Gun-Totin' Left-Wingers Demonstrate at the Arizona Capitol: Is Bloodshed on the Horizon?

>Hey, lefties with guns, that's cool.

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Stole this from Holla Forums:
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As long as this leads to them forming parties with paramilitary branches and not just impotent protest, this time with guns on show.

holy shit I have waited so long to see this

its beautiful

Ya god-damn right it is. I just wish they had a branch close to me TBH.

op everyone here, literally EVERY FUCKING ONE would feel between indifference and adoration for armed left-wingers.
but those people are a bunch of bought astroturfers.

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Why do faggot demonstrators DEMONSTRATE IN PUBLIC and then complain when journalists look at them / take photos of them?

[credible citation needed]

This makes me excited that leftist are finally getting armed, but it does make me a little nervous because this means that we are close to civil war which I'm not anti war, but this could result in the left getting fucked again. Also, a lot of those responses in that thread OP linked are cancer especially this photo I found.

so much for the tolerant left

dude start your own. Reach out to local leftist groups

I encourage everyone to do this, but exercise extreme caution. A good chunk of the folks you meet at the range are reactionary af and will be very hostile to any leftist rhetoric, and frankly you can't trust anyone you meet on the internet… no offense, comrades.

how else are you going to get the message out?

start affinity groups with people you actually know that support you

You were a sucker for believing that liberals were the left.

kek


how many layers of Breitbart is the person who made this image on?

How… How is Holla Forums this retarded…

I tried getting in touch with the PSL chapter in my area but never heard back from them.

YES. HOPE FOR BURGERSTAN

Post redneck commie memes or make em

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holy fuck that autism

God dammit I hate being an urban prole sometimes.

Also why do gun toting leftists trigger Holla Forumstards so much? I thought they loved guns?

So this is the power of nazi autism.

they literally had to make a fake stimulation

homemade explosives are for urbanites

they loved guns cause they thought they were the only ones WITH guns.

Appearantly redneckrevolt is some sort of movement/website

This booklet was on their site, about urban warfare. ia800802.us.archive.org/15/items/Mini-manualOfTheUrbanGuerrilla/Mini-manualOfTheUrbanGuerrilla.pdf

Its formatting is fucked up though. Will see if I can fix it tomorrow.

Also too big to upload.

They should definitely tone the Idpol way down though.
What the fuck is that flag?

Atleast they believe in the unity of all of these struggles. Its a start.

Nah it's not idpol in the sense of being micronationalism. There's nothing wrong with wanting to defend vulnerable groups from attacks by neckbeards

A simulation is always fake

but that one was ==DOUBLE== fake.

From the Holla Forums thread:


What level of denial is this guy on?

They aren't wrong necessarily. Liberals won't become full on Holla Forumsfags but they will side with "centrist" parties/movements that empower fascism.

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That banner is pretty stupid and full of idpol. Regular workers aren't going to get on board more idpol trash. You need to show them it's in their own interest to be socialists.

Ehh, I guess. The whole "scratch a liberal, out bleeds a fascist" thing.

But the overall trend is that people are starting to despise the right-wing, as they've become inextricably bound to Trump's idiocy. He has the lowest approval rating in presidential history, and Sanders has become the most popular politician in the country.

This is the real problem. The world is full of milquetoast liberals who will denounce violence and any real opposition to the fash no matter how bad things get.

So much for the tolerant left : ^)

Are they LARPing or exercising shrewd PR?

Honestly, idpol ruins everything.

"They exterminated my whole family but if I fight back I'm as bad as they are."

At least the hashtag they used was #solidarity

It's pretty hilarious how pol conflates "leftist" and "die hard Hillary supporter"

>"Uhh no I'm not a Nazi? I'm simply a white nationalist that advocates for """""peaceful""""" ethnic cleansing."

It was liberal PR. They are red as fuck.

Tbh I really don't want to say this because everybody on every side always accuses the other of being insecure and projecting, but I think that's a big part of what's happening in that thread is them doing exactly that. Specifically what tips that off for me is how many of them are specifically ripping on how the militants look, what gear they got, and the things they are saying. It seems to me that a lot of Holla Forums are trying to affirm that they are superior to everybody else I think this is evidenced by the fact that several people in the thread are going on about how the group is just posing and that they would run from any actual fight and also just in general them going on about how the right has much more experience which is true and this is why the left is forming these groups in response to this problem and for self defense, but of course Holla Forums being Holla Forums thinks that this is not grassroots at all and it's really being funded by Geroge Soros/joos in general. Also, with this whole narrative that these militants are just posers Holla Forums keeps going on about things like the gear some of them are claiming that the guns are fake and I think they're partially right. Partially a lot of this is a PR move, but these aren't larpers. You see they are hitting at a time when people don't trust Democrats or Republicans, the radical left and the far right are becoming more popular, and people are looking for solutions that are not being given. One of the biggest problems of the left is that the organization today is shit. Other than some smashies and squatters there is not much being done. So now that redneck revolt is finally tipping over that monopoly which the right has been holding that rightists have when it comes to guns and militias they aren't happy. They are going to get resistance if they try to hang us all. My point is if you look at the John Brown Gun Club facebook page you will see that these people may be trying to build an image out in public, but they really are getting prepared and are starting to learn how to use guns. This is why I think that the responses are the way they are and one of the main reasons I think this is projection/fear. They don't want to think that they are inferior enough that they have to put up a fight to get their goals they think that they are superior to the point that they can wipe out opposition easily, but they can't.

Good post. Most of alt-right politics is projection, sexual frustration, and narcissism. That's what happens when you base your politics on culture war crap instead of material interests.

Anyway, I think it's good the left is starting to form a gun culture.

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culture war meme needs to die. and its fucking hilarious how many people take it seriously

They really could use some visual marketing/PR. Drop the ugly neckerchiefs, wear clothes with similar traces but not enough to be a uniform etc. Also getting /fit/ wouldn't hurt.

This is some Eric Harris-level shit… pretty telling considering he was a right wing Timothy McVeigh worshipper.

That manual is on Marxists.org it doesn't have the images or stylized subheadings though.
marxists.org/archive/marighella-carlos/1969/06/minimanual-urban-guerrilla/

I want to punch this entitled piece of shit so fucking hard, fuck liberals!

It's what became acceptable as politics because cultural shit was literally all that was left to fight over after "the end of history". Economics and material concerns were generally off limits, or at most allowed to be tinkered with around the edges and 'managed'.

We might be seeing that begin to change now, depending on how the next few years go.

why can't they dress normally?

every time

It always feel somewhat awkward or un-PC to say this, but the fact that far-left groups have attractive female members while far-right groups don't is pretty much a guarantee we'll win in the long run. This wasn't as true in the past because of patriarchy, but Women have a lot of social power and impressing/getting them influences men hugely.

the fact that alt-right and to a lesser extent libertarian ideology/rhetoric is so unpopular with Women greatly reduces the chance that they'll ever gain the same kind of traction as the radical left is capable of.

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WHY DON'T THEY JUST GRAB HIS FUCKING IPHONE AND SMASH IT INSTEAD OF LETTING HIM RUN HIS FUCKING MOUTH WHILE ENDANGERING THEIR LIFE'S

I vaguely recall some years ago, some Kraut neo-nazis made this retarded music video on Youtube, and one of the things they listed as their "advantages" was that they fucked without condoms, and the chick on screen was hot.

what?

THE FIRE RISES

From the pol thread:
Fuck this gay earth.

I mean tbf, during the Russian Revolution a lot of soldiers and police defected and joined the revolutionaries.

Although I might be wrong and it was just soldiers, not police.

liberals like him need to be treated the same as nazis, they were way too civil with someone as aggressive and insulting as him and that could cost them there's jobs or even lifes

But user, the police are ZOG Occupied Governmentbots that do whatever the Jews tell them to. They are always against the White man's interest, just look at this:
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I think it was more soldiers, police are almost always the last ones defending the old regime.

Seriously the fact that this prick got all self righteous infuriates me.

Holy fuckin shit

Over 40% of police are also domestic abuse.

These people are a terrifying menace.

Oops, sorry, replied to wrong post.

The second amendment applies to socialists to.

I don't understand why they tolerated him

The Black Panthers used to organize protest marches where they would carry a gun in one hand up high and the constitution in the other. The conservatives of the time were driven into apopletic fits.

Sorry I'm confused what you're trying to imply with your anecdote about Nazi's. It is funny admittedly, but I'm not sure how it relates about what I was saying about sex-appeal being useful in politics.

That's so based. Then Ronald Reagan violated their constitutional rights which is conveniently ignored by all the "muh leftists luv gun control" retards.

As long as a civil war doesn't happen there's nothing wrong with militias. Also anti-Gun liberals should know that they won't get any ideological aid from socialists on the issue of guns.

The idpol needs to go though

Dude said far right groups attract no attractive chicks, well I saw one. The proverbial unicorn.

hmm.. normal


OMG SOUND THE FUCKING ALARM GHGHDKDKHGHGDKDKDHFDIIEIUALDFJAJFHAH

WE'RE A REPUBLIC! THAT GIVES ME THE RIGHT TO HARASS YOU

can you please go

OMG FUCKING LEFT WING FASCISM

Why does acknowledging the different experiences of workers trigger you so?

This

It's funny, immediately after this happened every sperg on Holla Forums has been combing through the pics / videos trying to prove they're carrying airsoft. They keep trying to bring this shit over into /k/ and it's totally backfiring, /k/ommandos seem pretty cool with it and telling them to fuck off. There may be hope for them yet.

No one likes Holla Forums. No one.

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How does bitching about getting the message out get the message out?

If they really are anti-Holla Forums, start spreading the message of socialism on /k/, guys.

Emphasize that it's in their material interest, and also all the historical leftists that weren't anti-gun (ex. Marx, Black Panthers, etc.)

Ever since Trump won more places seem to be getting sick of Holla Forums's bullshit. There is no need to actively convert them at this time.

Interesting. I guess that's true. This board is #3, so I suppose just existing is good enough advertising.

Funfact: As a student Marx was arrested for carrying a sable in public, nighttime disturbance and vandalism. :^)

Wait where are you seeing that? The /k/ thread here agrees with Holla Forums:
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also this comment holy fuck

I like how he assumes that Holla Forumstards have the balls to do any of that.

I meant halfchan /k/. Last time I checked /k/ here it was dead

He probably meant 4/k/, every board on Holla Forums is Holla Forums's personal hug box.

The only /k/ thread I see on 4chan is boards.4chan.org/k/thread/33442626. People there are actually praising them though.

All I'm seeing here is more Holla Forums autism though.

brb legally purchasing a gun from an authorized gun merchant (fuck off FBI.)

It's about 50/50, which is a lot better than I would expect of a board that is often described as a Holla Forums colony. A lot of new gun owners and noguns kids lurk /k/ so any even decent exposure over there is s good thing. Propaganda of the deed my friends.

Someone is afraid.

I believe in mercy, but these people make me want to say "LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL"

And anarkiddies wonder why Stalin is still so widely loved. Those are the kinds of reactionaries he was dealing with. Death is basically the only solution for them.

No thank you

To be fair, there is no distinction in their mind between Liberals and Leftists, so Anarchists with guns will be met with much disbelief.

this

tolerance means a bullet in your fucking head, nazi

These retards have only cheap shot insults.

Look at how many former military members are jacking themselves off over how they "can't wait" with their "bring it on" posts.

I mean, sure, they have decent training, but I don't find them particularly intimidating, these far right fucks. All it takes is good aim and 1 bullet, that's it, and all that "training" didn't mean shit.

It's funny though how much they talk shit.

it's not a change of topic. the topic is reactionaries who need to get purged, the answer is stalin.

I think this is just them projecting their fear and insecurity at the sight that white people, brown people, and black people are finally standing shoulder to shoulder against the empire.

The right only likes guns when they're owned by conservative whites, so this totally triggers Holla Forums and the only thing left they can do is try to make it seem like the left doesn't know how to defend themselves.


I think they're triggered by the fact that Jamal from The Hood might team up with the local redneck commie to take his toothbrush.

I fully support this initiative.

Most grunts nowadays are trained to just hide and wait for air support anyways. They won't be much of challenge.

Maybe 4/k/ would be good for this. 8/k/ is pretty much a lost cause. Go check some of the threads there. Their political illiteracy and disingenuousness is off the scale. Only a handful of them know anything about anything.

It's been that way since WW2 at least, instead substitute artillery for airpower

It's absolutely true what you say here. Have you ever looked at ISIS propaganda and how they "raid" houses? I mean, those guys have massive balls compared to any of these burger pussies.

They ride in the back of the truck while it charges 50-60mph up to the house, all jump out charging the compound at FULL SPEED. They get shit done and fast. Sure, its more violent, but as far as scaring the living fuck out of your enemy, those guys truly fight like they have nothing else to live for and it shows in their propaganda. When they go out on a hit, it's balls to the fucking wall, and they get no external help, its just a handful of guys in some shitty pickup.

In general, I think this is true for a lot of guerilla fighters. They just don't have much else to fight for, while a lot of US soldiers are drunk on propaganda and an overinflated sense of skill/self.

The last real "war" seemed to be Vietnam, in which we got our asses completely kicked.

I don't think they realize how toast some of them would be in a real "guerilla" situation. The SF guys might be much tougher, but I'm convinced none of those guys spend their time talking shit on the internet since they're out fighting all the time anyways.

I would put money on most of these idiots being basic bitch grunts that worked as cooks or mechanics and just had standard weapons training. Its always those guys that have the loudest mouths and talk the most shit while having done absolutely nothing.

This, acknowledging the makeup of the working class isn't idpol because it's unifying them in the class struggle.

Everything I don't like is personally funded by Soros and probably the DNC as well
t. Definitely Not Holla Forums

I'd also like to point out that this sort of deliberately deceptive behavior is exactly the sort of behavior they accuse the Jews of.

Deeply triggering and excellent = word filter for anti white for those who don't know

And excellent is the wordfilter for probIematic

I wouldn't be too scared.

The average American foot soldier doesn't do much actual fighting, American military war doctrine emphasizes clearing areas with air strikes, artilery and tanks and then filling the vacated area with infantry. Being infantry in the Burger military is just glorified guard duty.

The more I look at it, the more the right wing is pure projection. Damn near everything, right down to calling you a cuckold.

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I remember a few weeks back when that lefty Discord owner revealed himself on Holla Forums and one of them went off on a self-congratulatory speech about how they had sympathizers in the military and the police. If what you're saying is true, then at this point they're actually just finding shit to scare themselves with

But Micah X used a Saiga 5.45 :3

The Holla Forums thread on this is a fucking laughing stock, all they have cheap insults and finger pointing. I'd get in in this if I weren't a britfag.

Get a pull-back AR user

Fuckin saved, thanks for the information, gomr8

Can confirm this, the overwhelming majority of military grunts are barely more effective in small-arms combat than the police. This is one area where the whole "American exceptionalism" thing works in our favor because these people are so delusional they think that they *must* be better fighters by virtue of being "real Americans." Not to mention all the antisocial NEET Holla Forumstards that think they're going to go "lone wolf" when SHTF.

You can but you need to be in something like a Shooting club.

Do not underestimate those with training. Combat is more than aiming and shooting. Most of these commies don't have the conditioning or the training. The time to change that is now. I say that as someone that does have the training and experience. Do not be complacent. You are never going to be good enough, so keep training.

This is one I got from 4/k/

When did I ever say that? I'm all for getting any sort of training you can.

If anything I am stating that these retards underestimate our capabilities.

They truly buy into the "the military is the only valid way to get training" meme, ignoring the countless times hajis in the desert have murdered their friends in broad daylight.

I agree that combat experience is important, but most of these people talking shit I would wager have not had it, and if they did, it was some basic patrolling where they likely didn't have to discharge their weapon. And if they did, it sure wasn't close quarters combat like the shit ISIS regularly engage in.

Two completely different worlds IMO.

Does anyone have that image that talks about how all the awful things fascists accuse jews and commies of standing for, is really just their own projection.

top. kek.

This. A good chunk of them are noguns armchair warriors talking shit. As much as I dislike the military, being a veteran implies a certain level of discipline that I doubt most of these idiots have.

Honestly both sides are probably starting from next to nothing. We need to change that.

I chuckled

whut the fuck, semi-autos are legal in UK? How???

I think you need to get some experience. American infantrymen came in contact with insurgents for the last 15 or so years. And yet, most of their deaths come from IEDs or other things. In direct contact, you cannot beat a well-trained group of soldiers or Marines just by shooting at them. You forget that the military is a machine, and if you go up against it, you will die. That's all there is to it. You can complain about air support or indirect fire capabilities all you want, but the fact is that if you don't "cheat" to win, you won't win. In the Army, common practice is to go 3:1 ratio when getting into contact. Unless you ambush them, you will always be at a disadvantage. I'm not saying give up, but you don't know what you're talking about.

Only shotguns and .22s. This gun with slugs? That's okay. An SKS? That's not allowed!

That video

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If semi-auto shotguns with removable mags are legal over there, I'd recommend a VEPR-12. Relatively inexpensive and rugged as fuck. Mags are a bit pricy though.

This is all implying that they have logistical support from the actual military. Any sort of combat with reactionaries at home is going to be against rogue militia-types.

You mentioned the military. I thought this is what you were saying.

Yes, and currently they are better prepared and trained than you, though most of them are still fat nobodies. Be careful of those that are heavily staffed by former combat soldiers. They are not just dumb idiots who don't know how to get things done. They are aware that they need supplies, so should you. Do not underestimate your enemy.

Different user, here. Though I get what you're saying.

And not all of us are starting from scratch. Been shooting since I was a teenager, and I know a handful of vets who are lefties.

Better be getting some training in. I hope you're fit as well. We're going to need all the bodies we can get if shit goes down, and I'm starting to suspect it will. Some people I know have told me that right-wing terrorism is going to be the big thing for the next few years, or at least it seems like they'r heavily preparing for it.

I'm not a fatass but could be more fit. As far as training goes I'm not really sure where to start. I go to the range in full-autist battle gear and do reload drills and such, but I'm out in the sticks and don't even know how to start looking for comrades to practice maneuvers and whatnot.

There was a guy that posted a YT channel, but he hasn't updated in a bit. I personally don't have time to teach, but reloads and such aren't the most important things, and neither is gear. Get fit, and I think that's a good start. How many men do you have with you that seem combat ready or close to it?

Only one who's a full-lefty. I'm in the south, not a lot of options :/

I have another friend who likes guns, but he's a BernieBro. Not sure if that's worth pursuing.

Radicalizing is always worth it. If not, get in contact with some uni leftists and tell them it's for self-defense at first, then slowly turn them.

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Which state do you live in because you might be able to join the John Brown Gun Club and get at least get some training redneckrevolt.org/contact

Where in the south?

Look, I'm not trying to be sexist, but the vast majority of women can't hack it. Fuck, the vast majority of men can't hack it, which is why I asked him if he had people that would be salvageable. And before you talk about the YPJ, those girls get hit all the fucking time and have horrible attrition rates, not the best when you can have an all-man unit. That doesn't mean there is no room for women-only units, but putting sub-par soldiers into a unit puts the rest in danger.

Easily offended brats don't belong in combat in the first place. Congratulations on disqualifying yourself.

The banner is the exact kind of stupid we don't need 2bh

Got I hate newfags

You don't see a problem with this?

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I would, if I believed that's what they were doing.
What I'm actually seeing is surface level messaging to attract newcomers and present the differences in their platform from other militant groups

That's exactly what that sign is doing.

Gee, and their platform seems like idpol, then, because I don't see a single economic message up there. And none of that is going to attract newcomers that aren't already socialists.

Yeah, fucking awful

Also lol at you thinking a banner is their whole platform

Yeah, and that's idpol as fuck, because apparently when you say "all workers", people might not think it means "all workers", no we have to virtue signal to the idpolers because they might get offended.

If I was a guy observing this, that would be the only thing I see and functionally, their whole platform. I don't care, I already know about their shit, but this isn't going to get you any friends.

acknowledging the makeup of the working class isn't idpol because it's unifying them in the class struggle

What are you on about, that is their main criticism of the policy and capitalism.

Lol are you joking? Being ok with minorities is the most basic-ass filter you need for forming this kind of group in the US. Idk if you're not a burger or just very naive, but there's no fucking way you form this group and don't filter out the kind of people who would be triggered by the banner language

Yep, sounds like Holla Forums

The working class doesn't need to be divided up like that. When you say working class, we know what you mean. You don't need to tell me the races included. I already know that. And it's untrue that they are displaying the makeup of the working class. They did, after all, forget white people. Face it, it's stupid idpol shit and they shouldn't keep doing it.


Most people, even non-socialists, are okay with minorities. Giving them a special banner so that you can show how tolerant you are is idpol, and if you keep filtering people who don't like idpol, you wind up with the tumblr crowd.

Untrue. The working class IS already divided. This needs to be actively worked against. You're working from the presumption that there are no divisions currently and that this creates new ones

This tells me you really, really have no idea the selection bias you are imposing by creating what is essentially a gun club in the rural united states. I've lived these ares, it is way more necessary than you believe

Yes, by ignoring idiotic differences and declaring all people workers. I don't need you to tell me that you don't hate gay people at every opportunity.

Idpol maintains divisions, and without it there would be no division as people unite for the economic struggle.


I live in the rural US, and most people here aren't racist, but definitely don't like being told about fucking trannies and gays and how they have a responsibility for shit they haven't done.

This conversation is ultimately pointless because we're just talking past each other. You believe the focus of the banner, and your main takeaway from it, is that the working class is divided into certain groups. I believe the focus of the banner, and my main takeaway from it, is that currently disparate sections of the working class need to come back together.

We can't make each other see this through the other framework so we're essentially at an impasse.

Not what I said. I said that specifically creating a militant gun club in those areas will select for far right leaning people. I don't believe that the areas where 3%ers operate are filled to the brim with far right reactionaries, but I do believe that politicized groups like them that form in those areas tend to be far right reactionaries.

And a simple way to filter them out and welcome other is to focus on the economic aspect and socialism, which those people detest to begin with.

Is that really true? I'm not even trying to be combative here, but it seems the objection to socialism or leftist economics in general is:
1. They think it's just taxes and muh big gubmint
2. That minorities will also benefit from them
There are plenty of far right people who come to the conclusion that x socialist program would work only in a uniform ethnostate

Yeah, and they can get called stupid when they bring it up. The best way to get these people on our side is by convincing them, not excluding them. At the end of the day you will need to convince a majority of the people that socialism is necessary.

How do you stop those people from making up the majority of the group and subverting the cause?

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Are you asking how to stop the majority of the people there becoming nazbols? I guess by realizing that nazbols are a meme, and second by simply reading some theory, because the nazbol position doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

Nazbols? Literal nazbols are a meme but the "I want universal healthcare but without blacks being a drain on the system" is not an inherently nazbol position and not a meme

Yeah, but socialism isn't just universal healthcare, is it?

I'm using a specific illustrative example so we don't get bogged down in generalities

I know, but the fact is that you are describing a very small part of the socialist population, much less that of the south.

Texas. Without revealing my location too much I'm about equidistant from Houston / SA. I've reached out to the SRA group in Houston, haven't heard back yet. Have not contacted Redneck Revolt in SA yet though.

I don't think that position is either rare or fundamentally socialist. I think socialist rhetoric is naturally appealing to working class individuals, but that without an understanding of theory/etc. it can be wielded in explicitly non-socialist ways (with fascism being an extreme example)

I live in Texas too, friend. I'm in DFW, though. Who knows, we might meet at some point.

Which is why you need to study theory.

Absolutely, but this is an unrealistic prerequisite for recruitment on the ground level

Yeah, but not unrealistic once you have people join. Handing out simple pamphlets would work, or simply making a rule that bigotry won't be tolerated.

Hey, so am I!
I hate that I have to work downtown because everything in the suburbs are falling apart.

Weren't a lot of militants in both Russia, Spain, and other rebellions straight up illiterate?

Liberals and other bourgeois reactionaries cannot be trusted. Just look up the Black Hundreds.

Ok, but this whole conversation was a contention about the correct introductory message, not the internal messaging post-recruitment

Would such an organization have any place for an aging, partially-disabled ex airman? It would suck to have to watch the revolution from home.

Literacy rate is higher in the US, but yeah I don't think you should rely on good understanding of theory when engaging in recruitment messaging

Damn, so we definitely might see each other.

Introductory messaging should be an economic one.

People who don't live in the suburbs have this misconception that suburbia is nuclear families with white picket fences. They have no idea that most of them are like fucking low-density ghettos.

Oh, I'm not that other guy. Sorry, user.

Institutional knowledge is probably more important than some basic combat skills. So yes, definitely. You wouldn't be in combat, but there is always room for staff at all sorts of levels, or even just trainers. That all depends on the group that chooses to take you, though. I would find a job for you, though.

It's cool. Where do you go shooting? Or have not gone yet?

…but the conversation we JUST had deriving from that premise led to the conclusion that purely economic messaging is dangerous to those who don't understand theory. So then you said we should teach them theory after joining, to which I replied that we're not talking about the messaging after they join, we're talking about the messaging before they join.

We've literally been over this already

So what's that, 3 TX lefties? A regular army. :P

To which I would reply, why only talk about one? If they haven't joined yet, it's not an issue, and once they have joined, it's rather straightforward dispelling their ideas or kicking them out. Idpol on the other hand prevents people who don't hold racist ides from joining because they think you're only about that.

Because you don't want those with ingrained racist idpol overwhelming the numbers from the start and fundamentally affecting the make-up of the group before you have a chance to dispel anything

Back to r/the_donald

I work 60 hours a week, so unfortunately I have not yet.

But logic dictates that if all those people really existed, they would have already formed their own group. The fact of the mater is that super racist socialists don't exist in enough numbers for it to matter.

That's a shame. There's a good range in Mansfield that allows FMJ ammo and all sorts of things, so if you want to check it out sometime, I think you'd definitely like it.

My premise is not that these are "super racist socialists", but people who could be attracted to base level socialist rhetoric (most working people) and racist. It is a somewhat large axiom amongst the left in modern first world countries, after all, that the biggest objection to socialism among the working class is from deliberate obfuscation and subversion by governing bodies.

Thanks, user, I'll look into it.

Yes, and I'd say that attracting these people is the only way you're going to win. Their racism can be stripped later, and since they're not obsessed with race, won't be a huge issue as it isn't currently in the south.

No problem. What guns do you own?

…so what about my "overwhelm" argument? Pick up too many and the group constituency changes and you may not have the position/power to decide the direction

Holla Forums BTFO

Well, the goal is to pick up all of them, and I assume your club has leadership. Plus, you said most of them weren't virulent racists to begin with. I still fail to see the problem. Seems you're just making a very hypothetical argument for something that doesn't actually exist.

Lol, this is me comrade. Not trying to be a downer, just saying we have a lot of work to do.

Leadership is meaningless if they do not have meaningful authority, and this isn't a deeply structured, ingrained societal fixture. It's a relatively new organization taking its first steps

This is the most ironic webm I've ever seen posted. You'll know why if you know about the source material.

Holla Forums is wrong about everything

holy shit is it finally fucking happening?

This triggers me. Love this movie.

Red neck revolt are a great group of people, very friendly really. They just really like guns.

We're on the brink of revolution. I give it 10-15 years, before it breaks out.

Definitely. Might even be sooner.

Get psyched, comrades.

When redneck revolt team up with a new black panthers the time will be nigh. What are the legalities of a Scottish person moving to the US to join a militia?

What's the source and how is it ironic?

I can see it starting in Mexico as well. People are pissed off, Marxist government will be really popular. Plus most of the population won't side with the current government even Narcos will fight against the state if it happens.

I'm not sure if you're, but the new black panthers are nothing like the old ones. They're basically black Nazis.

It comes from the movie There Will Be Blood which was based on a Upton Sinclair novel

Problem is, if the Narcos are the ones to take the lead of the insurrection, Mexico could as well ending up as Ancapistan.

I know a couple militant black leftist groups have sprung up. Here in the TX the Huey P Newton Gun club has chapters in DFW and I think in Houston as well.

So the people who have to deal with low I.Q. inbred migrants don't like them? Shocking. Also you can't use the way cops vote to determine the opinions of lawmakers.

It's also anticapitalist as fuck. Basically a biography of a Randian "man of industry" and and all of the misery that would entail in reality.

I also know a lot of right-libertarians and ancaps that idolize Daniel Plainview unironically -_-

Fuck yeah

Although, it would have to be a legit return to the original BPP platform. The current organization that runs under the name of New BPP is into weird shit like said.

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The right waved theirs around for years, and the right-wingers I know are already panicked at the idea of even unarmed militant leftists. When fuckin' liberals do peaceful marches, there are people calling for hoses and the national guard.

Thanks for these helpful labels.

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Don't respond to Holla Forumstards. Just don't. They completely derailed the last /leftyk/, and I'm sure they will continue to try to interfere with any organizing on here.

On leddit, I'd say to go ahead and argue because normies will see the discussion and learn, but on here it's just not worth it.

oh so now I'm the nazi?

This

1523806 tried to shill for cops literally supporting Nazis. It took every ounce of energy in me, to not bite the bait.

Could be worse.

Imagine unironically idealizing a civilization the writers have outright stated is the most miserable hellhole imaginable. Then imagine comparing your favored political leader to their brutal, genocidal dictator who's shenanigans basically created the chaos cult and the subsequent slow downfall of humanity.

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>>1523807

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While the Imperium of Man is depicted as a bad place, the Emperor is almost unambiguously intended to be a good guy. Kinda like Napoleon crossed with Einstein and the Pope. Eveything we're meant to hate about the Imperium started long after he was interned on the Golden Throne.

Why is the YPJ/YPG separated?

Is there any literature that prompted this or is it more to do with local culture?

Why/When are gender segregated combat units better?

oops forgot to remove shitposting flag

genuinely curious about this

t. low i.q. inbred nonimmigrant
This is tour brain on idpol

Something to do with their brand of feminist ideology. Women in the YPJ don't have sex with men either.

Women are, on average, weaker and less able to do the physical part of combat, this means performance is degraded by mixing in women. This is not purely hypothetical either, the USMC and the Army have done research on this, and that's why women were generally not put in combat units. That being said, we should use what we can get, and if all you can get are women, then you better use them, but if you have a choice, pick your best first and put women in their own units, so as to ensure that they are able to conduct operations without sacrificing the ability of a male unit. Or at least that's the way I see it. Do expect to see high female attrition rates, though.

I assume sexual contact is one reason.

No, he wasn't a good guy. The Emperor spent the pre-Heresy period slaughtering his way across the galaxy with the Primarchs whom he left to the mercies of Chaos before rediscovering them. At least, that's how the lore used to go. I don't know what Games Workshop has done to it in the last several years.

post pics or gtfo.

Also, comissar cletus when? :^)

Reminder that units should be comprised of individuals at similar skill and ability levels only, whether it's a mixed unit or not.

And you can fuck off with your bogeyman.


Let's face it user, controlling miserable villages in the middle of the godforsaken jungle isn't much, unless you gonna argue that otherwise they would be controlled by narcos or something.

You and I both know that the Zapatistas started out as traditional guerrilla fighters and were on the way of being exterminated by government death squads, like just about any Latin American movement connected to Indians and campesinos. Rather than die for nothing, they went postmodern and realized cameras could be more powerful than guns, and thus we saw a new and unusual situation: they're allowed run their little experiment on a bunch of sympathetic villages which didn't need to be militarily taken and the central government never gave a shit about in the first place, and the world's attention prevents the government from disappearing them all.

I like the Zapatistas, I really do. They did the smart thing: rather than die fighting and accomplishing nothing, they decided to live posing for foreign photographers and accomplish a little bit. But at the end of the day, it doesn't change what I said: they couldn't take an enchilada stand left unattended.

i would but this is Holla Forums

man of excuses, are we? m8 the worst that'll ever happen is that people shitpost about it.

Any posts like this false flagger need to be forwarded to the members of the gun club. They need to know that there are people who will try this shit, if they don't already. Holla Forums currently has a 700+ post thread about them, and /k/ has a 250+ post one, both full of people proving that the right only likes guns when they're exclusively in the hands of conservatives. The fascists are insanely butthurt because they're finally realizing that they won't be able to just roll over everyone who isn't white without meeting stiff resistance, and that's bad for their egos.

Flag checks out

Not really.

The emperor was a genocidal dick who thought nothing of murdering entire planets because one of their leaders did something he didn't approve of.

suppose u right

T H I C C

Those thighs make me want to seize the means of production, ya know what I'm sayin'

That's a huge bitch.

Honestly, fat is alright, but crocs, man? Kill yourself.

Virgins spotted

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/118734580#p118734580

Found a thread on it

I just watched this in Holla Forums

What the fuck?
feminism at it again to divide the left and leave it crippled just like they did in OWS.

she needs to clean her room

It's a Holla Forumsyp channel
Think HWNDU retards

Obvious polfag is obvious.

Boston antifa is a troll account. Saged, nothing to see here. Move along.

I thought it was so outrageous it had to be fake.
oh my blood pressure I nearly had a seizure watching that video.

Politics on imageboards was a mistake

I wouldn't be surprised if normiebook kiddos fell for it though.

Revolution will result from a prolonged period of deep capitalist crisis, unless you have some kind of deep insight into economics this is pure speculation. Then again if people like thenextrecession guy and the other marxian economists talking about the decline in the rate of profit are right then that time frame looks plausible.

I hate this so much.

I doubt any of these people are anarchists. The irony of a bunch of people who would previously be SCREAMING for gun control, are taking up guns. BUT THEN they are only even ABLE to take up arms like this specifically because the fucking Republicans are constantly stopping them from making gun control happen. They push gun control, right wingers stop it. The same people want to intimidate republicans so they take up the arms that the republicans specifically said they should be able to have.

Some of these guns look fake. The SKS that fat guy has is real though.

Redneck revolt is leftist though.

What the fuck are you sperging about? Liberals still hate guns, maybe a little less now because they think Trump is Hitler, but these are not liberals here, theyre all socialists of some kind. Redneck Revolt and John Brown Gun Club have been around for a while now explicitly advocating for the arming of the proletariat

The majority of rednecks have no class consciousness love being classcucked nationalistic racist they have no revolutionary potential.


reddit and Tumblr could fell for it.

That's nice, but they're still just authoritarians who 'after the rev' will pull up the ladder after themselves and bring in total gun bans because "the government and the economy is leftist now guys you can trust us now turn in your guns or you're a nazi"

I think rednecks can develop class consciousness and can leave the classcucked nationalism and racism easily as long as people don't mention the words communism or socialism
Yes that's how fucking classcucked Clapistan is
I feel with enough desperation people have to develop class consciousness

Are you the ayncrap that posts under thisbe flag

What? No.

Those are imaginary "struggles" used to detract from the actual struggle of worker vs capitalism. Notice what's missing from that flag, literally any mention of Marxist theory at all or the means of production. It's not a "start" at all, it's a killing blow to any actual leftists that want to be on board.

Did you even see their flag? It looks like it was downloaded off the DNC website.

That's what the vanguard is for. The proles don't care about any of that. They just want to protect themselves from fascists.

These videos are a falseflag, honestly this is so fucking devious. I have no idea how were supposed to stop this type of thing. Honestly this is a strong argument against a disorganized anarkiddie movement without leaders.

When these falseflaggers identities are exposed I hope they will go after them and teach them a lesson because this honestly does a lot of damage to the movement and is infuriating.
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Good intuition comrade your right.

Reminder not to respond to Holla Forumstards spouting iff inane bullshit.

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I have depression, not ocd

tbh the problem with the banner is not who is on it, but who is not.

fact is that the US in particular (but also the west more broadly, with much owed to American cultural hegemony) is in a place where decades of relative economic stability has seen a steady decline in "white" tribalism, but where we are now seeing a situation where people's real lived conditions are sliding backward. And after 50 years of bourgeois liberalism framing ethnic tribalism and similar (ie. "idpol") as THE way to conduct politics, white tribalism and all the reactionary baggage it entails is now seeing an upsurge because there simply are no other options visible to many people.

so while liberals may snarkily talk about "not hurting white people's feelings" and how that isn't important because of they're literally rolling in muh privilege or whatever, the reality is that if you want to get people on board, you actually do need to explicitly tell white people that they are included in these struggles as well. You can't just assume that they'll "get it" when you're talking about working class PoCs or whatever fashionable minority group, because they've been trained by decades of centre-left liberal rhetoric to understand that they are implicitly NOT included. So you need to fucking spell it out, not just to whites but also to every one else, that we are ALL in this struggle. Put the fucking words "working class whites" or your preferred nomenclature right there on the banner too along with everyone so there is no ambiguity about who solidarity includes and excludes.

Yes, it's cringey. Yes, it might make suburban liberals and even some actual leftists uncomfortable. But the symbolism of having those categories right in print beside each other IS important if you really want to get people to start seeing their shared interests across the discrete demographics that capitalist culture divides people into.

Shatters their narrative that the left wing are pushovers and when the "Day of the Rake" comes there will be no real resistance.

That 'there being no real resistance' part is actually integral to their whole plan and facing the historical reality that Commies actually do tend to beat Fashies is open conflict frightens them.

Too bad it was all airshit

PRAISE kek

You're like a week behind on your meme-ing. /k/ already refuted those accusations. Catch up stormnigger

Best way, really. ;)

All of those guns are airsoft guns

see

Literally the definition of terrorism. Just come here as a normal person, acquire citizenship legally (it will take many years). Get off this board. Become a normie in all facets of your life.

Then, and only then, should you consider joining a U.S. militia.

Slippery slope fallacy. GTFO

Forreal. I hate idpol as much as the next dude, but some people here think even mentioning the need to defend more vulnerable workers while still putting class at the center of everything is idpol.

Interestingly, by omitting white people as a group that has to work together, they imply that this whole directive is being given/run by white people, denying all listed groups agency.

Looking at that crowd, 'big' and 'fat' are the operative words.

OMG this just last night MOM told me that she would call the cops if i didnt stop poo pooing in the sink

little does that bitch know that i have practiced with the blade for years

those capitalist PIGS woudnt stand a chance agaiinst someone with REAL combat potential