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Anarchism with FOSS Characteristics is our last remaining hope.

THE CYBERPUNK DYSTOPIA IS ALMOST UPPON US!

Somewhere in Germany, Marx is spinning in his grave.

Marx is buried in London, you dolt. Not knowing the first thing about Marx and mouthing off anyway is a pretty good explanation for the flag though.

My bad. But the point stands.

I'm seriously hoping this shit gets a major pushback in the American legislature. If not, I wouldn't put it past them to target FOSS for stealing their profits.

As the rate of profit continues to decline, we will see more and more of an emphasis on rents and legal monopolies like intellectual property. This will eventually make production economically impossible. It has so been foretold!

Maybe WW3 isnt so bad after all. Peaceful dissolution of Soviet Union was a mistake.

Now how about you people develop a solution and praxis responding to the inevitability of capitalism moving towards such model that isn't just reactionary "we must try to stop it"

At minimum, you have to socialize as much of the rents as possible for redistribution, so people's incomes can at least keep pace with the rising rents. It is utterly absurd, but it's a very concrete and necessary step. The idea would be to squeeze out the capitalist class gradually.

So that's a concrete program of war on tax evasion, border controls for capital flows, and a rising capital gains tax.

for the record, Marx is burried in London.

Well if we hook up his spinning corpse to a generator we could have free unlimited energy and go full FALC. The system works guys.

When the law and the legal system are this nakedly slaved to bourgeois interests, the only recourse is to take real-world action. That means establishing militias that are big enough to dissuade the police. Protestors don't do shit; we need soldiers.

We've been over that twice and it hardly worked.

Nope, wrong again. No capitalist in their right mind would target FOSS, it literally provides them with free labour. Programmers code up FOSS software → Porky integrates it into their shit → Porky makes a profit with no investment.

Seriously, why on earth would any of your solutions remotely work? Your 'praxis' is literally to ask porky nicely to give up his profits.

But the energy would all go to the devious Anglo. Do you want to give them even more power?

Wow, that's the best we've come up with itt? 'Ask them nicely' and 'compete militarily with the most powerful army in history'? With geniuses like you two on the case, we're sure to achieve communism any day now.

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Ask them nicely? There is nothing nice about it. It is a decision to gradually abolish the bourgeoisie. Of course this will have yo be preceded by political struggle, this is obvious! The capitalist class is not willing of its own accord to even give people healthcare, let alone that it will accept an increasing capital gains tax. It will take a political struggle.

If you want to know how to wage a political struggle, there are many books and accounts on this. It is not very complicated. Even bourgies have done it in the past.

We obviously need an even bigger government to stop the government from enforcing bogus copyright laws in this crony capitalist system.

You know, except when it did.

There is no competing with the U.S. military directly. What can be done is to make portions of the country ungovernable. For all its sophistication and technical excellence, the U.S. military is stretched thin around the globe. If bits of the country itself were to stop supporting the federal military it would splinter. Losing specific bits of infrastructure would be catastrophic as well–say oil refineries that produce the super-refined jet fuel that gets used in everything or the ports that import all of the machined goods that no longer get made in the United States.

The American military is built to function as a cohesive machine. It is much greater than the sum of its parts. Once all of the component parts stop working together as designed, it becomes managable.

Your solutions are taxes, taxes and taxes. They all require the bourgeois state to implement. Implementing them is the equivalent of politely asking the bourg to squeeze themselves out of existence. The master's tools will not demolish the master's house. All 'political' struggles to do anything close to the things you're proposing have ended up with the capitalist class reversing the decisions, sooner or later (generally sooner). I would call you a wanker for thinking this is anything but a proven failure of a strategy in anno domini current year, but it's right there in the name.

No, smaller government, and let's get rid of those pesky age of consent laws while we're cutting.

I'm well aware of the strategies used in a People's War, I'm just saying that it'll be a total bloodbath that will ruin the same productive capacity that you'll need to actually transition to communism. Of course none of you millenarian day of the ropevolution cunts ever actually thinks about the day after, so I'm just yelling at a brick wall here.

Private property IS big government, the only reason some dude on Wall Street has claim to a business thousands of miles away is because the government enforces that claim for him. You ancap types inevitably either shift towards libertarian-left ideologies like syndicalism or mutualism if you genuinely value freedom, while those of you who only care about controlling others eventually shift to the authoritarian right

Yes, it will be a bloody war, although it is no less bloody than continuing along the present path is. Yes, it will require a lot of rebuilding. That is to be expected.

But we'd better not bother figuring out how it's supposed to be rebuilt before we burn it all down, that would be cheating. Better just get on with the porky murder and the factory burning right away. Day of the rope is coming, kameraden.

Aren't you commies all for paedophile rights and all those progressive causes?

And that business depends on the consent of millions of individuals to exist and to prosper. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with big business, it is simply the function of the economy to create economies of scale. The problem comes when the government controls the economy, and the corporations not only can, but are required to compete in the political scene with lobbying and bribery to ensure favourable economic regulations. Private property is not the problem and does not need the government to be maintained, however it's these things like ridiculous copyright laws which are an anomaly of the corporatocratic system.

I'm literally shaking.

And by the way, you leftists don't understand what freedom is. It's not freedom from nature, the freedom to take other people's cash for your benefit, freedom is the purest sense is the inviolability of your body and freedom from coercion. Ancapsim is the only system which maintains true negative freedom.

Some of us want them put up against a wall. Some want to send them to gulag. Some want to abolish AoC so they can diddle kids. Some want to abolish AoC so they can diddle kids, but then mask it under "accelerationism" which is our "interdimensional chutes and ladders".

Opinions are diverse on the subject.

Time for the anclap memes.

Where do you get the absurd notion that nobody has a plan to rebuild? Every faction here has a plan.

How do you even pretend that you are not a mouthpiece for the established order?

The only freedom I care about is the freedom to seize your toothrush and send you to the gulag.

Nigger that's not going to work, capitalism is currently aiming to erode the power of states which dare to oppose its machinations. The weakness of the idea of using the state apparatus in socialist-capitalist struggle lies in the dependence of both sides on it. Consider a hypothetical bourgeois democracy:
When pro-cappie forces are in power, they obviously further the magic capital with deregulation, trade treaties, lobbyism and shit. However upon losing the power due to spontaneous upsurge of the anti-capitalist feelings among the population, cappies are still in game as they are able to operate outside of that one "rebellious" country and if the time is due, they can simply get back to power and once again start furthering their agenda efficiently.
Now look at the anti-capitalist forces, their base of power is rooted in popular support(not a stable source) and by things like unions, which, as we have seen in history, got fucked the moment neoliberalism got big mostly because their limited scope of influence and therefore bigger dependence on state apparatus.
I would therefore argue that the only organizations capable of competing with capitalists are those also having similar international structures and thus getting least impacted through the destruction of borders and regulations. However the only one sure choice that comes to my mind would be some muh coop-style corporation

I can think of one answer to that problem.

A lot of religious organization would qualify. Any self-funded NGO really.

I still think it will have to be through the state though, because of the raw power of an effective army. See: Egypt, Turkey. The real power in society will be determined by who holds the gun. So you would need an armed transnational organization or network. I don't think many examples of that exist, maybe certain Islamic armed groups.

As always your ancap memes have no understanding at all. No one cares if people want to pay taxes voluntarily, ancaps care that the government will use force them and people who don't want to pay taxes.

Same with the Libertarian community. Except there are a lot of libertines and pedos who think they are libertarian because they want to indulge in fun but have no actual idea what it is, like the Amazing Statheist in his early days.

Yeah right, because Libertarians aren't the most politically marginalised group out there? How can you not see that the elites love you naive socialists, because you are just a means to expand government control and thus their power. You "intellectual" types are at the head, the ignorant masses going along because they want and are convinced they are entitled to free gibs, and it's the established elites who are pulling the strings.

Apparently you're against authority and hierarchy, yet you advocate for the most extreme level of authority and hierarchy in the hands of the state.

Yeah, who can forget how the House Un-American Activities Committee hunted and ruined right-libertarians or how the FBI subverted libertarian organizations and murdered libertarian leaders or how politicians relentlessly smear one another with charges of being libertarians or how media outlets actively block any mention of libertarian groups like The Herritage Foundation?

Nigger, do you have any idea where you are?

Why do you think they hunted commies down when the commies were making a concerted effort to infiltrate the political system, and subvert and destroy America? And yeah you must have a strong argument if all your sources you can think of are from the Cold War and all from America, because America is one of the few places with anti-socialists cultures. And even there Libertarians have little to no influence, while Socialist uprisings have been fucking over countries for half a century, and socialist policies are implemented widely all over the world. Obama was a marxist even. When was the last time there was a Libertarian country? When was the last time a Libertarian was elected President?

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It is a direct response to your previous assertion that exploitation of the working class is fine because there is "consent" from the majority.If that is a valid assertion, then the fact that the majority "consent" to taxation refutes any lolbert ideal that taxation is theft, right?

In the first example, if you don't "consent", you will starve in the streets.
In the second example, if you don't "consent", you will be kidnapped by men with guns and locked in a cage.

This is not consent, this is coercion.

Reagan?

Did he openly praise Marxism as positively as Reagan did in these quotes with libertarianism? Or did he just say something about the poor or tepidly mutter succdem drivel? Is marxism progressivism? Postmodernism? Social democracy? You've made the world marxist lose all its meaning, it's the "fascist!!!" of lolberts now.

So libertarian that he forced social restrictions on the person?

Right "libertarians" are not libertarians, social moralism is inherently in conflict with liberty.

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I dunno nigger, ask him. Personal beliefs and all.

Reagan was a great president and was highly acclaimed, and every one since has been shit. Though he wasn't exactly a true Libertarian. Still, Obama is as Marxist as Reagan was Libertarian, he was when he was young, and it was reflected in his policies and statements he made while in office.

Stop misusing words. Coercion is based on the thread of violence, not giving someone free food is not coercion. I know it will be lost on you but in the free market there is competition, no corporation can do whatever they want to their consumers because there are 100 other corporations doing the same thing which the consumers have a choice to pick from.

Aye, personal beliefs… which he used to suppress social causes like abortion and contraception through the government for his own morality.

Also that quote is bullshit, the quote is [pic related].

And:
GTFO fak nazbol

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For his rich buddies, yes. For everyone else, not at all

I must've missed the times where he said the workers should take the power over their places of labor from their porky bosses

Jesus Christ. Of course. Unions were the devil too I bet.

Coercion is based on threats. It doesn't have to be physical violence. If my boss knows the market is shit and denies me a shift change, an equipment replacement or forces me to malpractice just to reduce his budget he's coercing me. He's leeching off me, exploiting me, and using me as a scapegoat in case something goes wrong. They have fucking done this to me. All while getting up at 11 AM and leaving all the actual work (managing and labour) to other people. This is as much infringing on my "rights and liberties" and putting me and my livelihood in more danger than whatever trickery you want to push in defense of a measly portion of your profit.

Good God.

Not siphoning off the majority of a worker's labor and paying them a fraction of what they've created is "giving them free food"?
What free market? Are you unironically claiming that there is a free market?
Cartels engaging in price fixing and planned obsolescence, government enforced monopolies, etc. There is no free market.
Not when monopolies exist. Say I'm sick of the constant outages and price rape from FPL. Where is the competition?

What twisted bootstrapping baby boomer fantasy world are you living in?

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