Congratulations accelerationists, you played yourselves

Chomsky is a bourgeois ideologue.

t. internet neckbeard

You know, sometimes interests of porkies coincide with that of the working class. Stop sucking the dick of ideology and be pragmatic for once.

Reform isn't gonna save us, liberal.

Everything seems to be going according to the plan.
The world as it is now is fucked and the only way to fix it is to completely destroy and rebuild.

It always will be under capitalism.

Sup libshit

It doesn't matter if they pretend to care about it or not. Climate change is destiny. We are just going to have to bite the bullet on this one.

Make up your mind faggot.

You're right. Just wanted to piss off accelerationists with their retarded ideology.

Good one

Capitalism for the poor, hoxhaism for the rich.

Trump becoming elected was a legitimate uprising. But not the uprising you wanted. The uprise you wanted is not happening. And why would it happen at all, if you wouldn't have rise against Clinton even if she is every single bit as bad as the other guy? Deep inside you don't even think bad of her, you rooted for her, and if you think deeply about it you don't even truly can justify it.

The world was doomed long ago. Try to make the rest of our days, or at least your last days, pleasant for you and your loved ones.

t. po-mo zizekia

this tbh

this needs to be updated

As long as capitalism remains the dominant economic system, environmental disaster remains inevitable regardless of who's in charge.

Nah. There's still the coming financial crash and WW3. There will be mass movements unlike the world has ever seen before.

Anyone notice how these "guys its over lets just quit leftism cuz climate change" threads have gone up 500% ever since that annihilist posted the methane doom-mongering thread?

Humanity not gonna go extinct because of it. Just makes the problems we have now pale in comparison to that of the future. I would rather not have to achieve socialism from more suffering than is necessary.

anarcho-nihilist purge when?

Most climate scientists don't seem to think a methane apocalypse is imminent, but apparently both the far left and far right thinks the climate scientists are lying about climate change.

if things get worse and stupid people die I consider it a win

The idea behind accelerationism is to bring about social agitation to incite, kind of like the Doomed Man but without a conscious agent directing the agitation or planning conspiracy. The mere fact Trump denies climate change will incite people to be even more outspoken to prove it - I wouldn't worry too much about it, it's dialectics e.g. the rise of anti-feminism is a direct response to feminism.

Thinking this over, what if Clinton were elected? You had people etching to grab their guns and cause a riot, like that one senator or whatever his position was threatened in a tweet. We could have potentially been already on the road to a civil war at least much faster than now :^) in the USA. Yeah sure, most of them are LARPers lost in their masturbation fantasies, and Trump would most likely respectfully concede, but there definitely would be some ruckus that could accelerate much like what is happening now.

Start lifting fellas; class war, environmental apocalypse, r.ace war, survival, whatever is coming you gotta be ready.

Were the liberals going to immediately ban the use of fossil fuels?

Because that's what it would have taken to stop the methane release.

And that's all it would have done.

Zizek was right. People like you suffer from a severe case of Nancy Pelosi-syndrome.

the problem is not an-nihilists per se, but anti-natalist and misanthrope edgelords. see
and of course the greenies that so desperately want the world to burn, just so they can smugly proclaim "I was right" with their last dying breath.

Lots of Hurr if only we would have voted for the lesser evil, we wouldn't be in this mess ITT. People forget about the candidate that wanted to free every from student debt and create 50 million jobs in renewable energy. But acting as if electoral politics is the answer is just folly.

What do you call state and corporate power merge, the closing of the boarders, fear and hatred of Muslims and immigrants, increased privitization, increased military, a return to law and order, the reinsitution of repressive traditional values, attacks on the free press, attacks on artists and intellectuals, a demagogue using 140 characters to spew race and classed based hate to a whipped up right extremist base? Yeah but there's no sign of fascism on the horizon anywhere.. What a mythology!

Why can't stupid people get educated instead of dying?

Well, there's the UK's Labour Party in the '60s and '70s during the war in Iran. Was that fascism, too? I don't recall anyone calling it fascism even though it did everything you just listed to a T.

The term fascism shouldn't be abused. Both the left and the right, but especially the left, have a pathological tendency of misunderstanding what fascism is and isn't: libcom.org/library/fascism-anti-fascism-gilles-dauve-jean-barrot.

Does algae truly have revolutionary potential?

In case you've forgotten, the Democrat's plans for fighting global warming were shit like "Reduce emissions by 10% by 2100". That shit wouldn't have averted crisis.

What we need is to destroy the Democrats so that a real political Left can rise that takes the crisis seriously. Yes, Trump is going to be bad for the environment, but he'd have to destroy the earth in 4-8 years for accelerationism to backfire. No, not simply ignore the problem, that's what the Democrats would have done, actively exacerbated it into crisis within his term.

Personally, I think we can weather a few more years. What we need now is a massive political realignment to the left, and Trump is giving that to us.

I mean we're having an intrinsically "lesser evil" argument. I don't think anybody in this thread is arguing under the assumption that anyone is good. So even in your example it means not dying a fiery death 10-20% faster.

Though now that Trump is in, I agree it's pretty fucking pointless to whine about it instead of getting shit done. We're all accelerationist now boys

There is literally nothing more retarded on this board than thinking that Trump is an accelerationist option. His trade policies are protectionist, he is pro goverment spending on infrastructure etc. Hillary was the obvious choice for neoliberal accelerationism.

And its a obvious Holla Forumsyp bait that some idiots swallowed.

Uh, I think that Clinton being president would've harmed us communists much more. Now that Trump is president, there can be an open dialogue and we really should take care of this void before it fills with retardation once again.

Excellent. Let it burn.

Well until it does there's no sense worrying about it.

Stop doomsaying.

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I can't wait for the phony terrorist attack that will allow Trump to stabislih martial law and and help to boost his popularity

yeah ive been seeing more malthusian doomsaying eco bullshit here recently. more leftists should read austerity ecology and collapse porn addicts

Nah. Fascism can infect any system. It's not a result of the socioeconomic conditions of Europe in the second half of the last century. It's any regime that relies on an open rule of xenophobic nationalism. By ignoring this fact, you become a shameful collaborator, and normalize the road to horrors.

We are reaching levels of liberalism that shouldn't even be possible.

SHAZBOT

nope nope nope wrong wrong wrong

fascism is total mobilization of the population towards ethno-imperialist goals that includes class collaborationism, guild socialism, corporatism, corporate fascism, military rule and a police state. you are an ignorant fag

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Nope, most of what you said was either exaggerated or a lie.
Fascism is a tool to fight off the Far-Left, there is no Far-Left in sight so I don't see why it would happen (yet).

The Encyclopedia of Marxism defines fascism as "right-wing, fiercely nationalist, subjectivist in philosophy, and totalitarian in practice", and identifies it as "an extreme reactionary form of capitalist government."

To quote it:

There are several fundamental characteristics of fascism, among them are:

Right Wing: Fascists are fervently against: Marxism, Socialism, Anarchism, Communism, Environmentalism; etc – in essence, they are against the progressive left in total, including moderate lefts (social democrats, etc). Fascism is an extreme right wing ideology, though it can be opportunistic.

Nationalism: Fascism places a very strong emphasis on patriotism and nationalism. Criticism of the nation's main ideals, especially war, is lambasted as unpatriotic at best, and treason at worst. State propaganda consistently broadcasts threats of attack, while justifying pre-emptive war. Fascism invariably seeks to instill in its people the warrior mentality: to always be vigilant, wary of strangers and suspicious of foreigners.

Hierarchy: Fascist society is ruled by a righteous leader, who is supported by an elite secret vanguard of capitalists. Hierarchy is prevalent throughout all aspects of society – every street, every workplace, every school, will have its local Hitler, part police-informer, part bureaucrat – and society is prepared for war at all times. The absolute power of the social hierarchy prevails over everything, and thus a totalitarian society is formed. Representative government is acceptable only if it can be controlled and regulated, direct democracy (e.g. Communism) is the greatest of all crimes. Any who oppose the social hierarchy of fascism will be imprisoned or executed.

Anti-equality: Fascism loathes the principles of economic equality and disdains equality between immigrant and citizen. Some forms of fascism extend the fight against equality into other areas: gender, sexual, minority or religious rights, for example.
Religious: Fascism contains a strong amount of reactionary religious beliefs, harking back to times when religion was strict, potent, and pure. Nearly all Fascist societies are Christian, and are supported by Catholic and Protestant churches.

Capitalist: Fascism does not require revolution to exist in capitalist society: fascists can be elected into office (though their disdain for elections usually means manipulation of the electoral system). They view parliamentary and congressional systems of government to be inefficient and weak, and will do their best to minimize its power over their policy agenda. Fascism exhibits the worst kind of capitalism where corporate power is absolute, and all vestiges of workers' rights are destroyed.

War: Fascism is capitalism at the stage of impotent imperialism. War can create markets that would not otherwise exist by wreaking massive devastation on a society, which then requires reconstruction! Fascism can thus "liberate" the survivors, provide huge loans to that society so fascist corporations can begin the process of rebuilding.

Voluntarist Ideology: Fascism adopts a certain kind of “voluntarism;” they believe that an act of will, if sufficiently powerful, can make something true. Thus all sorts of ideas about racial inferiority, historical destiny, even physical science, are supported by means of violence, in the belief that they can be made true. It is this sense that Fascism is subjectivist.

Anti-Modern: Fascism loathes all kinds of modernism, especially creativity in the arts, whether acting as a mirror for life (where it does not conform to the Fascist ideal), or expressing deviant or innovative points of view. Fascism invariably burns books and victimises artists; artists who do not promote the fascists ideals are seen as “decadent.” Fascism is hostile to broad learning and interest in other cultures, since such pursuits threaten the dominance of fascist myths.

Told you about these jewish centralists working for the Rothschilds

I wonder $$$WHO$$$ could be behnd these posts

Accelerationists are retarded.

This is how people started thinking that obamacare was far left.

fascism is pure state supremacy and control over the current society. It is the rejection of personal autonomy in favor of state-oriented goals.

Fuck off retard. Clinton wouldn't have done anything to stop climate change either.

This is the retarded version of it. Real accelerationism is pushing the contradictions of capitalism to its limits so it comes crashing down either by economic crisis and/or revolution.

Soviet Union was fascism?

Yes

Even then, there's a chance it's a meme.