Why do poor africans live in trash when peasants in europe looked decent?

Why do poor africans live in trash when peasants in europe looked decent?

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Trash is a byproduct of industrialization. Peasants were usually more concerned with getting enough material goods to sustain themselves. Africans workers often have the opposite problem in areas where they are not being actively terrorized by American/European backed paramilitary groups.

Because depictions of peasants don't match reality very closely

something something niggers

Post-colonial economies lack diversity thus the opportunity for social mobility.

all that sheet metal lying around really triggers my autism. I just want to go and dismantle all that shit and make a big building out of it

European peasants lived knee-deep in dirt and animal shit, what are you on about

lol

Do you even have a job?

What I'm talking about is despite the level of poverty they managed to dress decently while africans live in trash

Relative poverty is worse than 300 years ago due to abundance of cheap goods.

the invention of synthetic polymers and plastics

that is literally the only reason

19th century Europe was probably less hygenic than slums today

wtf i'm a racist now
because that second definetily not an ultra-idealised version of reality

second pic*

european peasants lived in trash

wtf I'm a reactionary now

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t. Autism Level 89 retard

You're kidding yourself if you think that Europeans (or Americans, for that matter) weren't on the average poor as fuck and living in conditions not too dissimilar from the developing world.
Did you read any of Dickens' work? Any history from the period, dealing the squalid conditions of the urban poor?

You mean like that time half of everybody in Europe died because of disease carried by rats and fleas? Reality is far different than the paintings and tapestries. It's likely that European peasant villages in the Middle Ages were just as filthy. You had people just dumping human waste out their windows into the streets until the 19th century ffs.

Your looking at capitalist improvement and progress right there according to capitalist economists living in that hovel surrounded by pollution is better then living as a European peasant or in a precolonial African tribe in this case.

FYI, even by the limited standards of capitalist accounting of "poverty" many Africans are no better off monetarily then West European peasants centuries ago.

No joke, medieval England is wealthier per capita ($1000-1,300) then the modern DRC (between 400-700 considered to be below subsistence)

African capitalism hasn't had the same results bc of the effects of colonialism and neo-colonialism, even non-Western imperialist powers like China, Russia, Japan etc drink from the African trough.

When you consider illicit capital outflow Africa is actually a net-creditor to the world, of course you can blame this on corrupt officials but corruption is exactly the way the imperialist powers wanted the post-colonial situation in africa to be. The Cold War was all about making sure there would always be an adequate supply of desperate to offset demands for higher wages in the global North and counteract the fall in profit there.

We should reject racism, the poverty the world capitalists keep the African masses mired in is designed to keep us Western workers enslaved as well!

M E R C A N T I L I S M

Leftists will say that its because of muh poverty, and then tell you that peasants were exactly the same, despite historical writings and life like paintings painting an alternative picture.

The truth is, European peasants were white, and Africans are black. Its just in a white man's way to want to create and prosper. Its why Europe has been the hotbed of civilized thought for several thousand years running.

Blah blah blah leftists go on saying, "race doesn't exist!" but they can only give one provably false response when you point toward the obvious fact that Africans have never once been a civilized people.

*of desperate workers

Buddy, I think the term Social Mobility implies you can go up as well as down.

Not making an argument…
But anybody else think these look kind of cozy?

Really made me think.

t.Brainlet

That's a beautiful Chinese city

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Holla Forums geography

wew

t. has never read a book about Ethiopian Christendom

What are you even trying to say, at least the two photos are contemporary and not some painting done by some rich-ass 17th century artist trying to idealize or sanitize.

He was just showing the absurdity of trying to prove a point with two cherrypicked photos in order to support your point of view. Feel free to make an argument at any time.

>user: you are a faggot i don't think that anybody is suprised by that fact at this point

Remember - even well-ish off commoners back then threw shit out of their windows because there was no plumbing - there was just as much waste/lack of hygiene relative to what we have no - except of course mass-produced non-degradable products have only helped lots of trash pile up

The material wealth of the African continent was expropriated by force for centuries.

I remembered reading about how they managed it in ancient Pompey, with a jutting set of pavement stones that allowed one to traverse the river of shit and filth that ran down the street during the day.

the OP post was a picture of the poor in medieval Europe vs the poor in africa today

this is just cherry picked pictures of the best of africa and the worst of europe

True - but it's worth remembering medieval Europe was - on average - a much worse place to live than in the Roman territories during either the Republic or Empire. I mean - I'm sure life was still pretty shit for your average plebe then - but overall level of tech/standard of living seems higher than the villages of Western Europe in the "Dark Ages"

They are both cherry picked that's the point

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Just kill yourself.

Why do poor Irishmen live in trash when peasants in Kent looked decent?

Seems like they should have built weapons

Who are you quoting?

Because the first one is a photo and the other is a painting.
Pic related, dutch farmers in 1926

And let's not even get started on Eastern Europe

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Peasants didn't live under a mode of production which produces commodities just for the sake of production.

There is an abundance of trash being produced in third world countries just for the profits of a few, European peasants didn't face this.

Same reason the homeless in the US live in piles of fucking trash.
And the homeless in the EU live in piles of fucking trash.

Because trash was biodegradable back then - animals ate it and it turned into dirt and shit. Which the peasants lived in.

Now it's not biodegradable, so it just piles up.

The retards tend to be (and fuck off back to reddit).

That'd be a burgher thing really, because if you don't live in the city it becomes much easier to put your shit somewhere that you won't step in it the next morning. The peasants would probably have some sort of latrine. So really, the less well off you were, the less likely you were to toss your shit out the window.

Don't know what you're talking about, this is a dapper looking motherfucker

Peasants in Europe didn't tend to get photographed.

People don't tend to paint romantic depictions of modern life in Africa.

Budding sapeur right there

Careful observers may foretell the hour
(By sure prognostics) when to dread a shower:
While rain depends, the pensive cat gives o’er
Her frolics, and pursues her tail no more.
Returning home at night, you’ll find the sink
Strike your offended sense with double stink.
If you be wise, then go not far to dine;
You’ll spend in coach hire more than save in wine.
A coming shower your shooting corns presage,
Old achès throb, your hollow tooth will rage.
Sauntering in coffeehouse is Dulman seen;
He damns the climate and complains of spleen.
Meanwhile the South, rising with dabbled wings,
A sable cloud athwart the welkin flings,
That swilled more liquor than it could contain,
And, like a drunkard, gives it up again.
Brisk Susan whips her linen from the rope,
While the first drizzling shower is born aslope:
Such is that sprinkling which some careless quean
Flirts on you from her mop, but not so clean:
You fly, invoke the gods; then turning, stop
To rail; she singing, still whirls on her mop.
Not yet the dust had shunned the unequal strife,
But, aided by the wind, fought still for life,
And wafted with its foe by violent gust,
’Twas doubtful which was rain and which was dust.
Ah! where must needy poet seek for aid,
When dust and rain at once his coat invade?
Sole coat, where dust cemented by the rain
Erects the nap, and leaves a mingled stain.
Now in contiguous drops the flood comes down,
Threatening with deluge this devoted town.
To shops in crowds the daggled females fly,
Pretend to cheapen goods, but nothing buy.
The Templar spruce, while every spout’s abroach,
Stays till ’tis fair, yet seems to call a coach.
The tucked-up sempstress walks with hasty strides,
While seams run down her oiled umbrella’s sides.
Here various kinds, by various fortunes led,
Commence acquaintance underneath a shed.
Triumphant Tories and desponding Whigs
Forget their feuds, and join to save their wigs.
Boxed in a chair the beau impatient sits,
While spouts run clattering o’er the roof by fits,
And ever and user with frightful din
The leather sounds; he trembles from within.
So when Troy chairmen bore the wooden steed,
Pregnant with Greeks impatient to be freed
(Those bully Greeks, who, as the moderns do,
Instead of paying chairmen, run them through),
Laocoön struck the outside with his spear,
And each imprisoned hero quaked for fear.
Now from all parts the swelling kennels flow,
And bear their trophies with them as they go:
Filth of all hues and odors seem to tell
What street they sailed from, by their sight and smell.
They, as each torrent drives with rapid force,
From Smithfield or St. Pulchre’s shape their course,
And in huge confluence joined at Snow Hill ridge,
Fall from the conduit prone to Holborn Bridge.
Sweepings from butchers’ stalls, dung, guts, and blood,
Drowned puppies, stinking sprats, all drenched in mud,
Dead cats, and turnip tops, come tumbling down the flood.

because feudalism > capitalism obviously

also

Because the Mediterranean is what separates man from animals.

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Africa begins at the pyrenees

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i really can't tell, OP, it's a complete mystery

Wow, a town founded and inhabited exclusively by the stupidly rich Dutch people who exploited the entire nation for great wealth made a functional town? No poverty you say? And, no crime from a highly educated background, wherein it seems the lack of poverty nearly cancels out the need for crime? Oh my, capitalism truly is great.

Can you name 3 black societies that are this prosperous?
No, wait, name ONE, black society that is this prosperous.
KEK

You do know they completely fucked over the White population when they took power, right? Boers are still being fucked over, they're far from being stupidly rich.

I wonder why disenfranchised black areas dont do as well as the post colonial white ones…

Also, no resources, in South Africa? Fuck off retard, it literally said it was founded by Afrikaaners post apartheid, the richest minority in the entirety of the country.

You guys really think its as simple as black and white? It's fucking idpol both sides.

How come whites are always the "richest minority" even while doing rural work in the middle of South Africa? Really weird huh?

I'm sure blacks aren't prohibited from doing efficient agriculture, wood work, educate their children and take care of their own kind. I'm sure you don't need some massive capital to start a rural farming town.

you can't be serious

People in Elizebethan England threw their shit out the window.

Yes they were are you retarded? You know what Apartheid was right?

Typical barbarians.

Here's a redpill that might make you overdose:
Most Subsaharan Africans nations never invented writing.
That's right, they had no scholars, no men of science, no engineers, no literature. Literally all alphabets linked with Blacks were invented past the 60s, I'm not making this up.

Europeans, like Africans, literally never invented writing. That's why all the indigenous writing systems of Europe use variants of Phoenician letters.

But people were writing things in Ethiopia before they were doing so in Britain.

Phoenicians were white

Weirdest thing is they don't have many concepts we do. For instance there's no equivalent to "promise" in Zulu. The word it's translated as is nowhere close, so they understand a "promise" as "maybe I'll do it if I can". Which means for them breaking a promise is not a big deal, while for us if someone promises something it's a sure thing, which of course creates huge problems since neither side understands why the other is acting mad/stupid. Time is another well-known concept they don't quite grasp.
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Whites killed almost 3 entire continent's worth of people not including Europe from diseases which they developed from living in their own filth. You really wanna take it there, my h'wite comrade?

As if the difficulty translating Dutch into Zulu justifies the wholesale murder and occupation of another people's land.

WE WUZ SEAFARERS N SHEIT!

Europeans never invented writing either. Only the Sumerians and Mayans did, everyone else just copied.

Also you're full of shit, Swahili was written with the Arabic alphabet, so was Manding.

L O L

No they didn't, you'd have to be a huge asshole to do that. They threw piss out the window, but shit was put in cess pits around town, either directly or by people who would carry big pots of shit around.

And that's literally everywhere in the world before indoor plumbing, not just Elizabethan England.

I am glad Naturalism and Realism killed it.

African peasants live in clean villages, that's an urban slum, and it looks exactly like the European and American urban slums that existed 100 years ago

Why's this fucking thread on the front page again?

For real. I thought Holla Forums was about class consciousness, not race realism…

Because we're btfoing Holla Forums

And yet…

Seychelles, Mauritius, Gabon.

But that's wrong you fucking retard

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_scientists,_inventors,_and_scholars

i like how the parts with the most shitting in public have a 50 year maoist insurgency

Read sources

Moroccan traveler Ibn Battuta

richard-hooker.com/sites/worldcultures/CIVAFRCA/SWAHILI.HTM

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Aksum en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_Empire
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mosque_of_Djenné en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasil_Ghebbi
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopia#Middle_Ages en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Saint_George,_Lalibela


stay forever BTFO

I bet my balls you would never want to live in a place with 95%+ blacks. Meanwhile, all blacks want to live in a place with 95%+ whites.

1. They're a majority black country
2. They're rising in human development
3. They're more developed than Ukraine, Macedonia, and Georgia. Or are they not white countries?

Again, Holla Forums gets BTFO and resorts to ad hom attacks.

Well they already do, NZ is 95% white. They do travel a lot because of their job though.

Two of the ones you mentioned are 90% creoles mixed with Europeans; the other one has a human development bellow the 100th
Like every other country on the planet earth
All ex-communists countries with communists reminiscent policies haunting their economies.

Because they're niggers. The answer would be quite obvious if everyone here wasn't dancing around the issue of niggerdom and nigger inferiority.

Ok, you can stop bumping now!

Most of them are descendants of East Africans you fucking spastic, mixed with other Africans.


So you admit that Africa will become prosperous, good to know.


You do realise that Seychelles was ex-socialist right? Literally, not an argument, especially when the Ukraine was a soviet satelite state (pretty much state capitalist) and Macedonia dissolved after the fall of Yugoslavia and democratically elected a new government after its fall.

Try again, lad.

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The whole world looked like a third world shithole by modern standards.

Peasants literally ate their own shit in times of famine

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Because they're niggers. now watch these neckbeards perform mental gymnastics.

Population boom/squalor

First off, that's a city. This is where african workers live, not the peasantry(peasants live on the countryside). Second off, that's the slum part of a city, the middle and ruling classes live in the nice parts that has shopping malls and skyscrapers. Third off, in Europe's industrialist heyday, cities where extremely unsanitary as well. Hope this answers your question you dumb fuck

They have the house shapes right, but not the materials wtf