What if we gathered a large sum of donated money, organized in our largest nearby cities and handed out food, water, and essential other items to the homeless and low income areas, along with short books, such as The Communist Manifesto, Socialism: Utopian and Scientific, Wage-Labour and Capital and Value, Price, and Profit, which explain or introduce Communism.
Raising support with these groups would give us great attention, and would spread class consciousness. Most of these low income areas vote heavily for democrats, since they masquerade as being the working class party. Making them aware that there are others that represent their interests better could prove to be beneficial.
Thoughts?
What if we gathered a large sum of donated money, organized in our largest nearby cities and handed out food, water...
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Nathan Allen
Sounds interdasting.
I wouldn't go unless there was at least a small group of comrades though.
Wouldn't wanna get a bootlicker or ''law enforcement officer'' trying to start shit.
Camden King
That will be a nice move but there will be a temendous backlash about the politization of charity
Brandon Bailey
No one who doesn't already have far left sympathies is going to be interested in reading 200 year old books by dead German guys on why their brand of a demonized ideology is better than the version espoused by people no one even remembers anymore.
Luis Smith
That's a good point. Religious groups do it too, but I know it's looked at as being different.
Any way to avoid this backlash, or to sugarcoat it?
Maybe we should just drop the books and carry leftist flags or something of the sort?
Most of them are publically educated, everything they know of leftism comes from cold war propaganda and McCarthyism. Even if they throw away the books, piss on them, or burn them for warmth, the point is to establish a positive view of Communists. If 1/100 of them reads the first chapter then we will have furthered Communism.
Easton Moore
This idea is stupid because of what said, but who cares about politicization of charity? It already happens all the fucking time with evangelicals peddling their horseshit.
Julian Gutierrez
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Caleb Barnes
The Communist Manifesto is already accessible for free to the billions of people who have a computer with internet access and yet only an insignificant portion of them will ever read it. So what's the point of wasting money giving it away, particularly to people who are probably not really going to get into 19th century political theory because they're too busy starving?
Honest to god, you people need to be more practical with this shit. The Left is so addicted with doing things that *look* or *feel* like the things we're supposed to be doing, instead of things that are straightforward and effective. Read those books yourself, which I bet you haven't, read subsequent Marxist economic theory and go make some videos or whatever. There are really basic, essential things we need to get done before we get all flamboyant with stunts like that.
Jace Ross
Most of them don't think to. I never read Marx until I drifted far left. He's demonized across the world, and as a result people nod their heads and never question it. Also, some people prefer print versions. Obviously beggars aren't choosers, but I for one couldn't finish the Communist Manifesto on my computer, I would always get distracted. Something about a physical book makes me much more inclined to keep reading.
And what do you propose? I'm all ears, I can't think of something that would be more effective then literally talking to strangers about communism in a positive environment.
Adam Powell
Hi COINTELPRO.
Ignore these shitposters OP, they always show up in every thread that calls for effective action and discourage it.
They think that if we think nobody is doing it then we will sit in our board and shitpost all day.
Not a bad idea though, but don't hand out books that would make major headlines or get our arrested, for example state and revolution.
Evan Hall
I just said it. If you manage to talk to over a hundred people doing that, and you manage to keep their attention throughout the necessary amount of time you need to make a decent expose to Marxism, that would be a fucking miracle.
On the other hand, if you make decent online content you will probably reach thousands of people who will absorb it on their own time, whenever they prefer. And this is what matters right now. We don't need to persuade individuals to listen to us, the tool to do that is right in front of you, learn to use it ffs. You'll reach a wider audience and you won't waste anybody's money buying Penguin copies of Marxist texts that no one will read.
Joseph Rodriguez
Start a coop that works on the basis of barter and gifts
Ian Morgan
You're a fucking retard.
Also, you sound so fucking dumb and ludicrous saying things like that:
that in your case in particular I'd suggest doing nothing, because if you try to "raise class consciousness" you'll only embarrass us.
Jonathan Jones
Such as….
Jaxson Campbell
direct action gets the goods m8 ;🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
Lucas Rodriguez
"I dunno, vote or something!"
Lincoln Morris
Hello Reddit.
Isaiah Cox
Like I said above, creating and circulating content is one of two goals you should have, the other is organizing into new parties (or any available left-wing party, depending on where you live). Anything else right now is a waste of time.
Save the charity gigs and public stunts for the future where we'll be competing over every possible individual against the forces of the Right. This is the job of mainstream parties, which we intend to become, not fringe amorphous political ideologies, which we currently are.
Holy shit, you're saying you don't vote? Look, I'm with the Times and I'm writing an article on really fucking badass radicals, would you be available to an interview?
Hello RevLeft. How is that boycott against Facebook going?
Joshua Morgan
English isn't my first language, but I have a feeling my writing has nothing to do with it.
Did I hurt your prescious fee fees?
Here, I recommend this butt cream, I hear it works great for babies.
Jace Reed
Oh, you are retarded, shame, I had high hopes
Isaiah Nelson
Pardon, Firefox is being a bitch today.
Ryder Barnes
you'd be giving handouts to the lumpen proletariat
which is useless because they will never achieve class consciousness
Nicholas Barnes
Class consciousness is a spook
Brayden Gutierrez
your mom is a spook
Carson Davis
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Jace Hernandez
Oh yeah totally, this one political instrument that every dominant class and every mainstream platform makes use of has nothing on giving away copies of the Communist Manifesto to homeless people. Go on, organize your charities until every beggar of Detroit sees the anarcho-nihilist light as well.
At first I thought that was weak banter, but once you added a visual element I realised I got owned.
Levi Jenkins
Direct action and community building, the soviets were formed one factory neighborhood at a time bruh
Parker Reed
Holla Forums can find a reason to not do anything.
It's a shame Holla Forums doesn't have the same mindset, it would make it a lot less difficult to fight their agenda.
OP seriously you're better off on Reddit as sad as it is to say. Holla Forums wouldn't walk to their own mailboxes if it meant it would establish worldwide communism. It's great for discussion, terrible for action.
Jayden Kelly
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Robert Bell
Most proles wouldn't even get through Jacobin's ABCs of Socialism.
Christopher Murphy
My copy of Socialism: Utopian and Scientific is 93 pages long.
Wage-Labour and Capital is 62 pages long.
The Communist Manifesto is 59 pages long.
While I agree that they can be hard to understand, they are most certainly not long reads. I'm sure there are more modern books that would work just fine.
Aaron Perez
And this is why we have to spread the Manga version of Das Kapital!
It's on Mangafox and here.
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Jason Sullivan
God damn. I'm not even a weeb but that's impressive.
Do you have a link that doesn't ask for public accounts?
I'd rather not tell Facebook I was downloading radical leftist manga.
Angel Rodriguez
mangafox.me
Does it open for you, or is your freedom not free enough because capitalism?
AM NOT UPLOADING IT ANYWHERE ELSE! AM BORED!
They have also made Mein Kampf into manga and it's actually not propaganda, rather how Hitler came to power.
Owen Jackson
Ah, that link works perfect for me, thanks user. I have a friend who is really in to manga who would love this.
Matthew Richardson
This. lol even the video series is a bit too much.
Things need to be adapted and produced to all audiences, at different levels. By that I don't mean dumbed down, but reduced to a few basic outlines and stylized accordingly, aiming to hit the right notes and incite their pre-existing sensibilities. After that, more material, getting gradually more complex and challenging.
As shitty as Reddit is, read this post
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it's from years ago, but I remember it because it went semi-viral (I think I was hate-reading EconJobRumors when someone linked to it) and probably got more people curious about Marxism than any of us ever will.
This is because he presented it well, started from an interesting point (the concept of surplus and how it's organized from society to society, which is a lot better than the hundreds of shitty academic texts that for some reason open with like, Marx's theory of alienation and always end up discussing German terminology and translations issues for the first 20 pages) and because he addressed popular myths and misconceptions as he went.
That's it. He didn't need to raise money, do charity, distribute pamphlets or tell people to "read X", he just knew his shit a little bit and was non-autistic about it. A well-produced video version of it would be 5 minutes long and probably go semi-viral as well. That's already thousands of people going "oh, maybe I was wrong about this Marx dude" and nobody wasted money, time, or energy.
The thing that "got me" was when some dude in a music forum explained that welfare was only ever given to the people as concession to stop them from joining radical organizations, and traced its development from Bismarck to Roosevelt. Could have been a simple infographic, shared throughout social media.
Shit like that works, and it works better than old-fashioned door-to-door preaching.
Easton Williams
Awesome, been meaning to read this.
I've picked up some of the components (the making of the working class, surplus value, overproduction) but Capital itself looks too intimidating.
Caleb Williams
Jace Sanders
It's too bad Bernie is just a neo-New Dealer. His town halls and rallies have been pretty good for connecting with the poor and raising class consciousness around specific issues. Hypothetically, I think If he shifted his rhetoric away from moralizing about taxation to incriminating capitalism, even a tinge, it'd be helpful. And dialogue has limits but is a way better gateway than having people sit through homework.