How come we don't have any large communist militias in America?

how come we don't have any large groups like the DHKP-C or MLKP in the US? pic related (red guards in austin tx)

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funny thing is, we aren't even anti-fa

Lack of a strong working class movement and organization

The Feds bring down the hammer and do everything possible to infiltrate, sabotage and suppress any left wing militia or even just armed left wing self defense groups as soon as they're on their radar.

1. America has systematically had propaganda against communists as the enemies for almost a century now

2. The left in America is spooked by guns, so even the leftists that lean socialist, they don't think of them like that

the best you get in the US are splintered groups like the ELF so start from that type of organization i guess

People don't take it up because it's dangerous and there isn't enough political mobilization to back it up.

There is that new leftist militia group that's got chapters in a bunch of states. Don't remember the name.

The FBI supports right-wing militias, the FBI destroys left-wing ones.

Anyway, we will have more left-wing militias the worse things get.

What happened between 1937 and 1969?

Any source on that?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Un-American_Activities_Committee

Red and black salamander is a faggot that idealizes past labor movements while criticizing current ones.

Why the fuck would any leftist like Hippies?

Because you have no one to train you. That is changing, but you have to focus on getting people and not guns like most right-wing groups do. Also, get fucking fit. The guys in your pic are cool and all, but their entire composure is unacceptable.

There's the John Brown Militia they seem pretty cool and are predominantly Anarchist.

I hear about this a lot, but when's the last time a militant leftist was arrested?

This isn't accurate anymore. We've went back to 1969, but that's still not too impressive.

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Hippies were great, and to an extent got a lot done - particularly for communal living. The ones who are still around still beat the shit out of most of the modern left, because they at least have some enthusiasm for production and sufficiency.Their political ideas aren't all half-bad, either. The stigmatization and commodification of hippies is the real problem.

Oh, and they aren't very conducive to militia activity. This is true. But their approach, for what it is, is very good.

I hope you are not an American asking this question.

they tried that in the 70's, they all went to jail, blew themselves up, and/or became college professors

Anyway, we need to understand the value of moderate militias. We go for the throat, maybe, with our armed leftists… and it's unnecessary. Everyday people who see the country shifting further to the right, who see problems not being solved, who see Wall-Street and the failure to fix it… those people are angry.

And I think to some extent, the far right elements are a lot more willing to bullshit those people and pretend to be the representatives of this righteous anger - to get them a few more heads in their militias. And we're hung up that the American left isn't really left - ok, but things are what they are, and we ought to work with that.

As much as I'd like to, I don't think I'd be able to afford a gun like that.

This right here, exactly. I mean, those guys have heart getting out in public but how do you honestly expect to take on right wingers when you're a little skinny 120lb.er going up against some roided up 200 lb. nationalist fuccboi.


I mean, for example, the Golden One is basically what you have to prepare for. He's nutty and bulky (too much for his own good imho) but he surely would do better than a guy that clearly doesn't work out at all.


I think there needs to be a combination of strength and agility – we should be about functional strength. Getting really good at wrestling and ground fighting, and also striking/blocking very well too. Learn actual combat skills, and bulk up where necessary but not to a point where you can't wipe your own ass or some shit either.


People often think weights automatically translate to being a good fighter or something, but its rarely the case. A lot of gym rats would get their asses kicked by someone like GSP, who trains actual strikes and shit on the regular. Be like GSP, not the Golden One !

Agree with everything you said. People forget that some Hippies were actually really violent sonsabitches. That time has passed, no being "hippie" is associated with peace and love.

Yet, the actual hippies from the 60s were a raucous, amoral bunch. My kinda people tbh.

at least I'm not a manlet ;-;

pls leave Holla Forums. next you're going to say Al Qaeda fighters have cuck physiques.

Not really what I was saying, but you're right - some were. I was more talking about the inbetween, though - those who were neither the ridiculous apathetic mainstream bubblegum caricature nor the violent kind of hippies. People who were peaceful but active, particularly in communes. A good idea, in my opinion. The problem is that the left largely only kept the "peaceful" thing and largely abandoned the hard work.

People fought and died in 1969

CIA is the greatest intelligence agency on the planet and would probably shatter any guerilla or militant left groups before they could even think about growing. And also America is the most class cycled nation on the planet. When Bernie Sanders is seen as a radical communist what would militant actual radicals look like?

But if they overcame these obstacles America is such a geographically diverse and large country and so full of weapons that it could be a guerilla paradise

I guess that's why soldiers are given zero physical training and are just trained in how to shoot, right? Physical strength and endurance is highly important for a lot, not just for being able to fight without a gun.
No, but plenty cops and soldiers do, i.e. the people you're actually going to be fighting in a revolution.

Stop trying to excuse being a dyel and do Starting Strength, or at least some calisthenics and jogging.

Carry around an assault rifle for hours than we can talk.

Honestly, no. Bodybuilder aesthetics are not utilitarian.

Bad turn of phrase. Obviously they aren't bodybuilders but they do lift and are strong, which was my point.

They don't lift. I mean individuals might lift but lifting isn't really a big deal to either group.

Now I ain't one, but I've argued with plenty, and what you want is supposedly endurance over strength pretty much 100% of the time. Being able to lift something heavy doesn't matter much but being able to walk extreme distances, just to walk some more, does matter.

Funny, humans are some of the best land animals on earth at long term endurance. That and throwing shit.

Not the human writing this post I'm making.

American leftoids have found much more lucrative ways of LARPing, like poorly repdroducing autonomism on college grounds.

It's more like the FBI starts and runs all militia's in order to keep tabs on militants

Because people grow out of it when they become adults.

These countries have perpetual welfare systems that go beyond anything available in the US, so they're able to remain children indefinitely and stay in their edge phase. Once they become "grown" children, they start getting more radical.

The US would need something like free indefinite tuition to create a similar class for a militia.

because all communists in the US are just LARPing college dropout trust fund children who are afraid of being shoved a bit too rough let alone afraid of firearms

ahh yes turkey and its perpetual welfare system

They're not soldiers though. They don't go on 100 mile marches and build fobs. they're guys with guns in a city. Any situation where they need to use their gun will be over in less than a minute probably.
Here are some actual soldiers that were part Northern Alliance in Afghanistan. Real sexy hunks, right?

I was just going through the Red Guards Facebook and found this visitor post lol

we should edit Jason in there. I won't do it now because I'm going to sleep.

His finger literally looks like a disfigured micropenis.

Amerilards are classcucked to the marrow, you had a chance for revolution in the 30's but then the new deal and wwii came and killed off what little potential you had.

sorry if this is a

The presidential inauguration if not more recent.

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Unroo did 9/11

Haha that AMD-65. Of all the AK's to own he had to get that.

Already a thing. Don't know how you faggots missed it after the threads we had. I'm guessing you're all reddit.

redneckrevolt.org/

I actually saw it but ignored because it looked like Anarkid Idpol larping, will check it out.
also putting "Revolt" in the name makes everything sound 100% more teenaged.

Called it.

Ngl, the 'taking back redneck' aspect of it is stupid to the point that it comes off as borderline astroturfing. Basically same reason as above said. If they get stuff done that's good, though.

Are you talking about cops or militiamen? Obviously in the present that's the situation, but in a civil war they will need to become soldiers.
Those are people who have been engaging in physical labor for their entire life. They're probably decently strong and with exceptional endurance. I'm not saying you need to be huge and ripped, I'm saying you should be fairly strong and conditioned; if you're just the average American you're neither of those things.

This is also the purely physical aspect and not the psychological aspect. Skinny kids wearing jeans and holding rifles aren't particularly threatening or inspiring, but those same people being obviously fit and disciplined do look threatening or inspiring. An important aspect is that no one looks at those kids and thinks they're going to be revolutionaries, whereas another guy the same age but who is fresh out of bootcamp looks like a soldier and people know that.

But that's actually important. US labour history has been virtually erased and that's a huge problem.

But taking back redneck, though?
It's honestly too far gone. Like in the south, a lot of the people it's associated with now actually are people in the suburbs with decent houses and income. They just hate black people and listen to shitty pop-country. That's the identity at this point. It's a different thing now, and we can point to its past but it seems like we'd have trouble claiming legitimacy and rallying a successful leftist militia around the 'redneck' identity. It's kind of a "have you cake and eat it too" situation.

Because for a very long time, the Rich paid just enough guillotine tax that working people couldn't rationalize wasting thousands of dollars on guns and ammo.

They have like, kids to feed and a sense of reality, the working left in America.
They might have a handgun or a rifle, to hunt or protect their home. That's reasonable.

Now of course, it's different, but their decent Blue Collar Factory work is just plain gone. So not enough welfare and subway sandwiches paychecks to warrant even the defense rifle.

Also, the FBI said no.

Sort of reminds me of Milhouse's dad

That's why. Why doesn't this sign say "MAKE CAPITALISTS AFRAID AGAIN"? I mean for fucks sake, do these people have absolutely no awareness of the current political climate?

Honestly, it sounds like they have more than you do. Anti-capitalism is a much tougher rallying cause right now, and the USA has been fucked hard enough that economics have been pushed down a bit as far as concerns. Right now a lot of people are worried about the US's creeping authoritarianism, with emphasis on its being in the hands on racist nuts.

Consider the curious case of punching Richard Spencer in the face. Sidestepping economics as the foremost issue is an extremely good way for people who will continue to branded radicals to look less extremist than their accusers.

The american porky is too strong. Entire population has been brainwashed with capitalism=freedom.

If you don't have it in your country, FORM IT!

tbf not many countries have a militant left as strong as Turkey.