Is China still socialist?

Is China still socialist?

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We must defend the People's Republic of China against all foreign aggression and imperialism.

no

no and it never was

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Do you believing in fighting Chinese imperialism in Africa?

No, they are just authoritarian capitalists and being like that since the 1990's

*80s

*50s

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70s
geez

I realize they're not socialist in the sense that they have capitalism now, what I mean is do they intend for it to be temporary or are they lying?

the richest people in China usually have deep connections to the Communist party itself. They would be insane to let China implement any actual socialist reforms.

No it's just a clownish capitalist authoritarian shit show.

Mao would kill himself if he saw what his country became after his death.

The Communist Party of China has mastered the dialectic. In the last analysis, by embracing capitalism, they have become more Marxist than the USSR or even Marx himself. It is said Full Communism has already been achieved under controlled lab conditions…. soon it will be ready for deployment. The Bourgeoisie won't even know what hit them

this is satire right?
excuse my autism.

It's all in the book. Read Mao first. Some of its contents may seem banal at first sight, but it is a deeply dialectical work, also lots of I Ching parallels.

He's joking, man.

10/10, actually laughed

It's his fault though

No it's a state capitalist, imperialist, Han supremacist country.

This. How many times does Marxism-Leninism have to fail horribly for tankies to realize that it's a horrible idea.

Still waiting for the viable alternative. ML is the most successful socialism there is and have been. Other socialism has had to copy it every step of the way to not fall in on itself. Again, if not being able to keep market reformers out of the party or stay together in the face of aggression and sanctions constitutes failure, then yes, it's a failure and should be buried away, never to be seen again. Never mind the anarchists, whose states weren't sustainable at all.
Oh wait, that point is moot, seeing how aforementioned 'failures' are not unique to Marxism-Leninist states. Besides, ML states actually managed to sustain themselves without foreign loans and siding with the imperialist and capitalist west unlike the market socialist masterpieces of Khrushchev, Deng and Tito. Why do you think the Soviet Union and China went downhill after Khrushchev and Deng stepped into power in their respective countries?

I beg to differ

THIS IS WHAT ML ACTUALLY BELIVIE

Deng may have been sincere in believing it would essentially lead to utopia, but once you create a new ruling class dependent on the capitalist system for their wealth and power that's never to go back again.

pick one

By fail horribly, I meant fail horribly at actually creating socialism or liberating people. If you care about is creating a strong and powerful state, then ML works fine.

there can't be that few billionaires

no and it never was

Xi Jinping is a millionaire and gigantic porky, as are all this bros, take a fucking guess.

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9365099/Chinas-incoming-president-Xi-Jinpings-family-has-wealth-of-hundreds-of-millions.html

it is when we are arguing with the right wing who talk about how rich china is.

it isn't when we are arguing with fellow leftists.

same concept as how every commie and leftist in america defends bernie sanders when talking to normalfags but criticize him as a shitty socdem when talking with people who have brains. it's all about perspective

its complicated. they aren't "REAL" imperialists

Hit list when?

When Mao was in power, it absolutely can be considered socialist.

China cannot be imperialist

there's an underground Maoist communist party in China which advocates a second revolution

ri-ir.org/2010/08/12/maoist-communist-party-of-china-on-2nd-socialist-revolution/

The source is a bunch of Canadian Maoists. The fuck do they even know about China's internal politics? This could be a tiny party of no consequence which they're hyping up.

When was it ever?

No it can't, far less so than the USSR

this is what retards actually believe

Can you post a PDF?

How is Maoism different from Stalinism?

peasants, great leap forward and cultural revolution

well, according to Marx capitalism happens before socialism
if they actually have any serious plans for a socialist future is questionable

Its hard to no their strength precisely but neo-maoism is a real thing.
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Meaning what exactly?

As far as I know
Stalinism=Socialism in one country, that is supporting importing,just suporting revoliutionaries in other countries
Maoism=Permenent revoliution, that is importing revoliution to other countries
Maoism third worldism puts emphasis on importing revoliution to third world and colonised nations.

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