Why was Turok never bigger than Golden Eye? When everybody talks about classic...

Carter Robinson
Carter Robinson

Why was Turok never bigger than Golden Eye? When everybody talks about classic titles for the N64 or FPS games for consoles, they always mention Golden Eye first and not Turok. I recently played the HD remaster and only now do I just realize how good this game was! It feels like all the levels are a connected world filled with secrets and hidden places to explore. It looks better and is more creative with characters than Golden Eye was. It seems bigger and is just more fun to play. Why does Golden Eye get more praise?

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Ian Gray
Ian Gray

I don't know. Back in my PC days Turok was bigger than Golden Eye, because i never had N64.

Luis Scott
Luis Scott

Because Goldeneye was the most popular Bond movie in decades and completely reinvigorated the franchise which had been on hiatus after the Timothy Dalton period. Not too mention that Goldeneye was a genuinely great game, a shooter with objectives that was widely available to consumers based on a popular movie at the time.

I spent an untold amount of time playing Goldeneye as a kid, it was as good as they say. Turok is a fine game and Turok 2 was pretty decent as well, I remember enjoying both when I was young as well. But Turok doesn't have personality like Bond, Turok doesn't have a movie. Also after Turok 2 I heard the games got progressively worse, Rage Wars didn't even have a single player campaign if memory serves.

Daniel Lee
Daniel Lee

Goldeneye was more popular because of its multiplayer and because it was in an existing and high-profile universe. It's really not that good a game otherwise particularly compared to PC shooters of the time.

Josiah Rivera
Josiah Rivera

No Multiplayer

Levi Hernandez
Levi Hernandez

Goldneye is a better game, the empty levels of turok filled with boring combat encounters and unimaginative platforming padding the game was far less engaging than objective based game play where you are doing an entirely different thing level to level, where enemies are satisfying to fight and the game is teeming with variety.

Turok is short, has levels way too big for the content in them, the bosses suck, and once you beat the first stage you've essentially got an expectation of what you'll get from the rest. Why did all these turok shit eaters turn up after nightdive got kaisers port in active production? Turok sucks and the only good Turok is 3.

Michael Jenkins
Michael Jenkins

there are no PC shooters like Goldeneye, and it is better than many of its competition on the PC.

Liam Roberts
Liam Roberts

Turok 2 was more popular than the 1st, on 64 it had fog and lag out the ass if I can remember and no mp didnt help either when you had 4 controller ports.

Nolan Green
Nolan Green

By that logic, movie based games should always be great.

Goldeneye was the death of the Bond film franchise. It turned him into a cuck.

Joseph Hill
Joseph Hill

there are no PC shooters like Goldeneye,
Because there's no reason to make an FPS as limited as Goldeneye on PC
and it is better than many of its competition on the PC.
It did some mildly interesting things but overall it's mostly just notable for pushing FPS tech on consoles.

Elijah Anderson
Elijah Anderson

Because there's no reason to make an FPS as limited as Goldeneye on PC
goldeneye is less limited than comparable PC shooters of the time. Less rhetoric more meat.
It did some mildly interesting things but overall it's mostly just notable for pushing FPS tech on consoles.
being an objective based shooter is more than mildly interesting, as well as having enemies with varied reactions based on where you hit them. It also meaningfully impact game play. Give an argument next post.

Jaxon Nelson
Jaxon Nelson

But Goldeneye didn't have any secrets and was too linear. Visually, Turok has held up better. It has better weapons.

Aiden Jenkins
Aiden Jenkins

Goldeneye had multiplayer and had the bond license.

goldeneye is less limited than comparable PC shooters of the time
Quake 1 was released a year before goldeneye. What the fuck are you smoking?

Owen Ortiz
Owen Ortiz

Quake was better than Goldeneye too!

Andrew Evans
Andrew Evans

But Goldeneye didn't have any secrets and was too linear
secrets are arbitrary. Many levels allowed you to complete objectives in whichever order you wish.

Turok has held up better.
being able to see more than 20 feet ahead of you makes goldeneye more visually appealing. Plus not having repeating textures making up the entirety of the level.

It has better weapons.
the first turok had pretty lame standard FPS weapons. Goldeneye has a large variety of weapons across at the time, non-standard weapon archetypes. I'd say they're about even there.

Quake 1 was released a year before goldeneye.
quake 1 isn't "less limited" than goldeneye, and something being "less limited" isn't a legitimate point. Give it some substance.

Kevin Powell
Kevin Powell

quake 1 isn't "less limited" than goldeneye, and something being "less limited" isn't a legitimate point.
"less limited" isn't a legitimate point.
You were the one who fucking said that here

Thomas Green
Thomas Green

yes, we have IDs here. Are you going to substantiate it? Give me a PC shooter where you can target enemies from head to toe, each limb, eliciting a different reaction to wherever you tag them. Give me a PC shooter where you can dual wield every weapon with it not being locked to a power up. Give me a PC shooter where every level is built upon completing objectives and not just getting to the end switch, many levels which give you the opportunity to complete those objectives however you wish.

Better yet, stay on fucking subject and tell me how Turok is better than that. Go on.

Jayden Martinez
Jayden Martinez

By that logic, movie based games should always be great.
Not at all just why it was widely popular, the brand and name is already established. James Bond movies have been around since the 60s, with films being produced evey 2 years at one point. Ian Flemings novels have been around even longer. However Goldeneye is by far the most successful film to game adaption in vidya history. You could argue Goldeneyes success is responsible for some of the abominations that came afterwards.

As for the movie Goldeneye is was extremely popular at the time. It was far more intelligent and less campy than the Roder Moore era and Brosan had more personality than Timothy Dalton. The central theme in Goldeneye is betrayal, which is always an interesting theme. Sean Beans 006 betrays James, MI6 and later his accomplice Ourumov. General Ourumov betrays the Russian Federation, however his motivations are his view that the Russian Federation is a betrayal of the Soviet Union. Boris the hacker betrays Natalya. The assassin Xenia fucks her prey and then murders them in the act, a betrayal of trust when their guard is down. The villians are all unique and their motivations pretty fleshed out. The only weak point of the movie is that Trevelyn's grand plan is just a bank heist (which Bond calls him out on). I don't understand your reasoning for Bond being a cuck in the film. Other films perhaps, but not Goldeneye.

Owen Turner
Owen Turner

quake 1 isn't "less limited" than goldeneye
fully online multiplayer
faster movement complete with larger levels
more enemy variety than just "goon with gun"
extensive mod support which prevented the game from being invalidated even in the face of sequels
This isn't even counting all the technological accomplishments Quake had.
and something being "less limited" isn't a legitimate point
and here we are moving the goalposts

Nathaniel Martinez
Nathaniel Martinez

Okay guys, lets review few things, Turok and Golden Eye were both released in 1997, what else we have releasing in 1996-1997?

The Terminator: SkyNET, Bethesda Softworks, 1996
Duke Nukem 3D, 3D Realms, 1996
Alien Trilogy, Probe Entertainment, 1996
Heretic: Shadow of the Serpent Riders, Raven Software, 1996
Final Doom, id Software, 1996
Quake, id Software, 1996
Blood, Monolith Productions, 1997
Doom 64, Midway Games, 1997
Redneck Rampage, Xatrix Entertainment, 1997
Shadow Warrior, 3D Realms, 1997
Hexen II, Raven Software, 1997
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II, LucasArts, 1997
Quake II, id Software, 1997

You think with all those releases those two were the most important ones?

Camden Reyes
Camden Reyes

You claimed that less limited isn't an argument and yet you yourself only said the same thing. I'm not getting drawn into your shitfest I'm asking you to explain why an argument works for you and the very same thing doesn't for someone else.

Alexander Perry
Alexander Perry

14531553
the game solely consisted of going from point a to point b and shoot everything in sight.
and taking pictures, planting trackers, planting bombs. At least play the games you talk about.

there we go, some substance.
fully online multiplayer
agreed, although multiplayer is multiplayer and goldeneye has that. Different types.
faster movement complete with larger levels
agreed about faster movement, the levels are about the same size, but it varies. Something being big doesn't mean it's good. Goldeneyes levels are also much more dense.
more enemy variety than just "goon with gun"
agreed, although enemy variety isn't the goal of goldeneye, it's objective completion. Guards with different guns and AI patterns changed up how you dealt with combat encounters in goldeneye pretty well. Having a guard with a grenade launcher is a world apart from one with dual kobbs.
extensive mod support which prevented the game from being invalidated even in the face of sequels
I agree, to an extent. But now that we're done reading the back of the box, lets talk about mechanics and level design, the actual meat of the games as they were at their respective times of relevance.

14531559
*tips fedora* heil total biscuit

something being less limited can be worlds apart in what it means on a case by case basis. Either you can be talking about how the levels are point A to point B or how levels can have numerous goals for you to complete in whichever order you choose. Or it can mean having a level editor vs not, or it can mean being able to jump vs being able to not. Substantiate them by saying something meaningful. That's why it doesn't work.

Tyler Murphy
Tyler Murphy

Here I'll break it down for you:


This is your post. In it you say only "goldeneye is less limited than comparable PC shooters of the time." and this is apparently fine.
This is another post by you. In it you claim "something being "less limited" isn't a legitimate point". Apparently now only saying less limited is not fine. You are operating a double standard. I have no stake in this argument I just want to see you explain yourself. I suspect you're really a cuckchan rapefugee who forgot we have IDs which would also explain why you're blidingly defending Goldeneye.

Aaron Phillips
Aaron Phillips

I substantiated how goldeneye is less limited. Many PC shooters were still operating on the doom rules of find keys, hit switches, kill dudes along the way, reach the end of the level. Dudes you shoot either die, flinch (or not), or gib. In Goldeneye they react to where they're hit, have subtle behavior like sneezes, scratches, and fly swatting which does influence how they react to your presence, stealth is an option in goldeneye to a point, with slappers acting as a 1-hit-KO from behind. None of this is things I haven't said already. You should read the thread.

Talking about games in detail and objecting to stupid arguments like le turok is better because it has secrets and is more creative which is as vague as can be – that is absolute cuckchan shit. If you're afraid to talk about the details of the games, what sort of conclusions should I draw about you?

Sebastian Wilson
Sebastian Wilson

since this is thread about old games nobody talks about, I'm going to throw this one out there, Starsiege: Tribes (1998)

Adrian Morris
Adrian Morris

oy vey remember turok, watch the movie we're going to put out next year

Brody Campbell
Brody Campbell

I think the answer is pretty obvious OP.

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Josiah Russell
Josiah Russell

Oh whoops, wrong image.

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Jordan Campbell
Jordan Campbell

personal favorite

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Carter Hernandez
Carter Hernandez

I hardly ever replay Goldeneye compared to Perfect Dark or Turok, but I think the Goldeneye poster has a point. Goldeneye was a genuinely innovative FPS compared to Turok that introduced many things that had previously been unheard of in the genre. Turok was sort of like Doom or Descent with longer levels.

Gabriel Thomas
Gabriel Thomas

On the other hand Turok definitely had smarter default controls than Goldeneye, which Rareware noticed and rectified for Perfect Dark. And Iguana must have noticed the context-sensitive body parts in Goldeneye because they had some fun with it in Turok 2.

Charles Peterson
Charles Peterson

thread is going nicely
insecure fags have to come and ruin it
Every damn time. Why does Nintendo trigger you pcfags so much?

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Hudson Taylor
Hudson Taylor

Also more on topic it's because Goldeneye is was more advanced and honestly just more fun.

Luke Thompson
Luke Thompson

You're ignoring goldeneyes various control schemes, which even allows you to use two controllers for dual analog control.

William Young
William Young

Doom
moddable, indefinite content
fast paced
multipayer with more than 4 people
Quake
same deal
People had better games to be, in all honesty. Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are fantastic, for console games. They'd be even better if they were originally released on PC

Parker Perez
Parker Perez

while Turok is technically a better game
its nowhere near exciting as concept

John Gonzalez
John Gonzalez

turok is an objectively worse game

John Morgan
John Morgan

his mouth is shut
looks superior to me

Hudson Clark
Hudson Clark

/reddit/index.html

Kayden Anderson
Kayden Anderson

there's not much to smile about.

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Ryder Jenkins
Ryder Jenkins

Native American killing Dinosaurs and time travelling cant beat giant legacy of James Bond
Thats what i am saying

Cameron Gonzalez
Cameron Gonzalez

who is Turok, why should i care, is what pops up immideatly
James Bond is better written
even thou these are games it still seems to matter

Wyatt Martin
Wyatt Martin

they always mention Golden Eye first
why mention it anyways? perfect dark was superior

Luke Martinez
Luke Martinez

if Turok had a character arc, it would change a lot of things

Ethan Ortiz
Ethan Ortiz

just not with that framerate

Kevin Cox
Kevin Cox

If you're afraid to talk about the details of the games, what sort of conclusions should I draw about you?
I already told you I really don't care about the games I'm just asking for some consistency. For example why didn't you reply to this user ?

Joseph Cooper
Joseph Cooper

/thread

Chase Miller
Chase Miller

nice trips, you can always emulate it with that kb+m version

Brody Smith
Brody Smith

All those three faces are made by completely different technology, and therefore animated differently. Gerald face has real time physics of his beard and hair, realistic facial animation and extremely realistic expressions neither fable nor silent hill 3 had.

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Kevin Kelly
Kevin Kelly

They'd be even better if they were originally released on PC
You can at least emulate them with mouse controls.

Ayden Watson
Ayden Watson

12 years of technology, 20x the computer performance made a character look marginally better
but this is ok because now the long hair blows in the wind, he has mocap facial expressions, and the lighting engine is superior.
user, how old are you?

Isaac Sanders
Isaac Sanders

I could see comparison with Yakuza or VTM Bloodlines as possibility. But certainly not SH3 or Fable bullshit.

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Matthew Fisher
Matthew Fisher

no thanks, I don't want any trojans.

right, so a metashitter, so a jew. begone.

the stylization to yakuza's realistic style really makes it one of the better looking games around. The standard NPCs you pass in the world look decent but the more detailed main characters still have that feeling that they look realistic while also having a sort of greater detail to them that reminds me of certain movie star faces.

Elijah Garcia
Elijah Garcia

Goldeneye is a hard pill to swallow compared to Perfect Dark and Goldeneye.

The first game was fine, albeit unremakrable.

The second was a classic that wasn't aging well technically, but the recent PC remaster corrects that and it holds-up now.

The third and Evolution are underrated gems imho.

The 2008 reboot was a bad Halo knockoff.

Juan Martin
Juan Martin

*Perect Dark and Timesplitters

Fuckkk

Henry Long
Henry Long

Honestly I dont know, I have only played the PC versions but I absolutely loved Turok.
Turok 2 is kinda meh for me though, not as fast or as fun as the first one.

Zachary Allen
Zachary Allen

Here's a mod for the Turok 2 remaster that makes Joshua run more like Tal'Set.

dropbox.com/s/5gm0zh6926bgt57/Speed Mods.rar?dl=0

Jeremiah Bell
Jeremiah Bell

Goldeneye was more unique. It pretty much invented a whole new subgenre, whereas Turok follows the model set by PC FPS pretty closely. It was also the first N64 FPS with multiplayer deathmatches, I believe. That was significant.

Ayden James
Ayden James

turok was complete trash where you couldn't see 5 feet infront of yourself because of the n64 fog while it ran at 10fps.

its ok on pc

Christian Reyes
Christian Reyes

its ok on pc
Most of these games usually are since it removes the limitations.

Jayden Anderson
Jayden Anderson

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Oliver Adams
Oliver Adams

Except the music.

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Gavin Ross
Gavin Ross

Turok is badass, and the only real way to play it is on an actual N64.

Joshua Kelly
Joshua Kelly

the timothy dalton movies were superior to goldeneye

Grayson Young
Grayson Young

The music is different on PC?

Dominic Campbell
Dominic Campbell

The remaster of Turok2 lets you pick which soundtrack you want so see for yourself.

I don't know the Remaster has it's perks

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Liam Perry
Liam Perry

Goldeneye was first made with Timothy Dalton in mind. Which btw makes sense because in tone it's a lot like his other Bond-movies.

Zachary Gonzalez
Zachary Gonzalez

Nintendo fans weren't always soyboys though. Turok and Goldeneye were from back in the 90s when gaming was "EXTREME" and "TOTALLY RADICAL DUDE!"

Good God! Do I miss those days!

Thomas Watson
Thomas Watson

Taken from Wikipedia:

With Brosnan, the Bond writers knew that because of the changes in public attitudes, he could not be as overtly sexual and dominant over women as Connery's Bond, and was denounced by M in Goldeneye to be a "sexist, misogynist dinosaur, a relic of the Cold War".

Ryder Collins
Ryder Collins

Many levels allowed you to complete objectives in whichever order you wish.

You can do the same in Turok.

Being able to see more than 20 feet ahead of you makes goldeneye more visually appealing.

But what you're seeing isn't really all that visually appealing. The characters and backgrounds look like blocky shit. Turok has the same problem, but it takes a "less is more" approach by not being as overly abitious as Goldeneye is. The fog ads to the atmosphere.

The first turok had pretty lame standard FPS weapons.

Don't tell me you prefer the boring realistic weapons of Goldeneye over the Turok's weapons! The fusion cannon is reason alone to play the game! It pre-dates the Fat Man from Fallout!

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Justin Garcia
Justin Garcia

Goldeneye was THE party game. The multiplayer was outstanding. Turok was also too hard for casuals.

Angel Russell
Angel Russell

Turok is a badass time travelling American Indian from the 1800s. He first appeared in comic books back in the 1950s. He's had many reboots and retcons since then. He's fought dinosaurs, aliens, cyborgs (Including cyborg dinosaurs controlled by aliens)

Sounds way more exciting than vanilla James Bond.

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Connor Rogers
Connor Rogers

its a red bfg shut the fuck up

Adrian Myers
Adrian Myers

But unlike the BFG, it blankets the screen with a nuclear explosion.

Jack Long
Jack Long

nonwhite protagonis

Zachary Wright
Zachary Wright

weapons like this are nothing new

Jose Powell
Jose Powell

This.
People can argue all they want, but this is the main (and rightful) reason.
Put two similar (and good) entertainment pieces together, and the one with the White and Straight Man as the protagonist will always be the preferable one.

Austin Nguyen
Austin Nguyen

What if I told you,
That good game ideas,
inherently revolve around such people?

Josiah Perry
Josiah Perry

who let you fags out of your containment board?

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Brandon Myers
Brandon Myers

Because Turok was absolute shit. Next question.

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Joseph Ross
Joseph Ross

Goldeneye was the Halo of the 90's. By that, I mean it was the overrated trash consolefags thought of as masterpieces. They did nothing new or exciting, they didn't push tech forward, they didn't even do what they did particularly well. They had marketing and interesting settings behind them, and did stuff console gamers hadn't seen before, but they were beaten to the punch by PC games every time.
I can't believe people are going on about how amazing Goldeneye was when Blood, Jedi Knight, Quake 2, and Hexen 2 came out the same year. Consolefags disgust me.
Goldeneye was THE party game
Not Mario Kart 64 Battle Mode
Next thing you're going to tell me is that you played Goldeneye with slappers only like a true faggot.
Can't tell if they're from /pol/ or they're Plebbit incels. Either way, you faggots can go.

Leo Bailey
Leo Bailey

/pol/ and Holla Forums have always been the same board newfriend.

Cameron King
Cameron King

This.

Jaxson Jones
Jaxson Jones

At least one of those soyboys got rekt by his cat

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Adam Roberts
Adam Roberts

I love how you assume they're PCfags and not ex-nintendo fans. A lot of people got burned by them user.

Ryder Butler
Ryder Butler

Cats don't attack like this right in the throat unless they sense extreme danger or easy prey, and even with prey they would toy.
The guy probably abuses his cat.

Isaac Russell
Isaac Russell

Is this game worth playing on PC?

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Jackson King
Jackson King

Maybe cats, like dogs can only tolerate so much faggotry albeit with a higher tolerance, and this one dude's soyjoy was enough to push it over the limit

Matthew Gomez
Matthew Gomez

easy prey
I'm pretty sure the cat smelled the soy induced weakness

Isaac Stewart
Isaac Stewart

soundless
/cuckchan/index.html

Austin Ross
Austin Ross

Because James Bond > some shitty kiddy dinosaurs

Gabriel Ramirez
Gabriel Ramirez

Brosnan had more personality than Timothy Dalton

Are you dense? Brozzo was the blandest of them all (and yes, I'm including Craig). And fuck you, Roger is the Adam West of the Bond actors, he's fun as hell to watch.

Also, the main problem with Goldeneye is that it tries way too hard to take itself seriously while taking no risks at all. Wooo! Bond now lives in post-cold war, no biggie he's still doing his thing. Wooo! Bond's boss is a woman, but she's still doing the typical M thing with no addition to her character. Wooo! The villain is his best friend, a character we haven't seen before, have no connection with, whose plan is all over the place and, for someone who knows Bond's every move, he is defeated by a grenade and a run-of-the-mill fight scene.

Evan Thompson
Evan Thompson

just because steam and its community sucks doesnt mean all PC fags suck ok

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Logan Evans
Logan Evans

Wow, a PCfag frogposting cuckchanner. What a unique and interesting character you are.

James Hill
James Hill

Pepe you mongoloid.

Carson Jones
Carson Jones

Goldeneye did lots of new things. You not liking it doesn't mean it doesn't count.

David Sanchez
David Sanchez

It did things shooters had already been well beyond for decades. It did nothing new.
am i fitting in guys?

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Easton White
Easton White

defending cuckchanners
What a sad state we're in.

Nolan Sullivan
Nolan Sullivan

Cuckchan doesn't have a monopoly on pepe you fucking retarded newfag.

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Kayden Sanders
Kayden Sanders

Are you blind? Look at the fucking filename.

Landon King
Landon King

Yeah, apparently I'm blind.

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Easton Bennett
Easton Bennett

We all make mistakes user just beware the cuckchan menace.

Ian Miller
Ian Miller

Goldeneye did new things though. Levels in Goldeneye actually had objectives, which didn't boil down to keyhunting or fucking stupid puzzles ala Hexen I and II.

Owen Hernandez
Owen Hernandez

Facebook frog is still shit and foreign.

Jayden Cook
Jayden Cook

It's "objectives" weren't anything new.
t. jew

Carson Ramirez
Carson Ramirez

dude epic kek #freekekistan xDDD D D D D D D

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Oliver Hernandez
Oliver Hernandez

a bunch of faggots attempt to subvert kek
being so new you don't know they stole this shit from here and bastardized it

Daniel Murphy
Daniel Murphy

I think the reason why GoldenEye is better than Turok was because GoldenEye had a more straightforward approach to everything(with the small-medium sized maps and objectives stated). In Turok on the other hand, you need to explore huge ass jungle maps (not that it's bad) to find keys scattered around. Imagine doing that with the N64 and its controlled camera movements.

Julian Powell
Julian Powell

wtf how did u find my steam profile!!

Easton Hall
Easton Hall

Perfect Dark was revolutionary and way ahead of its time. It pushed the N64 to its limits.

As for why GE was so popular, just take a look at Cinemassacre's recent review of it.

Brosnan
more personality than Timothy Dalton
Nope.

Pierce Brosnan's portrayal of Bond hasn't aged well. He's a generic "jack of all trades" Bond and his movies are suffer from terrible scripts and retarded action sequences where he goes around gunning people like Rambo.

Dalton was ahead of its time, he was the most accurate Bond true to the novels. He read the books before taking the role. Unfortunately the audience in the 80's was too used to Roger Moore's campiness so they weren't ready for a serious Bond yet. But in 2006 with Casino Royale, people finally accepted a serious Bond by Daniel Craig.

GoldenEye would've been perfect for Dalton.

Christopher Sanders
Christopher Sanders

sounds like goldeneye getting its rightful praise makes you really asshurt, just like halo does too. Sorry it makes you upset they're better than whatever hipster shit shooters you probably like, such as shogo or chasm the rift. those games are garbage and are rightfully never brought up except by hipsters.

Michael King
Michael King

[cont]

Official Bond rankings:

1. Sean Connery (not even a debate)
2. Timothy Dalton
3. Daniel Craig
4. Pierce Brosnan
5. Roger Moore
6. George Lazenby (although the 1 movie he's in is god tier)

Also GoldenEye is overrated, the best Bond films are:

The Living Daylights
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
For Your Eyes Only
From Russia With Love
The Spy Who Loved Me
Licence To Kill
Casino Royale
where there's actual espionage involved and not just some generic action movie with gadgets (in which case Goldfinger > GoldenEye).

Aiden Roberts
Aiden Roberts

I'm white and I'd rather play the badass Indian instead of the britcuck.

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Tyler Turner
Tyler Turner

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Ethan Mitchell
Ethan Mitchell

This is why you don't keep cat's.

Alexander Wood
Alexander Wood

This is why you don't keep manchildren.
Fixed that for you.

Aiden Phillips
Aiden Phillips

t. soyboy sperg

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Charles Mitchell
Charles Mitchell

Why the apostrophe?

Isaac Torres
Isaac Torres

animal who never respects you
Doesn't learn commands
Attacks you out of instinct

You niggers are the true manchildren, I've grown up around farm cats, the true cats, not that pussy cat house shit you pretend is the true cat.

I respect cats for being predators which benefits us, but convincing yourself they're good pets is insane.
Dogs are and always have been superior.

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Adam Gomez
Adam Gomez

Eh,you can have a bad dog breed,you can't have a bad cat breed.

Jordan Ross
Jordan Ross

That is because you are a cuck.
White is superior.
There is no need to have characters that aren't either White or asian in entertainment.

Brody Turner
Brody Turner

fallacy
fallacy
fallacy
Animal attacked him because he can't handle it. It clearly hates him and he was sperging out getting the animal all riled up. I've seen dogs get uppity over perceived aggression between males and spastic beahavior. My cats, my whole life farm and indoor have never struck me like this even when I'd handle them roughly.

Clearly you are a bad caretaker for the animal.

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Isaac Cooper
Isaac Cooper

A dog is an animal that through selection is bred to serve.
Small dogs sure are little runts, but most dogs can be bent to your will through training.
/pol/ poster
Says this when he posts on a board regulated by a turkroach
<Y-your a jew will be his only retort.

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Carter Jackson
Carter Jackson

Then you're are lying out your ass.
Farm cat's never/rarely recognize you.

They're literally cat's in the wild that benefit from the draw rats, and other prey that are attracted to harvest.
Cat's are crazy fucking pyscho's that are not worth viewing as pets, especially since they have a parasite which changes neurological function.

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Jack Clark
Jack Clark

That doesn't really go against what i said that certain breeds of dogs are just bad from the get go,where with cats even if they're bad they're nowhere near as bad as dogs can start as.

Charles Nguyen
Charles Nguyen

That's because cat breeds are bred, based on climate and look.
Dog's are bred by utility are were.
Even small dogs had utility 200 years ago when small dog poodle mixes where used as rat hunters which could deal with high humidity climates which cats could not.

That's where the poodle comes from is french, spanish fleets requiring a dog with fur which did not shed and could deal with water.
You have dogs who can lead the blind
Dogs who can sniff out bombs
Dogs who can sniff out narcotics
Dogs who guard
Dogs who can offer companionship
Cats, do only two things
Kill pests,
Make you feel like you're not alone.

DOGS>CATS

Lincoln Price
Lincoln Price

Who still uses r/the_/pol/nald? Say something bad about Trump, BANNED.
If a farm cat doesn't recognize you then you never had a close relationship with it to begin with. That's usually the intention unless the owners interact with the animal often.
doesn't learn commands
purina.com.au/cats/training/train
hillspet.com/cat-care/training/kitten-command-training
You can train your cat to shit in the toilet if you want. Not even a dog can do that.
attacks you out of instinct
Again, has literally never happened to me. My cat who lives on my grandparents vineyard as an outdoor mouser is always overcome with joy to see us, he gets so lonely out there and craves human contact.
A dog is far more likely to attack it's owner, despite cats being the more popular pet. In fact it's the most common animal bite in America.
caninejournal.com/dog-bite-statistics/
legalmatch.com/law-library/article/animal-bite-accident-statistics.html
Often they may bite when scared or under stress, and cats are no different like we see here. Stay mad soyboy.
Dogs who can sniff out bombs
Not a pet.
Dogs who can sniff out narcotics
Not a pet. Lets not even forget the issues with rehabilitating a service dog.
Dogs who can offer companionship
implying cats can't do this
admits this in the same post that they are useful as companions
Just accept that you have a preference you idiot.
Dogs who guard
Granted a dog is much more suited to this purpose, it's not unheard of to hear stories of cats defending their owners from bears and dogs, as well as defending babies and other animals.
youtube.com/watch?v=ftIRIPcsqxo
youtube.com/watch?v=gXhJj9AGLvc
youtube.com/watch?v=pAjtkuDlsv8
youtube.com/watch?v=AgejhM6XGRA
youtube.com/watch?v=rqBnLKxaxSo
youtube.com/watch?v=yfZddEiuv5U
youtube.com/watch?v=UNEC-SdjN3Q

A cat is clearly smarter than a dog, but much more independent. There are pros and cons to each animal, and I've enjoyed taking care of both throughout my life. Polite sage for off topic forcing of my hand in relation to cat vs dog autism.

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Carter Gray
Carter Gray

This shit fucking makes me happy,to see cats defending people or scaring away other animals,more if you got them please.

Leo Reed
Leo Reed

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youtube.com/watch?v=YhDZzVCGAaY
To tired to make more Webms.

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Jayden Rogers
Jayden Rogers

multiplayer dumbass

Bentley Brooks
Bentley Brooks

Who the fuck cares, if you wanted to play multiplayer with friends you were playing multiplayer with friends either way.

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

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Hudson Diaz
Hudson Diaz

I never got why most women liked cats and men liked dogs, since women look for dog qualities in men and men essentially end up keeping a 125lb cat when they get married

Cats are dainty things that dont really do much at all except groom themselves and whine at you to give them resources like food

Dogs are bumbling retards full of devotion that do everything in their power to gain affection,doing everything from farm labor to risking their life finding bombs to rescuing morons skiing, or just outright running under tanks with bombed strapped to them

Gavin James
Gavin James

I've met many cats cause I grew up in hipsterville, they were all asshole cats.
I have also met many dogs that were trained to the extent of "sit" and "no" and were all wonderful.
The only bad dogs I've come across are ones that grew up in the ghetto and had an owner that took its frustration out at it.
yet every chocolate lab that I've met has been a hyperactive piece of shit that would never stop barking.

Kayden Jackson
Kayden Jackson

I haven't played Turok on n64.
I have played Goldeneye and Perfect Dark on n64.
That's why.

Brandon Wilson
Brandon Wilson

Cats are dainty things that dont really do much at all except groom themselves and whine at you to give them resources like food
Cat's are strong enough to overpower a full grown woman in a feat of strength if it's terrified enough to grip something for dear life, and that's just something that's common for Vets to deal with if it's trying to kill you the same you see in comedies then good fucking luck your face is coming right off. The reason woman collect cats is to fill an empty void in their heart, you can generally tell based on how many cats they have and if they don't replace their cats.

yet every chocolate lab that I've met has been a hyperactive piece of shit that would never stop barking.
That's because the puppy mills only sell the hyperactive ones and the owners that buy them are shit or otherwise too inadequate and too lax with them, they need a lot of work. You go outside and you fucking play for hours with physical activities or make him work until he's exhausted. The subtle body language of Humans living with it is much more of an influence on labs then most dogs. Chocolate labs are also one of the smarter breeds, since they'll regularly pickup on keywords you use when they get older and understand what you're saying vaguely but won't care if you don't speak those keywords they pay attention too.

Xavier Sanders
Xavier Sanders

Actual answer: because parents knew Goldeneye from the movie and bought it like a normalfag tie-in.

Logan Hall
Logan Hall

I think it's just because GoldenEye had multiplayer before Turok had multiplayer, so it became the de-facto multiplayer shooter.
The fact that it was based on a hit movie helped, as did the "training wheels" that lowered the skill ceiling compared to Turok.
GE had more generous auto-aim and no jumping or falling to deal with, as well as primitive ADS.
Turok had better weapons though.

Brandon Rivera
Brandon Rivera

so it became the de-facto multiplayer shooter
If you were a toddler who gots his N64 for Christmas. Actual FPS players were balls deep in Quake 2.

Blake Wilson
Blake Wilson

And here we have the colossal hipster cunt who failed basic reading comprehension to give his uninformed two cents only tangentially related to the OP.
Can't have a conversation about why one console game got chosen over another console game on that same console without some dickface chiming in about a different game altogether (which was more synonymous with a completely different platform).
Maybe read the fucking subject of the thread next time.

Jonathan Adams
Jonathan Adams

Holy shit, what are you even still discussing?

Christopher Reyes
Christopher Reyes

I've always been curious: Are there FPSs before Goldeneye that actually had context-sensitive hit areas? Or even headshots that do different damage from body shots?

Eli Gonzalez
Eli Gonzalez

Pretty sure arcade light-gun games had contextual damage and animations. Virtua Cop and Time Crisis and the like. House of the Dead definitely did but that came out after.

Brody Adams
Brody Adams

Nice

I first played Goldeneye with the mouse hack and I can't imagine playing it on original hardware now.

r/the_/pol/nald uses r/the_/pol/nald. The "real" /pol/ migrated to some slow alternative boards here and on other sites and they hate namedropping

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Ayden Allen
Ayden Allen

Aren't American Indians decended from Asians?

Ian Martinez
Ian Martinez

Dogs are definitely more loyal.

Alexander Butler
Alexander Butler

Forgot to post this.

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Gavin Allen
Gavin Allen

The N64 was THE console for FPS back in the day when getting a computer was expensive and it was sometimes difficult to get games working on it.

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Carter Cooper
Carter Cooper

possible
wtf, i love guessing

Xavier Turner
Xavier Turner

hipsterville
asshole cats
See, the numale fears the kitty. (or should anyway) Cats owned by good flyover/conservative folk and vets are great friendly pets usually. You also might get the more distant farm cat and occasional ornery little shit that hates being touched too, rural cats are often more hands off. I thing that urbanites are bad with animals.
Most of those boards are shit though and not just because of inactivity.
I don't ever recall having difficulty getting games running, that's more of a modern phenomenon with me.

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Ian Johnson
Ian Johnson

reason woman collect cats is to fill an empty void in their heart

but why a cat? Cats cant be bothered to even look at you if you walk into the room, while dogs fall over themselves for affection

Liam Davis
Liam Davis

Because cats are dominant and women want to be dominated. Dogs remind them of betas.

William Jackson
William Jackson

chad feline, virgin canine

Brayden Sanchez
Brayden Sanchez

Cats can be pretty subservant too

Hunter Hill
Hunter Hill

Not that i've ever seen.

Nolan Jackson
Nolan Jackson

I had a PC and an N64, played most of those games, and Goldeneye is still really good despite its flaws.

Compared to that list, here's stuff Goldeneye did well-
Could play it split screen at sleepovers. Local multiplayer without a LAN party was stupid easy and less an ordeal to get together.
Objectives were somewhat novel for FPS games still. How many on your list were still keycards and mazes?
Location specific damage was still novel. How many on your list had that?
Grounded, cool real world spy theme. Reread that list, how many fit that description?
Sort-of stealth system meant bad guys weren't automatically aggroed and you had to prevent alarms. How many on your list had random bad guys spawn simply to be obstacles?
Extremely varied level design.

Rare's followup FPS kicked ass and it's easy for memory to blur some of Perfect Dark's improvements with its more primitive predecessor. But Goldeneye was still good.

Lincoln Clark
Lincoln Clark

Turok had shitty draw distrance and a bad frame rate. It was a good game but I preferred Goldeneye better.

Ryan Thomas
Ryan Thomas

I first played Goldeneye with the mouse hack and I can't imagine playing it on original hardware now.
Well if you never played with an N64 controller then no amount of keyboard + mouse controls is going to help you "get it". I mean shit I played the N64 so much that the N64 controller is second nature in these hands and without the mouse hack trying to control 3 fifths of the N64 selection is a god damned nightmare for me.

Grayson Lee
Grayson Lee

Well if you never played with an N64 controller then no amount of keyboard + mouse controls is going to help you "get it". I mean shit I played the N64 so much that the N64 controller is second nature in these hands and without the mouse hack trying to control 3 fifths of the N64 selection is a god damned nightmare for me.
Don't bother explaining to pc fags they're all emuniggers who don't understand how the games actually play.

Gabriel Sanchez
Gabriel Sanchez

Goldeneye was the death of the Bond film franchise. It turned him into a cuck.
You clearly didn't actually watch it

Noah Harris
Noah Harris

Didn't Turok cost like $70 on release compared to GoldenEye's more reasonable $40?

Angel Rodriguez
Angel Rodriguez

Dalton era was better still.

Brandon Edwards
Brandon Edwards

Dalton era was better still.

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Hudson Bennett
Hudson Bennett

But it was. At least in my country. Not everything is about the US.

Isaiah Lopez
Isaiah Lopez

no shooters better than Goldeneye on PC
Quake
Duke 3D
Doom
Shadow Warrior
Powerslave

Nigger what?

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Xavier Reyes
Xavier Reyes

samefagging via torposting
It's hard to use DOS if you're a drooling retard who can't remember basic file structure and a few commands. Though "Expanded" and "Extended" memory still fucks with my head to this day. Glad those days are long past.

The only games today that are "Hard to get running" are games that heavily relied on old DirectX and 3dfx Glide.