I am a Socialist

this isn't a fact, it's a figment of your imagination.
just admit you hate darkies and get it over with.

USSR was Chauvinistic Russian nationalism with public industries and tons of state intervention in people's lives. That's what Not Socialism really would look like. NotSocialist dipshits, like the Nazis are significantly less socialist than the USSR was. German banks and firms were privately owned, debt based currency was loaned to the state etc

Nazbols post here so, I don't think you will change anything…

All true except for chauvinistic. If anything, the Soviets gave too much power to women because they had to as they lost too many men in the war.

So how do you explain that every multinational socialist state in human history failed?

Just go to >>>Holla Forums, I don't like new people coming here.

every socialist state in human history failed.

Thats true,
but they could have worked if they would stay within an single nation and don't go full Commie.

Fascism seems to be the thing for you then.

You're a nationalist that condones welfare.

The nation is a modern construct that depends on a brutal coercive apparatus for its perpetuation. The nation can't return you to wholeness. The Third Reich promised a pastoral volkisch utopia, but all we got was death camps, mass media psy-engineering, firebombed cities, millions of people fed to an inhuman war machine. If you really want to Become Who You Really Are, dismantle the state and dismantle the market. Fascism is ultimately suicidal.

why do you even to ask lmao, you have fundamentally not understood socialism, of course you're a Nazi

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Why? You can do everything a Commie dreams of within a nation too. So it's of course possible with other forms of socialism too.

yes, modernism happened between the late 19th and early 20th century. We're currently living in post-modernity.

Nationalism as we know it is largely a product of the late 19th century.

fascinating stuff

not hundreds of years ago…. thousands of years ago!

The nation was the foundation of progress and prosperity even in ancient times.

Source: the depths of your own ass

Does race factor into this? If so, you're spooked and should look at Titos Yugoslavia

Wouldn't that just make you a nazbol?

I do not care how pretentious and cliched it is: read a fucking book. One not written by other nationalists that also do not read books.

You're a Asserist op

Imagine being such a retard that you think socialism in one state works. Imagine being such a fucking faggot, that you have to post a photoshoped Nazi on the moon because in reality they were so ass backwards that they were less mechanized than the USSR. This is what it's like to be a Nazi.

Because a nation is based on common values, lifestyle, culture and maybe even religion…. yes, this would imply that races get split. But not because of racism, just because of different values based on their heritage.

When was the last time that a Commie was on the moon?

Nice spooks, dork

You're right, but at least we made it to space, and in the future we'll make it further than any Nazi could have ever dreamed of or any capitalist nation for that matter.

fuck forgot to sage

I did not say this.
Strawman

It is clearly implied, fam. You can't just spout the names of logical fallacies in place of a counter-argument.

No, it's not, i even explained it the post.

A black person can have the same values, goals, culture and religion as a white person, He can be part of their nation. So it's not based on race.

Joke's on you, both USSR and US' space programs needed Nazi scientists. I don't remember the mission, but in one of the American ones they tried to do it without German expertise and gave up on it.
Also, while the US was first to put a man on the Moon the Soviet program had many other firsts. It was never a race to put someone on the Moon either, might as well say Gagarin won the race to orbit.
Too bad neither side ever tried a moonbase, I don't know about US projects but the Soviets had some cool plans they sadly scratched to burn money on the Buran instead.

based wordfilters. and the answer is yes btw. you're not a socialist. not at all.

Then I sure have an ideology for you!

Don't listen to these champagne socialist, opie. Any actual working class socialist is against global socialism and mass immigration. These guys will laugh at the dumb cunt working class capitalist and at the same time tow the line for globalist corporatism.

kys you fucking retard, and read a few books afterwards. A single one wont even help at these levels of delusion.

Try posting an actual argument next time, friend.

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Socialism within a nation is still socialism, no?

You do not need muh nayshun spooks to oppose capitalism, retard.

until it inevitably reverts back to capitalism when the nation decides to transition back to private property to preserve cultural norms

His argument isn't "we should try to develop a self sufficient labour pool and help developing economies retain their own skilled workers" it's "i hate niggers and pakis".
That hasn't been a socialist argument for a while m8.

You're not a socialist, you're a social democrat

Why would a socialist state want to help developing economies in the first place? Why don't just exploit them for the benefit of your own nations workers?

fuck off fascist

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As shown by how albania still maintains hoxhaist thought

The internationale will be the human race

I don't understand your point. Please explain it to me like I'm a stupid, uneducated working class person

lmao

Im not op. I just want to know why you'd want to share your success with the third world? As a strong socialist nation, why wouldn't you use your position of power to exploit other nations for your own peoples benefit?

No. Now fuck off back to Holla Forums

Sounds like a recipe for the people managing that exploitation to skim enough off the top to accumulate the necessary capital to reestablish capitalism.

Yawn

So would we need to keep the people poor to maintain socialism?

We would if extracting resources from the third world were the only way to achieve decent living standards but that's fucking retarded

I don't think it's the only way at all. I have no doubt that the nation that I'm currently in world be able to provide a decent living standard for all of its workers under a socialist system, but I don't see why we exploitation of other nations couldn't take us to a level above decent.

Nations like that tend not to last long.

If you're not OP you're basically of the same mindset, and basically not a socialist.
And you don't have to be, but you might as well go to Holla Forums where you'll fit in.

I don't understand why does socialism has to extend beyond the nation to be considered socialism.

But, but the alt right cat girl is not as qt

How is exploiting poor people to give to the rich socialism?
How do you explain that to your population?
What effect would that have?
Have you ever read a history book in your life?
Your idea of short termist beggar thy neighbour politics has been tried and has failed sooner or later every time, or ended up backfiring one way or another.
It's also the complete opposite of socialist thinking.
If you weren't so jacked on capitalist ideology you wouldn't even come up with such retarded bullshit.
Personally I feel sorry for you.

Don't project your morality onto me, friend. I really couldn't care less about the people outside of my theoretical socialist nation.

Yeah, that's the point you fucking mong

So basically you just want socialist civic nationalism with assimilationist cultural policies. I see nothing really wrong with this tbh. Civic nationalism in the sense of loyalty and comitment to the polity and the ideals it represents is pretty important imo.

Because that would literally defeat the enter point of socialism.