Pol loves the saudis

It's hilarious to me that Holla Forumsyps are so deluded that they can't see how their reactionary ideology entirely comports with Islamism

"Jhiadi John" is a rather sad example of this

Holla Forums is universalist, though. It's even internationalist, come to think of it, seeing the sheer diversity of flags.

It's a bit of a stretch to call their beliefs "universalist" just because they mutually agree they can't get along and should fuck off to their own places.

They definitely see that, at least on 8/pol/. Lurk any thread discussing feminism/socjus, and you'll see heavy support for how muslims "deal" with those elements of society. They don't hide it, they're very open in their unironic support of many aspects of islamic culture.

How do they reconcile those ideas with their disdain for muslims in general and their desperate need to keep them out of their countries?

A broken clock is right twice a day. Just because they want you dead doesn't mean they're always wrong.

You can agree with Islam's position on something (like women having zero political influence in this case) while disagreeing with pretty much everything else they do. There's nothing to reconcile. Hitler and Stalin for instance agreed on central planning but that didn't get in their way of hating each other.

Their disdain for muslims, and their desperate need to keep them out of Europe, comes from not wanting to conquered and subsumed, like what happened to Greece (which is now Turkey 2.0). Now it's happening to the rest of Europe, and they see it as an inevitability that their homeland will be conquered, possibly even in their lifetimes, and it's radicalizing them. You can point out they're spooked as fuck, and that it's capitalism that's causing these economic migrants, but this is one subject where you'll probably never be able to convince them that islam is not a direct threat to them.

Opinions vary wildly on this, but most support some of the aspects of Muslim culture that used to be considered traditional Western values, but are now seen as backwards and bigoted (monogamy, women having the primary goal of being mothers, homosexuality kept under wraps instead of flaunted). Some of the more militant neetsocs also like seeing gays thrown off buildings, and women being stoned to death for adultery.

Also I don't know why you deleted your post, but that's annoying as fuck to read a thread with missing posts, so here it is.

Deleted the post by mistake. Sorry for the confusion on it. But yeah, it's just puzzling to me that they basically hate their own countries' values and culture, hate basically all the white people in them, idolize almost 100% of what their "enemies" believe, and have a strategy of "we gotta keep them out wouldn't want them to change our culture to the one we want". Idk maybe I'm mischaracterizing it but it just seems bizarre.

They hate what their nation's values and culture have become, and idolize what they once were. The specific label for them would be Reactionary. They want a return to what they see as the "good old days", which, not coincidentally, was the platform Trump ran on (Make America Great Again).

I'm sure they'd actually agree with large parts of sharia law if it wasn't a brown man religion

It's mainly burgers though…

So… Israel is applying pol policies?

Greece here. Nothing happened. We are still more conquered by Germany.