Is anyone else feeling the curse of the redpill?

This is what Holla Forumsyps actually believe.

no, of all the feelings of despair this one never really hit me. i've always had the feeling something was fucked since infancy anyways, it's not like there's a point in which i was truly oblivious for me to have an "ignorance is bliss" reference.

Didn't you guys heavily vote for and shill for the jewier of two options during the US election? How do you even manage this level of delusion?

Ever notice how so many people in power are of Irish descent? Think about it. We are controlled by the Irish.

took too many pills, I don't even remember what color they were

I've gotten banned from 8/pol/ at least 6 million times for criticizing Drumpf and agree with you, that is embarrassing. I mean, his own daughter married a Jew and converted to Judaism. Not really sure Hillary would have been that much better but yeah, retards from r/the_donald have ruined both 4/pol/ and 8/pol/ with their worship of an obvious Zionist and neocon.

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knowing about the anglo-american is the true redpill

You meant Irish, right?

At least 25% of the top 100 billionaires in the World listed in Forbes are Jews, which is pretty damn amazing when you consider the fact that Jews make up only 0.2% of the world's population.

Yeah, but you are still going to get assfucked even if they were slaves, gook, Indians or aryans.

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Take the green pill, OP

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Baudrillard. Bataille.

it's wild how a meme can dement someone's mind so much.

Fuck yes

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I don't know if you know how numbers work, but that means that 75% of them aren't Jews. They're over represented sure, but in absolute terms they are firmly in the minority, meaning that they can't possibly exercise total dominance over the vast amounts of wealth wielded by non Jewish elites.

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user, you're forgetting that roughly 95% of the top billionaires in the West are Zionist shabbos goys who gladly do the Jews' bidding. Plus, Jews are much more willing to work together with their fellow tribesmen than goyim are, so 25% is more than sufficient. In the US it's more like 40-50%. Look it up yourself if you don't believe me. Just go through the list of the top 100 billionaires in the US.

Also consider the following. Even if your narrative is 100% true (ie the Jews are the real ruling class and 100% of Jews are in on it) then that still doesn't really change anything, because it doesn't change the capitalist mechanisms through which the system operates. A Jewish worker is still exploited by a Jewish capitalist, just like a white worker is. So if the Jewish worker thinks that siding with the Jewish porky to screw over whitey is a good idea, then he is objectively working against his self interest by collaborating with his exploiter against his fellow victim of exploitation. They're spooked by nationalism. Literally the only thing changed by the Nazi narrative is that it makes Jewish proles the most classcucked people on the planet.

Can you provide an explanation of why this would be? What exactly influences billionaires to "do the bidding" of other billionaires? What actual power do Jewish porky hold over non-Jewish porkies?

Roughly 95% of the non-Jewish top billionaires in the West*

Jews on the top are like a mafia who work together to either manipulate or fuck other people over. Their loyalty between themselves should never be underestimated.

This weekend I stayed off of Holla Forums, twitter, and all other leftist communities I follow. I even stayed away from the news.

It was the happiest I felt in months. Escaping into my job, school work, and video games felt like a vacation away from leftism.

But how can they do this when other billionaires wield more than enough resources to stand up to them? Why don't you have terf wars among billionaires just like with actual mobsters? Even if Jews did have the kind of cohesion you're talking about (which is just a random thing you claimed, you have no backing for this) then they wouldn't be able to exercise total control, they would be in conflict with other powerful people.

rofl at zionist bootlicking Holla Forums sperging out over le jewish question. your entire movement is utterly subservient to israel.

Y i k e s. Read some Marx, ya noodleheads.

Soros pays well m8 what can I say.

No, because Jews control the narrative. If someone calls them out or go against them, that person is an anti-semite. Henry Ford is a great example of this.

that still a thing?

The world is getting warmer and I like winter.

Why are the joos supporting Marxism then, if seizing the means of production is the most anti-Jewish thing ever?

Because Marxism is anuddah shoah. You don't see Israel opening their borders to the poor muslims, do you?

And how do they control the narrative? Through the media? Other billionaires can buy shares in media companies, or start their own. Through education? Other billionaires can lobby government to change it. The problem is that every example of supposed Jewish control is tied to their wealth and status as owners of capitalist institutions. However as we have already pointed out, these institutions are not entirely owned by Jews, nor do Jews wield enough wealth to completely suppress non Jewish elites, who are themselves incredibly rich. So I ask you, why is there no struggle among the ruling class between Jewish and non Jewish porkies, if one actually attempts to dominate the other? Even if the Jews were coming out on top, we ought to at least be able to observe signs of conflict, why can't we see it? The answer that there is none, because the Jewish porkies and non Jewish porkies have exactly the same material interests: the extraction of surplus value from workers of all backgrounds, and the production of profit.

Of course. USA is the real cancer, Israel is just an irrelevant country, protected by USA. Where is the UN,IMF,WorldBank hq? Where was the world globalism invented? Where does all the shitty entertainment culture comes from? Is it Israel? No, of course not, it all comes from USA, the cancer of the planet

Fuck your childish word filters.
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Says the tards who think billionaires are proletariats.

Israel is a reactionary colonial state that should be pushed into the sea. What's your point?

Bingo. Because Israel represents an important geopolitical piece for America just like Iran is for Russia.

Israel is just profiting from imperialism like the Saudis.

Nazis are low Autism Level cucks

I guess. Almost all reactionary thought can be traced back to Gnosticism.

Antifa means solidarity with Israel.

Rly makes you think.

My point is that Jews are pushing mass immigration and multiculturalism in white countries, but not in Israel. What's so hard to understand?

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Jews aren't pushing it, porkies are, the vast majority of which aren't Jewish. Large numbers of immigrants drive down labour costs and provide an easy scapegoat for porkies to blame when they ruin a country. The Gulf States aren't taking any refugees either, and they are certainly no friends of the Jews.

multiculturalism has been a thing since Westphalia and probably since the silk road, because people realized killing each other for spooks is dumb and cooperation furthers human civilization.

you're dumb

fuck you

you will die in the gulag

Henry Ford tried to go against the Jewish cabal, and his reputation was destroyed in the process. You think it's easy to fight the Jews in a world where everything negative said about them is labeled anti-semitic and in some European countries could even land you in jail? How naive are you?

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Henry Ford is literally one of the most successful industrialists in American history, his company is one of the largest and most successful in the world, how was his reputation destroyed? And again I ask you, how do these Jews supposedly destroy people's reputations? I already told you how other billionaires could just build their own media sources to provide a counter narrative. The fact that there is no sign of struggle is proof that there is no struggle.

Europe was almost 100% white until after WW2 and the mass immigration started, you fucking retard.

Ah yes, the poor Ford name. It never recovered.

The Romans literally built temples to foreign gods.

No…acording to poltards only Germany and scandinavian countries are white

Not if you're alone. You'd have to ho full Hitler and start a nationalistic revolution to stand a chance against the united Jewish front and their Zionist lapdogs.

But Holla Forums will never understand this, which is my point.

so what? that didn't stop them for killing each other in the 30 year war, or ww1, or ww2

guess what? your color of skin has little to do with culture and identity and you wont get along just because you're white.

you're a moron

This almost looks like a parody.

Why though? You have consistently failed to demonstrate how exactly Jews wield this kind of power beyond vague assertions about how they can destroy a person's reputation, even though a non Jewish billionaire can just as effectively wield control over media.

do you hear how stupid you sound? do you think a billionaire, even a racially pure pedigree Aryan billionaire, cares more for other Aryan proles and his "heritage" than he does his profits???

If nationalism is a capitalist plot to redirect the fury of the masses why do most nationalists oppose rich jews and capitalists?

The same way you will never understand that USA being the cultureless country filled with retards that they are is the cancer of the planet. You may bring the jews, but they were all born in USA. It's USA tha has been pushing globalism, it's USA tha has beeen bombing 7 countries atm, it's USA that wants to end with everyones else culture for world domination. Israel couldn't do anything without them giving them money and weapons

If you think "color of skin" is race, you are a fucking moron.

They don't. If they did they would be socialists.

Nationalism, like all idpol, doesn't care about who is cracking the whip, just as long as it's one of their own doing it.

No he can't, at least not in a politically incorrect way. He'd be labeled a nazi and you fucking know it.

It's almost as though race does not exist.
You realize this is why we call race a spook, right?

"Recently, since the mid 2000s, African migrants have found their way to Israel in increasing numbers. Tens of thousands of African undocumented migrants entered Israel. Almost doubling from circa 25,000 in 2010 to 55,000 in 2012. Israel is not allowed to deport these migrants because of their UN status as refugees (which is weird considering white nationalists ascribe to Zionism near absolute power over the world). Despite widespread racial prejudice in Israel, African migrants enjoy some support amongst Israeli citizens."

revleft.com/vb/threads/183621-anti-racism-codeword?t=183621

National Socialists are socialists.

That is simply untrue. Nationalists hate when their own turn against them. Ever heard the term "race traitor?"

They aren't.

Holy shit you are not insightful because you noticed that black people also have nappy hair. Of course the idea of race isn't just skin color you autistic fuck.

Nice argument there. I bet you learned that debate skill from college where smart people go so they can know they are smart.

Oh I do understand this. I'm a Swede who's hated the US since I was 14. You don't have a clue who you're talking to.

Thanks.

Changing definitions mean something doesn't exist? I guess class doesn't exist either then.

Holy shit you are not insightful because you deny biology exists.

Class is a material reality. Class relations don't change despite cultural perspective. To equivocate class and race shows your retardation.

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I'm sure he would, but he could just as easily disseminate a counter narrative with his own media apparatus, and thus we would see a sign of ethnic struggle among the ruling class. But we don't, therefore it can't be said to exist, not without evidence. The only remaining possibility is that porkies of all stripes work together, which they do.

Oh you mean like Hitler did? That turned out just great. It's not like almost the entire western world turned against him.

I have to go to work now, we can talk later if I'm not banned by then.

realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/hitlers-finances-and-the-myth-of-nazi-anti-usury-activism/

realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/hitlers-finances-schacht-in-his-own-words/

Nationalists have always turned against each other for capitalist interests. The concept of a nation state was created by the bourgeois in order to bend the masses to their will, to wage their wars and relinquish their labour and rights.

The redpill is just code for autism

Furthermore, even if what you're saying is true, and Jews are the dominant group, it still makes no difference to us. Porkies will by put against the wall, as will anybody who backs them over their fellow proles. That means all those Jews and their classcucked Zionist followers will be put out of our misery.

Yeah I'm sure invading all his neighbours had nothing to do with it. You realize that if Hitler could have just chilled in his comfy little dictatorship right like Franco right? He was destroyed because he literally tried to take over Europe, not because he was antisemitic. If that were the case then fucking Saudi Arabia would be gone by now.

Where outside of Ireland and the US is that true?

Race is a material reality you fucking retard. How can you not see that you are as blindly dogmatic as the people you despise? If psychology wasn't marxist controlled they could have a field day with you fuckers.

Retarded.

Race doesn't exist my good man.

Soros pushed against.

Define White

Shhh, it's ok. Your mentality is just too corrupted and dangerous. This is why Stalin send people like you to gulags. It's dangerous having corrupt fags like you arround

I just tried redpilling myself on Nick Land and Moldybug due to the thread on here earlier. Dark enlightenment reads just like the unibombers manifesto.
It's weird how clueless the critics of universalism are, even since the days of Neitzche. 'it's not rational…. I can't find a single 'fact' that says helping others is beneficial!'. This is classic Freud. The need to establish a hierarchy because they didn't get along well with others when they were 2. Pick up Finnegan's Wake.
Really crazy stuff, govtCorp Lmao. I feel a bit more connected to the national narrative of how we're living in a cyberpunk dystopia now. But I don't actually understand how it's connected to cybernetics exactly.

I picked up a few books out of the Soviet Cybernetics thread here. It seems to me that cybernetics means.. A bunch of things.. I think the Vedic sages who wrote the Upanishads understood it as 'hiranyagharba', or the causal state. I think modern psychology understands it as the left front Neocortex.. Second order cybernetics is understanding the operator (of this machine called 'me'). So how can these guys be so clueless about their own nature as domesticated primates?

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Red-pilled Holla Forumsyps should just read Camus, tbh

This. See the system's inherent problem but know that it will drag us all down with it.

Redpill no, Blackpill yes.
not being depressed is the real mental illness.

How many Irish?

And why would that be? …
veteranstoday.com/2016/12/04/jacob-rothschild-is-guilty-for-the-conspiracy-against-humankind/

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You should have taken the third pill, user.

Got called a racist once for saying something racist and you're still butthurt about it to this day huh?

Why do you illiterate fucks treat Marx like it's the Necronomicon?

its so easy to bait Holla Forums? why did you give him (you)s?

Hey Holla Forums, I know you guys are obsessed with DA JOOZ and all, but you're also obsessed with the Ess Jay Dubyas too, correct? So let's think about them for a moment.
SJWs claim that because most people in positions of power are men that it must also mean that your average dude somehow benefits from some other guy being filthy stinking rich just because they have the same junk. They think that if you replaced the rich dudes with women that it would fix everything and cause the average woman to benefit from it somehow. They rant and rave about how everything is controlled by "the patriarchy". I'm guessing you would agree that its all bullshit, right?
Now lets take a step back and look at the Holla Forums rhetoric about Jews… it looks an awful lot like the sort of thing that SJWs say about men! Why, people even created the term "feminazi" because they sound so similar!

Holla Forums hates rich Jews but also hates working class Jews out of some ridiculous guilt by association the same way the SJWs hate men. Holla Forums, on the other hand, also hates rich capitalist Jews but also rich whites and blacks and Asians and any other ethnicity- the defining factor here is that they're bourgeoisie capitalists who willingly exploit the working class, not because of traits that are completely out of their control. We have no beef with working class people of other ethnicities however, because they're being exploited the same way you are. The system is the problem which is why we want to get rid of it, whereas you just want to cover it in a different coat of paint.

You don't know shit about history, mate. Shortly after Hitler came into power in 1933, Jews organized a world wide boycott of German products:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Nazi_boycott_of_1933

Hitler and Germany were also constantly being demonized by the Jewish owned media in the US, UK and France, years before the war started.

And now for the most important part. Hitler wanted nothing else than to take back the land that was stolen from Germany after WW1, land mostly inhabited by Germans, and to unite with other German speaking countries. He annexed Austria, yes, but an overwhelming majority of Austrians wanted to unite with Germany:
youtu.be/GRZ_Cf-4dbw

It was the same story with Sudetenland. And Danzig, which Poland refused to give back to Germany, despite the overwhelmingly German population living there. England promised to take military action against Germany if they were to invade Poland, which emboldened Poland into refusing Germany's completely reasonable demand. Not only that, but Poles were even attacking and lynching Germans in Danzig. Hitler heard of this and made the decision to invade.

Hitler never wanted war with England or France. They agitated against and declared war on Germany, not the other way around.

Hitler made several peace offers which were refused:
youtu.be/xGm_KeyWWYQ
youtu.be/Kj3aKE4M5bk

Churchill and the Jews were the warmongers, not Hitler.

revisionist bs

I wonder why
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Which part? Be more specific, and I will provide sources.

You understand that honoring military alliances is a pretty normal practice and therefore declaring war on Germany for declaring war on Poland was completely expected? Not to mention that they didn't do jackshit aside from declaring war all the way until the invasion of France.
Moreover, Brits and Frogs could technically go on Hitler the moment he decided to violate Versailles by remilitarizing Rhine in 1936 and yet they waited 3 years and allowed him to violate it a few more times with
Only then they guaranteed Poland and indirectly told him to get the fuck away from Poland and he did as he wanted, fully knowing the consequences.

Y-you don't understand, it's all rightfully German! If people wanted peace they would've let Germans cuck them and do as they pleased!

Of course they did. Have you seen what laws Hitler implemented the second he got into power? Antisemitism as far as the eye can see.

Stolen from Germany? Top fucking lel, it was GERMANY that took those territories from others in the 19th/18th century and they were simply given back. Alsace-Lorraine to France, Schleswig to Denmark, the Polish corridor to Poland, etc.

Okay, ignore that Hitler broke the Munich pact, and invaded and annexed the rest of Czechoslovakia, which wasn't ethnically German whatsoever.

Poland was about the fifth time Hitler promised "No really, this is my last territorial demand" He gambled that the allies would let him take territory after territory without turning their heads. You seriously believe Hitler invaded Poland for a small city?

After winning the elections in Danzig the Nazis banned every other political party and started arresting their members, before the invasion the city was a part of Germany in everything but name. Sure sounds like a city where the Poles could totally massacre thousands of Germans.

He wanted peace with Britain so he could destroy the Soviet Union without hassle, since it was his lifetime objective. Besides, Hitler's definition of "peace" was on his own terms, having seized Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland.

No, I'm retaining optimism. The left is getting energized right now, anyway.

the president of Papua New Guinea is literally called Murphy

We also founded Argentina, Chile and Uruguay.

Also keep in mind that Poole is an Irish surname, and m00t was raised Catholic.

Proofs : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kit_Poole

this is the ant man in its natural state of bliss

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Why don't you just read a book before you embarrass yourself

Which redpill are we talking about there are so many I can't keep track. If you mean realizing that we'll never be able to reason with liberals then yes I'm redpilled as fuck now.

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Cybernetics just refers to the study of regulatory mechanisms of control and communication in animals, machines, and potentially other processes. The concept of the negative feedback loop is what really underlies it.

I've been considering the possibility of using cybernetics to analyze trends in human actions and from there devise an empirically-derived set of metaphysical models for abstracting social realities in a materialist analysis of society. I have a longer post on it in the Empirical Marxism thread. I'm not sure if I'm just spouting what's been said before in different words or if it's really a new idea.

Cyberpunk is simply a portmanteau of "punk" and "cyber-" because it sounds cool and futuristic. Like everything else even vaguely related to anarchism (communism, for example), the word "cybernetics" has, inadvertently or not, been hilariously twisted and degraded in real meaning over the decades. Anarchism is chaos. Communism is when the government does stuff. Cyber means anything high tech, think of "innovative job-creator" porkies like Elon Musk and Bill Gates. Above all else, do as you're told: produce, consume, and reproduce!

The only way to fight any of this is to reclaim coherence in speech. Ironically, postmodernism's discourse on language as a mechanism of social control has muddied those same waters beyond all measure, to the point where it's questionable if it can ever be reclaimed by the real Left as long as capitalism continues to live. Just look at the Pepsi commercial - even with the continual moral victories of the alt-right and the steady rebirth of the Old Left, a postmodern "social justice" and corporate capitalism continue to walk hand in hand, immune to the largely incoherent emotional backlashes of the masses interspersed with flashes of real analysis. I'm at a loss for what to do in words - that's why I can only espouse material action through acts such as introducing cybernetic calculation into the economic world. Already, as pointed out in the communization thread, communist relations are happening between people in the free software movement. It's not enough, though. It must be forced or humanity dies at the hands of capitalism.

The alt-right is, as many have noted previously, directly descended from the incoherent postmodernism-derived idpol of the New Left. It's no accident, therefore, that they are as much incapable of grasping themselves in a materialist context as the liberal SJW reactionaries. Dialectical thinking would be a step up for them, as it is a way of thinking emphasizing the conceptualization of a whole with many parts, a whole that is always developing and never at a standstill. American-pragmatist, cybernetic thinking is what is needed to bring them over for good, though.

The opposite, really. Understanding why I feel alienated and why society is on course to destroy itself takes away a lot of the fear I used to have.

Right, and what about the Hunger Plan? The intentional depopulation of Russia and the killing of millions of its citizens that would be modelled on the genocide of the Native Americans. Hitler was so peaceful he literally wanted to wipe an entire nation out of existence.

TBH I feel better doing what my flag suggests now.

Australia & New Zealand

But the Pepsi episode was a humiliating failure for porky to coop BLM, antifa protests and other movements that are spotlighting the brutal oppression of capitalism.

It probably seems clumsy af to young people what Pepsi did but I'm in my late 30s and remember when porky cooped punk rock and rap music and redirected their revolutionary discontent into nilism and making being pissed off for its own sake cool instead of being made at porky.

and it was every bit as clumsy.

But it worked then so there was no reason to believe it wouldn't work now. I think the swiftness of how that Pepsi attempt collapsed shows how much the internet has changed the material conditions of proles.

I think porky is finally realizing this and starting the process to dismantle the internet and turn it into a sterile disneyland

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