Which one of you did this?
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Jesus fucking Christ what cancer is that?
The front line.
Kek. I'm gonna check what the comments look like now. Gonna see a lot of triggered pozzies.
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Normies you have to go back
My blood is reaching boiling point because I can only imagine how shitty and damaging to the Left most of this stuff must be. I've only seen Sassy Socialist Memes, who is pretty good most of the time and even posts Porky memes from time to time. I'm always amazed to look at any page on Normiebook and see a Porky meme.
How can SSM improve?
"I'm not a feminist, I'm an egalitarian" is reactionary? Seriously? Egalitarianism fits better with the material analyses underlying Marxism and most anarchism, history of the friendly relations between feminism and Leftism aside. Feminism has become so recuperated by the bourgeoisie that it's kryptonite to real Leftism. Just look at OWS.
Whether gender, race, and religion are problems can be independently addressed right now is irrelevant because they shouldn't be regardless. Talking about them in any way, shape, or form is bound to alienate someone or some group because everything's so tied up in identity politics.
People look for ways to confirm their prior beliefs - if they see the Left parroting the social justice liberals who vigorously defend state and capital, it turns them off to looking into it further because SJWs really are repulsive and disgusting and they must be the entire Left because that's all people see.
Also, I'm unsure about the whole concept of comedy on the Left. Yes, the alt-right likes to make fun of the Left as being uncritical of itself and being bad at irony, but the problem is precisely that liberals bring too much of that stuff. How many active struggles during the Bush era died out because Stewart and Colbert made people laugh instead of letting their anger simmer and boil over into direct action? Maybe it can work because the Left has a definite ideology with its own motivating factors in it, but I'd be wary.
idpol is really annoying but if you think, in these times at least, any leftist action is which just ignores racism/sexism will be successful, you're a moron. not only because these are real issues (which can be still be traced to economics, of course), but just taking a look at the state most current political discourse is in, any movement which fails to address issues we could label as idpol simply would not function. i have a hard time believing a black person who experiences racism would be eager to join a movement which tells him that this problem is "irrelevant." i agree that most current idpol is an obvious tool of bourgeois manipulation, but this shouldn't discredit people that are upset about getting racially discriminated.
not to mention, there is an ample supply of useful leftist content to be found in racial and feminist theory if they're read correctly.
This. Rejecting Liberal idpol doesn't necessarily discarding all issues of race and gender, it doesn't mean adopting an equally Liberal "colorblindness", it just means rejecting specific idpol ideas, like Standpoint Theory, callout culture, rejecting the idea that racism and sexism are inherent to white people and men, the idea that no one can "stop" being racist no matter how much they educate themselves, a ridiculously essentialist idea of race and gender for people who proclaim these things are performative/social contructs, and finally the rejection of focusing all of out energy on cultural issues like representation in the media, and nonsense like "cultural appropriation" and "microaggressions".
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Oh god.
You would be fucking surprised then.
Can we just stop with this fucking strawman and conflating idpol with human rights already? No one has ever said to ignore basic human rights.
I'm black and nothing infuriates me more than idpol, not only because of it's oversimplification of much bigger problems, uselessness, causing more discrimination, complete focus on people who hold racist views(which does not matter at all) and being plain authoritarian BS over imaginary "issues", it's also racist as fuck(STG I scream internally every time I hear the term "People of Color").
You don't need idpol to stop discrimination against race or sex because its already fucking illegal. Just point it out where ever its seen and the problem is solved. I'm tired of rich white liberals telling us what idpol "issues" we face just to distract us from the real problem, just to keep their wealth and capitol untouched. We need worker rights, jobs and infrastructure in places that suffer from severe poverty otherwise the poorest communities will still suffer from institutional discrimination the most.
And to end institutional discrimination completely, we must first deal with capitalism itself, so personally I can't be anymore done with idpol.
What do you think of the solidarity groups like reddit /r/soc push with groups like BLM and the like?
Do you think we should show solidarity with such groups, or do you think they should be shunned and we should be distancing ourselves from them?
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Buttmad classcucks in the commentsection when Vice shared that article on Facebook. Muh 100 gorillion.
Give me min, I'll reply in a bit.
Egalitarianism is addressing them in a non-idpol manner. Down with feminism, it has no use other than to divide the Left.
You want to address a problem felt by many people but more acutely by black people? Address police brutality and economic inequality.
I hate to bring anything even approaching idpol into this, but I belong to several minorities. Do you know how patronizing it is to be told that you should vote a particular way, think a particular thing, etc just because you're a minority? I hate liberals.
Eeyep. I don't care if that guy a few blocks away is very racist. I do care that he's capable of becoming a cop and shooting me for being brown and getting away with it.
Alright, there is quite a few things I want to explain here.
First off, shunning such a large group full of normal confused people is retarded, but literally who internet idpol warriors are worthy of mockery. Keeping a distance but staying in conversation with them, explaining what is the true cause of their problems to those who will listen is ideal. With this you will avoid ideologues who are a lost tragedy and gain representatives from these communities who are committed to bettering them and fighting effectively against the cause of all our problems.
Solidarity and comrade nowadays are pretty meaningless words judging by what happens in practice. Groups either grow to hate or fight each other for not focusing on their issues enough, subvert, co-opt, and destroy one another. Some due it purely for virturesignaling and pats on the back. /r/soc funny enough, is evidence of this, nothing has come or will come with their "solidarity". Solidarity is just another term for intersectionality by these types of people sadly, and we know just how terrible that is right?
BLM as a group is complex and so is it's problems, there's many types of groups and people within, its impossible to know who is who until they say. It might be possible to show solidarity with a group within BLM but not entirely because obviously not everyone will agree with your ideas or stand together in the first place.
The main problems are the ideologues, opportunist(career activist, self interested black "leaders"/liberals, etc) and people whose minds have been warped by idpol. The latter is very large and most tragic group within BLM, they're mostly beyond help because the way they see the world is through the lens of race. Talking to many has been a very depressing, helpless and sad experience, many won't ever stop seeing the world through a racist identitarian view. Not only they blame people who don't have control for both of their situations, while also dismissing any of the little agency they do have.
The phenomenon is very comparable to what colonial theory/African studies has done to the minds of many Africans. I'll link a article from a socialist that left African studies behind in the next post.
Dividing people into many groups based on looks and identities always causes trouble. I think it's time we go back to MLK's idea of color blindness, that people would be judged by "the content of their character" rather than "the color of their skin", and divide the lines only on class.
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That article gave me cancer.
This is a bad trend if true, considering Holla Forums ideology comes entirely through memes.
Nobody I hope.
But they have been rather successful with it.
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vice a literal spook. While this guy does come off as kind of a weenie, it's amazing work.
Also that Nutella-ISIS-Vice connection is some of the weirdest spook shit I've seen.
One thing's for sure, nothing GG had in its arsenal would've shaken Vice in the least if the funding portions are correct. This feels like government-sanctioned media scamming.
So yeah, they definitely want y'all to fall for it. Probably because it's harder to get normies to grasp what "random slav #43 says" compared to the Germans that have their little 'quirks' like Mengele and his twins already pounded into their heads.
PoC also a spook….kinda they stole it from Malcolm X and horridly fucked up the meaning, probably intentionally. It was meant to be a black nationalist thang.
They also just plain have too much of a view coloured by 🍀🍀🍀Hollywood🍀🍀🍀
Probably one of the few accurate places to use those.
People who watch nothing but that shit are extremely susceptible to the "voting bloc" thinking. They expect real life to be like TV, especially the ones heavily into "fandumbs" like Once Upon A Time.
So you got all the ingredients necessary for uh…basically reducing the intelligence of anyone far enough to think Clinton was a good idea.
go back to reddit
at least fucking read, we don't want your idpol cancer.
nice:
Didn't the Mount Everest-sized conspiracy we'd tripped over the tentacle of become common knowledge among GG almost immediately after the clique's links through DiGRA (Microsoft/Common Core/DARPA/State Department/etc.) were revealed during the Polytron leak?
It's the same with Twatter's continued existence as a honeypot/false flag generator in spite of obvious unprofitability.
Insurmountable odds or not, all that would be needed to nullify their tremendous power would be to reveal their hand to the masses
Of course, it would eventually reemerge in another shape, but it's something.