Smurf Accounts: griefing, escapism or cowards running from the right tier of challenge for their rank?

Smurf Accounts: griefing, escapism or cowards running from the right tier of challenge for their rank?

From shooters to card games Smurf Accounts exist. Do you do it? do you hate it? is it a bit of fun or a bitch move?

How do you feel about them?

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Matchmaking is cancer and has no place in online gaming.

No I don't use them, and it's fucking retarded unless the sole purpose is to grief, and even then that's being a pretty big faggot.

Sometimes I just want to kick the shit out of my lessers. I will not apologize for that.

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At least you are an honest soul.

So you are too scared to be challenged and think smashing new players is a good way to make you feel good about yourself ?

Holla Forums in a post.

I don't grief because I don't play modern garbage

Leveling alternate accounts is a completely valid form of "smurfing" you fucking casuals

I don't understand the appeal, the only remotely """competitive""" game I played is Rocket League, which has achieved meme game status on Holla Forums and matches aren't really that fun when the enemy team is shit or they're wiping the floor with us.
Also what kind of a drooling retard would you need to be to actually buy the 2nd copy of a game just so you can feel good stomping people who don't even have any idea what's going on ?

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Also, making a new account to start from scratch again, without having to delete your previous characters or whatever is a perfectly legitimate thing to do.

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When people at your level leave no margin for error that's no fun, and sometimes one wants to have fun.

The competitive ranked try hard shit show is relatively recent, peop

So cowardice.

Oh shit guys, he hits the "Matchmake" button on his only account, what a proper brave boy.

Matchmaking is retarded and does nothing except serve as an excuse to not have to git gud.
It's natural to get your shit kicked in if you're shit at a game. The solution is to get better, not rail against the people doing you the favour of nullifying the mistakes the devs made in game design.

Jesus, how much of a baby can someone be? Getting your ass handed to you is a huge part or breaking the ice of a game. It's also how you learn most of the important bits of metagaming, unless your idea of gaming is to "theorycraft" before you've even gotten a grip on the basics.

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I have smurfed from time to time and it's usually with a new/low-ranked friend in order not to thrust him into high skill lobbies before he's ready. Depending on the game I'll play dumb too knowing that I can make it up later if I really need to.

I don’t do smurfs because its a waste of time, and you could spot smurfs from a mile away just by looking at their mannerisms once, i mean goddamn they don’t even try to hide it.
Either way here just went ahead and gave a first-hand proof. They’re a bunch of faggots with inferiority complex and are probably unable to break the skill ceiling. Because Matchmaking already gave you enough lemmings to slaughter, going smurf instead re-affrims that you’re insecure about punching above your weight
tl;dr Smurfs are the manlets of gaming

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Giving an actual explanation of what they are might help.

It's a sign that we should go back to the server model instead of trying to make matchmaking work for team-based games.

When you play a game long enough and all the people you are matched up against are literal autistic meta-fags who stream and stopped having fun ages ago, but they continue to play "cuz donations".
Beating these people is actually pretty depressing because you know that you have become one of them at that point.

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This.

nigga what. its making a second account in a ranked game to stomp beginners. this terms been around as long as 'loot' or 'mob' has.

You basically have to have Smurf playing friends in order to join them when you're first starting and learning a particular game, unless you're a master of whatever genre and can pick up changes rapidly. Otherwise you're just gonna get destroyed by people who know the game and character capabilities better than you do.

Have you never played a video game?

Smurfing is only a problem because of matchmaking
In addition Matchmaking level is not an indicator of skill and exists to groom players

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Never heard it used before. Have heard of the concept. I like the idea. The purpose of a game is fun as much as it is expansion of a skill set. As a point of relaxation, beat the shit out of the easiest difficulty, sure.

sounds like you and op are salty somebody better than you stomped you

I know what I feel about OP at least.

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Matchmaking is a poor substitute for the old clan battles and competitive scrimmages of the past. Back then you'd need to have an organic reputation built up to participate in higher-level games. Now you just pubstomp until you can no longer do so. Smurfing is just a symptom of the larger disease of trustless ladder systems, purveyor of many other fine products such as tryhardism, ladder anxiety, cancerous player behavior, no community servers, no custom games or modding, cosmetic paypigs, lootcrates, and devs forcing their game into e-sports.

If you want to play with your friend, play with your friend. That you feel like playing is a waste if you don't play ranked is a sign that you have been consumed by the cancer.

It's not even about ranked, CSGO has no way to play 5v5 vanilla besides abandoned custom servers or ranked. Casual mode isn't just 'unranked', it's watered down 20 player bullshit.

Find 3 more players, it lets you queue regardless of rank when you have a full 5-player party. Normalfag friends sometimes convince me to play with them

This is your brain on e-sports.

If the game is an rpg and has leveling mechanics like runescape then its pretty fun to make a certain character just for pvp situations, on the other hand its extremely autistic at the same time because you limit yourself to the options you can do on the account.

Don't really care, everyone needs their ass handed to them once in a while. Back when server browsers were common, "smurfs" were just regular good players.
It's honestly a bit pathetic that they'd buy the game twice just to shit on new players, but what can you do? It's human nature.

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Nice trips but you're wrong.
Spoken like a born loser.

oh i'm sorry,i don't speak gay or underageb&

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How else will you see how the game is played by competent players? In games with protected matchmaking, there's always massive disconnect between low and high level players. I've been on both sides, and I don't care when I come up against a smurf.
The one universal rule for pvp games - the only people who complain about smurfs are actual shitters at the game itself.

A lot of people don't play multiplayer games or online games. I hate them and such don't play, and as such never heard of 'smurf account' before this thread.

As long as they aren't actually ruining the game environment I don't give a fuck about them, but if they are its pretty gay (as in the volume of them is so much that new players can't get a game without being fucked to the point of giving up on the game). They can kill a multiplayer game pretty easily if allowed.

Smurfing is amazingly fun in a bad game. Think of a game that sucks, and then imagine playing online against people that fucking blow. It feels amazing.

I don't usually smurf, it's not fun normally, but if you're playing a game where you can really piss someone off because the game is a piece of shit (like League of Legends), it's a lot of fun. Specially when you start provoking them.

Shitty games are fun to smurf because they are inherently broken, and smurfing makes the broken parts of the games painfully apparent.

It's gay and a waste of time 90% of the time, though.

you're not very bright are you?

only people who complain about smurfs are shitters. the only way to git gud is to play against better players.
when you get shit on by some gay killhole in rainbow thats how you learn

Yes user, Warcraft 2 came out in 2013. 9 years after World of Wacraft and over a decade after Warcraft 3. You caught me, i'm John Titor bitch.

There is one asymmetrical game I am not going to mention the name of, but I only play it at low ranks, and I intentionally de-rank whenever my rank gets too high.
The reason for this is that the game is absurdly imbalanced in favour of of Side A.
The only way to have fun in the game as Side B is to either:
A) Play only against Side A players who dont know how to exploit the godawful balance problems yet.
B) Be a complete masochist.

I don't smurf because stomping a team of retards isn't fun. You may get the initial rush as you kill one after another, but soon it'll get replaced by apathy as you realise they're literally worse than AI bots and that there's no challenge to speak of. In games I feel particularly good at, I always go and join the losing team so that I get to play against someone decent – we usually lose the round due to the majority of team being shitters, but at least I had fun trying to turn the tide.

Or they can just tell you what to do and you can Fucking listen , I play Squad and there are people who didn't even read the control scheme and they cry all die on chat , asking about what each key does

I don't support smurfing , I want enemies that either are better enough than me that I can learn , or enemies that make 51v49 games and we keep outsmarting each other which leads to everybody getting better

I had a situation like this in beta of Argo ,There was one guy who always did wide flanks and sniping, and I did sneaking , we played some games together first , And than I was playing against him and we both had to switch tactics because we knew each other too good

This turned into a rant about the absolute state of fps players

I wonder if at some point they will start banning it harder
All it takes is one sales faggot to say
"People are leaving because they entry level is to high"
So it all depends on your patience , maybe play with bots or run around in the test range
I guess not everybody want their game to be Dark Souls because you get in a match with max lvl enemies that should play against other max lvl enemies and not you
But it all depends on what you want from the game
I would like to see a ranking system in the game I play so I don't have to deal with fucking noobs that can't think , they are not just bad at the game , They actively don't want to get better and came to a "milisim" so they can run around with M249 and pretend they are cool but will never fucking lay cover fire for you

For now it became popular to call in game squads something like "500+ hours or fuck off" with different effect
I am at the level of disdain and salt that I want hour counters(which can be cheated because sitting in the menu counts) and how much the person paid for the game be displayed next to their nickname
Of course devs want money ,and the game is 50% like every fucking month , which pushed veterans out , and changed skilled players country from 90% to 1%
There is also Clanboys problem , because they play together and leave together so you can loose half the server population and once
And they often instead of showing the best discipline and skill that Clans should represent are just fucking around being glorified randoms with a clan tag ,Choice between noobs and noobs with a clan tag is no choice at all

And then there are the Vehicle Squads ,which means 2 faggots in a locked squad, taking an APC type vehicle that should be Armored Personnel Carrier and just ride around the map getting frags not transporting anybody
One of the reason I quit BF4 was 100/0 99/0 immortal tanks and npc's and now Squad has the same symptoms
I just hate the type of people that go into a "milisim" just to fuck around and ruin it
Why can't they just fuck off and play Gaynite ?

Sounds like someone doesnt know how to play Casual, or at the very least get good at the game. Theres difference between being good by a small amount, and then theres a point where the smurf 1v10's an entire team essentially.

That sounds like DbD user.
I got to rank 1 as the worst characters on side B

Yeah dead by daylight sure fucked up the one job they had, make killers actually fucking threatening.

Matchmaking is gay and I admire "smurfs" for breaking it.

The high player count fucks with the design. You can't perform the strats that you usually do with 10 players because you can't rotate or deceive the opposite team. Not to mention that it doesn't have team kill so people get through your shots.

They are pussies that cant adapt or grow. One can imagine how hard life is hitting them if they cant even be asses to struggle in a video game.

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Just a part of the larger problem that is matchmaking. Bring back servers and lobbies.

This cam be fixed by making account creation cost money, either they don't smurf or the proprietors get money, win win. Gratis multiplayer games will always have them in masse though, it's just too fun to curbstomb noobs and ruin their days.

I actually found that playing ranked in Rocket League actually gives you a stable match-up. Though that's not too hard when casual is literally just randoms thrown together. It's the one game I don't mind playing ranked in. I think that's mostly because the game isn't all that complicated and matches are only 5 minutes long not counting over-time.

I don't understand why matchmaking is so difficult to get "right".

I have too, even done perkless runs too. Its just that I am not willing to do it anymore because its about as fun as pounding nails through my dick. I will start playing it seriously again instead of just fucking around at low ranks when they fix the balance

This. If someone is good they should win often, if someone is bad they should lose often. Matchmaking attempts to "fix" this by tainting the matches with selections designed to make good players lose more often and bad players win more often until everybody is at a perfect 50/50 win/loss.

It is inherently communistic. They want everybody to be equal, and I believe that is morally wrong.

That doesn't work, people still buy copies of CSGO to do exclusively smurf accounts. Its at a point where CSGO doesn't go on sale at all anymore, and I don't think you can gift it.

When i played Fighting games alot, I'd lose my battle points to reach mid level players (not lowest). The mid level players are the most saltiest and delusional. I'd get way more hatemail playing mid-level players, it was great.

This.

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Valve like the extra income anyway.

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Anyone who bitches about them needs to git gud.

afaik know match making wasn't this cancerous until valve got their hands on it. valve ruins everything.

I'm checking these numbers

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As well you should.

hexes soon fellow autist

Very good.

Top players have positive win rates, around 75-80% for the top 1%. If you are 50-50 you are just mediocre, like the rest of the mass of mediocres at the game. Furthermore, really terrible people, bottom of the barrel, your bronze league shitters, have ~30% winrates so at least there is that. This is completely natural if your game has a huge player pool and the matchmaking algorithm is working into matching players of the same skill level. You can only have high win rates if you are a very, very good player and it is at the top 5% of the player pool. You can do this by only playing with your shit friends exclusively or getting really good at the game if it has regional/global matchmaking. Easy path or hard path.

t. ASSFAGGOTS designer

kys

let me guess, you think 90% of players are mediocre and have average-level skill or lower?

because 90% of the player population somehow fits into the 50% of the player population with average-level skill or lower, right?

perhaps your problems with basic arithmetic explains why you are an ASSFAGGOTS designer

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its called the bell curve you dip

You really should learn what a probability distribution is.

In any given population there is a difference in ability. In games this can come from a combination of strategy, skill, game knowledge and adaptation. Some people, the lower percentile, are absolutely horrific at the game. Some are rather bad but at least have the basics, some are decent at execution but lack a few key things.

Ultimately, there is no reason for someone to interact with someone vastly outside of their skill and execution level. Those who are bad will not be able to learn anything from being trounced. Those who are at a high level will gain nothing in destroying someone who had no chance.

This is why things like weight class exist and why professional sports are played only after several tiers of lower leagues separate the best players from the general population. Yes, it is possible that someone can fight outside their weight class, or a particularly talented High School Football team be able to pull out a victory against a struggling College team, but these are rather rare circumstances.

If a matchmaking algorithm ever gets you into a bracket where you win as much as you lose then you are in the right bracket. You will not get more wins unless you improve at some aspect of the game. If you want a 100% or near 100% win rate, simply play against bots. There's nothing wrong with Botsturbation to get a small endorphin rush in a game you enjoy.

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Matchmaking is ok
as long as you have a mode with matchmaking rating and a mode where anything goes.
Which by the way, is most games nowadays (quick match)
It is inherently wrong when games like Overwatch turn the quickmatch into matchmaking algorithm as well

Fighting/FPS/RTS games are the ultimate griefing experience. They are built around the idea of ruining your opponent's life.
If you're playing something where you're not supposed to be ruined, but still are, then it's purely your own fault and you get what you deserve.

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Smurfs only exist on games with retarded "muh elo" matchmaking systems. If you play a game where you can possibly smurf then you are a massive faggot.

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