Where were the "SJWs" 10 years ago? I'm not talking about the current ones, which were obviously in school...

Where were the "SJWs" 10 years ago? I'm not talking about the current ones, which were obviously in school. What the fuck happened in the past decade? I'm 28 and noticed this SJW trend with most of my friends that went off to college. Did the brainwashing start 10 years ago? I don't remember 18-30 year old SJWs back in 2007 when I was in high school. Maybe that's just me. Also by "SJWs" I don't mean all leftists. I consider myself a progressive, not this regressive shit we're seeing now with "progressives".

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Intersectionality has been floating around academia for decades, but was held in check by the religious right.
The Bush years left such a sour taste in everyone's mouth that there was an ideological vacuum that it could fill.
The Internet really opened up to non-Dilberts in the mid 2000s, and drew people into spaces where they could be radicalized.

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It's been around for ages. Bookchin essentially created Communalism because Anarchists triggered him too hard with their IDpol and post-left BS.

Maybe we all deserve to die.

I recently been thinking about this
In the 00's social liberals were focusing on fighting fundies and the bush administration so they were more modest with their demands.
When ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€O'Bama๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ got in power social liberals fell in bliss and fundies and warmongers were swept under the rug, SJW were born on that enviroment because they had almost no opposition so they put pedal to the metal with their demands.

The issue now is what pure ideologies will be born under the Trump era?

Not all anarchists! Reminder that this board is majority anarcho-communists - they're as opposed to idpol as the rest.

Lifestylists (antifa, SJWs, and other edgy liberals) are the problem.

Don't fucking dare point out the word filter I am so sick of this shit nobody cares how new you are.

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Why does my opinion keep on getting deleted? It's not exactly a coincidence that as the white population declines the racism from non whites towards whites becomes stronger and louder.

I'm genuinely sorry this reality offends you so.(This is how you know a person is autistic, they've been told to leave several times and still don't understand)

Mod seems to be having brain problems.

Because we've refuted this bullshit a million times. In the Permian extinction which led to the rise of the dinosaurs, rapid heating by volcanoes triggered the release of massive amounts of methane, which killed off 90% of life on land. Capitalism's endless cancer-like drive for more growth is repeating this. Race is a tiny and imaginary issue based on pseudoscience - we're all humans, one of the least genetically diverse species to ever exist.

Will you fight capitalism, or will you die like a dog in the coming battle?

What is the most prominent place of these brainwashing (well as it seems to me)?
Liberal colledges.
Who controls liberal colledges?
Porkies
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think it started about the time of occupy wallstreet and it my opinion was made to divide and redirect the left attention from the class problems.

STATISTICS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY

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Those new mods are definitely too heavy-handed when it comes to deletions. Chances are their autism has already prevented a birth of an in-joke or two

Decent, Empathetic Human Beings have always been around dude

In this case I think the mod deleted the post then realized you can't ban the user after deleting the post. Hur dur

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You keep saying decline, as if they're being slaughtered or something. On a global scale, whites have been a minority. Just because other races breed like rabbits doesn't mean whites are in decline. What do you consider as white anyways? The only shit that does bother me is how It's considered racist for a white person to be proud to be white. Japs are one of the more racists fucks out there but no one seems to call them out on it. In fact, dumb weebs have deluded themselves into thinking Japs want anything to do with them. Jews are the same. Jews marrying non-Jews is frowned upon. Imagine the shitstorm if a dating site called whitepeoplemeet or WDate popped up. There's nothing inheritliy wrong with wanting to preserve your culture and being proud of it.


Being empathetic and nice is fine but once people start taking advantage of you is when you have to grow a spine.

many on the "left wing" of american politics are just liberals that barely care about economics and only care about social rights

Under bush the govt was very anti social rights for many disenfranchised groups and shit economically. In major cities bush was hated by milquetoast liberals and actual leftists and progressives. Rich upper middle class liberals could convince themselves they were edgy while living in million dollar homes by standing up for LGBT rights, bourgeois feminism,and the like. these are rich women who live in east coast gated suburbs and rode the prep school to ivy pipeline who will go to battle with you to say that they are more oppressed than a white male growing up in a trailer park whose parents overdosed on opiates. Its basically the best way that they can feel like they are fighting the system, when really they benefit immensely from the system

They still existed, they just were known as hippies. Just like every cancer in this world, they were an American phenomenon.

I think a lot of people in this thread have posited more or less accurate theories about the origin of what we think of as the modern SJW, but I want to add in the fact that the iPhone came out about exactly ten years ago now, this is about the same time that the internet was being rolled out to more rural communities, and that internet culture started becoming much more corporate friendly back around the same time. This, coinciding with Obama's election and a the cultural specter of 'hope and change' gave us an environment where these like-minded individuals could form communities.

The influx of new users (and likely also younger users, because the technology was becoming cheaper and more prolific) to the internet caused a social shift in online discussions.

I think that the genesis of SJWs are essentially just liberal-leaning normies + internet coming into an existing internet culture that had already more or less adapted to trolling.

Then Gamergate was a stratifying thing for some reason, and that plus Trump drama has brought in even more uninitiated internet users that don't want to have their strongly held opinions about the world questioned.

So I guess to answer the original question, the SJWs themselves were already around, they just had to wait for insular communities to form and for certain political events and climates to be in place to really explode.

Same as any other group online, really.

I was also thinking it was because of the Internet becoming more popular, but then I remember MySpace. That was huge before 2007. It was popular enough that you started seeing MySpace links in advertisements similar like we do now with bookface and twaters.

SJWs are the liberal reaction to right wing radicalization in the post cold war era. They are idealist to a fault and blame spooks like "whiteness" and """structural racism""" (structural racism is not a spook, however their interpretation of it certainly is) for the plight of non-whites in western societies (because capitalism could never be at fault of course.) Some of them LARP as anarchists but most are fine with the neoliberal status quo.

I think SJW is the conclusion to left-liberal politics where you can't push for socialism. At least in american the economic/traditional left was destroyed and kept down by decades of cold war propaganda so I think it was almost natural liberals who would have become socialist are become SJWs. I've said this before but Holla Forums should be nicer to liberals, many of them could and would have become socialist. I think we have a better chance then getting them to our side than a typical conservative. They in their misguided way do believe they are sticking up for the oppressed and exploited, even if they may do more harm than good. So we should at least try to show them how socialism is in many ways an extension and improvement on liberal values.

Can you elaborate or give examples of right wing radicals? Prudish Jesus freaks isn't what I consider a radical. The only thing I can think of is the Oklahoma City bombing.

There's been a few right wingers who shot up abortion clinics/Planned Parenthood locations. And don't forget the one who killed Tiller "The Baby Killer".

I do think socialism can work this day in age. We have access to free media. Censoring shit, which is what SJWs keep trying to do, is bad. You see it happening with popular internet media outlets such as YouTube and Google. That's leading us to the wrong path. Rioting and punching ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€nazis๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ is NOT how you change minds. The whole meme of "we haven't tried MY socialism yet" fails to realize how much we have advanced in the past 100 years compared to our history. At this point I think SJWs or "liberals" ideals have just been hijacked. By whom? What's the goal? Globalism? The EU is a taste of what globalism is. It works. But we have to get rid of backwards religion, which is Islamd. Christianity has assimilated to the modern day. The biggest issue I see now with the west is the importing of Muslims that still execute people based on stupid shit like adultery or being gay. You can't just import them to the west without having a generation or two grow up on western ideals. It's like if you had a time machine and you went back in time, you'd be a fucking witch and drown in a lake because you don't float. Why can't we talk about that without being labeled as a xenophobic, racist, etc? These people are cancer and it's our job to fix it. The problem is, they'll label us as "the other side" aka alt-right, right, conservative, etc. We're being fucked and there's nothing we can do.

Spooked retard shit

Western liberal ideals don't really exist anymore and probably never did. That's why liberal appeals to an apolitical non ideological notion of 'decency' are doomed to fail. Liberals, 'SJWs' and their opponents appeal to a this phantom notion of 'decency', taking care to remind people they are not political, but merely being rational and decent people, which of course means they are completely blind to their own ideology. 'Woke' liberals are perfectly fine with embracing even the worst corporate shills neocon ghouls as long as they signal they belong in the community of 'decent' people. Most Islamists in the west are 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants who grew up in the void of late capitalism, alienated from communal, traditionalist religion as well as from western popular culture.

The rise of the incarceral state and the evangelical movement following the Clinton years are what gave birth to the contemporary SJW. It is a reaction to the homophobia and racism in US politics. It has largely been coopted by the democratic party in America and is therefore completely useless from a revolutionary perspective. The gay/trans rights wing is especially impotent. I still have hope for the non-whites however.

I don't know about what Trump will do, but the coming ideology is extremely clear for me. If we are not destroyed by climate change as a civilization, of course.

We will get absolute liberalism. Technologically assisted extreme self expression, self definition, free decisions by self-made individual. And it will take place under friction-less capitalism, also technologically assisted. Of course that will make the first unavailable to a lot of people ground into dust by the second aspect, and the first aspect will feed the second. Self definition will become the absolute commodity.

And when the contradictions collapse it all? Fascism.

(or socialism if we have the guts to make it happen)

You do realize the climate has made 180 turns WITHOUT industrial humans present? Or was is that a lie? Having multiple ice ages a lie? Can we agree that all "history" that we know of is a lie?

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That is the point you utter imbecile. Human society can only survive in a very narrow temperature band that hasn't always existed. So we cannot, absolutely cannot continue doing things pushing us off that small band.

Climate change relativists should be fucking shot.

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Humans weren't sufficiently technologically advanced to be a contributing factor in the warming back then, comrade. I think we can all agree that it would be better for us as a species if we try to maintain the current climate that we (and our crops and our animals, etc.) have adapted to, in addition to being able to monitor the climate (and the state of our planet more generally) in enough detail to know where and how we'll have to adapt to changing climate and ecosystems. As you said, radical things have happened to earth's ecosystems without human intervention in earth's history that have drastically changed the climate and general landscape of the planet. It benefits everyone if we can perhaps see these changes coming and know how we are impacting them.

But we have survived through climate change. Climate change is nature's way of resetting. We will continue to survive until the sun blows up. Hmm, really makes you think โ€ฆ past "lost" civilizations have existed before us. Is that were all the ayylmao bullshit came from? People like to think we were primitive apes in the past that's unable to build a civilization. Which is ironic, seeing as the only people building shit with STONES are niggers. Imagine if we just nuked all civilization right now. The only thing left is nigger carvings in caves and stone. Hmm โ€ฆ


As said early, climate cycles are invevitable. Sure, we may speed up the cycle with our pollution, but it's still going to happen. Maybe all the memes of (reptilian) trash living underground or (hollow earth) theories are really just telling of us of our past. I don't doubt in the thousands of years we supposedly have existed as a race that a civilization before us has experienced what we are doing now. Hmm โ€ฆ my noodles are hot right now.

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The mark of the beast shows you for who you are, begone!
Our agricultural civilization has survived minimal climate shifts like the little ice age, but not much more. And even those kinds of wobbles took out great chunks of the population, something our fragile complex civilization could probably not survive.

It's okay, buddy. Keep trying to delude yourself into know what we actually know about our history. Truth is: We don't know JACK SHIT. Our egos blind us into thinking that we know so much that we think we do. It's a farse. The fact that we have people praising our "science" like if it's a religion is enough for you to see something is up.
The oldest history we know of is from bullshit religions. Believe what you want, but they were written by men. The fact that there are monuments that we can't explain, with our modern knowledge, shows how little we know. Hell, I won't even get into ayylmao shit, explain Stonehenge. Wait, we can't. We have to meme it with stupid ayylmao shit.

You and I did not survive climate change, but generations of homo sapiens precursors did in various pockets as hunter gatherers. This is not a life that you or I would do well living, user. Again, I think we have common ground in trying to prevent, at any cost, being forced to live this way. The gulag still has better living conditions than the state of nature in this form.


I would advise against personifying the actions of natural forces. It's a little cute to think of mother nature hitting the reset switch on her Gaia-Tron 9000, but the reality is much more sterile.


This is remarkably optimistic and by no means guaranteed, or even likely.


Is this a meme somewhere? I've heard my wife's grandpa say something oddly similarโ€ฆ Something akin to the notion that earth has basically supported life forever in one form or another, but that between each cycle is so much dead space that we never see evidence of the previous civilizations.
I mean I don't know that I buy it, cute idea I guess, but again, I think it's more likely to be just wishful thinking. Makes us feel less alone in the cosmic scheme of things.


That's like acknowledging that you're in a car speeding towards the precipice of a cliff and saying 'hit the gas, motherfucker!'.
I'd rather try to keep us alive for as long as possibleโ€ฆ But I guess I could see your line of thinking if you believe the human race to be more akin to a cancer on the planet than just another species. I've met people that think similar things, so I guess I could get that.


Going full retard


You seem to be quite skeptical of the claims of climate scientists and our general understanding of earth's history, but much less skeptical of hollow earth lizard memes.

I hope you enjoy your noodles, you big goof :P

You both know what I mean by "we" you retard. I didn't read the rest of your shit.

Understanding that modern humans living in first world civilizations are note prepared to live as pre-agricultural foragers is not a stretch of the imagination, noodlefriend. Most people don't have more than a week's worth of food in their homes, and if they can't get more at the store, I doubt many of them would know where to find any or how to prepare it. This is not a hard ask for you as a thinker to entertain - that hunter gatherers from the ice age had different skills than a modern man born in a city. Did you hand-roll those noodles, by chance? It's pretty good. Homemade noodles, that is.

Believing that aliens and lizard people guide our cultures from the center of the earth, on the other hand, requires a leap of faith that I simply don't have the wings for. I'm afraid there's little else we can learn from each other at this juncture if you are unwilling to put on your thinking cap.

Why the fuck would I or anyone care about any "we" that does not include him or herself?

I said people resort to stupid shit like aliens and lizards because they can't explain our past. Exactly what you said just now. What the fuck are we talking about again?

I'm out.

Also, stop derailing a thread about ideology with climate relativism.