It's smelling like Revolution

Construction workers vary depending on what they do, but handimen get fucking paid. In the city people barely know how to turn a wrench.

Yes, it's very hard work tho and the wage is quickly falling with more people being allowed to work here on semi skilled working visas. It doesn't really bother me because I'm one of the few that is college educated, but if the current trend continues many of the workers are worried that they're not going to be able to pay back the massive house loans they've taken out.

I'm not American, so I can't really comment on this but I would think that Sander's supports weren't exactly what you would consider working class.

A lot of working class Trump supporters would have voted for Sanders especially in the Rust Belt. After the election his popularity has gone up immensely and he is the most popular politician in the country. I personally dont like Sanders too much because of his shitty foreign policy but the fact that so many people support a supposed socialist is encouraging news.

Sanders main base was working class. He had some support from academia and Jurnalist class, but those classes combined were much smaller then the total number of his supporters. He also won WHITE working class votes in the primaries. Key word White. Sanders did terrible with black and minority voters, but that's because the black church made lot's of pro-Clinton propaganda.

why do we need to model our institutions on 20th century hierarchical forms? The bolsheviks had to do with radios and telegraphs, we've come a long way since then. Why not a leaderless nomad party that spans the whole world, a party synonymous with its base and with the society it seeks to build ie. full asymmetric insurgency against capitalism?

Prepare your asses, Hitler is coming to spank you with his broad right hand, faggots.

SEIG HEIL

If they all knew what her husband did they'd be storming his fucking house with her tied to a pole as a battering ram.

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Hitler's hand is jammed so far up your ass I highly doubt it'll be spanking anything any time soon.

DUBS AND EVERYONE WILL GET A CUTE KOREAN GIRL FRIEND AFTER THE REVOLUTION

what's funny is that there are tons of herbivores that are known for disemboweling apex predators and trampling them to death

buffalo, musk oxen, elephants, buck caribou and elk, bull cattle, rhinoceros, giraffe, hippos

so fucking stupid, you guys are the epitome of dumb shit bullies who became faggot autist criminal minded sociopaths. never understanding that there are passive people who will eventually become enraged and just trample you to death under their powerful feet. you fag

REVOLUTIONS DO COME TRUE

Fair enough, I'm just don't seeing it where I live or people won't admit to it anyway
The closes thing we have to a socialist party over here is the greens and I'm yet to meet a working class person who will admit to supporting them. They had a much stronger support with the people I went to university with though.

Most I've spoken to will support the centre right big business party and the few left over either go with the left leaning centre or the far right. I think the positive thing is tho, is that everyone seems to be very disenfranchised with the centrist parties that they're supporting, and only vote because they hate the other guys more, so it would be very easy for a third choice to emerge right now. Most of these people are far from intelligent tho, so I think that only way to win their vote is to appeal directly to their greed.

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you should have said Jomon you idiot

in b4 hoochie asshurt

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You're retarded. The point is that the strong triumph. If an animal kills an apex predator that only proves this point.

wew

Green Party voters are disproportnly low-income.

Buddy I would love to agree with you, but tbh I just think I'm too cynical maybe.

I still see plenty of liberal Democrat bootlickers on my campus, most of the Republican party seems to be caving in to the Trump administration from my view, the WW3 thing seems like somewhat of an exaggeration as the US doesn't seem to be escalating anything with either Russia or china, and while stuff like the DNA is growing stronger it doesn't seem to be getting stronger by that much, especially compared to Democrats and republicans.

The only thing I'd think you have a point with is an economic crisis, but capitalism has stayed through many of those before.

Maybe I'm just secretly a left com, but I just really see no hope for an actual revolution any time soon.

then why have a wolf you autist? why advertise yourselves as wolves among sheep, eagles among sparrows? its obvious you guys have a predatory mindset. so what gives? why aren't oxen and elk the symbols of fascism? they have way higher animal test levels than a fucking skinny ass wolf.
believe whatever you want

Thanks comrade. Can't say I'd do the same if the U.K. was caught up in a civil war.

When you look at the polls Socialist ideas are much more popular in America then five years ago.

Situation in south china sea is escalating. War with Iran is likely and establishment is pushing a conflict with Russia. I think WW3 is very likely.

Because apex predators are the top of the food chain. The weak ones could be killed by herbivores, that only strengthens the gene pool however. Wolves are a good example because they form a pack, a wolf alone isn't all that powerful against something like an elk or oxen, yet in a group, they are stronger and are able to take down much bigger prey. This is a central point of what you call fascism, which is that united the people are stronger. This idea has been around much longer than muh Nazis.

That's quite hilarious coming from a communist. There's nothing wrong with being a bully, this world has no room for weak people, if you're weak you should be bullied until you become strong enough to bully the bully, or die.

Because that's faggotry gomrade

If you include poor university students maybe, but in my days of being a supermarket shelf stacker, ac installer, scaffolder, container ship repairer and currently general construction sites labour, I just haven't seen any evidence of this. Of course these are just my Anecdotes.

Also, fya SS divisions insignias featured horse and deer heads.

The Fascist mindset of constant struggle has always fascinated me. Why not create a world where people don't have to be either bullies or die?

Because it is only through constant struggle we will cut the wheat from the chaff and advance our race. To paraphrase Joseph De Maistre, it is on the eve of war that a civilization reaches it's peak.

That sounds like the mob to me…

Also, by the same logic, Capitalists are entitled to their profits and so on.
And we can all see what a great future capitalism has for us.

Oh, and, as always, you think yourself the Stronk. Like… the wolf pack wouldn't exclude you asd weak or anything… and others wouldn't be stronger than you… Like .. hmm.. Italy was fascist.. and then it tried to take on Greece.. and somehow it failed… hmm…

Also, what happens after you took down all the enemies? You create new ones from the inside?

And it's during the war that it reaches it's bottom.

The Green Party has very few members so it's unlikely to run into us. However the Greens defiantly need to do more outreach seance when there considered a real option by the working class the working class supports them to no end. Just look at Chery Honkala, she lost her race, however it was due to election rigging which there is proof of. Most of her supporters are working class.

you were never around animals very much growing up were you? a bull elephant or a group of bull musk oxen will annihilate a wolf pack. wolves only eat the sick, the young and the already dead or dying. they aren't able to contend with adult female or male large apex herbivores.

which means the alpha herbivores are more powerful than alpha predators. which makes your position as predators, the one of weakness. considering you lost to peasants and factory workers in the only war your side ever fought, this is a pretty sad oversight you still haven't remedied and its been 70 years user
this is an easy argument to refute
except when they bully white people or christians then they're bad
this implies that calculated stress response training is the same thing as arbitrary, excessive, malicious, barbaric violence towards others. you get stronger by fighting as a warrior or toiling as a mason not by being whipped as a slave.
if uou die from bullying then you were murdered, which means murder is acceptable as long as the other person was too weak to prevent it, meaning it could always be said to be acceptable for the strong. meaning the rule of law and property rights are nonsense. thus, if the left was stronger than the right in the 1940's and it was, it had every right to demolish right wing culture and murder the populations of right wing nation-states

the one thing the left has going for it is vaguely coherent ethical logic. fascism is so fucking loopy, its obvious you don't believe a lot of what you say and a lot of what you say is a flimsy justification for depraved sadistic bloodletting

United against what exactly, you fucking faggot? You're not going to magically poop out material conditions because you listen to dramatic war OSTs and drumming your chest like fucking Tarzan

Capitalist are only entitled to their profits because you allowed them to take it. They were stronger and more cunning than you, and they decided to abuse you for profit. I find it funny even a communist will agree to the point that capitalists abuse the people and should be killed, yet once you name them, all bets are off.

Because reactionarism is a pathology, but for unfortunate historical circumstances we consider it a political position.

its evil, but if you don't see morality you'll never understand that it is

It would be nice to have an organization(s) that can organize strikes and manage unions that aren't glorified rackets, but "revolution" is a bit much, don't you think?

Not really. The system hasn't been hit with the coming shocks yet which will create the backlash necessary for revolution.

United against external enemies and strife. Also united in the sense of forming a national comradeship and love amongst the people.

"Our social welfare system is much more than just charity. Because we do not say
to the rich people: please give something to the poor. Instead we say German people,
help yourself. Everyone must help, whether you are rich or poor. Everyone must
have the belief that there's always someone in a much worse situation than I am,
and this person I want to help as a comrade. If you shall say yes, but how much do
I have to sacrifice? That is the glory of giving! When you sacrifice for your
community, then you a can walk with your head held up high. "

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There are things more important than 'material conditions' like Honor, Pride and Dignity. People like you will never understand, you are either born with Honor or you are a born coward. no middle ground. We are strong and we refuse to bow down before the weak.

Tell me what is so grand about honor, pride, and dignity?

Can I have some links to stuff in the south china sea? And I guess as Iran progresses in it's path to get nukes it does become more likely.

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Here you go.

zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-30/war-between-us-and-china-brewing-south-china-sea

businessinsider.com/us-military-flex-south-china-sea-2017-2

fuck off

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I'm all in now

Lemme remind.

Well, get rid of their hounddogs and get enough people behind you and you'll start seeing bourgie heads falling one after the other!

And then it's time for other bourgies to rise their hounddogs, the fascists, to crush the revolution and be thugs.

And the SOMEHOW they don't like it when the fascists take over and need war… SOMEHOW!

But it's not like you are only tools or anything.. noo… you are exceptional, aren't you?

If the Trump-Russia conspiracymongers succeed, even if just partially, the relationship with Moscow is going to go down the drain. Remember when Keith Olbermann lapsed into hysterics about Russia being already at war with the US and Trump being a literal KGB plant personally controlled by Putin himself? There are some very powerful people pushing that narrative including most dems, some Rs and lots of deep state higher ups, regardless of how unfounded it is, it ain't going away. Millions of normie liberals have become hyperpatriotic McCarthite paranoiacs almost overnight. And the worst part, they are not only targeting Trump but also the Left as well.

Explain why capitalists have unanimously supported communists and leftists for the last couple decades?

Yes, honor your corporatist boss's fat cock for the greater good of the people, now with 4 more hours a day because work is a sign of 'honor, pride and dignity'

WUT?

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Lat time I checked no Capitalist wanted Chavez in power…

It's depressing, but I don't think revolution is possible at all anymore. The technological gulf is too great. It's not like 100 years ago when you could form a revolutionary army and go toe to toe with the ruling class. Look at what happened to Micah Johnson, the cops didn't have to make an effort, they just pressed a button and sent a drone in to blow him up. Look at what they just did in Mosul, killing 200 civilians just to hit 2 ISIS targets. If there is any real insurrectionary workers revolution in the west, porky won't hesitate to be just as brutal. How can people compete against that?

If there is revolution in my lifetime, I'd fight an die, but I just can't help feeling it's a lost cause.

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Anyone who doesn't believe in the Russia bullshit is a Russian agent according to MSM.

Heh. Good one……….kid.

Oh jew…

The capitalist elements of the PSUV have had great power in Venezuela even when he was in power.

The person you are responding to is retarded, though.

imo, the Russia hysteria is as ominous a sign of creeping totalitarianism as anything Trump has done up to this point. The NYT, WaPo, cable news, lost any semblance of journalistic standards, ironic considering 'fake news' are supposedly one of the main pillars of Putler's grand subversive scheme. This reminds me of the buildup to Iraq II, except the deception is even more transparent this time around

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You're delusional. I have stronger ideological grounds than a fascist to dislike tankies, and you don't see me peddling this bullshit.

George Soros worked to introduce capitalism and parliamentary "democracy" in the USSR. He profited off the impoverishment of millions by creating the 1997 Asian financial crisis. He's an exemplary anti-communist and reactionary bourgeois capitalist.

We don't care if he supports "gay rights" or some other meek liberal idpol bullshit like that. The guy's objectively a monster, everything we oppose.

Bro lurk more. You should know the difference between private and personal property.

This is your brain on Holla Forums, like how does one even end up believing something so completely and utterly absurd. Can you give one single example of capitalists supporting a communist party or movement? inb4 the democratic party is communist.

I have never posted a hot Asian girl on Holla Forums before without this faggot replying with these exact memes.

Like what are you even trying to do? It's like some Holla Forumstier anti irrelevant shiting shit, but you're always here, on Holla Forums replying to these within an hour with that same reply.

The revolutionary leaders are already working their way into the major party system under the Democrats' banner.

State party reorganizations have already put more lefty people in place in like 18 states.

NJ and VA vote this year, and there are certified lefties on the ballot in a bunch of their legislative races.

There's some parrallel construction going on under the party structure already. Separate organizations coming in and performing the functions for leftie-Dems that the corporate Dem parties provide for porky candidates.

Shit's about to go down.

I hate to tell you, but….

The Democratic Party and even the worst liberal media personalities are finding new life with the disaster that is Donald Trump.

lastnighton.com/2017/03/17/real-time-bill-maher-daily-show-ratings-grow-trump-era/

will this happen? ive read in some places about how a crash is going to happen because the markets for houses,student debt, rents, and healthcare are getting too high and unsustainable

would this actually happen? and when?

It's pretty telling that when discussing the democratic party, your mind immediately jumps to the ratings of popular late night television hosts.

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No telling the exact time but there is usually a market correction every 4-8 years. Its been about 8 years since 2008, so probably very soon.

Yeah, because the Democratic party is so deep and philosophical, and I'm being completely vulgar in dragging the esoteric thought of Nancy Pelosi through the mud by using the ratings of Democratic-leaning liberal media hosts as an indicator of what direction the country is going in.

I bet you read Chuck Schumer's Thoughts on Heidegger in the original French, don't you?

I think Trump is good business for comedy which is why those shows are getting better ratings but in terms of that applying to Democratic power, I cant a see a good connection. After all the Dem's approval rating is at like 36% or something. And it keeps getting worse.

…ok. So you agree that these shallow indicators are probably a sign that the democratic party isn't doing so hot? It's really funny that you found my post to be a defense of the democratic party of all things.

There are lots of ways to deal with drones. Hacking, jamming, EMPs, or in the case of ground-based drones, simply building barricades that they can't get past. Robots are still terrible at negotiating unfriendly terrain and will be for some time.

The political pendulum is clearly swinging back to the liberal side. The existing Democratic status quo will probably not do well, just like John McCain and Mitt Romney never recovered their political stock, but at the rate things are going, there will be a strong Democratic resurgence in the mid-term elections. That's just political common-sense. I'm surprised that I even have to go into much detail on this. I posted the part about Maher and Noah because I thought it was interesting and telling re the trend, not because I am arguing about poll numbers on contemporary Democrats.

The problem when you make sarcasm too obvious is that it is no longer funny. I'm sorry, but I can't accommodate everyone.

THIS IS WHAT Holla Forums ACTUALLY BELIEVES

I dunno, the Dem's seem to be doing everything in their power to make themselves unpalatable.

I agree, but we can expect a new crowd of Democratic politicians to appear inspired by Sanders. The obvious recent parallel would be the Tea Party movement in the 2010 mid-term election cycle.