My philosophy of science professor says that Marxism should not be considered a science because Marx's claims about the...

My philosophy of science professor says that Marxism should not be considered a science because Marx's claims about the historical destiny of the proletariat are essentially eschatological and unfalsifiable. Does this argument hold water or is it only positivist sophistry?

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He's kind of right tbh

If you believe in positivism in social sciences then thats right, smart people dont care about that though.

Its not a hard science, neither are other "sciences" such as social science or economics.

Yes.
But don't worry, if it doesn't fit your tastes just post some fedora maymays and discard it as being "scientificism" or whatever you fags like to call it.

Could you be more specific about what he said? Maybe he just meant this: The claim that X will happen at some point without giving a date it will happen or even some range has nothing going for it. You can put it in all sorts of crazy shit for the X and there is no way for me or you or anyone to ever disprove that. If you put in something about the revolutionary potential of the working class for X, you have to actually convince me and it's not enough to say that, since you had not specified a date that we have already passed, your position isn't disproved. This is not some innocent-until-proven-guilty-so-you-win thing. Convince me why out of billions of future scenarios - which aren't disproved, since strictly speaking, one can't disprove them in the here and now - I should give any particular credibility to this specific one you fancy.

Why do autistic reactionaries obsess over that one line so much? If you actually read Marx half of it is basically prose.

Why shouldn't we use positivist standards in social science?

It's not, it's philosophy. The most "scientific" thing about it is diamat which is literally just a theory of sociology.

Because you don't study the static laws of nature, but the average behaviour and structure of a machine that by its nature differs slightly from every other machine of its species.

falsifiability was invented in the 20th century long after Marx. If you want to study Marxism from a purely analytical framework, try Analytical Marxism.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytical_Marxism

Marxism is not a science, the claim that marxism is a science is a mistranslation from german.
In german Marx uses the term wisenschaft meaning organized system of knowledge, the english cognated will be something like wiseshell

100% ideology. it's true that marxism is unfalsifiable though.

You /leftycucks/ have no idea what is happening.
You worship a few shitty idealogues instead of looking at the state of the world today.

The elite are all about transcendence and living forever and the secrets of the universe and they know all this.Some are good, some are bad, some are a mix.But the good ones don't ever wanna organise.The bad ones DO wanna organise because they lust after power. Powerful consciousneses don't wanna dominate other people.They want to to EMPOWER them so they don't tend to get together untill things are really late in the game,then they come together and evil is always defeated because good is so much stronger.

We're on this planet and Einstein's physics showed it,Max Plank's physics showed it:there's at least TWELVE dimensions.And now It's why all the top scientists and billionaires are coming out saying It's a false hologram, IT IS artificial.The computers are scanning it and finding tension points where It's all artifically projected and gravity is BLEEEDING in to this universe.That's what they call dark matter.So we're like a tought or a dream that's a wisp in some computer program,some God's mind,whatever.They're proving it all.It's all coming out.

Now,there's like this SUB-TRANSMISSION ZONE below the third dimension that just turned over to the most horrible things.It's what is resonates to.And It's trying to get up into the third dimension that's just a basic level consciousness to launch into the next levels.And our species is already way up into the fifth,sixth dimension consciousnally:our best people.But there's this big war trying to like,basically destroy humanity because humanity has free will and there's a decision to which level we wanna go to.WE have free will so evil is allowed to come in and contend,not just good.
And the elites themselves…BELIEVE they are racing using human technology to try to take our best minds and build some type of breakaway civilization where they're gonna merge with machines,transcend and break away from the failed species that is man.Which is kind of like a false transmission because they're thinking what they are is ugly and bad,projecting it onto themselves instead of believing: NO,It's a human test about building us UP.

And so Google was set up eighteen/nienteen years ago.I knew this before it was declassified.I'm saying I HAVE sources.They wanted to build a giant artificial SYSTEM and Google believes that the first Artifcial Intelligence will be a SUPER-comuptor based on the neuron activities of the hive mind of humanity,with millions of people wired into it with the internet of things.And so all of our toughts go INTO IT and we're actually building a computer that has real neurons in real time, that's also psychically connected to us that are organic creatures so that they will have CURRENT prediction powers,FUTURE prediction powers(a true crystal ball),but the big secret is:once you have a true crystal ball and know the future you can add stimuli beforehand and make decisions that CONTROL the future.

So then It's the end of consciousness and free will for individuals as we know ,and a true 2.0 (in a very bad way) hive mind consciousness with an AI jacked into everyone knowing our hopes and dreams,delivering it to us;not in some wirehead system where we plug in and give up all our consciousness because of unlimited pleasure but because we were already wired to absorb it before we knew by giving in our consciousness to this

In 1884, meridian time personnel met

in Washington to change Earth time.

First words said was that only 1 day

could be used on Earth to not change

the 1 day bible. So they applied the 1

day and ignored the other 3 days.

The bible time was wrong then and it

proved wrong today. This a major lie

has so much evil feed from it's wrong.

No man on Earth has no belly-button,

it proves every believer on Earth a liar.

Children will be blessed for

Killing Of Educated Adults

Who Ignore 4 Simultaneous

Days Same Earth Rotation.

Practicing Evil ONEness -

Upon Earth Of Quadrants.

Evil Adult Crime VS Youth.

Supports Lie Of Integration.

1 Educated Are Most Dumb.

Not 1 Human Except Dead 1.

Man Is Paired, 2 Half 4 Self.

1 of God Is Only 1/4 Of God.

Bible A Lie & Word Is Lies.

Navel Connects 4 Corner 4s.

God Is Born Of A Mother –

She Left Belly B. Signature.

Every Priest Has Ma Sign

But Lies To Honor Queers.

Belly B. Proves 4 Corners.

Witcraft? Knowhood?

Don't. This is what happens when you dabble in that horseshit: anti-dialectics.co.uk.

Thanks. This one is great:
anti-dialectics.co.uk/Boiling Mad.htm

Alex Jones take your meds

tl;dr

There are basically two types of sciences, deductive and abductive/empricism. The natural sciences are rightly empirical while the deductive sciences are things like mathematics and economics. Claims about historical destiny are traditionally more philosphy but if that is the conclusion drawn from the premises deductively then that is science.

He misunderstands the use of the term science.
When we talk about scientific socialism, its in the context of the 19th century where the term was used much more broadly (i.e social science, political science, etc)
The point is that in contrast to utopian socialism, there is an actual theory relating to material conditions and historical context as opposed to "wouldn't it be fucking mint if there were no bosses".
These days science refers specifically to objectively verifiable sciences like physics, chemistry, biology, etc.
Personally I don't know why psychology is allowed to be included in this list when its closer to the older terminology than any modern hard science.

It's important to acknowledge that the word "science" had different connotations back in Marx's day. Falsifiability and the scientific method weren't around. Peer review was informal.

A better word would be natural philosophy

Also this

Does he preach moral relativism at the same time out of the other side of his mouth? The whole sociology department is not science in this case

Yikes