Holla Forums's Thoughts on Hippies?

Honest inquiry here.

How do you think hippies have historically affected the leftist cause?

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Bunch of first world kiddies who were mostly about "free love" and who only were against imperialism when it directly affected them in a negative way.

TO THE GULAG

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Their communalist beliefs and counterculture were the best things about these otherwise liberal idealists.

Pretty cool aside from their pacifism.

7/10 would have taken LSD with

DISGUSTING!
they deserve the gulag just as much as the kulaks!

Any documents detailing this? Sucks if true.

Holla Forums needs to take 200 mics of LSD and stop with the tankie shit.


It's wild conjecture and he's crazy.

They were fine until they grew up. I seriously hope no one here does this.

The economy is far too shitty for that to happen. Boomers only "grew up" because once they finally graduated from a state school with their easy humanities degrees they were able to make $60k/year as a middle manager with some imperialist firm somewhere. That just isn't a thing anymore in western countries.

The NEETs of times past.

Later became Yuppies.
Enabled Reagen, Thatcher, Kohl, Disco and made the 80ies the most conservative decade of the last century.
"Hip to be square" indeed. It's what the aut-right actually tries to accomplish.

OP here.

Got a good mix of responses going so far, some quite thoughtful and interesting, and some I'd expect from certain people around here… *cough*NazBols*cough* … But now that leads me to ask something in extension of this topic. Something related to its growth at its core…

… Thoughts on John Lennon?
Is Lennon as based as Lenin?

That's a good thing

Diversionary pseudo-leftism of the worst sort. They mistook their idea of socialism, cavalierly interpreted, for socialist thought itself, and when the former came to fail them, they blamed it on and rejected the latter, becoming disoriented and bitter.
You see it too today among the pragmatists. They feel there are problems with capitalism, but that the most practical way to address them, even if they're nominally "revolutionary," is by sidestepping revolution and working within the system towards tangible goals on the road towards eventual transformation of society. Every time, in every case, the acceptance of status quo thinking and the bourgeois mechanisms has not proved to be practical, but rather a poison pill for their goals. In the end they can't concede that their methods were neutered from the start, but rather still contend that they are the most practical form of socialism, and that therefore all socialism is equally or less practical, and therefore useless. It's a means of rejecting the broader world as wrong, either all revolutionary thought or the world itself as "mismatched to" or "unready for" the hypotheses of socialism, in place of rejecting one's own thoughts and ego as wrong.
This is essentially why so many bitter, jaded, status quo liberals have come out of the "radical" student movements of the 60's and 70's. One might very well remark that pragmatism is "good in theory but can't work in practice"


As with racism among other things, you can't ever really be "against imperialism" without opposing capitalism, and all opposition to capitalism is implicitly "anti-imperialist."
These nazbol buzzwords are essentially nonsensical.

No it's not.
Look where we are now. They accomplished NOTHING.
They just sat in their circle jerks fucking around, getting drunk and high, and consuming vinylic media.

I wouldn't say anything, if they at least TRIED. But they did literally nothing. They had the fucking numbers but all they did is squat.

Being against imperialist wars is "anti-imperialist." However being a hippy was not the same thing as being anti-capitalist and yet they were against the war. Learn logic.

Boomers aren't hippies. Hippies are the children of boomers. They were in their late 20s in 1967 and had kids and stuff.

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Wrong.

Boomers are the result of the post-war "baby boom" which ended in the mid-fifties.

Lol, I know way more about 1960s American counterculture than you guys. Don't argue with me.


Actually, that generation would be called, "fuck you, generations don't exist, kill yourself for splitting people up based on the year they were born".

Some of them actually went and formed communes and that angers me because it makes it more apparent that I don't do anything other than bitch on the internet.

Bitching on the internet > Lifestylist bullshit

Can you please elaborate and justify my existence.

Did you read any of my post besides the part that linked you?
Stupid dumb nazbol scum


Communes and "opting out" of capitalism don't solve capitalist contradictions and don't liberate anyone. A proof-of-concept, "we can do a certain minimum of socially necessary labor without industry or the means of production if we break our backs and work less efficiently and even harder, but it's okay, because we're 'free' from 'the system' " is useless for the radical transformation of society, because if anything it presupposes operation within a capitalist mode of production and places the onus on individuals to carve out some superficial "liberation" within and adapted to this state of affairs. It's not so far off from the "personal responsibility" rhetoric of today, to be quite honest.
Not only is "acting as though we had socialism already" useless under capitalism, but your ability to do so is in the first place itself regulated by capitalism.

You have made me feel a lot more comfortable with spending my time role playing here. Thank you.

At least you're not unrealistic, with high expectations to be easily shot down by harsh truths. Want to do something useful? In the cybernetics thread, we're working on an in-kind calculator. I've thought of something else we'll need, though: industry standards must be set, socialism or capitalism.

My idea is to create a program in which users input their product (name and specifications) and it is then matched up with compatible components. This can either be done manually or automatically (if a nut is compatible with a bolt from one company and that one company's bolt is made to the same rough specifications as the bolt of another company). Eventually, this could get pretty complicated. There are lots of little things not mentioned here, but it needs to be done.

Will you learn CS and math to do this glorious work of the revolution, comrade?

NEETs contribute to the decay of capitalism, being a wage slave and contributing to "society" just upholds the capitalist system

this might be the stupidest thing i've ever read on this board. Are you serious?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippie
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomers

some basic googling proves you wrong, are you some Holla Forums shill or somethign for fucks sake?