Black Power is Leftist?

If black power is leftist than is white power also leftist?

What makes the Black Power movement leftist exactly?

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Nothing.

Black nationalism is the pinnacle of reactionary cancer.

Black power isn't an inherently leftist notion. For instance the Nation of Islam is pro-capitalism. Black power, at it's most fundamental level, is attempting to forge a positive identity amongst a historically marginalized group which doesn't necessarily run counter to leftist thought. Whereas white power's main function is reactionary. It's goal is to enforce hegemonic racial power relations that stem from capitalist social divisions.


Black power isn't black nationalism. The Black Panthers promoted black power long after dropping their nationalist line of thinking.

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Read a book, nigger.

I'm not buying your bullshit. What is white power in South Africa amongst the Boer today? Why is pitting minorities against majorities a "leftist" thing?


Is white power not white nationalism then? To me, I would say yes, since white nationalism is about having a white nation for whites only; and white power is about whites dominating the world, white man's burden, ruling over non-white races.

Black Power is right-wing movement for blacks.

What is black power?

news to me.

The difference is that the BPP were primarily socialists and considered it a means to an end for achieving equality for American blacks; they were staunchly against racism against non-blacks and wanted solidarity with majorities on left. It was a realpolitik movement, something useful for its time.

"Black power" today is much more similar to the same old "white power", i.e. nationalism. The NBPP should be culled for shitting all over the BPP's legacy.

Nothing. Your genes do not matter.

I don't know much about the Boer white power movement? What are their goals?

They generally overlap. As does black nationalism/black power but the idea of black power doesn't have to necessarily be married to nationalism and it historically wasn't.

Exactly my point.

pfft yeah right


Don't you mean independence / separation?

I wonder where the radical left in America and black history overlapped where the radical right did not. And one was about material anti capitalist fact, while the other was born from reaction and venom and exhaust.

Like there's context to history? Or some shit?

sure thing shlomo

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Holy shit do retards not know what liberation is and why do they confuse it

Orania, South Africa is all they have left. Their goal is to survive – they don't want to be genocided.

There are Boers that do not identify as white and who hate the British btw, you should read this: rense.com/general56/boerafrikanerorwhite.htm

Look into Orania, South Africa: duckduckgo.com/?q=Orania South Africa&t=lm&ia=web

There is some rhetoric about "apartheid was immoral, the blacks will not be our slaves anymore, we'll produce everything ourselves and live separately".

t. has never read anything about the BPP

There is no Boer white power movement only an Afrikaner one. le subtle distinction

The fuck does your quote even mean there? There's plenty of SJW drones mewing shit like that today and it's all just a bunch of meaningless noise filling the air.

You're talking to someone who has long maintained a black nationalist persona on whitewatch.info until the site got shutdown, heh.

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How do I know his idea of racism isn't "everything white" and that his idea of fighting racism doesn't mean genociding whites?

Oh wow you're like an expert then

How do I know your idea of posting isn't being a fag and your idea of an argument isn't getting a mouthful of my cock? :^)

There isn't a anuddah shoah

If there was one, we wouldn't be having this conversation because half the board would be fucking dead and you would hear a lot more god damn tears

Maybe we fucking need a genocide next door to remind history what it looks like

There have been genocides in American history

Again, it's almost as if history has context you can't wash away, material events that occurred that shifted the way people behaved acted or thought

Pictured here is the white genociding Black Panthers organizing with the Young Patriots whose logo was a Confederate flag. You can just see the genocidal rage bubbling up.

Don't make me use my melanin powers on you cumskin. We wuz kangs y'know.

Is your cock a e s t h e t i c?

What are you even getting at? Black Nationalism got all fucked up when COINTELPRO divided them from working with the White Nationalists.

I'm sure it was the government's fault and not the public

The public is fine

It never makes the wrong call. Especially white nationalists.

When did black nationalists work with white nationalists?

Go back Holla Forums

It's not that hard of a quote to parse. Do you really need it explained to you?

I guess by racist you must mean "humiliating, degrading, and harming a race (another or your own)" and not the present day definition of "anyone who is white and doesn't want to go extinct".

Usually anti-racism means kill whitey these days.

Black power is not leftist. They will sometimes bring up the flaws of capitalism, but they will only do so through a racial lens by pointing out that whites have all the power and we used to have power just look at "Black Wall Street."

They were probably more concerned with systemic racism but being shitty to people because of their melanin count isn't very cool either.
Oh yeah dude all those roving sjw death squads toasting wonderbread are a totally real thing

Remember to sage, lads

So it's only a shit leftist that would think black, white, latino power isn't just id pol. Am i rite?

The combined power of the exploited worker is what matters.

Read a book, faggot.

racists are people that believe race is an objective biological reality, seems like you are one

It is IdPol but can be a true socialist movement if subjected to an Antiimp and not an intersectional framework.

You're willing to give national socialism a chance? Thanks fam!

Reminder that mass privatization and persecution of trade unionists is not socialism

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This of course coming form Holla Forums. Have you tried being subtle when shitposting at Holla Forums? That hyper-capitalism derail was good but also made you all look like a joke.

You can come out as a communist and you'll just get more love and acceptance from your university.

Come out as a holocaust denier or Not Socialist and you're going to lose your job, have your family turned against you, become homeless, then get killed by antifas or drugged by psychiatrists or stabbed in prison.

SJWs ruin lives and sometimes those lives are only that of people that happened to be slightly politically incorrect, people like you maybe, because in the absence of a Holla Forums-tier they will go on a witchhunt and brand and destroy the lives of other leftists.

Why mess with id pol at all? If capitalist society "progressed" far enough to get closing to falling then the time for id pol would have passed long ago.

You didn't mention the jew, why?

What is your problem with identity politics?

Do North Koreans engage in "identity politics"?

Why do only whites have to give up their identity and become blind to race?

Can't we give the irrelevant shiters their own nation (Brazil) and let the people that want to remain pure have their own ethnostates? It's the simplest solution and everyone wins; irrelevant shiters get to irrelevant shit and people that don't like that get to remain pure.

Don't nations exist in the first place because of identity? What is a nation without an identity?

Really? So what's a hate crime then? What is "racism"? I thought racist was a word that denoted someone who harms a race. Now it just means a person who asserts the reality of race?

Races obviously fucking exist. If your definition of racist really IS the definition of racist, then of course I am one, and I will say it with pride.

…but there are multiple understandings of what that stupid word means. It has pretty much become meaningless to call a person racist. It's like how every president in America always gets called a fascist no matter what; wtf even is a fascist?

Lies, you get treated just as badly as a nazi would. Remember most people see communism = Mao or Stalin who killed way more than Hitler.

Hold up. I gave white, black, latino as an example. All are guilty of id pol. The point is when people reach class consciences we can leave all that crap behind.

To answer your question "Why do only whites have to give up their identity and become blind to race?"

It's far enough in civilization that all humans need to turn a blind eye to so called race.

…yeah fucking right. I want you to wear a hammer and sickle and walk around a campus. Then another day walk around with a swastika shirt.

Also try wearing a shirt with any communist hero depicted on it, then try wearing one with Adolf Hitler on it.

What if it doesn't work like that and people can become 100% aware of class issues and yet still care about race issues?


Goodluck with promoting that to anyone who isn't white.

Answer 1: If they still care about race then gulag. JK. But the system should be designed they won't get far in a socialist state.

Answer 2: I'm not white. Shouldn't be that difficult.

Fuck college campuses in general. They aren't comrades and nearly all economics classes preach capitalism exclusively.

The Nation of Islam and the American Nazi Party were BFFs for some time

holy shit you are smoking some good shit

I would non-ironically dispose of all schools and universities if I became leader. They are a mistake by design. We need to look further back in history, to a time before children were herded into classrooms, for inspiration as to superior ways for a society to function and its citizens to still obtain knowledge / "education". I hate that very word, "education". As if people are learning any shit, getting their "education", that they couldn't learn on the job or in a laboratory or on their own reading books online or in the library.

well its inherently nationalist isnt it
you cant do black power if you are a ginger white that burns in 15 minutes of the new york sun
how isnt it inherently nationalist if you disagree?

How are anti-sjws so unbelievably autistic? Like I get that reactionary idpol is bad, but when black liberationists are too often marxists themselves, maybe it's time to stop posting for a while and think about your life.

I don't think he meant that so literally, like with Downs syndrome people.

most Constitutions aren`t designed around skin color for a reason, Generalized rules that apply to a lot of ppl, protect everyone and avoid idpol nonsense

because people of colour are oppressed and white people are often the oppressors.
ot's simple black "racism" punches up and whote racism punches down