Are trotskyists really that bad? or is that just tankie propaganda?

are trotskyists really that bad? or is that just tankie propaganda?

It's all tankie propaganda.

This tbh

They're shit but no worse than Marxist-Leninists tbh, the differences between the two groups are mostly superficial.

It's Marxism-Leninism with suicidal tendencies

They're ok. I wouldn't say they're good. If anything, they follow the great man idea almost on par with Stalinists.

I made the terrible mistake of subscribing to a Trot newspaper. From what little I read, they're pretty much Marxist-Leninists with a hate-boner for Stalin. Their pamphlet used terms like "Stalin and his henchmen" but one of their newspaper headlines was "DEFEND NORTH KOREA" so it seems like they don't know what they want.
I'll post it here if I find it but I probably threw it out

Did Trotsky have any theory besides his critiques of the Soviet Union and Stalin?

you played yourself ya asshole , Trotsky killed and fight the anarkids

Trotsky was a Marxist. He didn't try to expand on Marxism like Stalin or Lenin.


Honestly I don't feel the need to say anything other than that your grammar is atrocious.

He was good at predicting shit by accident. Like how during a fight Lenin and Trotsky had, Trotsky basically predicted Stalin but thought it would have been Lenin instead.

I don't know why everyone bitches about the Trots, splitting over trivial details and bitter feuding after said split is endemic to Leftist thought

Only Trots I've ever met irl were Spartacist League, so I probably have a biased negative impression of them. I mean they were terrible, just terrible, on so many levels, arrogant, needlessly combative, they even insulted my intelligence with the whole creepy cultish "join our party and you'll meet tons of chicks". And I was being receptive and polite, I'd hate to imagine how they act when they aren't talking to other Marxists. Aside from that Trots seem to believe most of the same stuff MLs do, they just disagree on the USSR's legacy, it's pretty semantical, and definitely a pointless argument to be having in [current century].

absolutely ango-saxon philistinist of a statement on marxist theory

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Oh, so Trotsky just embraced Socialism In One Country with open arms and completely disavowed the Permanent Revolution?

Socialism in One Country caused that.

faggot

If the retarded Soviet Union hadn't used and called for the use of violent revolution to attempt to overthrow the western Capitalists, communism wouldn't have such a negative stigma today.

Remember to sage sliding threads. We are being raided.

Yeah, that's the one. I talked to one of their representatives who was selling the papers, and when I asked why socialism in one country is a bad thing considering the circumstances the USSR was in she basically avoided the question, telling me to read The Revolution Betrayed and check out their website. She did the same thing when I asked her to explain what she meant when she told me modern-day China was "Stalinist."

It still pisses me off.

All trotskyist organizations in Europe turned into social democrats, even though they still claim to be """marxists""". So yup, they are really that bad, at least i can respect some ML's for being coherent anti idpol populism


maybe that guy is not a native english speaker. Oh and you just pointed that out to ignore the fact that Trot was as bad as any other bolshevik.