Where do I start with Adorno, lads?

where do I start with Adorno, lads?

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Dialectic of Enlightenment

Hegel and Marx> The One-Dimensional Man "Marcuse"> Dialects of enlightenment or The culture industry> Negative Dialectics

the thing that you can read on the go is philosophy of modern music you need only basic Hegel for that.

Are those > or →? Choose your Unicode carefully.

my dicc > your dicc
My dicc → your boypuss….

yeh i meant the progression of reading

The Ego and Its Own

I had to make sure okay!

Depending on how far you want to go into Adorno it's also good to lump in Kant's What Is Enlightenment. The second part of One Dimensional Man goes pretty heavily into the philosophy of Plato, Aristotle, Wittgenstein (who i never read so i don't know how accurate he is with Witty) but a good knowledge of philosophy up to that point is pretty needed in general before you engage with the Frankfurt school. Again, i don't know how far you want to get into this, whether you want to make an in depth study or just get an overview but i do recommend getting a good knowledge of philosophy up till you read marx, and then you can start streamlining into psychoanalysis, post-marxists like Lukac and a bit of phenomenology would help. Otherwise you'll be lost and may not retain much if you read Adorno without that knowledge.

The Dialectical Imagination by Martin Jay is a classic introduction to the Frankfurt School. I'd highly recommend it. As others have said, Dialectic of Enlightenment is also Adorno and Horkheimer's really notable work.

He asked only for getting into Adorno, i assume that he finished the Greeks and for Hegel he must have read at least Kant CoPR same with Marx.
If he wish to start with philosophy in general he must get this link. docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/pub
Tis a long way….

Some of his shorter essay stuff is pretty good and easy to understand if you want something lighter

If it takes that much reading and dedication to become class conscious, how do leftcoms expect that the working class will ever do this en masse, internationally?

You better sit in that armchair bucko

Nah fam, all you need is EndNotes

Left communists and other Marxists don't believe in notions of injecting "class consciousness" being a prerequirement for anything. The most conditionally enlightened of the working class will come to realize their conditions of existence primitively, and it is then the job of communists to tail them towards manifesting their function as revolutionary subject.

Start with How to Destroy Western Civilization, don't even think about starting on A Guide for Ending the White Race before that.

/lit/ please

pure slander. A lot of what Marcuse says in 1D Man is easy to digest, and the portion he dedicates to the Greek philosophers isnt overtly difficult. If you doubt what you're reading, you can always get a secondary text.

leftcom is literally religion holy shit

The working class has declined as a historical revolutionary agent. Today, that revolutionary potential lies with "the People":

The reemergence of "the People," in contrast to the steady decline of "the Proletariat," verifies the ascendancy of community over factory, of town and neighborhood over assembly line. The hand fits the glove perfectly—and clenched, it makes the real fist of our time that can advance by restoration, progress by conserving the radicality of the past, change by the catalytic act of preserving the very institutions Caesarism seeks to fragment and corporatism seeks to obliterate. Such tension—once it fully emerges between the locality and the centralized State, the citizen and power broker, the body politic and bureaucracy, democracy and totalitarianism—can never remain strictly defensive. - Bookchin

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I do think you need some understanding of analytical philosophy to understand what he's criticizing but the first chapters can be easily understood and are very insightful

Bookchin was ahead of his time

How so? A lot of his arguments on capitalist alienation dont trail too far off from marxist thought.

The real religion or better said religions are those that speak of inserting their personal Holy brand of politics into their favorite hand-picked revolutionary subject in their own enlightened ways and when it inevitably cannot do but fail because there's no material recourse for any kind of action and no real basis for thinking things fail to happen because people just haven't been taught to want them enough, ideological impurity is blamed.

Left com is also not what you're pissed at and call a religion, for left com is really just a faithful adherence to essential Marxist principles. Call Marxism a religion instead if you want your autism to be at least a little more accurately aimed at what triggers your current year sensibilities.

But user i am a farmer "used to post using islamig gommunism flag"… that doesn't make me unable to understand or not having the time for Econ, philosophy, theory, classical music etc…
The "Le working class are dump and can't into theroy" meme is a liberal meme and it needs to die.


I am not a lit fag but trust me… even in unis they don't give u a pass, you will succ the dicc of the Greeks like a good boi….

I meant that he critizes analytic philosophy / linguistics

I agree, the poster i was responding to is correct to steer OP onto 1DM before going to Adorno, it's just without proper knowledge those passages can be quite difficult. That's all i'm saying.

Class collaboration ahoy! Besides, Bookchin never seemed to have even understood what "proletariat" means. "Listen Marxist!" is almost embarrassing to read as all the "flaws" of Marxism he argues against are just his own misinterpretations.

he's a marxist alex jones

JUSTIN BIEBER IS MAKING YOU SUBMIT TO YOUR OVERLORDS

Since the end of the second world war, the middle class in the United States has grown to the point that it is a larger class than the traditional industrial proletariat. The emergence of a tertiary economy and salaried workers, are new economic sectors that did not exist when Marx was alive (to the point that they exist today anyway), and the emergence of these sectors necessitates a new analysis, not a stretching of older ones.

I wish you were wrong because when I decided to get into that work I was expected a real challenge and something new, but it was really just like listening to my college sociology professor and his polemics on Marx when we went past that chapter in the history of the social sciences.

It's no wonder Bookchin never got anywhere in modern revolutionary circles. Even Operaismo and market socialism have more traction in the intellectual world. The best his ideas have to show for themselves is a national liberation project in Syria, and pretty much all Bookchinites I've interviewed on the subject so far are saying it's not faithful to much of Bookchin at all and it's failing (which they're also blaming on them not being faithful to Bookchin very often, lol).

and the best you have to show today is a failing Cuba

Look at the flag, dawg. Left communism's never tried to appropriate that to its name.

The most we wear proudly is the October revolution (left SRs, left communist faction in the 3rd), the Dutch-German period of communism and the Italian period of communism. Also Situationism considered itself a spiritual successor to left communism, but I'd rather the anarchists tried to appropriate that since it wasn't worth much. Today it's just communization and the French ultra-left for left coms.

So yeah, MLs and other Stalinoids have dibs on Cuba, which I guess ain't too bad for a modern social democratic derivative.

oh sorry right

you don't even have a failing modern example of your ideology, just three abysmal attempts turn fascist

Russia turned fascist? News to me.

So tell me about what the Ukraine and especially Spain turned out like? Be Franco with me, please.

Benjamin is better

you're a pretty shitty leftcom

Russia took an opportune turn towards absolutist state capitalism under the red banner, not fascism. That's the official line for the left of communism, and left coms were basically the first on the left entirely to be against the impulsive use of "fascist" as an adjective for bad things. Take a gander: libcom.org/library/fascism-anti-fascism-gilles-dauve-jean-barrot (contains footnotes written as early as the '30s on the subject of hysterical use of the term).

How about Kekalonia and Kekhnovia though? You're keeping me cold.

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what books does the "read the greeks" meme even entail?

the ones that were written by greeks

whats his beef with jazz music