Daily reminder that every Trot you meet will become a neocon eventually...

Daily reminder that every Trot you meet will become a neocon eventually, and every anarchist you meet will turn into a neoliberal centrist

And MLs are already sjws.

anarchists turn communalist or ultra

tankies project their latent liberalism on to anarchists

schrodinger's OP: is he leftcom or ML?

what's with that? it's such a huge thing in France

Trotskyism became a rallying cry for Orwell loving liberals who wanted to LARP as communists while relentlessly shitting on the soviet union. This made them safe to be used as public intellectuals during the cold war and once the soviet union was gone their primary objective had to change to suit the new liberal narrative, namely regime change.

The whole "trots are neo-cons" thing is stalinist idiocy. Leftcoms just think they're socdems waving red flags (same with stalinists).

That's why Luxemburgism is key, because if you start leaning SocDem, you just kill yourself immediately.

cuz trotsky basically wanted the ussr to be a great imperialist power to spread "socialism"

but since the ussr was capitalist… well he would be an american spreading "freedom"

I'm an anarchist with left communist tendencies and I'm reading more and more Marx everyday. Read Zizek, Bordiga, Adorno and Dauvé aswell. Planning to read Pannekoek aswell.

confirmed

You're supposed to eat pannekoek, not read it, user.

holy shit what, please die faster

no, they're praxis is strikingly similar. I legitimately believe there is a legitimate connection between Trots and Neo-Cons not the least of which has to do with their both being heavily Jewish.

he's right you know

Reminder that all of Holla Forums will turn into leftcoms

Trotsky is literally the founder of neoconservativism

Well played, user.

Theory of permenant revolution is the beginning of the neocon dialectic

yes, this is correct. This is the only argument necessary for calling Trots neo-cons and vice-versa

I don't think that's how it works. Not that you're wrong about it being the beginning of the neocon dialectic, I don't know that. I think something distantly evolved from something is not the same thing as the original thing.

I am only being half-serious

the other half is not serious

And the Communist Party USA will end up endorsing Cory Booker or Chelsea Clinton.

Checkmate, suckers!

From my experience talking to trots it goes like this: trots start by rejecting anti-imperialism, arguing all those third world leaders, from Assad to Maduro are "Bonapartists sui generis" and therefore they don't have to lend them support since Bonapartists, they argue, merely manage contradictions within the capitalist state and are holding real revolution back, therefore their governments collapsing is a good thing, since it will lead to the workers of these countries to revolt, so they getting pwned by murrica is a good thing.

This is how eventually, they start to become neocon, since in the trot reading of historical materialism capitalism can only be overcome when "all its possibilities have been exhausted" in other words, Imperialism can only be defeated when it has conquered the entire world, this is the radical opposite of how M-Ls and Maoists see Imperialism, for them imperialism can only be defeated by more and more nations waging wars of national liberation and riding themselves of the imperialist yoke.

So TL;DR neconservatism is accelerationism.

Real talk.

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