Holla Forums intellectuals discussing automation

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/115814644

Looks like even the Holla Forumsyps are worried about automation. But a lot of the responses are so retarded and so inhuman that I want to see all people who are regular Holla Forums users tracked and executed by firing squad.

It's like they would rather accept a dystopia where the ruling class completely control everything or there is mass genocide than simply accept that socialism is the only real way forward. It's amazing how brainwashed these fucks are.

A lot of them are also arguing against UBI even though this is the only way you can reform the system under capitalism. UBI is shit but let's face it the capitalists either have this or a revolution.

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Authoritarians always think they are the 1/100 that live from the purging of undesirables. Pro tip,most everybody is a moron, myself included, and will be in that 99% who "evolve or die" in such a situation.

The fact that they're on Holla Forums let alone just 4chan shows that they are far more likely to be under the category of the undesirables than the ruling class who will survive the culling.

This is the thing with petty bourgeois manchildren - they're even more evil than actual bourgeoisie sometimes. While the bourgeoisie are scum they at least understand that they need to watch what they say otherwise the masses will revolt against them. The petty bourgeoisie don't really have this self-awareness I feel.

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They're classcucked on two main layers of bourgeois propaganda, that is of the status-quo and fascistic.

Expect they have literally no connection to fascism on economic theory.

There are a lot of them on Holla Forums

To be fair you're not going to find any sort of coherent ideology from cherrypicking posts on imageboards, user

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This guy is a fucking retard.

surprise surprise

Holla Forums's ideology is the final form of economic conservatism. "Survival of the fittest. Fuck the little guy". That's why I have more hope for liberals. They're much closer to anti-capitalism than conservatards

You're lying to yourself if you keep thinking that this isn't characteristic of Holla Forums as a whole.

What do you mean? Black death was a great thing for productive forces in Europe!

He's a Holla Forumsyp of course he's going to try and defend his friends.

Hmm, the far right hate jews yet they talk like the "evil" jews they make up in there heads.

Really makes you think…

Wouldn't this lead to a splintering within the far right as it would create internal class conflict? Most far right retards are infact lower class people and without them Trump nor Brexit would have happened. You have the well-educated upper class far right people advocating for genocide of the lower classes, this would directly affect their own brethren


Far-right only hates Jews because they want to be the ones in power.

I haven't posted on Holla Forums since shortly after it was brought back when they deleted /new/, it's still stupid to cherrypick posts and make assertions on how that board feels about something

"Petty bourgeois" isn't an insult to be thrown around willy-nilly. Ignore the tankies calling everyone that - none of them have read Marx, and I mean none of them. Petty-bourgeois refers to the small business owners and self-employed, those who own MoPs but still do the work more characteristics of proles.

Holla Forumsyps fall under the class of lumpenproletariat - that class of criminals and misfits who do the best they can to leech off of the rest of society's creations.

Damn… You're right. That really fired my nuerons

many of them are the children of petty bourgs. you know small business owners who have their kids grow up in mcmansions in the suburbs and tell them "dad grew up a poor too but he got a business loan unlike the other poors." petty bourgs work their asses off like proles but will inevitably defend capitalism because if their business is moderately successful they can afford a semi lavish suburban lifestyle

>>>/out/

Jesus christ these people should be shot

They don't actually consider this contradictory though. In the first case it's da joos that cause it while in the second case it's just the "natural" way of things. At least I used to be a polyp and that's the way I thought

Can you find five posters simultaneously making both these claims?

Seriously this is like collecting Holla Forums posts ironically celebrating Stalin's treatment of kulaks and posts decrying Stalin/Stalinism and declaring Holla Forums BTFO because you can't like Stalin AND hate Stalin at the same time, commies BTFO

what happened fam? why were you like that?

Well, lets say they accept that fact. Does it make their authoritarianism better or worse?

I was 17 and an edgy retard that liked saying nigger and fuck jews

100% of people are morons. Intelligent people are a myth.

this shits is like what alex jone says that the elites are going to do,

"just kill them lmao", fuck these guys, i think violence is justified against people like this 2bh

This is why they invented the Gulag.

Also what's the deal with the complaining about millenials? Is 4/pol/ just filled with grumpy 40 year old redneck dads at this point?

If we didn't live in a liberal or "socialist" society with social safety nets, most of these people would have starved to death or be homeless by now

they're special millennials, duh

Millenials is anyone that isn't them, when in reality it encompasses anyone born from the 80's to early 2000's.

I spend a lot of time with these kinds of people outside of an anonymous setting, better to know thy enemy and all that jazz. It really is not uncommon for them to hold both these beliefs simultaneously as strange as it may sound. I even confront them about it and they shrug it off saying jews are just sneaky while non-whites/asians are just lazy.

That is a goal of Holla Forums though. You see, ever other white but them is a leech but they are a hard-working, noble, Real American. The role of the free market is to inflict its justice upon inferiors and destroy the weak. These people aren't exactly reading economic theory (of any kind) to defend their positions, they just know that the darkies would starve in a real free market, for sure.

He's not wrong though. It's not a matter anymore if people will die. But how many, and who can be saved in the end.
Eventually the bar for doing any sort of paid work will be so high that billions will be out of work and be left to starve.

This is why I see coops and communes as the only solution for those that aren't part of the 1%.

Jesus H Christ these people are psychopathic. I thought for the longest time I was the only person on the chans with a shred of empathy and this is fucking why.

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Lot's of small business owners?

praise G*d (kek) and mess with the goyim (normies)

Poe's law my man. For every edgy kid posting that 'as a joke; there is some guy who really does think that.

Moralfag. The thing that always switched me off socialism was the compassion stuff, but then I actually read through Das Kapital I and II and realized that I couldn't form any arguments against it, and learned that it was literally in my self-interest due to my class position as a proletarian to be a communist. Left wing rhetoric about the poor still annoys me on an level I can't shake somehow though.

If you want to attract half of proles you need the soppy "think of the suffering" arguments, but if you want to attract the other conservative edgelord half, you need to appeal to their self-interest.

Going to be funny to see how they cope with the next recession.

How do we stop idiots from ruining comedy? I miss the age of irony where I could say something stupid and people would laugh. Now I have to be serious all the time or people treat me like I'm an asshole.

So basically conservative proles have false consciousness because of pride and a desire to be tough instead of getting handouts, even though its the bourgeoisie who are being given the handout of enclosure to form private property and then having that defended by the state.

I know because I used to be one, and the wrong kind of arguments for socialism still switch me off emotionally, even though I now agree with it on a factual level.

In addition to "Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company."
Holla Forums is now comprised almost exclusively of unironic Hitler worshipers.

See

Their perception of the "Jews" is a mirror image of what they are themselves.
Selfish, psychopathic, dishonest, deviant, exploitative, murderous.

They denigrate others, and wish to enslave and exterminate those they consider below them. Everyone else is just a useful idiot to be exploited. Even women and children must be brutally slaughtered.
The state and its surveillance apparatus need to be expanded under their control, with every form of free speech or differentiating thought rooted out. Privacy would be eliminated.

Non-"white" nations (Basically everyone that isn't as "pure" as them) would either be balkanized or physically annihilated.

Their fantasies of global domination read like something straight from the Protocols.

hilariously, many Holla Forumsacks are part Jewish, unbeknownst to themselves

it's partially a desire to be tough, but imo, it's primary driven by a feeling of being oppressed by the weak/leeches. many conservative proles are happy to get handouts because they view themselves as deserving. however, no one else deserves them, because they are leeches. they also value fucking over someone else higher than their own well-being.

imagine you went to a conservative prole and made him an offer:


they will choose the second one.

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Taking a STEM job isn't going to save you from declining wages. You and a few million others thought the same thing, and STEM wages will go to shit.

Besides, technology workplaces are increasingly becoming shit anyway. Few years from now these places will look exactly like factory slave labor. With declining wages come declining insecurity, and strengthening of the capitalist class.

This is what happens when people don't think in totality and refuse to understand Marxism.


There's a long way to go before things becomes cheaper from automation. Automation is still costly. The gap between the here and there, will force millions into destitution.


You'll get hung to dry even if you're uneducated.


Once again. Doesn't understand supply and demand. When people flock to a few jobs their wages would instantly go down.


Without aggregate demand in the system, your small business isn't going to survive either. When millions of people lose their jobs and they don't have any money they're not going to your small boutique to buy stuff.

Such a situation would be disasterous for capitalism as lower prices across the board equals less profit. If it couldn't recover itself by raising the prices up again, encouraging inflation, or inventing new industries with higher profit rates then you could expect that to be a crippling, if not deadly crisis.

Yes, good little software engineer, innovate yourself right into the grave.

Detroit would like a word with you.

Cars haven't gotten cheaper however, they always stayed around the same price if you consider inflation.

The cars have stayed the same price but the profits for the manufacturers have exploded

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petite bourgeois edgy free market fundamentalist are undoubtly the biggest obnoxious sociopaths on Holla Forums, more so than even stormfags (atleast when their not overlapped which is ironic since "the J00s" are th biggeat benefiters of capitalism).

It's just gonna be another "the Jews robbed me of a successful career!" and then we'll be able to laugh at how poor they are

the absurdity is cartoon villain tier

and as things get cheaper, the cost of living go down, if the cost of living goes down the cost of labor goes down, and everyone who is replaceable is still just paid enough to survive. Eventually that pool of replaceable labor will include STEM

sometimes I like the white nationalists more than the propertarians, because at least the nats have empathy for people (although they have blinders as to who is considered people) while propertarians are straight up sociopaths

Tbh we need better propaganda that socialism is in the self-interest of 99% of people.

More proof that Pol Pot was right. Particularly the regarding would-be-intellectual STEMlords. I'd like to see them try to code when they're dead.

ITT: people not understanding 4/pol/'s advance postmodern-retrofuturistic humor.

you're right, that'd make them socdems

poe's law

Why do shilling campaigns end up on leftypol as proof of pols derangement? This is oddly similar to when communists adapt neoliberal talking points to be anti-Trump

It hasn't been. AI written software is bizarrely sub-optimal. So as long as AI capable of writing even sufficient software is expensive, 35k per head farms of desperate college grads will be cheaper.

Also le- "comp sci" meme. You mean computer software engineering. Study of AI is however a science.

So after the revolution we track down all of this scum and put them in front of a firing squad, right?

token fascist sympathizer here. the Edgy lolbertarians portrayed in cuck-chan do not represent 8pol or nu-pol. atleast some storm-fags will adopt the ideology of classical facism, which is "caring for "your" people". the anons in the screenshots just seem like edgy redditors in denial.