I'm trying to figure out what my ideology would be called.
I advocate for worker self-management of the means of production and delegative democracy both in the political and the economic sphere via worker councils. Production would be planned and for use rather than for profit. Labour vouchers would replace money.
I would agree with historical materialism and Marx's analysis of capitalism, but I don't necessarily believe that the abolition of the state is a desirable thing. I think that the police, laws, and prisons can be useful institutions, just that these institutions need to be democratised and changed in a socialist society.
I support reforms and participation in representative democracy as a way of setting the groundwork and raising support for socialism, but reject reformism as a way to get to socialism - it will ultimately need to be a social revolution.
Any help would be great. Thanks!
inb4 im liberal/socdem scum
Joshua Myers
Something amongst the lines of syndicalism i guess?
Liam Phillips
Sounds like pretty normal socialism
Easton Smith
Come home comrade!
Bentley Hughes
So I should probably read some bookchin, shouldn't I?
well op, welcome to Syndicalist-Democratic Conderalist-Luxemburgist-Democratic Socialism
Jaxson King
yep
James James
topfuckingkek
well shit thats gonna be a mouthful
Daniel Ramirez
to be honest, I thought this would've been a common enough position that there would be a greater consensus on what my ideology was lol
Mason Harris
/figuring out what each others ideology is/ thread?
I want leftists to actually start helping the working class instead of bourgie fucks blogging about the DSA or whatever the hottest new trend happens to be.
also I think industrial society needs to be viciously critiqued
Sebastian Williams
It seems to match up exactly with Luxemberg's thought, to be quite honest. Syndicalism would imply a strong connection to the idea that unions should be, in one way or another, the vehicle of the revolution and a structural basis for new society. DeLeonism (the Marxist response to anarcho-syndicalism) is pretty based, but what you've said matches up better with Luxemberg's "Reform Or Revolution".
It's a valid question, you prolier-than-thou parochial divider. How about "google Murray Bookchin"? Otherwise, go and camp if that's what you're going to call for.
Brayden Miller
I feel that part of the problem I have with calling myself a communist is the fact that "I don't necessarily believe that the abolition of the state is a desirable thing. I think that the police, laws, and prisons can be useful institutions, just that these institutions need to be democratised and changed in a socialist society." While I would agree in socialism, I wouldn't necessarily advocate a communist society for the reasons I described.
Isaiah Smith
As far as I know, Murray Bookchin talked about industrial society from an ecologic standpoint, not a primitivist standpoint which is likely where greenie is referring to.
Read Kaczynski
Grayson Morales
5.5/10 program, pretty fucking bourgeois. The fact that you've come here desperately seeking for a label proves slavery is in you nature.
Juan Brooks
Yeah, if you don't believe in the communist end goal, that limits your ideology a bit. You don't fall into either Marxism OR Anarchism.
You are still a socialist however, maybe Democratic Socialism? idk about that area of thought too much.
Colton Rogers
is this the birth of a new and epic meme?
Gabriel Parker
wew lad just fuq me up fam
Andrew Carter
Yes.
Anthony Hernandez
Hrm, yeah I suppose that does. Maybe I should read more.
Colton Perry
It's what more people should do. Him, and Pentii Linkola.
Ryan Torres
Industrialism is bad because of its effects on humans, not because it harms some magical deity known as "earth".
Jason Martin
What is the stance of communalism/democratic confederalism on the institutions that I've described? Being the police, laws, and prisons.
Ian Wright
Linkola might be a deep ecologist, but he did cover the effect of industrialism and overpopulation on humans.
Of course he's also a primitivist, which is why I take it with a grain of salt. Technology will be required to save civilization, but we for our own sake we should not become slaves of it.
I'm better versed in DemCon so I'll stick to that angle:
Rojava has a police force, the Asayish, but they're working on abolishing that and completely handing over the task of local security to community Civilian Defense Forces and Canton Defense Forces.
There is a mutually agreed upon constitutions, but overall it's local councils that make the laws, while parliament and government institutions exists for coordinating efforts.
They do have prisons, which appear to be controlled by the PYD. This is one thing that's not really clear to me and hope to find out more about once I go there.
Nathan Gomez
Oh okay, I see. Civilian defence forces and laws made by local councils are fine with me. I would just like some kind of institution that can ensure some level of organisation and safety.
Jayden Bailey
The YPG fits that role, besides that there isn't much need for the sort of justice and governing infrastructure seen in liberal democracies.
Communities can manage and defend themselves fine, for foreign enemies they can just band together. Besides a little chaos is good.
Josiah Rivera
I see, thanks for your answers! I think I'll keep pondering this and go read more.
