Can't tell if a joke about anime logic or the reality of the classcucked Japanese society

Can't tell if a joke about anime logic or the reality of the classcucked Japanese society.

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People in japan literally work themselves to death.

You could say turning into a working adult in Japan is a… death flag.

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How come this country became so classcucked as it is today when it even had strikes in the past? I know the obvious answer is false consciousness and shit, but what processes lead to this?

Both westernization caused by US and their own government.

But you don't see such advanced levels of classcuckoldry even in the US by the majority of the population, right?

conformity culture

That's not true, Japan has always been a hierarchal society, westernization only modernized their class system

I know Japan was pretty fucking radical many decades ago but I too have no idea how it got to this state.
Eh, at least the JCP is still very big.

On the surface level, things appeared to be working for a long time. Japan experienced tremendous GDP growth between the end of WW2 and 1990. Even now, there's still plenty of accumulated social capital to at least create the appearance of functioning capitalism.

Were one to look deeper though I'd suspect you'd find the same sort of processes that happened in the US happened in Japan, meaning, intense scrutiny and disruption from governmental and judicial forces. Radicals get sent to jail or otherwise discredited, if not murdered outright. Bourgeois propaganda does alot of the leg work. Couple that with a bourgeois government actively working to thwart any sort of leftist reforms and you create the image of a neutered, ineffective Left.

Why Japanese youth don't seem to be looking for alternatives to capitalism is beyond me. They've experienced intense stagnation for decades and even now their economy is only barely chugging along. Maybe their social programs defuse the situation somewhat, but I can't even begin to speculate on that. They're drifting towards disaster just like everyone else though, so I guess we'll see.

I swear that the Japanese haven't mentally progressed from their nationalistic feudal age. They are like peasants and lords in a capitalist country. Hierarchy is a major part of their life from start to finish. They see themselves are part of something bigger, instead of considering themselves as individuals. Failure is entirely your own fault. The immense pressure from not only society but also from family, causes many young people to fall into depression. There are some Japanese shows which deal with this aspect. But the real proof of their country being shit is the absurd amount of wish fulfillment. They have to imagine another world to escape their horrible lives. No matter how shit other first world countries can be, you should never wish to live in Japan.

speak for yourself

Almost everything you described is actually an effect of westernization and neoliberalism.

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this is what weebs actually believe

Who are you quoting? Who said that?

JCP is shit they were literally created to absorb genuine radicalism and to water it down.

i think they actually read marx if all those articles about modern communists in japan are true

Tell me about the good things or proof me wrong instead. A couple of girls isn't going to convince me.

My point was never that they were at fault for this. They were plunged into it without being able to adapt properly on a social basis. This isn't surprising. The conception of capitalism in the west was closely linked to civil rights movements. We are selfish and materialists. Capitalists and socialists alike. Even idpol and lifestylism is based on materialistic views. Japan was different. Spiritualism was still going strong compared to the fading faith of the west. Honor and hierarchy were the important tenets of social life. Brutal fighters with disregard for their own safety and willing to accept any fault as their own. Buddhism only helped to cement this. Especially when Zen-Buddhism formed. Capitalism in itself as a very violent system. It naturally creates division and hierarchy. This violence leads to movements resisting against this. Japan was on the other hand made for capitalism. A people almost totally willing to submit themselves. First in the form of the empire, willing to slaughter any nation they could reach, suing capitalist imperialism as their engine. And later as totally embracing of neoliberal consequences implemented by the Americans.

This is going to be very facile but I believe the major elements of the precapitalist superstructure are still maintained as the accepted sociocultural values. I am currently reading The German Ideology and Marx briefly touches on the superstructure as the values that the ruling class determines to be the best for their own aims, and it's fairly passable that they have maintained a similar superstructure for a long time.

Same reason as everywhere in the world.

Socialism has been passed into the suconcious as "North Korea", escapism is too damn high, society doesn't promote thinking and politics has lost its conection with the youth, cause it's done by people that don't even know how to YT.

It's the Spectacle

Read Debored

Most of the girls on that pic aren't that attractive.

Very important response.

Reminder the right-wing government(s) banned "political content" from the press.

Thanks

Sanae Takaichi warns that government can shut down broadcasters it feels are biased
japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/02/09/national/politics-diplomacy/minister-warns-that-government-can-shut-down-broadcasters-it-feels-are-biased/

Liberal please leave.

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Do you know what the word 'implications' means? Point is, Japan was shit before westernization. This shit about 'muh based minority culture' needs to stop now. Reactionary beliefs are the same, be they from whites or non-whites. Stop buying into idpol.

DIdn't you know that the japanese are honary whites?

more like strawmanning and schizoid delusions lmao

Take your fucking meds you fucking autist, that post isn't saying any of the shit you're seeing.

Bring back old japanese commies.

Someone asked "why japanese etc", the other person said "because america and the jap government", and then you decide to throw a tantrum out of nowhere for no reason

Gas all greentexters ``kudasai" (>>1629302 too)


RIP radical Nippon

Hoochie, is that you?

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Allow me to walk you through this.

The natural conclusion that can be drawn from this is that user was saying westernization caused class-cuckoldry in Japan. This is false, as reactionary Japan prior to westernization was just as shit as it is today. The only difference is the technology and scale. The only reason somebody would think otherwise is because they're a weeb or they're buying into idpol, or both.

its cool that you completely ignored how the same post is also saying the japanese government played a part too you schizophrenic greentexter

thanks """""imageboard culture""""" for breeding a bunch of braindead morons who need to strawman other posts with meme arrows and pull """natural conclusions""" out of their asses

The implication here is that Japan was not class-cucked before the US along with their own government carried out westernization.

ah yes, another implication and again nothing solid

maybe the other dude shouldve enumerated the, uh, two reasons instead of separating them with an "and" so you wouldnt have sperged out about """idpol""" and other things that never happened

"Both westernization caused by US and their own government." isn't the same as "Westernization caused by both US and their own government."
Maybe next time you decided to autistically screech about implications (hahaha) you learn a bit more English, dude.

I fail to see how raising a valid point due to a poster not being clear with their words (I'm not the only one that thought this when I read the post by the way) is considered "autistic screeching." Perhaps if some of you people were actually deliberate with your words instead of being a bunch of lazy motherfuckers then people could actually understand what the fuck you're trying to say.

It's cute seeing you try to shift the blame onto others when all you did was meme and then throw a bitchfit about "idpol".

Why the quotation marks?

maybe you shouldnt try to see what isnt there and draw your own conclusions because you kinda suck at it, just saying

Fuck I'm trying to type a response and I keep getting replies.
I used quotation marks because it isn't what happened here. The worst part is that the dumb Angry Cat poster is technically right but what he said didn't have anything to do with nothing anyone said in this thread.

To be fair, I though the same thing at first when I read that post. Seems like it was just a misunderstanding, but he is right. Even if it was addressing the wrong person, it still raised a valid point.

Just don't see why everyone is so pissed at eachother.

This isn't really an answer to your exact question but I just wanted to say the radical leftist movements in Japan were pretty much killed by themselves (a true classic in leftism) thanks to dumb tankies.

>The leaders of the United Red Army encouraged their fighters to examine their weaknesses in criticism and self-criticism, and these sessions turned into lynchings. The group purged itself one by one of members deemed not sufficiently revolutionary.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Red_Army

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asama-Sansō_incident

EXTREME LARPING

The ultimate sectarians.

You aren't kidding.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Left_in_Japan

Does Japan have no chill? They seem to go to the extreme in whatever they do.

I bet they only read Stalin instead of Marx

no wonder murderous "self-criticism" seemed like a good idea

holy shit their real strategy is even better

Bro, the Japanese leftists were fucking hardcore. Wish the left here was half as radicalized as they were.

The legacy of Confuscianism on the entire Asian-Pacific region is an absolute fucking cancer on individualism and free thinking.

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Look at America. Realize it once had what is probably the closest thing to a leftcom revolution in all of history, all the way back in 1877. Now look at it today.

From what I can tell Mautism was much more popular on the Japanese Left. The "they-didn't-read-Marx" angle is prolly bs since the nips had more Marxists economists then any country outside the East bloc–can't say how many of those were actually good but they have attracted some devoted Western followers.

Doesn't their collectivism also help leftist thinking?

I wish I died when I turned 30.

I'm not sure "chill" is even a concept in the Japanese cultural lexicon. The essence of yamato damashii puts a lot of weight on extreme dedication to whatever it is one does. That's why you have otaku that have filled every square cm of their tiny apartments with anime merchandise. It's capitalist consumerism meets traditional zeal.

May 1 was day of Mayday worker Please confirm the situation of each country France (Paris) Italy (Turin) USA (Portland) Japan (Niigata)

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Guess which one is Japan's…

It's mostly due to Japan's "Communists" being SocDem. The most they aspire to is getting 8-hour workday.

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Kemono Friends confirmed for communist psyop.

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;-;

Spooks not even once.

Man what happend to the Japanese labour movement?

At least they're trying to make communism kawaii.

You'll never see radicalized otaku fighting cops with Kemono Friends plastic masks

No it does user was exaggerating

I've never heard of a salaryman working an 8-hour day. They are expected to work all kinds of mandatory overtime, generally without any pay, in order to "be a team player" as we might say. It's horribly abusive.

This. Anyone who were able to find it?

youtube.com/watch?v=wZAgWC9G8WY

youtube.com/watch?v=saMIqpPD4f8
Its actually Warszawianka, which is where the music is originally from.