Opinions on Contrapoints ?

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An extremely attractive man who's (liberal) opinions could be taken more seriously if he didn't look like a gayer, more feminine marlyn manson.

transvestite white liberal male who pushes cancer.

Probably the best leftist on youtube.

Idpol cancer.

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has some good videos
I especially like these:
youtube.com/watch?v=a3XjRO4-kGk
youtube.com/watch?v=bTomsgnRZFk
youtube.com/watch?v=k6jYB74UQmI

But he is still too much of a liberal and focuses too much on idpol SJW shit

This is kinda horrifying.

Not a tankie but I would not argue if this man was sent to a gulag.

I was with him until the genderqueer video. But that's probably due to my own reservations about gender more than any failings on his part.

I still rate contrapoints,even if he focusses almost completely on these "identity" issues, because at the very least he is one of the few liberals who can defend clearly their own points without having to go into the namecalling.

He is also very cute and I have a bit of a crush on him

I feel like anyone here who wouldn't like Contra are the retards who think any gender/racial issue being dissucsed = idpol. It's not the topics themselevs but how they're analysed and dealt with that make them idpol or not. I do not believe contra falls into idpol too much, but like everyone here I'd love to see him address class issues more often, but either way to flat out hate him for not doing so is the reason why so many people hate Holla Forums.

Contra is the only reasonable liberal on the internet.

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One more reason to call for freikorps to kill off the liberals.

I love the contrapoints in this video:
youtube.com/watch?v=HohFSu9H49A

the "Why I Left Academia" video was pretty good, but the dry and pretty self-deprecating humor that pervades most of the videos is kind of a turn off after a while.

This

Literally no one in this thread has provided any actual argument or reason for disliking him, just Holla Forums tier 'le SJW' bullshit.

Pretty disappointing tbh

this

Nah S&J and hbomb are actually socialist. Contra is an 'academic marxist" but really just a liberal

Contra has yet to 100% confirm if he's a Marxist or not yet.

Literally nothing wrong with this
Stop being anti-fun

I remember a non-contra video where he was on some other leftist stream where he was asked about socialism and directly said he might consider himself an "academic marxist" but that "liberal" was close enough. That's why I put quotes there

Ah well shit. We gotta convert him then - he's the best 'leftist' youtuber atm.

Only because it's the most practical option iirc

When he was in a stream with garrett he said that he was effectively an ex-marxist liberal because he thought people should focus on achieving what's immediately attainable (reform) rather than revolution. He's not uneducated and he's frequently in contact with rad leftists and understands rad leftist positions. You're not going to convert them by memeing at them on twitter.

You can if meme hard enough to make him read a book.

I'd actually argue the other way around, without their drag schitck, no one would care about contrapoints that much.

Also, I am pretty sure she is a Social Democrat.

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It's hard for me to fathom receiving $1800 a month in exchange for the content on their channel

He said he's fine with being called either.

Isn't it per video rather than per month.

idk, that is even more mind boggling if so

I can't imagine being bothered by this while Sargon is making 10k a month

i am also astounded by that fact

(he makes two videos a month)

Anybody who disagrees with TJ The Amazing Athiest is not only wrong right off the bat, but is also most likely a pseudo intellectual attention whore who probably sold out to idpol for attention.

Go away TJ

youtube personality= total trash

no exceptions, that means you MR Dore

Thanks Doc

Dw, I laughed.

Nah, he's shit. To constantly trying to trigger alt-right youtubers is not better than the alt-right itself

She's great. If she would go back to Marxism or convert to anarcho-communism she'd be perfect. Well, to be fair, sometimes the jokes aren't exactly on point.

I refuse to call a mere crossdresser a "she"

Stop trying to be overly pc

I don't care what you call them. Why do you care what the other user calls them?

He's not a 'mere crossdresser', he's gender queer, and said he literally doesn't care if you use he or she.

Fucking tankies.

Actually, she likes to be called a barrage of both male and female prouns.

So by only going by male pronouns, and us going by female ones, you are giving him exactly what she wants. :P

Good joke. He's just a LARPer with a crossdressing fetish. Also genderqueer doesn't exist.

Also he is in no way a convincing enough drag queen for me to call him she

Well alright, that's your problem. No one really cares, it's just rude on your part really.

Because said user was clearly pc virtue signalling

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This issue has been beaten to death. You're not special in your reasoning for not wanting to call someone a certain pronoun. And literally nobody who has an opinion worth valuing cares about your issue on the stance

You're not admirable or virtuous or principled regardless of how you feel about the issue, so just shut the fuck up already, it is such a boring topic and insignificant

*stance on the issue

Guy has a massive flamboyant attitude and literally has a YouTube channel to make fun of people. Now I don't disagree that the alt-right doesn't deserve to be made fun of. But the way he puts himself out there he should be able to deal with me being "rude" apperently. Don't stand in the kitchen if you can't take the heat.

I wasn't caring so much about the actual pronoun issue but more on the meta issue of a bunch of people who are massively whiteknighting and virtue signalling for a liberal crossdressing troll on YouTube ("she's the best leftist YouTuber). This is probably because of the recent reddit influx

smells awful reactionary in here

if you don't see the problem with reddit socialists, I don't think you belong here m8

woah, I was just watching one of his videos when I saw this thread

He's pretty good. Like other anons have said, he doesn't talk about class issues very much, but that doesn't mean his videos are any less good; they just deal with different topics. And they're pretty great at what they do, deconstructing right-wing talking-points and bringing nuance into issues that are usually seen as black-and-white or SJW-and-anti-SJW.

Even if you disagree with his views on certain subjects or dislike the humor/aesthetics of his videos (which I kind of do), I don't see how you can dismiss his arguments as "just idpol." A lot of the people shitting on him in this thread don't even seem to have watched any of his videos

well i don't wholeheartedly disagree with that. sorry for sperging out

I watched the one about the Golden One. He makes jokes in length about the Golden One flexing in the beginning of every video while starting off everyone of his own videos by putting lipstick on. Where is the fucking difference

His videos were great because he shat on anti-SJWs but he also criticised feminist bullshit when necessary and made a lot of non-PC jokes.
Recently he said in a stream that he's now fully in the SJW camp and won't criticise feminism anymore because it gets already so much hate. So yeah, say bye to the only nuanced e-famous feminist on the internet.

Contrapoint doesn't take himself serious. It's his character. Not sure sure about the Golden One.

WHO
GIVES
A
FUCK
ABOUT
YOUTUBERS

go away dumb frogposter

He's probably able to deal with it but that doesn't mean that you should be mean to him.

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Can the ethical speech police please fuck off?
Talking down to people from a pedestal of moral superiority makes you look like a clown

There is no difference, SJWs and alt-right fags are mirrors of each other.

Threads about worthless content creators should go to the /leftytrash/ containment thread pls

I know what I'm jerking off to when I get home tonight.

He destroyed Blaire White on that debate though

some good videos, but i have my disagreements like most people here

i actully think blaire won the debate with him, so he to much of a sjw for me to like

also

go away reddit cancer

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Nazbols are kinda cute when they're trying this hard :3

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anyway
i hate sjws

y-you guys are so fucking rude to nazbols

nazbols have feelings too

How? He was awful in that debate

I thought the same when I found his channel but he actually makes pretty good content

I really should get into this racket
I don't even make that much in a month

That's not Holla Forums tier you fucking idiot. Holla Forums tier would be saying he serves the Jew or some bullshit.

Yes, it's okay for disliking someone for being an SJW, because that's what Holla Forumsacks are. You've got trapped into the defend everyone on the conventional left maze, rather than defending socialism. SJWshit is part of a corporate agenda, even if individual activists claim to be socialists. It's just the flipside of being a Holla Forumsyp.

Arguing against reactionaries on YT is funny, but if all your arguments are about them being actually reactionary or racist, then you have the wrong focus. You're not actually doing anything to advance socialism.

There should be a channel that does nothing but shit upon corporations constantly, but apparently that's not funny enough (even though it totally could be you idiots, the culture capitalism requires in business is hilarious).

He's not even trans in the first place, jesus christ. Did drag queens stop existing as soon as the trans movement started. He's fine with people calling him a she because he doesn't care, but he's not identifying as a woman.

Yo dude, you can't expect people to look at a guy dressed in female clothes and makeup nowaday and be able to properly identify whether or not they're:
a) a drag queen
b) a transgendered person
c) a non-binary gender person
d) a gender queer person
e) a halloween costume
f) an edgy performance artist

He looks like a man dressed in drag, and doesn't even identify as trans, so if you know anything about him, you should be able to identify him as he. He doesn't really care about it. If you don't know about him, then I don't know why we're having this conversation.

I don't know about him. I am just pointing out how ludicrous of a notion it is to expect someone to be able to know someone's "identity" based off of physical appearance in this day and age when there is a never-ending catalog to choose from

It's being almost incessantly pedantic at this point. Pronouns is the most useless endeavor and waste of energy anybody has ever engaged a discussion in. (he says as he talks about pronouns)

he one of the reasons the left is hated

People who aren't very hip to the LGBT community and culture have no idea how to distinguish between a drag queen and a Transgendered person (couldn't it be someone early in transition?)

He still outperformed blaire though. Half the shit she spewed was false and she was obviously knew that she knew nothing about many topics during the debate.

that's not hard tho, blaire is a bit nuts

I hope they feel the bullets penetrating when they're put in front of the wall

SucDems should be banned on sight tbh

you are all a bunch of bullies, nothing more

Fuck the fuck off. None of us should give a shit what pronouns people use. It's bad enough having idpol lefties arguing about pronouns all the fucking time. I come to leftypol to talk about actual fucking issues. I don't give a fuck whether you think 'genderqueer' is a real thing, it is not a valid topic for a political discussion.

Blair: there's an objective thing as men and women's clothing

Contrapoints is a really good example of a pretty reasonable person who got sucked in by idpol due to being susceptible to emotional manipulation. You can tell when he starts talking about social justice shit that it's just a repeat of shit other people have told him. I give him a year before he's in Steve Shives territory.

If you want to succeed to that degree you need to pander and avoid anything that could upset your audience.

No one cares about you anymore TJ, you had your time, now you need to fuck and die.

He's likely to be the only youtuber who actually has read a book though

Doing things people ask you to do isn't virtue signaling you massive autist. If my friend Jonathan tells me he'd rather I call him John that isn't being a pc it's just being a regular person interacting in society.

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I'm fine with disagreement, I frequently disagreed with him. The genderqueer shit is a slap in the face to trans people coming from cis people who, like every single person, do not conform 100% to their culture's gender roles but, unlike most, feel left out of the culture war and turn individual variation into identity politics. It seems pretty clear when you compared his reasoned and measured video on gender from earlier to the "I'm genderqueer" video. The latter is vague and he admittedly doesn't know what he's talking about. This is the point where his idpol friends really got to him (to the point that it impacted his gender identity) and thus the point where he lost my respect or confidence. People who slip into the psychology of group affirmation like that rarely recover. The dynamic is similar to that of a cult.

People like contrapoints are why Stalin made gulags.

Blaire won the argument, Contra won the debate, if you know what I mean

Contra made stronger arguments, and had intellectual honesty. That's all that matter in a debate, unless you're retarded

He's an idiot arguing from flawed premises.

You should at least watch one video. He's not a raving SJW lunatic generally and he is actually quite funny.

This. I'm sure Blair made sense to the echo chamber she calls a youtube channel, but to anyone else, including myself (I have no clue who she is tbh) she just came off as an intellectually dishonest cunt who was willing to say anything, no matter how dishonest, in order to win an argument. At the end of the day she sounded like an asshole who didn't know what she was talking about.

He is a Liberal who seems to think 90's Clintonian Liberalism was bretty based, but he is funny and his videos are pretty insightful, so I forgive his egregious Liberalism, especially because he seems like the kind of Liberal who naturally sympathizes with the Left, like Liberals used to do in the 60's, as opposed to the Liberals of today who seem to naturally sympathize with the Right.

Tbh some things thrown at her were pretty insulting.
"But this person was arguing in good faith that you want a trans genocide!"

I like him, I thought he was kinda weird. But he makes good points.

Don't juge a book by its cover.

>as opposed to the Liberals of today who seem to naturally sympathize with literally are the Right.
ftfy

I have a simple solution: just call him a faggot

this tbqh

oh good, you know every time i come here my first hope is "gosh i sure hope there's another thread about some random liberal youtube retard shitting up the board, i do so fucking hate it when people keep that dumb shit in /leftytrash/"

luckily you faggots never disappoint