Are Christianity and social conservatism really that bad? Is ending history with total liberation that much better?

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Are Christianity and social conservatism really that bad? Is ending history with total liberation that much better?

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makes me want to vomit things i never thought i ate

No it had its uses but they are starting to wane due to late capitalism

no, I'm hoping this ends with the end of capitalism

cult charity comes with the cost of servitude

Meanwhile, other branches of Christianity outside of Mormonism actively justify extreme inequality as being evidence of God's favor or disfavor.

Read the words inside of the article you kneejerk, monomaniacal, ideologically defensive child.

Sometimes true but not generally true. You may be right about Joel Osteen, but you're not right about Catholicism.


Servitude isn't bad if it follows from genuine reverence or respect.

Besides, human dignity doesn't amount to much. If you have to threaten hell to make people care about each other, that seems like a decent strategy for social mobilization.

Also, the founders of Mormonism were from Vermont, as far as I can remember. Most places in America that aren't third world shitholes have strong Northeast cultural heritage. This includes the Mormons.

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shit taste, user. Go watch the 1980s version
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idpol fears the nazbol

what about the gay incest though?

West Virginia has a near absence of racial diversity. Guess what? It's still a shithole because of Scots-Irish inhabitants and Appalachian culture.

It's probably the key imho, social conservatism did help in upholding stability, but capitalism is effectively nuking those traditional values as it doesn't need stability.

Sorry I don't care for the Mormon Chruch
Wasn't there a thing where charities and shit were corrupted and took profits?
Ew

Material conditions and poor infrastructure.

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I fail to see how telling the people that being poor is a trial of God and you will be rewarded for bowing to porky is a good thing.

Religion is bad, religious people are not. It's like hating addicts because you don't like drugs.

I really hate Stirner. The dumbest people can use him to feel smart.

If you cannot think of any sociological or psychological benefits associated with communal religiosity it's because you're stupid, and you are. Your mind is as narrow as a pin.

Yes. They should all be tortured to death.

or its because i like living in reality and not some idealist escapist fantasy i've forced myself to believe because i can't process my imminent demise

retard

woah… marriage is crucial to social cohesion and productivity as well as successful child rearing…

this makes me feel really bad for all the trans anarkiddies who hate families and want to be raised in communal orphanages… i guess it's understandable, but it's still really sad…

Church groups were tremendously beneficial to civil society. Believing in God creates a locus of meaning outside of your head (everything is more important to you when you believe there's an all knowing, caring being watching everything you do- read The Sickness Unto Death for this). Christian affiliated groups account for a substantial amount of private charity, and Christians give more to charity than atheists. Values like impartial love, humility, and respect for meekness make social relations less painful for failures, and beliefs about humans all being saved or made in the image of God provides a framework for solidarity and instills concepts like grace.

By the way, I'm not a Christian. The difference between me and you is that I'm not a retard with the mentality of a progressive middle schooler in the Bush era.

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Nationalism is idpol you fucking retard

You can say Osomatsu-san is bad, but you can't then say Osomatsu-kun is good. It isn't funny by modern standards.

I like Osomatsu-san, it's funny on and off and its rare drama is surprisingly affecting.

The ironic thing is that Christianity is an incredibly egalitarian (barring homosexuals) and globalist ideal. To the point it can sound like a few of the posters here. Of course it contradicts itself nearly every page so there's that too.

Thought I had the post comparing Communism to Christianity but I seem to have lost it to have this Christ-Chan instead.

yeah not all have to be about your autistic politics user

Better next time Mr. Bloomberg writer who's name I don't know because I didn't click link.

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Here you go princess.

There's far better defenses of monogamy than that.

The goal isn't decent upward income mobility but the abolishing of servitude in its entirety.

It has a charm to it

By the Mormon Church no less.

"The chief advantage that would result from the establishment of Socialism is, undoubtedly, the fact that Socialism would relieve us from that sordid necessity of living for others which, in the present condition of things, presses so hardly upon almost everybody. In fact, scarcely anyone at all escapes.
Now and then, in the course of the century, a great man of science, like Darwin; a great poet, like Keats; a fine critical spirit, like M. Renan; a supreme artist, like Flaubert, has been able to isolate himself, to keep himself out of reach of the clamorous claims of others, to stand ‘under the shelter of the wall,’ as Plato puts it, and so to realise the perfection of what was in him, to his own incomparable gain, and to the incomparable and lasting gain of the whole world. These, however, are exceptions. The majority of people spoil their lives by an unhealthy and exaggerated altruism – are forced, indeed, so to spoil them. They find themselves surrounded by hideous poverty, by hideous ugliness, by hideous starvation. It is inevitable that they should be strongly moved by all this. The emotions of man are stirred more quickly than man’s intelligence; and, as I pointed out some time ago in an article on the function of criticism, it is much more easy to have sympathy with suffering than it is to have sympathy with thought. Accordingly, with admirable, though misdirected intentions, they very seriously and very sentimentally set themselves to the task of remedying the evils that they see. But their remedies do not cure the disease: they merely prolong it. Indeed, their remedies are part of the disease.
They try to solve the problem of poverty, for instance, by keeping the poor alive; or, in the case of a very advanced school, by amusing the poor.
But this is not a solution: it is an aggravation of the difficulty. The proper aim is to try and reconstruct society on such a basis that poverty will be impossible. And the altruistic virtues have really prevented the carrying out of this aim. Just as the worst slave-owners were those who were kind to their slaves, and so prevented the horror of the system being realised by those who suffered from it, and understood by those who contemplated it, so, in the present state of things in England, the people who do most harm are the people who try to do most good; and at last we have had the spectacle of men who have really studied the problem and know the life – educated men who live in the East End – coming forward and imploring the community to restrain its altruistic impulses of charity, benevolence, and the like. They do so on the ground that such charity degrades and demoralises. They are perfectly right. Charity creates a multitude of sins.
There is also this to be said. It is immoral to use private property in order to alleviate the horrible evils that result from the institution of private property. It is both immoral and unfair."
t. Oscar Wilde

Income mobility is less likely and very difficult
In cases from people, success is a spook because certain things will mark someone's "success" or not.

So does my cock, faggot.

I bet it does.

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