Linux

Classical Marxist
Windows 10 LTSB for Vidya + Debian for everything else
I would drop Windows in a heartbeat, but almost none of my games are on Linux.

Mint is the basically the best distro for desktop users. For servers I use Ubuntu/Debian.

Cringe

Mint is an insecure piece of shit with a DE full of memory leaks.

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Psh, nothing proprietary, kid.

fuck off porky

Oh, do enlighten us as to your ways, superior being.

regular Ubuntu with the Amazon stuff taken out.
Former ML with a fondness for markets and admiration for LeftComs.

Sorry guys I don't traffic in CP so I am not concerned with state infiltration when I am sending emails to friends. Also memory leaks are irrelevant as it is no longer 1990.

peak lifestylism

I know. Just wanting to try some new things and Qubes is a more secure environment.

Nazbol being retarded as usual.

Could you post your web history and cookies for us?
if you have nothing to hide it shouldn't be a problem.

lubuntu with i3 wm

If you're going to argue that, then just use windows.

Kek

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Why would you run Windows 10 for anything? Windows 7 has better compatibility for most games and spies on you less.

Remains to be seen, famalam. Worth a try, though. I thought you meant it had virtualization capability. I see it's much more interesting now.

this too.

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Gotta have DX12, and Microshit won't let you use their controllers on your computer now unless you have Windows 10, which makes it much harder to play racing games.
LTSB lets you take out most of the spying. Additionally Microsoft IPs are blocked via firewall, and all privacy settings are enabled.

Actually, you don't have to have DX12.

machine 1: Hardened Gentoo as a base system virtualizing either

1. Windows 10 for software exclusive to it like Photoshop or vidya
2. Arch riced in the spirit of elementary OS

machine 2: Qubes OS for work related things

machine 3 (hybrid laptop with touchscreen): Ubuntu GNOME

lmao, this literally doesn't do shit

G27, fam.

forgot theory: communization

It boosts my performance a good bit. Every frame counts when you're broke as hell and can't upgrade.

Eh, it's still better than stock Windows 10. Any information they get out of me will just be me clicking through steam or got and playing games.

do it like me and just run Windows 10 in a VM with 95% performance. If you have modern hardware, which I assume you do if you use Windows for specific software or vidya, then it shouldn't pose a problem.

wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF

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Meant to say GoG, not got.

Get out.

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you should note that blocking their servers wont work, they register new ones to circumvent exactly this. isolating your use of it like you describe is the best option if you really have to.

it aint that easy fam

Just watch anime instead.

If anything it's worse. They still have full telemetry, but now they also know you are trying to avoid their data collection.

Linux doesn't save you from state infiltration, but at least you don't open up your anus to your corporate overlords willingly, you get control over your own system and you actually have a chance to protect yourself against private attackers.

You don't need 2016 hardware wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF#Prerequisites

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You also can run your main system on your mobo's graphic chip and use your GPU for virtualizing Windows

there's no excuse but laziness

I don't know yet, but I'd like to use a linux OS for a new computer. Where do I go to go from being only somewhat better at computer than most normal fags, to Lain.
>inb4 lainchan
been there and didn't see too much info tbh

Unfortunately my CPU doesn't support virtualization. I might buy a new CPU, but I'm not too impressed with Intel's offerings or AMD's new series please don't kill me.

You don't need to go to Lain levels to use a free OS that respects your freedom. I recomend Debian, or Debian-based operating systems because everything with them is a breeze. It's easy to install, and if you want to go full-retard on protecting your shit, you can go FDE and a /boot on a portable USB disc. I did that for shits and giggles when I found out I could. You can go way beyond that, though:

grepular.com/Protecting_a_Laptop_from_Simple_and_Sophisticated_Attacks

Try Ubuntu.
It's really easy, and it's a great way to get into Linux.

If you want to ease into it start with some version of Ubuntu that doesn't use Unity (such as Ubuntu GNOME, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu), if you want a "hardcore" experience try setting up Arch (in a VM, if you want). Nowadays using Linux is piss easy, I recently installed elementary OS on my girlfriend's laptop and she's a technological retard.

If you want to get used to linux or try it, you could make a live usb/cd and try any distro before you install it. I'd start with ubuntu.

The point remains you need alot of RAM for the VM, and theoretically two graphics cards.

But then you cant play games available on linux on linux, you have to use windows
I hear theres some way to pass a gpu to a vm and back to the host but only with amd cards and maybe he, like me, has an nvidia one. plus at that point I might be lazy enough to just only play linux games.

Download an 'easy' linux distro
get used to its gui and things about it like package management, etc, use it
try to learn some other stuff like how to use cli, cool command line programs, etc
read the manual
????
Fauux riced DWM stali

Ubuntu has a lot of shitware loaded on it that sells you ads and phones home. I would avoid it.

Most Linux distros are stupidly easy to use. The only real challenge is learning a new interface (if you go with a GNOME or Unity distro), GPU drivers if you use Nvidia, and installing 3rd party programs (not usually necessary).

I recommend:
Fedora or Ubuntu GNOME if you want to use GNOME3 (google it to see what it looks like, watch a couple videos).
Ubuntu if you want to use Unity.
KDE Neon or OpenSuse if you want to use KDE5.
Xubuntu if you want to use XFCE.

I don't recommend Debian, because it has outdated software.

That isn't the case anymore.

You can use testing repos.

dont listen to this user, use debian and MATE

That's kinda the point user.

True although RAM is still cheap as fuck. But it's an extra investment, that's true. I'm just assuming that if somebody cares enough about video games to use Windows, they also care enough to invest into a modern high-end system.

I don't game on Linux anyways, I keep it all contained within Windows.

Not true. As long as you avoid Unity you have nothing to worry, you can opt-out of anything that concerns you (but shouldn't) and anything related to suspicious data collection is opt-in.

Xubuntu with no battery backup and an emulated XP for games. It probably doesn't work for new shit, but so what? New shit sucks ass. Games stopped being innovative fifteen years ago.

t. Marxist

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Whoa, thanks famrades.

elementary OS is also great for beginners and is all about the aesthetics. It uses Pantheon.

No problem, friend. Always good to get more people interested in freedom.

That's complicated for a beginner.

I forgot about MATE, it's ugly as shit though.

It serves a purpose for servers, not desktop

MATE isn't ugly if you make everything black.
Besides, MATE is for all the autism functionality it has, it's not about aesthetics.

Oh yeah.

user should also check out Solus, Elementary, and maybe even Deepin for their alternative Desktop Environments. They are pretty user friendly, but be warned that they could have less support than a big, mainstream DE.

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No, it isn't. You literally install the testing version and the sources.list already has testing installed.

Oh, you don't have to change the repos? Then yeah, Debian Testing is OK. Still not as friendly as Ubuntu or other distros.

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Anarcho Syndicalist

Str8 Debian for my desktop and classic kali on my portable devices

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why do people do this

Read this
linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
Great way to get started with linux and you won't have to use something shitty like Ubuntu.

At least they where honest enough to come forward about it unlike other companies, i'll give them that.

way to go, lads

sankyu

i fancy myself a hacker cracker type, bringing glorious communism one leaked email at a time!

Truth is I heard it's a really vulnerable distro and I like to try my hand at improving my security, a little challenge

You're right about the games. Oddly find myself getting back into roguelikes after dropping the genre years ago. Been having a blast with ADoM, SIL, and CoQ. Plus it motivated me to try making my own for fun.

Do you have a cute femmine dick

I'm actually an older man with body hair and do manly things offline. I am only kawaii here.

Market Socialist
openSUSE

Posadist

Tails

As your day to day distro?

That's not really a good idea by the way, you should try having a distro you use for normal good goy stuff and tails for buying nukes

That makes no sense, user. If you want to learn how to improve your security use Hardened Gentoo

t. pol pot

wat

Agreed. I just use a PS2 for gaming now. I find a kind of 'zen' from not caring about new shit.

Debian isn't outdated, but I'd agree with you beginners shouldn't try it since getting the latest packages and managing repositories is confusing. Not to mention the cluster fuck that is their website.

Glad I switched to Linux months before Windows 10. I really don't miss it, but I will say the Windows desktop environment is strangely 'comfy'

The ideology strangely matches up

y tho
y not just download legit windows 7 and then crack it

kek

I have tried it, I only use kali to test my ability at finding vulnerabilities whether it's on the machine i'm using at the time or in a lab

Xubuntu 16.04, came from Manjaro XFCE

I'm a "classical liberal" (equal rights and oportunities, basically)
so a Nazi by today's standards, it seems

epic ideology

Dude, these "classical liberals" are not what they claim to be, even if you are. I mean, just look at Dave Rubin, doing videos for fucking Prager U, or people defending anything Trump does because it makes SJWs cry (though that's admittedly funny as hell). Classical liberal really just means classcucked to hell and back.

Laptop : Debian
Desktop : Ubuntu (+Windows 8 for gaemung)

No, Xfce is for all the autism functionality it has. MATE is a shitty meme DE.

I'm new to Holla Forums (I've spent some time in Holla Forums, barely) so that's why I used quotations, and I'm bad at labeling myself. I just came here to learn and see for myself how's the board.

I don't defend everything Trump says, but I think the media is overblowing things a lot. Also, it's funny as fuck to see SJWs screeching

Polite sage for off topic

most people around here agree with that tbh.

Ubuntu isn't shitty. There's a reason it's standard for businesses to use. It's stable, reasonably up-to-date, easy, and it's not like it's missing anything.

we got a genius here

how

Ideology: mutualist
Distro: Ubuntu studio

You don't have to label yourself. Learn ideas, but don't let them define you as a person. Don't worry about offtopic, this entire thread is really just a thinly-veiled Holla Forums thread. Hope you like it here.

Most of the problems people have with Ubuntu are:
That was fixed IIRC, and.
Which is up to debate.

At least Ubuntu derivatives like Lubuntu, Xubuntu, LXLE and KDE Neon are very good.

Nigga…

Ubuntu studio + XFCE is life

both claim to be about freedom in some shape, both are not due to management

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That's not Classical Liberalism at all.
most Classical Liberals from the late 18th century and forwards were Social Darwinists.
European liberals concerned with the general welfare quickly moved towards Social Democracy and Socialism.

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Thanks for the correction, mate.
I'll read more about it.

No businesses are using RHEL for desktops. They use Ubuntu.

I have no idea what you think is limiting about Arch, but the attitude of the GNOME devs is hilariously reminiscent of a stagnant political party, and it's the main Fedora DE.

It keeps your operating system from storing anything. They call me paranoid, you know.

>M-more like Noobuntu, amirite. ;_; Nobody loves me

The devs/admins are cunts and pretty much said they don't care about what the users care about and say and Arch is their own little project to toy around with - it's a totalitarian fuck up in that sense

Mint was a very nice distro for begginers, but it's not quite good anymore. Besides the whole security fiasco, you have:

That's a retarded reason. What are they supposed to do? Their job is updating the repos, and that's what they do.

I bet most of you are actually on wangblows.
A screenshot image of your desktop is a basic requirement when you post on these threads.

Mint was the first linux distro that really stuck for me. Sad to see it went that direction, but glad I stopped using it years ago.

Fortunately, there's a lot a good beginner friendly distros.

The list goes on and on…

manjaro is easier than arch, but it actually has a number of quirks that make it harder than a mainstream distro.

>[email protected]/* */:~$ uname -a
Linux machine 4.9.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.13-1 (2017-02-27) x86_64 GNU/Linux

Oh well, anyone, whether it's the state or corporate lizard people, that is surveiling my shit is probably pretty bored seeing what games I play and what vanilla porn I watch.

when it comes to linux distros i prefer debian because its the most stable and just works. however i have a windows 10 box and 2 apple computers running macos as well. i don't think about fucking ideology all the time, debian's approach is pretty leftist though, i'd say.

We'll get our revenge for Rosa yet, you socdem scumbag.

worst slave mentality tbh, you might as well just kill yourself now.
that being said using linux doesn't protect against government surveillance, corporate data mining and hacking attacks much better if you don't follow basic security guidelines and keep your system updated.

Masturbatory lifestylism

That's really fascinating. Thanks for the link, comrade.

No it's not? Some people who contribute to the community get permabanned just because the devs don't agree on a small issue with them. You get permabanned for going against the "Arch way" ffs, that means if you use any installer to help install Arch and they catch wind you're gone.

as a small example toofishes.net/blog/real-story-behind-arch-linux-package-signing/

rosa was social democrat herself, go learn a thing or two about the worker's movement in germany before you waste your energy throwing hate and insults at other leftists you don't know. i vote linke and am traditional social democrat and communist just like rosa was.

Since Microsoft stopped updating Windows 7 about a couple of years ago, what should I switch to in order to avoid all of the nasty viruses that will inevitably swarm any computer with Windows 7?

Ubuntu would be my recommendation. Test out a live-CD first to see if it all works correctly on your system.

This has been asked a couple of times in this thread already, I refer to

I recommend Debian. By far one of the very best operating systems out there. Might be hard for a beginner, but easier than a lot of the hobby distros people use. They also respect your freedom despite some questionable decisions made recently.

Former MLM turned Ultra
Xubuntu with StumpWM

If you're computer is not so good on resources, Xubuntu. Easy install tbqh (if you've got the money order a jdrive with either 32bit or 64bit on it).
If you're computer is good on resources, I still recommend Xubuntu, but regular Ubuntu (with a different Desktop Environment (like GNOME or KDE) even) is a good choice. Test each out first (before installing) and see what you like.

Not to be "that guy" but I much prefer OpenBSD.

With all the information that has come to light about how the CIA basically uses Linux as its fucktoy, it makes more sense than ever before to have an OS where security is enabled by default. No "securing your X install" blog posts to read and copy config files from, nothing you can screw up. You just boot it and it's good to go. I appreciate that.

It's also much truer to UNIX. Lots of configs and APIs are still just files, and the man pages actually tell you how things work. You don't need to dig through forums to find answers to your questions.

What about OS-specific programs though, like video games or game design tools? Once I switch operating systems, how will I be able to use those?

/gentoo/man here

partial to mutualism, geolibertarianism, left-wing-market-anarchism, distributed blockchain anarcho-crypto-communism

>>>Holla Forums and never come back.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Linux is actually more /unix/ than unix itself is, both the original versions and BSD. It implements many of its functions as virtual files in sysfs and procfs, making it simpler, more plan9-ish, and having ~200 fewer system calls than BSD.

Are you me?

I use gentoo on desktop and arch on laptop.

Mutualism, left-wing-market-georgist-anarchism,

jesus christ how horrifying

That depends on what you want to use and your hardware. You'll need to go into detail.

Literally Gentoo.

Isn't the main reason for BSD's security the fact that nobody fucking uses it? There might be hundreds of exploits known to secret services that are just generally unknown.

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see

Me: communization
Distro: Windows 7

I don't care at all for which operating system to use. I honestly just stick to Windows because it's all I've ever known and it does what I want it to.

but that takes effort

such is life under capitalism, if you want quality, you either need to do it yourself or pay somebody to do it

Security through obscurity is a thing, but to date, all of two remote exploits have been discovered in OpenBSD. The time needed to test for these things might explain it, but they're also notoriously anal about their coding practices.

That's nice. It's easy to overlook that when things like pulseaudio and systemd start creeping into more and more everyday tasks.

shit. I try to use JACK, but it's extremely inconvenient and barely anything works with it.

actually pretty cool, but suffering from an ungodly case of scope creep.

Just use ALSA

I use Mint on one PC, and windows 8 on another for muh vidya games.

I'm a generic communist, I don't feel the need to commit to any subset of communist theory.

Try KDE. You will not reget it.

Die Linke is reformist though. It has a few actual socialists like Wagenknecht, but otherwise it's mostly reformists.

Kubuntu & Council Communism.

I don't use Linux because of ideological reasons though, I am just someone who cares an awful lot about customization and usability. Linux ist just a superior operating system, at least for someone like me. It has nothing to do with ideology.

hardened gentoo with deblobbed kernel.
not harder to use than regular gentoo, which is not harder to use than archlinux. no systemdick tho.

Libertarian socialist
debian on my laptop
and a desktop that dualboots debian and windows 10.
all my hardware is 2007-2010.

Debian on a laptop, Void on a raspberry pi.

Quasi-Communalist, but still have problems with naturalism.

social democrat
kubuntu

CentOS (because of software support)
Marxist-Leninist

Uh, I have to stop using Kubuntu now…

Me: ancom
Distro: Gentoo

Not sure what this means. I dual boot a pirated Windows so I can play hentai VNs and Overwatch.

marxist-leninist, ubuntu.

It was a joke, you sperg.

peak autism

oh and

opensuse
win10

once upon a time I installed gentoo but then realized I don't actually give a fuck

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Ideology : anarchism
Os : Ubuntu,Windows and Plan9

Anything that doesn't have systemd
Gentoo and lately AntiX

Why it is so important ?

Anarcho-Communism

Anarchist, Arch

suckless.org/sucks/systemd
See for yourself

That's just the support forums though. They don't want to deal with people asking dumb questions.

I guarantee you that the CIA has BSD vulns as well.

They are literally the idealists of the software world and think what was convenient in the seventies should be worshiped religiously. No one cares about their autism except for a kind of decent window manager they made. All systemd does is better implement what was already being jury rigged into distros.
It is mediocre, but still better than sysvinit.

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Sure, but it's also known that the developers of systemd (affecting most Linux distro's) work for Red Hat and Red Hat's biggest costumers are the American agencies.

did you even read the fucking link
Is that a bad thing?
Ye because there don't exist tens of different alternatives to sysvinit.

Runit is also better than sysvinit, and it's also not a bloated turd being made a dependency for everything.

Yes, and like that dead lolbert Uriel, they care more about stirring drama than saying anything meaningful. The PID 1 thing has been debunked since forever ago, for example, only the bare minimum necessary runs in PID 1; on top of that is the bloat meme, in spite of the fact that system is modular and you can leave out anything superfluous that you don't want. No end user distro actually includes every module by default.
Idealists in that they care more about ideals than what is useful. Their IRC "client" is a good example. No one wants to write pure C to configure a fucking program, either.
Then replace systemd with one.

runit also has packages for major distros.

The point you made was that systemd is the only viable option and also a good option.
Still fallacy, whether the suckless devs write efficient programs or not has nothing to do with wether systemd is good.
Also you seem to be implying that OpenRC fore example uses C for it's configs while it uses bash.

No, my point was that it exists for a reason and is replacing what was cancer to begin with.
Honestly, like 80% of systemd hate is personal animosity toward Poettering, which in turn is largely butthurt about PulseAudio. I don't like him either, but fair is fair.
They're still lying faggot ideologues.
They would probably hate OpenRC too. And most of Gentoo's homegrown software actually, especially portage, because even though it's pretty good and has a positive reputation.

Programs like Crusader Kings II, or Maya. I have the hardware for it.

Maya runs natively tho.

What claims did they lie about?

Also I'm not against or pro suckless, the original reason I posted their article was because it sums up how systemd is ruining the linux open source ideology and the *nix ideology in general.

"Do one thing and do it well", was not just some random Tumblr hippy quote, this ideology (I know you hate ideologies, but bare with me) is what made *nix *nix and not Windows. While you may think that Linux becoming more and more like Windows is a great new refreshing idea. it turns out that systemd is the true Cancer and that the 'let one thing do fucking everything' ideology has proven over and over again to cause tremendous lulz.
For more info en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svchost.exe

I just said. They were pretty common misconceptions when systemd was first gaining ground, but they never bothered correcting them.
They are defending an ideal that most of the free software world doesn't care about to begin with. If you want something that adheres closely to the Unix philosophy, you do not want GNU/Linux, plain and simple.

I assume so, guess it's time to move to BSD

Ideology is ^

I run lubuntu on my old machine(s) just because it's more lightweight, that's basically it.

reactOS

bumpo

ML i run arch linux on my desktop and manjaro on my laptop.

Market socialism
elementaryOS for the family comp, because the wife is used to Mac
Kali for work because work

kororaproject.org/

I like Cinnamon because it's the best middle ground between KDE and XFCE, and it doesn't have any problems with hdmi to the big screen tearing like XFCE.
Fuck compiling compton.

I used to like Mandriva based distros like Mageia and Rosa, but Fedora just has better repos.

Sometimes I hang out in coffee shops with a stack of Fedora fedoras. People ask me, "user, what does a classy gentleman such as yourself need with such a surplus of fedoras?" To which I reply, "Nothing at all, sir/madam! In fact why don't you take one?" To which they unanimously oblige, upgrading their wardrobe in the process and unbeknownst to them receiving the option to upgrade their computing experience. You see, my Fedora fedoras are fedoras with a flash drive stored in the brim. On each Fedora fedora flash drive is everything an Enlightened User Practicing Home OR Industrial Computing (that spells EUPHORIC) needs to install and begin using Fedora, the most supreme gentleOS, while demonstrating the utmost style and class with its fedora packaging.

I have an rpi3 with RecalBox on it, hooked to a CRT, and 6000 roms and isos for every era from Atari to PS1.
I really don't need more videogames than that.
If I wanted to though, I could use Steam and GOG on linux just fine.

Advertisements in the Start Menu, Applications, Notifications, literally every surface of Windows 10 has a Campbell's Fucking Soup ad dancing on it

How do classcucks live amidst this PURE IDEOLOGY?

This is how many packages are in the gentoo games rubric:
ls -lah /usr/portage/games-*/ | wc -l1023
Obviously it's easy as fuck to create ebuilds for any properly written free software game that is not in that list.

What language is that?

Arch on gaming rig & laptop, Fedora at work, RHEL/CentOS on servers, Debian on the server of our cohousing project.
I'll probably use NixOS on my new laptop.

Using linux is easy it's just not windows and gaming on linux works very well provided your life also includes something other than gaymes.

Postmarxism

CK2 too

Linux is for Fedora wearing programmers.
programming is too fucking boring pirated version of windows are the way to go.

kys

CARBON FILTERING YOUR WELL WATER IS FOR RETARDS, REAL MEN STEAL CASES OF COCACOLA OFF TRUCKS TO SURVIVE

what do you mean?
that i forgot to put a period between ML and my sentence?

Currently using arch with xfce
Works surprisingly well

*reactionary OS

Some of your tabs look like they are in some germanic tongue like Afrikaans or Dutch

> suckless.org/sucks/systemd

These guys have no credibility. They apply the plan9 philosophy even when it does not make sense. Plan9 is a RESEARCH OS and that is why designers have not made exeption to their philosophy.

xubuntu on laptop
debian on desktop

Xubuntu + FVWM

Yes i'm shilling, but I don't ever hear anybody talk about FVWM, and damn is it configurable. Defaultly looks really old though, but that isn't nescessarily a bad thing if you're into AETHETICS.

They apply the UNIX philosophy to software the only philosophy that matters when it comes to software.

Eco-Socialist
TOR

That's not a GNU/Linux distro, faggot. Eco-"socialists" confirmed for worst girls.

should i use ubuntu instead of mint? can i get rid of the amazon thing? i just want an easy to use operating system. i don't want to spend hours just to be able get to watch a fucking video on my browser.

10/10 top pasta would kek again

Most buntu based distros should do that out of the box these days. If you still need flash they usually ask you during the installation process and will install it for you, but many sites already support html5 video for which you don't need any extra software.

Seriously though no love for Peppermint? It is Lubuntu done right, I really like this one, it is both lightweight and functional, not even shilling.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

Apocaliticist with Posadist characteristics.
Ganoo PLUS Loonix.

communalist

debian gnu plus linooks

free software is liberatory technology guys

I forgot to talk about my ideology. I don't even know tbh fam, some form of Marxism-Leninism with post-Zizekian neo-Althusserian critique of ideology. I guess it relates to my use of linux in general, due to my autism level being >9000

this really goes beyond computers and operating systems, I cant imagine how someone who struggles with that keeps living in a world where they have to cook their own food, drive and maintain a car, separate their laundry before they wash it, etc. Apparently such people cant even figure out how to reply to the posters they're responding to.

anyways user, ubuntu hasn't had amazon shit for a while now.
unity is gross but you don't have to use it, plus the other DEs never came with
I'd say just dont even bother if you dont notice a difference though but it probably really is better to change to ubuntu given the mint security thing tbh. ubuntu is a good distro, its stable and has lots of packages, etc.

Well, none have leaked for OpenBSD so far.

Debian testing, famalam. Same great package management, with minimal mess.

Mint is almost exactly the same thing as Ubuntu. Their forum was the only thing that was compromised. The OS itself is safe.