your place in the world, if the porky bought the river you better get resources to trade for passage or figure out a way to move resources that doesn't require it. Its not the way you are framing it to be. Sex is absolutely subject to mind control and indirect structural violence based decision making, just like how drug dealing and gambling and drug addiction are. If it applies to addicts and gang bangers it applies to sorority girls and business jocks.

Moreover, our capacity and audacity for making further observations are limited by the conception of the world established by the appropriation and utilisation of property. Our knowledge is limited by particular interests and social prejudices. This is evidently the case, for example, as regards heart transplants. Capitalist mentalities prevent the bourgeoisie from having any perspective, impeding them from taking an interest in the world and limiting their daring to observe it. If they had audacity and resolution, they would realise that they have gone awry and that their existence is no longer justified. Their interests limit and box them in. They place the same limits on science, chemistry and medicine. Conversely, there is no reason why this should be so on other planets.

Holy fuck I'm screencapping this entire thread it's gold

The class struggle does not have to exist. On Earth, on the contrary, the process of history has played out like this. There is no reason why the same should be true of other planets. The organisation of society could take on infinitely superior forms, without struggle and antagonisms. There is no reason for fighting. If beings on other planets saw us, they would say, astonished: ‘Oh! They are fighting over a car, shooting, killing each other!’ For them, death does not exist. Here, it does. The notion of death, the extinction of matter or of cells is not the same everywhere. For elephants, life lasts 260 years. For human beings, 100 (and on average 70-80). If the elephant can live for 260 years, it is because the organisation of matter, in this form, allows for such a long life. But why can we not imagine living as long, in a different form to the elephant? Without a trunk… why not? We do not know if beings exist in other systems or galaxies, nor how they are constituted.

But we believe that they could exist. It is possible that beings will come to study Earth, what life is like here, beings who departed their homes for Earth a million years ago. For us, that corresponds to a million years. But for them it is an insignificant figure, a normal amount. They may well not be subject to our notion of time. Time has always been and remains a notion picked up by a society divided into classes. Such a society needed to measure time in order to exploit nature. Hence this division of time.

Otherwise, there is no reason for its existence. Certainly, we have to deal with periods of time, weather and the seasons – spring, summer, autumn, winter. But there is no reason why there should be seasons on other planets. Why does it have to rain? This apart, time is of no significance. This interest in measuring time is relative to nature, to its effects on life, to the effect of energy on the organism and to due dates and billing. On other planets, there is no reason why this should be so. For example, no-one has to pay debts by a certain time or needs a heart transplant. A being on another planet who saw a heart-transplant operation would say ‘what is that they’re making?’ The notion that we have of the origin of life is something that we have learned.

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trash bag left is the worst

But each year, corrections are made to it. For example, the date of the appearance of human beings on Earth: at first people spoke of 500,000 years ago, then a million years, and now that the first anthropoid appeared some 17 million years ago.

The dialectical conception of history

All the news of UFOs (unidentified flying objects) around the various parts of the world coincide. There are many coincidences, not all of which are exaggerations. We believe and accept that these beings exist. The majority of people who have seen them say that they are normal beings; and the people who speak of them say that they do not believe in ghosts or spirits. Many people have already seen UFOs. General MacArthur, that Yankee murderer, said with regard to the disappearance of a plane that had struck a strange object: ‘perhaps we – together with the Soviets – will have to make war against an enemy arriving from outside Earth’. But conciliation of this type has its limits. Capitalism has no interest in UFOs and, as such, makes no research into them. It has no interest in occupying itself with these matters because they cannot reap profits, nor are they useful to capitalism. But people see in UFOs the possibility of advancement and progress. This thus accelerates the fall of the bourgeoisie, shown in all its uselessness. All the people who say that they have seen extra-terrestrials, UFOs, coincide in the fact that these beings have not frightened them, and that they have made themselves understood, without using an audible language, showing them that they mean no harm. They do not provoke a feeling of alarm, but of serenity. They create sensations of mellowness, suppleness, harmony, reassurance. They do not inspire any fear. They must give off a sense of security by their movements, by their facial demeanour, or in other ways. None among those who have seen them have said ‘I was scared, they frightened me’. On the contrary, they awaken a pleasant sentiment, one of respect. They must emit some sort of rays that cause this sensation, if they do exist. None among those who have seen them has said that they were attacked. They have shown no interest in attacking, violating, stealing, possessing: they have come to observe.

You're right, but I just don't know how to express that opinion without sounding like a stupid robot

Starting from the fact of the existence of extra-terrestrial beings, we can accept that UFOs also exist. We need to wait for further proof. It is possible that they have appeared, though it is also possible that there has been much fantasising, exaggeration or mystical deductions on the part of those who have seen them. But there is testimony from people who seem thoughtful. Neither the capitalist system nor the bureaucracy [in the workers’ states] have an interest in researching this subject, because they cannot draw any commercial, political or military benefit from it. Socialism, on the contrary, does have an interest in this, and so too do the masses. Capitalism feels that it has been made to look inferior, faced with a system that it sees as superior. People draw the conclusion that capitalism is useless. They say ‘Look at that! And you, what are you any good for?’ The ruling class feels diminished. If it could draw a military gain from doing so, it would conduct research. But capitalism tries, on the contrary, to spread the impression that this is fantasy, so people will not think that there are superior forms of relations and that capitalism is incapable of reaching this level. The workers’ state will act in a different way, because it has an objective interest in developing socialism. But at all events, the facts are coming to light in spite of the smokescreens, because there have already been many testimonies. The capitalist ruling circles, the chemists, the military, are hiding the facts. But all the information still gets published – amidst all the current worry about war, revolutions, the preparation of the final settling of accounts between capitalism and the world revolution, the constant strikes in anger against the capitalist system, the occupations of factories, of universities, of land – because these questions preoccupy the whole world. In spite of all these other concerns, people are interested in UFOs.

We do not know what form they take, or their number, but they must exist, or else they would not appear like this. There are reasons enough why capitalists would not invent these matters. They could try to use them to distract attention. But all this runs against their interests. They could divert attention to a concrete fact. But they do nothing but increase peoples’ certainty that the capitalists are no good. Besides, all this concern with UFOs does not stop strikes or factory occupations or revolutions, nor the progress towards socialism. The preoccupation with studying these phenomena has not yet developed in the workers’ states, given people’s concentration on getting by and because the bureaucracy is hiding these matters. It is, certainly, hiding a great amount of research that has taken place in the workers’ states. People would see forms of existence superior to those we have today. Socialism, on the contrary, has no fear in being compared with or integrated into higher forms of progress.

On the contrary, it seeks out this progress. ‘We have nothing to lose but our chains’. This phrase of Marx’s can be applied to everything. Moreover, it is absurd that people are discussing the problems with UFOs while millions of others are dying of hunger. It is capitalism and the bureaucracy of the workers’ states that have led to this prejudice that exists in the world. There are possibilities of exploiting matter that this society is incapable of employing. Capitalism, as well as the bureaucracy [in the workers’ states], is aware of this inferiority. In the workers’ states, there are researchers who do not measure things in terms of inferiority or superiority, but simply note that in other galaxies and planetary systems, in other universes, it is possible to fully utilise matter and eliminate all this concern with hunger and class struggle. It is possible to wipe the ruling classes out of existence. The system, there, is superior. The inhabitants of other planets who come here must consider the Earth’s inhabitants as mad, always fighting one another. The notion of struggle, of confrontation, certainly does not exist where they come from. Why fight? The historical foundation of the capitalists’ and workers’ states’ bureaucracies’ lack of interest in studying UFOs and living beings on other planets is that they see the threat of their own elimination. As such they do not interest themselves with the continued existence, the life, of human beings.

Everything that is not of commercial use, or does not serve to facilitate the existence and perpetuation of capitalist power, does not interest them. But since society must live and the proletariat and socialism must advance, these things stimulate people in the capitalist system to concern themselves with the existence of beings on other planets. So too in the workers’ states. The existence of flying saucers and living beings on other planets is a phenomena that the dialectical conception of history can admit. The most immediate consequence we can draw is that, if these beings do exist, they must have a societal organisation superior to our own. Their appearances are not the effect of bellicose or aggressive sentiments.

The catchphrase of the ignorant autist

If he does think that, it would explain a lot. Namely why women won't fuck him - because he's totally incapable of showing any empathy at all.

I say proprietarian distortions of human relationships are bad and you hear "we should implement the most proprietarian distortion of human relationships yet devised".

Go to a doctor, you are retarded.

Christ, again with the fucking cucking with you children! Nobody shares your ridiculous fetish! If you stopped jerking off so much and wallowing in your own self-pity for a hot minute you might gain the bare minimum amount of likeability required to fuck!

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise I was talking on the internet to a bird. That's pretty neat. Anyway, I'm from a species with penis heads that are optimally shaped for scooping out the semen of rivals from the vaginas of our sexual partners. So maybe the ideology you're spewing at me is a little irrelevant?

Fuck, it's amazing how one little misunderstanding of family dynamics in wolf packs has spawned so much retardation.

and sho on.
You're doing god's work, comrade.

This means that they have no need for war, that they do not come to Earth with goals of conquest in mind. In this planet’s history, when a people has felt itself to be more capable and invaded another country, it did so with conquest in mind, in the form of war. The class struggle on Earth is the result of the organisation of society into classes, that of the possessors and that of the exploited, the bourgeoisie set against the proletariat which wants to overthrow it and build socialism. The behaviour of these beings, if it is true that they exist, seems not to be aggressive in character. All the people who say that they have seen them, say that none of them were of an aggressive disposition or inspired fear in them. All of the say that they awakened their curiosity. If these were beings from afar (as we have known in our planet’s history) with swords, arquebuses, cannons, stones and rocks, with tools of conquest, they would inspire fear through their aggressive behaviour. But these beings come to observe, they try to make it understood that they intend no harm. Their behaviour expresses their superior organisation.

How did you acquire this wisdom user?

They have no aggressive impulse, they have no need to kill in order to live: they come only to observe. We can foresee the existence of such beings, even taking into account the fantasies that exist among the reports, stories, observations and statements. If they exist, we must call on them to intervene, to help us resolve the problems we have on Earth. The essential task is to suppress poverty, hunger, unemployment and war, to give everyone the means to live in dignity and to lay the bases for human fraternity. To this end, we must suppress the capitalist system, as well as the bureaucracy of the workers’ states and Communist Parties who do not want to seize power. The fundamental obstacle we face is the capitalist system. We must suppress the force currently in the hands of the capitalist system: nuclear weapons. Destroy all nuclear weapons. Destroy the whole military power of the capitalist system, of Yankee, French and British imperialism. Appeal to the masses and give them the means immediately to destroy capitalism, overcome the bureaucracy of the workers’ states and establish a new society: socialism.

We must appeal to the beings on other planets, when they come here, to intervene and collaborate with Earth’s inhabitants in suppressing poverty. We must make this call to them. It is possible to make ourselves understood to them. We must not, of course, expect that they will understand immediately. But we must make appeals to them, if we believe that they can, indeed, exist. If we have any possibility of making contact with them, we must not fall into individual scientific curiosity, out of some desire to see where they come from and to visit other planets.

This is how a marxist says "dem bitches only dig them rich G's"

We must unite with them, they who seem more powerful than human beings, such that they will come and help us resolve Earth’s problems. Then we can concern ourselves with going to see what other planets are like, how life and matter are organised, and everything regarding nature. But most important is first to resolve the problems of humanity on Earth. We do not have a fantasist or idealist position with regard to flying saucers. As we accept that they exist, we want to use all means at hand, including those from outside of this planet. When we seriously reach a scientific discovery, we must try to use it to the benefit of humanity.

mein gott

The infinite development of humanity’s scientific capacity

The longest human life of which we know was 160 years in duration. We can keep our full mental faculties intact up to around 80 or 90 years of age. But an elephant, which lives for more than 260 years, has a much vaster memory. That means that the length of memory can be extended. Extra-terrestrial beings could do so for more than a million years. Have there not been over a million years of human existence? And it reproduces itself incessantly, without destroying itself, without its reproduction wiping it out. Matter, in the case of mankind, persists by means of reproducing itself. It does not disappear. Just one form of the organisation of matter – the form of human life – disappears. The matter transforms into something else and takes part in the transformation of something else.

On other planets, matter could transform itself without needing to destroy its state of existence, nor its constitution as a living being. It may well not have to be reduced to ashes in order to feed something else. What is the meaning of a seed? It is matter in a primary state, which stimulates other elements and is reproduced in another form. It may be the case that among other beings, there is no need for death for the sake of reproduction. We are not saying that this is so, but it is totally possible. Energy is still used in a very mechanical, limited and rudimentary fashion. Today, we make use of the transformation of matter into energy, but not the energy that already exists in a natural state. This must be done. For example, we could suppress all oil refining, necessary to the transformation of this matter into energy. One day, energy will come from the air. Electricity is part of the structure and behaviour of matter. We profit from this because we have discovered it. But all this is very limited. Tomorrow, electricity will not be necessary. Everything that exists is energy. The condition of existence of an object is that it has energy. The organisation of the human body, the brain and other organs and senses, is that proper to Earth. On other planets it could be very different. We feed ourselves because the human organism is constituted in such a fashion as to make feeding ourselves necessary. This suits us partly for capitalism’s sake, because otherwise there would be no reason to live in submission to this system. The scientific capacity of humanity is determined by societal organisation. The organisation of society in terms of private property is very limiting, because the élan, courage and audacity it allows for are determined by the interests of individual appropriation. Our audacity is thus very limited, because it stops as soon as this interest is satisfied. If the human being goes further than this, he has the feeling of having gone too far. This societal limitation constrains the capacity of society. In socialist society, society’s capacity will be unlimited. The notion of life, existence, society, will be measured by the objective interests of life and progress. Existence and progress will be identified with one another. Notions of conservatism, parasitism, passivity, will no longer exist. Progress will be existence itself, as in the case of matter. Matter does not exist, if it does not progress and transform itself. The same is true for the life of society. It does not exist without progress. Society’s condition of existence is progress. Immediately, progress will give élan to its capacity and to its audacity, which will be a million times greater than those of the private-property system. It will not be limited or determined by what suits individual interests. All society will be there to give confidence and reassurance. Common, society-wide thought will change the forms of life. For example, in the same time that we today need to reach the Moon, we will be able to travel distances of millions of light-years.

Of course not, that would require for Chad to acknowledge that betas are unique existences. We aren't significant enough to be worthy of his attention. We're just collateral damage in his quest to fuck every pussy in the world.

Today, we speak of millions of years. Tomorrow, the measure will not be the same. We will easily find ways of solving all the problems deriving from the notions of land, gravity, and atmospheric pressure. We will find a response to the essential problem: the capacity of society, organised as a single societal thought, will be able to resolve everything. There will not be, as there are today, certain people who think, certain faculties, certain universities. Universities exist insofar as a division, a separation is made. They serve the exploitation of society for the sake of capitalist profits. That is what universities serve for. Tomorrow, we will have no need for them. Progress will be common amongst everyone: audacity facing up to nature. This question is important for a training in and knowledge of Marxism. Marxist knowledge is unlimited. It does not stop at the question of social, economic and political struggles. Understanding existence gives the assurance necessary for envisaging the solution of all problems. There is no problem beyond the remit of humanity. All the problems of humanity influence one another. The more we master knowledge of history, humanity, society and matter, the more confidence we can have in addressing problems with resolution and audacity.

Even without prior preparation and knowledge in a specific field, but scientifically prepared with Marxism as our tool, with dialectics, we can address all problems. This is the essential aspect. The other is socialist audacity, drawn precisely from the objectivity of Marxism. We are not subject to nor dependent on what exists now, nor what will come in future. We are objective and our thought has no limits. The only limit is the lack of human capacity to understand more. This human capacity is also a product of social relations. That is why in socialist society, human capacity and knowledge will be the norm for all of humanity. People will have a scientific capacity superior to Marx – which does not at all affect his historical importance.

The development of history has continued and today there exist conditions that did not exist in Marx’s time. In the near future, scientific knowledge and society’s confidence will develop the capacity of society. But we are not yet living out socialism. We are still in this society. The critical spirit is an essential condition, inherent to Marxism, of its historical force, inexhaustible up to the point where there appear superior means of interpretation allowing us to understand the processes of nature. The dialectic will be one of its aspects. The critical spirit represents a constant feeling of the need for revision, analysis, observation, study, to see what effects and what conclusions arise from the development of nature and society. Marxism in itself its irreplaceable, because it is a method for understanding the history of the world.

Means of interpretation superior to Marxism will arise – not because Marxism is incorrect – but because humanity will reach some better understanding. The dialectic will be part of some superior tool. All these people who accept the existence of flying saucers do so without the impulse or the will to develop scientific understanding, but simply because they are obliged to recognise a real event for what it is. But they do not have the systematic spirit or the objectivity to make use of the understanding that they have, in the social terrain. For example, if life does exist on other planets, this means that there exist superior forms of social organisation, which do not oblige them to live as we do here, with wars. All those who accept the existence of flying saucers, have only reported them. Like someone projecting a light onto a wall and saying ‘this is a light’. They draw no conclusions.

We, on the contrary, take up these questions in order to contribute to understanding history and, consequently, to develop our audacity. The basis of historical audacity is certitude. The Vietnamese masses are a demonstration of this. It is Marxism that gives this confidence. It is very important to concern ourselves with these questions. Yet we do not have time. Certainly, we must give full attention to those problems we find before us, without thus losing sight of other questions. We are not indifferent to these. We accept that extra-terrestrial beings exist, as a conclusion of dialectical thought. This gives us confidence that we can master no matter what other phenomena that exist, without being caught off-guard. These problems do not put the dialectical method into doubt.

Mein gott you've eaten so much from the trashcan that you've become the trashcan. Your silly cuck fetish isn't the mark of your enlightened fucking leftism you child. You have simply internalised the ideology of the commodity form so much that you have folded human relationships into it. Women aren't your property you broken fucking human being, and if you learned to treat them like people you'd be surprised at how improved your social life would be.

On the contrary, they do but confirm it. This is confirmed on every occasion. We believe that extra-terrestrial beings may exist, as well as flying saucers. This also holds, basing ourselves on the knowledge we have thanks to dialectics, with regard to the organisation of matter. There is no reason, for example, that reproduction must always take place by means of couples. There may also be self-reproduction, as is the case for the amoeba.

Why could this not also be the case for humans, in future? These beings from other planets come to observe life down here and laugh at humans, we who fight each other over who has the most cannons, cars and wealth. The possession of wealth is a distortion of human feeling by societal organisation: instead, the human sentiment is a fraternal, collective one. Possessing wealth is a degeneration of these sentiments. Why does the bourgeois want twenty cars, a hundred factories, the rank of general – why? What does that give him? Power over others? And what then? … It does not give him any capacity to raise and develop his intelligence. On the contrary, it limits it. The bourgeois class can have no interest in or perspective of seeking objectively to develop society. It is only concerned with material goods, from which it can draw profits, and thus the perpetuation and extension of private property. This limits its understanding and prevents it from thinking. Even if the information on flying saucers is fantasist – as it most often is – the historical basis for it is correct.

Please god just let this thread end, autistic reactionaries are what make this board not worth visiting.

Neither capitalism nor the bureaucracy in the workers’ states, nor any bourgeois thinker, can explain this. They are all at sea, overwhelmed. Those who could do so do not have the means, because they depend on the major scientific and research-institutions, which are themselves dependent on capitalism. It is necessary to try to understand these phenomena, not simply to increase our knowledge, but to extend the application of Marxism to all branches of knowledge. For example, thought. The speed of thought depends on the dominant material means. Thought is still very limited today. Tomorrow it will be infinitely more powerful, and quicker, too. When the class-struggle has been eliminated and harmony is a necessity of life, thought will have a field of operation and possibilities of development infinitely superior to those that exist today. Today, thought is very limited, from infancy onwards. To draw deeper conclusions on these questions, we must follow them attentively, interest ourselves with them, discuss them, learn about and study them. Other phenomena like that of UFOs will present themselves. A whole series of things will attract our attention. Is the development of matter in another universe similar to that here?

If communism is so good why didn't it win the cold war?

If it is different, what form will it take? The utilisation of matter must, certainly, take place at a superior level. Organisms are not created arbitrarily, but according to certain compositions and relations internal to matter. The organism is structured starting from inorganic matter, then taking on an organic form, and then in function of the environment in which it evolves. These beings coming from other planets with a structure similar to mankind may well originate from a process of the organisation of matter similar to that on Earth. They may also have used matter in order to take on this form. They could do so if they have mastered science, just as here we could move mountains. Mao Zedong says that we must do this with a pickaxe and a spade. But those beings do so by means of putting the mountain’s energy into action. It is possible. But it is not a problem we can resolve just now. We do not have the times or the means. Already, we can reproduce life. Certainly, this must also be true of other planets. These beings can do that. Here, we transplant hearts and kidneys, fundamental organs of the human body. But it is possible that on other planets they create life. Engels told us that already in his time it was possible to produce artificial protoplasm, this being an essential basis of the cell, and thus a basis for existence. The discussion of these questions will soon become more generalised, because it makes for the progress of humanity in its integration with nature and the universe.

Because it wasn't communism.

Conversely, if capitalism is so good why doesn't anybody buy encyclopedias anymore?

Because they haven't contacted the aliens, read the theory posted ITT

Pretty sure only Americans think America won the Cold War

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I most definitely am not a chad. And depression probably has nothing to do with serotonin, by the way.

Behold, my masterpiece

I never said you were a Chad and I was using serotonin receptors as a metaphor for a burnt out depressed person who is looking for answers and is on their last legs mentally. I'm aware that "brain chemistry" and "brain-region science" is retarded.

What book is that?

Nice Propaganda but WHY?

Enver Hoxha
First Secretary of the Central Committee of the
Party of Labor of Albania
EUROCOMMUNISM IS ANTI - COMMUNISM
Introduction

At the 9th Congress of the Communist Party of Spain, in April 1978, the Carrillo revisionists declared that their party was no longer a Marxist-Leninist party, but a "Marxist democratic revolutionary party,". "To consider Leninism the Marxism of our time," declared Carrillo, "is unacceptable."

The French revisionist leaders proposed to their 23rd Congress, held in May 1979, that they should give up referring to Marxism-Leninism in the documents of their party and use the term "scientific socialism" instead.

The Italian revisionists too, at the 15th Congress of their party in April 1979, removed from their Constitution the requirement that the members of the party should master Marxism-Leninism and apply its teachings. "The formula of 'Marxism-Leninism' does not express the whole wealth of our theoretical and ideological heritage," said the followers of Togliatti. Now anyone can take part in the Italian revisionist party, regardless of the ideology to which he adheres or which he applies.

In this way the Eurocommunist revisionists formally and publicly have sanctioned the final break with Marxism-Leninism, which in practice they had done years ago. Very pleased with this rapid and complete social-democratic transformation of these parties, the bourgeois propaganda called 1979 "the year of Eurocommunism".

In a situation when the European bourgeoisie is in great difficulties because of the grave economic and political crisis, when the revolt of the masses against the consequences of this crisis and capitalist oppression and exploitation is mounting to ever higher levels, nothing could serve it better than the anti-Marxist views and anti-worker activity of the Eurocommunists. Nothing could give greater assistance to the strategy of imperialism for the suppression of the revolution, the undermining of liberation struggles and domination of the world than the revisionist, pacifist, capitulationist, collaborationist trends, including Eurocommunism.

Because the whole idea of a Chad Dictatorship is fucking hilarious to imagine

Also unironically 100% real, the sexual marketplace and sexual caste system are real. money and looks are everything.

But what of materialism, user? We are reducible to chemical reactions, and chemical compound can affect our humor. Ketamine, for example, has a near miraculous effect on most depressives.

The money is more about perception. You can also go for the scumbag charm, but you do actually have to be a bit of a scumbag.

Read Mark Fisher.

why is this garbage still up

Because Holla Forums chads are under attack.

This is such utter horseshit, most people who suffer from genuine depression couldn't even give you a reason why they're depressed.

But of course retarded brainlets look for any opportunity to create their shitty simplistic world of HURR EVERYONE WHO WAS EVER DEPRESSED IS LE ALIENATED WORKER ARCHETYPE OH HOW CONVENIENT I HAVE ANOTHER REASON TO CRITICIZE GABBIDALISM

This shit is straight up there with right-wingers claiming depression is just "made up".

That's right, the chemical in your brain just magically change for no reason at all and that's a very reasonable position to mantain, if anything because we have to fall under peer pressure from "right wingers". Now go buy SSRIs.

i don't think anyone denies that drugs are useful for treating depression but more that the solution is not either radical drug therapy or lifestyle changes but moderate amounts of both. im sure someone with more theory can tie it back in better than i can but the solution proposed isn't just hurr durr gommunism

anyways sage this shit

Yeah, actually, they do.
Why don't you explain why depression has a distinct pattern of coming and going in phases, I guess people just stop feeling LE ALIENATION MEME suddenly until they suddenly feel it again (and this pattern just happens to apply to all of them), and they are magically so fucking oblivious to their own feelings that daddy Lenin himself has to explain to them the cause.

But what else should you expect from a board that recommends reading Lacan as a "cure", or just staying depressed because dude medication is porky lmao

Dumb fucking brainlet, go choke on a cigar

trust me, i've seen quite a lot of retards on this board say antidepressants are 100% useless or that they even make your condition worse (seriously)

i've seen posts like this too, sadly for my mental sanity

But user, I never said that social conditions can't cause depression. In fact, the more I read about it, the more I think it's largely socially cused. Yet it doesn't change the fact that you, as an entity, is chemistry, and thus even your mood can be tweaked, regardless of its causation. Sure, we should strive for an actually sane society that doesn't cause a depression epidemic in the first place, but in the mean time, I'll take what I can get to keep suicidal ideation at bay.

antidepressants are just one form of drug therapy. plenty of other substances can bring on the same effects.

like psychedelics and mdma which are being used right now in trials to treat ptsd and depression, also CBD's and other cannbinoids (though probably not THC). There's also just exercise, financial independence, regular sun exposure, good home life, having friends, the economy and world being stable, having lots of things in your immediate community to do etc. The person who posted previously is speaking in rather broadstrokes, I think there's a big debate about where consciousness really comes from, what its relationship with chemical reactions in the brain are and how they respond to medication. There's much to be learned and a lot of undefined variables, so other options should always be explored to help alleviate mental suffering.

Getting laid is 90% looks unless you have money. Anyone who disagrees is either out of touch with reality, or in damage control trying to give themselves false hope.

this is key, you can get tons of pussy if you have social standing and money but are average or ugly looking

But they will fuck a better looking guy behind your back.

Doesn't matter had sex

People ITT are just retarded and looking for excuses tbh. You can get away with just having some fashion sense, which people identify with wealth.

Is this what you tell yourself as an excuse for not getting laid?

Yeah, but the types of guys who use social status and money to get pussy are the type of guys who cheat on their wives and gf's so they don't care nearly as much as most normal men might.

Its not enough

For you. I've fucked over 20 people, hardly ever have any cash, and dress like a scumbag.

No they're not. Look at them. When someone on an image board talks about their sex life automatically assume they're lying. The fact that most of these people believe that personality has anything to do with getting laid should be setting off major alarm bells. The users of this board try and act like they have fulfilling sex lives in order to make themselves more credible by making their opponent out to be losers, but the posters here are probably on par with /r9k/.

congrats
are you handsome? are these "people" good looking? are they "clean"? are you doing drugs with them when this happens?

These factors all matter, and all mitigate the likelihood that you are plugged into a highway for sex, like being in a frat or a US senator or being on a D1 football team.

Hygiena Duševního Života, edice malá moderní encyklopedie, rok vydání 1961.

Hygiene of the mental life.

Solution is either some resocialization program, where a person has no choice but to learn social skills and how to create and maintain social relationships.

Hey, ugly or fat chicks need some love too. And when she caresses your face with her hand, maybe you would prefer to keep being intimate with her as opposed to holding a grudge against people who did you no wrong, except by succeeding at something trivial to them that obviously causes you a great difficutly.

We are reducible, but to use that on complex phenomena such as human mind would get you called a mechanicist.

What if depression is just a general patter in the activity of the brain, characterized by low excitation. Tons of stuff can cause that, from chemical causes to the way neurons are wired and then pruned.

Why would there be a neural circuit with large latency and low amplification is then a question.

You as entity are chemisty, but the motion of your matter is so complex it cannot be simply boiled down to a small set of chemicals.

The number of feedback loops is high. Of course many times the low excitation and amplification of neural circuits is caused by deficiency in one chemical.

But as you said with the social epidemic, odds are the neural circuits themselves might be created and then pruned and what is left is a depressive circuit in brain.

As for your suicidal ideation, have you tried understanding why you idealize and idolize suicide? Did it help you in managing it? It certainly helped me. But if yours is severe that it requires psychiatric intervention, of course, let the chemicals help you.

Nope. I fucked an old rich dude's gold digger wife .

this is the dream, fucking doctors and stock brokers and investment class magnates trophy wives while they're on business trips.

still no proof any of those guys post or mod leftypol, especially the BO. the only one I recognize is the 2nd guy from Youtube.

faces of Holla Forums thread.

Forgot this

i asked for proof. what is that supposed to be?

especially since everytime that spammer posts the alleged BO he never shows any actual evidence.

Thanks, I hear if you get to 30 they send you a bronze plaque and a certificate.
Yeah I guess, I definitely have good bone structure and it's been commented on by models.
They were definitely people, and I would say they're good looking. I've never been attracted to what everyone calls a roastie though, a girl can look good chubby, flat chested, scruffy, etc. Long blonde hair, leggy, fake tan and eyelashes, the idea of what every 13 year old boy rants about being good looking doesn't particularly interest me.
I caught clap off one of the fuggos that slipped past quality control, but that was just the one time.
Sometimes, sometimes I'm the one on drugs. There was one who was on drugs and I was too drunk to say her name and we were unable to properly communicate but she was clearly into me so I just asked her if she wanted to fuck and it happened.
Being in your twenties is this.
Never been on a sports team or lived in dorms. Smoking is a great way to talk to strangers in places indoor smoking is banned, which is good because I don't strike up conversations with strangers often even though I'm okay at doing it. If you've got a friend that loves doing this, invite them out more. If you don't, buy a pack of menthols before you go for a night drinking.
If you have a good sense of humour you will get laid while out drinking. It is fucking impossible to be funny in a place full of drunk people repeatedly and never get laid.

this
fucking imageboards were a mistake, the whole thread is like concentrated autism

dubs?

Lol.

Pretty much look like average people you'd see anywhere. Your standards must be pretty high.

Well that's the thing, these are chemical phenomena too. We are nothing but physical particles, after all. It may be a pattern too complex for us to model now, for example, but it's a pattern dictated by physical laws all the same.

As far as I can ascertain, my depression stems from emotional neglect, even though I had very loving parents. Depression, in turn, makes me have no self-steem and incapable of seeing life as woth living by itself, thus I need a cause. And the only cause I believe in is leftism, and there isn't much I can do to actually help short of going to Rojava, which I'm in no shape to do, so if I can't serve a cause, why keep on suffering for no reason? So goes my armchair psychology, anyway.

Come on man, anyone who can read between the lines knows that these threads about women and getting laid are irresistible magnets for Holla Forumsyps. Don't fall for their CONINTELPRO.

Why can't you fuckers just answer "yes you'll get laid in socialism" and spare yourself the trouble while gaining a potential comrade.

Try to empathize with people, if robots are reckless enough to shoot up sorrorities maybe that anger can be redirected to shooting up Wall Street?

the anti-incel/virgin/loner ideology won't permit its holders to empathise with them. they're not people in their eyes

I mean, they aren't.

case in point

if this so-called socialist hates and rejects loners, where do you think those loners will turn to? hint: not the left

It's not even /just/ about getting laid.
It's about being in a loving relationship. It's about the kind if intimacy you can only have with a person you feel that certain kind of love for. I hate the word love, it means too much and so it means nothing, and it's hard to describe what you mean when you're talking about any of the feelings "love" encompasses. When I start being able to feel my soul occasionally I remember this.

Yeah I'm sure the right will be fearsome with an army of loner neckbeard autists. It will really build their image.

just admit that like the capitalist who hates those economically poorer than he, you hate those socially poorer than you. they can't compete in your world, so they're worthless

have the balls to admit that you hate "beta males" and don't care what happens to them

I think the question is, would a socialist state be better if all the mentally ill killed themselves?
Would that be the best thing they could do to ensure the happiness of others?

Sexual freedom probably means that ugly spergs will probably be bred out of existence and good riddance as far as I'm concerned. Should have happened centuries ago.

I'm an ugly sperg myself

Only of the MTF kind. So, if you're into that, good luck to you.

Basing your politics on your own sexual frustrations is idiotic and cancer. We shouldn't want such people in our movement.

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why wait for them to do themselves? go full aktion t4 and get your hands dirty. that's what beta-haters want after all

I want to know why people like us even still exist in the first place.
How do genes that create us still exist if they're so counter productive to reproducing?
Or is it not genetic?

And I'm deeply sorry that you aren't able to experience that. But I don't think that really anything beyond reconnecting people to community is needed so that almost everyone will be able to experience. "Love" I have noticed comes from familiarity more than any superficial aspect of a person. Without insane capitalist standards and commodification of sex, I don't see why robots would still be kept from human relationships in a better organized society.

It's in everyone's interest for each and every person to be in a stable and healthy relationships. I doubt socialism would work very well with a bunch of Elliott Rodgers running around

Then again I'm a dumb "roastie" so what the hell do I know?

That's exactly what you're doing.

You don't care about the liberation of the working class, you just want whatever ideology will allow you to most efficiently vent your sexual frustrations.

What is the point of economic liberation if happiness isn't even possible?

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It's genetic.

Spergs got in the cracks of the old society when marriage with children was a culturally enforced norm.

Unfortunately, when liberal capitalism got rid of that, it took the whole associated support structure with it, leaving the only venue for a spergs being to make lots of money and fuck some gold digger. Now that's collapsing and we'll probably see the end of the spergs.

You know you can just jerk off, right?

Tell me what I'm getting wrong.

It's not about just sex.
But I suppose what you could have said is that you could just get a dog or become friends with other people that will never find love. Or waifu bots.

you are either clueless or wilfully ignorant

how is illuminating the issue of social isolation, rejection and alienation among young males "not caring about the liberation of the working class"? this is your strawman

Or just dick around on your computer.

That's what most of us are going to do anyway.

I just want revenge and maybe a shot at a better life.

Most reasonable post itt. You'll get a gf in socialism OK?

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It would be interesting if threads like these were talking about the economics and political structures behind it, but no. Its always just robotposting.

the view of those in this thread is that there are no economic or political structures behind it. their view is "beta males" are just defective failures unable to compete in the social and sexual marketplace

And you have a counter-argument to this?

why should i make a counter-argument to something so blatantly false and stupid? not to mention inconsistent with the so-called "materialism" of the marxists of this board

funny how when it comes to matters of sex and relationships, all these 'socialists' suddenly turn into vulgar meritocrats

I'm interested in how you think sex relates to the mode of production.

tbh it's for the best

There's some genetics, but a lot of it is capitalism fucking you guys up. There's no time for self-improvement and it's more profitable to milk your self-hatred. Under socialism there will still be ugly dudes, and born to attractive parents in some cases, but you'll probably be less spergy.

t. good looking sperg

I don't believe muh beta male theory for a minute. There are plenty of unnattractive guys who have fucked a fair bit. Ability to socialize and just spending time with them >>>>>>> everything else

Socially stunted people can be helped, even if they can't, that's irrelevant to genetics and we can raise the next generation properly

The fact that you think NEETs of all people remain autistic because they don't have "time" for self-improvement really underlines how absolutely clueless you guys are about this issue, and why everyone calls you Chad Thundercock.

I mean, I actually agree that you can't do anything about this "issue" because literally the only solution to everyone getting pussy is basically putting women into slavery - But stop with the gay-ass patronizing normalfag advice where you try to manipulate spergs into blaming capitalism for your own advantage.

because in a society centred on the accumulation of wealth, a person's value is determined by their wealth. more wealth = higher value

let's say you have 2 men in the middle class: man 1 is decent and virtuous but without much wealth, while man 2 is indecent and unvirtuous but has significant wealth. in the aforementioned society, which of those two men is likely to be chosen as a partner by women?

"beta" isn't simply concerned with physical attractiveness. you don't get it

By which women?

Yes, money get's you bitches, but since there's always someone richer than you, they will drop you when the opportunity arises.

Luckily most women aren't like that.

There is LITERALLY nothing wrong with meritocracy. In fact it's something that should be aspired to. Capitalism is NOT meritocratic.

Ugly, abnormal people can get laid by women because of money when they would never be touched by anyone in a communist society. In a communist society being appealing to women will be the only factor for getting women, as it should be. Yeah, plenty people will be left out, that's what happens in a free society. Requesting otherwise is like wishing for daddy state to force people into buying your artworks when you're a shitty artist.

any women
yeah, and that's a bad thing, since it prioritises wealth over humanity
if you say so

you're assuming that women under communism would have the same value system as had under capitalism. one of the goals and prerequisites of communism is to bring about a change in consciousness and overturning of capitalism's warped values. humans will not be valued according to their capacity to generate or accumulate money

That's what I said you dumb brainlet.
If you honestly believe physical attractiveness, charisma and the ability to socialize well are "warped values" then do tell me WHAT "humans" will be valued according to in your little world.

Daily reminder that Marx was aware of this. There can be no true equality and the genuine acceptance of natural differences without having something to blame them on, is what frees us from envy and allows actual communism.

i just explained that those things aren't what attract women to men. a physically attractive, charismatic, sociable man will always be discarded in favour of the man with more wealth and more power

a homeless man who looks like a model is not going to be more attractive to women than a rich ugly man

What will happen to my share portfolio under communism?

We will have non consensual sex with it

But why the fuck would robots accept it? What's to stop them from going full Elliott Rodger?

IN
A
FUCKING
COMMUNIST SOCIETY
NOT A CAPITALIST ONE

DUMB FUCKING BRAINLET WITH NO READING COMPREHENSION

you're retarded

You're literally unable to follow a simple fucking point despite multiple posts explaining the same thing, I've never seen such a brainlet before, it's unbelievable.

They probably wouldn't, but people actually born under communism might. The idea is to stop having people lashing out because they are mad at unfairness that comes with reality.

The lashing out of Elliot-types underlie a belief that they "deserve" to get laid, from that anything else springs, like the idea women should be punished for it. So the first step is to get people to stop thinking they deserve something they can't attain by themselves.

meritocracy is bullshit and you are delusional for even entertaining it

this

you don't deserve anything, nothing is free, you will always have to prove yourself. wage labor is a false hologram of this process.

shill

hello capitalist

you just don't understand. you're still spooked. you haven't flipped the script, you've just bought into the muh free shit meme

>you don't deserve to eat! [throws unsold produce into landfill]
>you don't deserve medicine! [lets you die in the gutter]
>you don't deserve shelter! [lets homeless freeze to death]
you are a grain hoarder. kill yourself traitor

Hello tankie.

capitalism and the degeneratë value system it encourages and fosters keeps me and others from attaining those things

Robots should all become facist. Under facism I can garuntee you a wife. Leave the left, they don't give a shit about you and they never will

you don't deserve anything but i will gladly give you my time. thats what im doing right now. im engaging with you because i want you to understand, investing my labor into you to so you can grow. because that is beneficial to society which is beneficial to me.

or we could just become communists and start treating each other like human beings instead of disposable consumer products

this

none of you really want a 'girlfriend' you want someone who accepts your naked truth and youve been sold this idea that the way to find this relationship is through slavery

it's not

yes
no

you are trying to buy a soul with currency that only buys bodies my friend

would any friend be alright for you? or do you think you can only hug a lover?

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i don't want friends. i can't love friends or share myself with 'buddies.' that is obnoxious millennial "polyamorous" nonsense used to justify self-righteous hyperpromiscuity and vulgar hedonism

i think you can, you've just been taught that your condition is incurable. you are very alienated from your peers despite commonalities that would allow you to relate naturally. you enjoy getting feedback, having your ideas challenged and pushed against, natural things achieved through healthy socialization. because you don't socialize in a healthy way, you don't have healthy thoughts. in this case the physical gives rise to the mental, and the mental to the physical.

it's not incurable. it's just unlikely to change under the current societal circumstances and dynamic

i am the square peg. i will not change myself to fit the round hole

that's fine, not everyone can perform to the same standards. some people are simply better than others at some things. but i think that everyone has something they are good at, like i know you probably have some mastery in something, even if it seems meaningless - like being the best player in a game. i think everyone has that capability, you know, mastery over a skill. what are you a master at?

i don't know yet

thats okay my friend. it may take many experiences before you find one that you enjoy. thats the beauty of life, is the ability to adapt and change. i believe you can change and grow into a person worthy of being loved and respected.

i'm already worthy. but my idea of worthy isn't the same as general society's

i want you to take deep breaths until you feel full. then i want you to exhale completely until the air leaves your lungs. try to remember to do this
that's a good way to put it. but do you see the clash? your idea of worthy vs the societal expectation? what do you think are the forces at work?

capitalism and the gullibility/weakmindedness of the mob

what do you mean by gullibility? what do you consider to be a weak mind?

letting self-interested external forces influence one's thoughts and values

how do you feel right now, physically? what do you consider to be self interest?

aw fuck i bumped by mistake. oh well

physically fine, just tired and bitter. self-interest meaning personal gain at the expense of others

what is making you tired? can you give me an example of 'personal gain at the expense of others', in your words?

What a naive idiot you are. Keep repeating liberal platitudes, but it's nothing robots haven't heard before. Just admit robots will never accept free sexual choice since since its result will always be that they are left out.

Ignoring people's social needs is a result of vulgar Marxist materialism and robots are right to reject it

existence
there is a forest. animals and people benefit from and appreciate it. capitalist sees forest, cuts it down to make wood that he sells. capitalist gets rich, forest is destroyed, animals and people suffer

treating others with humanity is the opposite of ignoring their social needs

Fascism is truly the ideology of the untermensch.

my friend would you like to talk in an instant messenger

no thanks

i understand. but i am going to sleep so i cannot talk to you any more for the moment. may we find eachother again

byebye

You have low standards. They're ugly. First guy looks soft and simple. 2nd kid look like he has FAS. 3rd guy defiantly isn't normal. Facial features like that are indicator traits of low I Q.

You must be single digit Autism Level then.

took three tests in high school averaged 152. Those dudes are just ugly. They couldn't get laid for free unless they fucked midgets, or deformed women.

Which is good. I just wanted you to read Mark Fisher because I genuinely think you'd be interested. Dunno why the other guy was spazzing tho.

The Cold War never ended prole

Where are the proofs, Billy?

What about putting them all to work on genetic engineering, so that eventually everyone can be born perfectly?
It at least gives them hope.

Oh his k-punk thing is among the hundreds of tabs I set aside to read later. My reading list is absolutely preposterous thesedays, especially with the cybernetics thread now.

Also I see he an heroed earlier this year. F