The William and Mary YDS chapter is hosting a debate with their campus's TPUSA chapter. It'll be a 2v2 debate, starting at 7 PM ET.
Here's the link to the livestream: t.co
The William and Mary YDS chapter is hosting a debate with their campus's TPUSA chapter. It'll be a 2v2 debate...
Hudson Harris
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Zachary Price
Sorry for putting it up a little late, but here's what's happened so far.
The YDS guys denounced Stalin and said they're more libertarian socialism, with influences like Rosa, Kropotkin, etc. They also said examples they like more were Free Territory of Ukraine and Catalonia.
The TPUSA guys have basically just said muh gorillion is inevitable under socialism.
Jaxon Peterson
NICE
Wyatt Powell
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Robert Lewis
yelling "stalin did nothing wrong" just pisses off normies. easier to get them hooked on some libsoc before easing them into tankie stuff
Charles Morales
Dope. No matter what the truth is behind Stalin's regime and stalinism in general (I think it's complete garbage, but that aside) you're never going to convince regular people of that due to decades of conditioning and propaganda. Better to disavow and redirect.
Alexander Jenkins
Yes, for the people who were disappointed at yesterday's debate (including me somewhat), this should be interesting.
The black dude talking now is talking Marx and mentioned "stateless, classless society", so he's def /ourguy/
James Bailey
would the guy who streamed on twitch yesterday do it for this as well? plz
Asher Cruz
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Carson Cox
conservacuck just said "crony capitalism is actually more like central planning socialism".
If the Marxist knows his shit, he should retort that there's no such thing as free markets and the state is necessary for capitalism - and with the advent of finance, there's a ton of economic planning.
Joshua Brooks
YDS guy talked about co-ops and workers owning the means of production - gives Mondragon as an example.
Jack Edwards
When the righties brought up economic freedom they should have argued that economic democracy provides more people with economic freedom than economic dictatorship, just as political democracy provides more people with political freedom than political dictatorship.
Brody Thompson
I wish there were another stream so I could watch.
Nathaniel Wood
He did quip by saying "yeah, economic freedom like being to able to buy things you need :^)"
Justin Sanchez
I believe they're taking a break, and the stream will return.
You can make a bs Facebook account, while they're taking a break. That's what I did.
Ryder Murphy
Friedman was still Keynesian on methodology
Logan Perez
No nvm, they started a new stream: facebook.com
But the guy streaming is holding his phone the wrong way so…..
Julian Rodriguez
They should also put the brakes on that negative freedom bullshit and point out that prosperity is deeply tied to positive freedoms, without which there is no real freedom.
They should ask if somebody trapped at the bottom of a 50 foot hole is free. If they say no point out that they have total negative freedom, nobody is imposing anything on them and yet they are still unfree. If they say yes then just laugh at them.
Jose Cook
He's pointing his phone the right way now, but the screen isn't full.
Yeah, that would be a very useful talking point.
Charles Diaz
YDS guy just mentioned that a corporation is an authoritarian workplace, and there's no bottom-up decision making.
Elijah Thompson
And that's all, folks. Not a lot of people watched, but I think that's okay.
Ryan Cox
Well, thanks for making the thread. I like that YDS groups are holding these debates.
Tyler Rivera
No problem.