Jacobin's intro to socialism video series with Verso

Jacobin's intro to socialism video series with Verso.

youtube.com/watch?v=mzhVLRbbvVA

This is the first of their videos.

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is it any good?

Hmm, I'll look into this, thx user.

Aight, im 30 mins in. Its ok.

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was Dagoth Ur Hitler?

Jacobin is doing a lot to make socialism accessible. What they should do is release a series of 8-10 minute short videos on each question in the ABC's of socialism and add snazzy animation with them.

People now a days have short attention spans, like 1 in 10 people even reads books let alone ones on political theory. The only way to make socialism popular is with short easily digestible vids with lost of animations and bright colours.

+1 for this
Please do this, Jacobin smurfs

You need to market socialism is something "they" dont want you to know about.
And produce quick fire short and basic meme's about socialism, and videos, maybe comedic, maybe animated.
You also need to go into the belly of the beast, the deep south, and midwest, middle america in general, avoid looking like rich champagne limo limousine socialist

More like a Miltonian Satan, his evil was real but over exaggerated for mythological effect.

Yeah kind of like Prager U but actually helpful.

We need Jacobin U tbh
I'd love to work at a Marxist think tank, but there's pretty much no way for those to exist

coincidently, jacobin argued for leftist think tanks recently in one of their articles.

Vivek Chibber is god tier, he had a book a couple years ago that totally BTFO'ed postcolonial studies and anything with the word "subaltern" in it.

lol that idpol rant was near perfect.

what time?

around 15:00 minute mark

This, for sure, Those kind of videos could be pretty effective propaganda.

Like this?

Just finised hearing the speech and it's going into the questions. So far it's a lot better than I expected and as someone else said, the part about the Left's obssession with addressing marginalized groups to find a moral highground at the expense of organized power is on point.

However - and maybe this is because I spend way too much time arguing online and trying to anticipate comebacks - there are many parts of it that you can see what people on the fence would get wrong, and what people in favor of capitalism (and identitarianism) would say as retort.

The main problem with most of these efforts is that if you're making an introductory series to Socialism for the general audience, you can't assume you're talking to a blank page, to people who have never internalized any liberal ideology whatsoever. Some of the things he said are open to pretty obvious objections, most of which don't even require a particularly politically-minded or conservative person to make: What is fair? What is justice? If capitalism is domination why are most free societies also developed capitalist democracies? Isn't access to these basic goods more easier when there is muh competition? If people feel exploited why won't they just start their own businesses? etc

Yes, these are all dumb questions, but it's the type of dumb question that people out there tend to ask when confronted with criticisms of the only system they ever got to know. You can even sense some second-rate Youtubers "breaking down" every point made and responding to them with utterly banal arguments like that and getting more views than the video itself.

Way, way more important than making a basic exposure of left-wing ideas and left-wing critiques and thinking that a 30-minute video or 20-page leaflet will really make people go "oh, I guess everything I ever knew is wrong" is to actually help inform and prepare those out there who can deliver the message to counter these arguments and back up their own with something concrete. So for example, instead of twenty minutes containing a very common point regarding capitalism and identity politics, I'd love if they had gotten someone to spend twenty minutes discussing some historical data that back up the thesis that marginalized groups do better when the mechanisms for worker's organization are strong, that a disorganized working class is more prone to prejudice because they can't make a concerted effort to keep pressure off the labour market, that prejudice among the poor is often the result of actually reactionary organizations such as the Church voicing the discontentment of the masses in lieu of a working class organization to do so, etc. Stuff like that we can use, and for those of us who don't have the time to read tons of historical books but want to advance the cause, it would be a gem.

You don't need a platform as big as Jacobin and a personality as big as Chibber to bring up those basic points. Leave this to the rest of us. We can waste several precious hours debating those basic points, clarifying them to confused people and going back-and-forth with whoever defies them but we need the proper guidance, because I know damn well that nobody who writes for Jacobin will ever lower themselves to talk to the sort of right-wing "Stalin killed millions and had a monkey army" shitheads that we do. When you have so many intellectuals and desperate grad students wanting to write for you, you should focus more on refining and developing the worldview of people who already agree with you. Leave the "well, capitalism is exploitation" to our own dumb Youtubers, but get enough smart people to help this guy himself go past this level.

The way Socialism is organized now is incredibly stratified: you have us simps who know the system is wrong but often can't articulate it well or express it through numbers and historical examples, and then you have intellectuals, with very little in-between. If the latter could help the former instead of trying to preach to the masses on their own (which also always sucks, because nothing makes socialism more boring than college professors) it would be fantastic. This is what's missing imo.

The mini-lecture and the video are like, nice, but I think most people watching it will be people who already know all of this, and who are imagining a bunch of normies watching it as well and changing their views because of it. It's not going to happen.

Sorry for the TL;DR

I feel like the videos are for the newly initiated, to educate them, instead of these videos being tools for conversion.

Dagoth Ur was the good guy. He wanted to share divinity with everyone.

t. Zizek

Thats ok, but a bit too prager u really.

this, do it like prageU or those lolberg/ancap animations

Only with Dunmer.

Non-Dunmer are to be turned into zombies.

the strongman military dictator traitor was the good guy
where have i heard this before?

bump

That article was from a while ago. They've declined in quality since. They need to start coming up with new organizational strategies and theories like this quality article and pander less to liberal idpol to keep on the new users.
jacobinmag.com/2016/05/bernie-sanders-think-tank-heritage-brookings-policy/

i think this one had some good shit for strategy
jacobinmag.com/2016/11/bernie-sanders-democratic-labor-party-ackerman/