NazBols shitting up the board

epic surprise box, made me laugh out loud

Its the [current year] better get used to it

Or do you mean spouting of liberal intersectional / BLM rot whilst masquerading as a radical?

A bad book is worse than no book.

Until Trump takes a nazi like action distinct from that of previous presidents, I don't see the need to act like low information flabbergasted immediately offended liberals with every bad thing he does. We should be alert to his bad actions the same way we were with previous presidents, but I think half the problem with people is thinking he is some uniquely special candidate in a lot of ways that he isn't in fact.

I think leftypol should take some race and fem issues more seriously, especially those that pertain to violence and class specific issues within those groups but I also like that the board isn't idpol in the way other sites is where you get banned for everyday common words in the English language and for thinking anything sexual in the slightest.

take your shitty memes back to /r9k/ retard

chill the heck out with that ableism

OP is a rootless cosmopolitan and a pawn of the neoliberal ruling class. I suggest practice of self-criticism against these infantile ultra-left delusions, otherwise rehabilitation through labor.
Thank you and have a great day. Slava Stalin.

Larp harder tard

Not for the last week or so.
I'm pretty sure it's one guy, it's fun to laugh at how wrong he/they are, some of them we might be able to talk around to our side, and since we can't hotpocket them IRL it's better to learn to deal with their rhetoric and patterns here and now than IRL.
Special priveleges being handed out as pork is comsidered liberation.
Tacking 'socialist' on something doesn't make it socialist, or not full of shit. Feminism was and in some parts of the world still is necessary to make women equal to men in the eyes of the law and employers. In many places where those goals have been mostly achieved though, it has become cancerous and making women able to nuke mens' careers and social lives (and not coincidentally, to try to silence political opponents; see: Asange) by accusing them of looking at women funny, with the accuser being held to a standard of evidence lower than that of the fucking Spanish Inquisition.
Those are called shills. They get btfo regularly.

Today OP was not a faggot

Just like socialism is about worker equality

That's was Holla Forums accuses everyone of… Suspicious

Unfortunately the cancer that is the alt-right and far-right more generally on Holla Forums seeps into this board.

There is a cure: we need more people to not be faggots and google Bookchin

What was your purpose here other than to identify yourself as some gotcha spouting redditor?

What is your purpose here aside from being an asshurt reactionary dipstick?

We became bigger and we scared Holla Forumstards so they shitpost more

You can swear here you silly faggot, I won't give you le downboat.
Now, if you could explain your position that would be great.

this isn't far from Holla Forums-tier MRA shit tbh.

oh no Julian Assange the guy with 4 diff kids across the globe was accused of taking a condom off during sex, that accusation could never possibly be true.

Some """lefties""" here are more butthurt over liberals that they will happily ally with Holla Forumstards apparently, they arent real leftist if you consider right wing scum worse than liberals.

Yeah liberals are idiots and even dangerous but are more open to our beliefs than right wing retards

Back to Holla Forums

Idpol is unfairly demonized! Look at all the other people doing it!

We only support Trump for the accelerationism.

This depends a lot on the country you're in. In America I would say this is correct, in Europe and other places where people know the actual definitions of ideological stances horseshoe theory is more correct to the extent that extremes attract other extremes and liberals are smug cunts who emphasize their middle-groundedness to no end. Imagine a nation of Sargon's and people who argue for the progressive value of Beyonce's sweatshops.

It's funny that earlier today in another thread I got accused of being a liberal for criticizing Trump and now this. He has done plenty of bad what I'm saying is the bad things he has done are not yet that distinct from that of previous presidents. That might not be the case in a year, it might not be the case next month. I'm willing to hear arguments that it already is that way, but most of the arguments I hear for "TRUMP IS HITLER 2.0" Are from liberals who never paid attention to politics suddenly finding out things are shit with no end in sight.

So does zizek, sadly we got some Holla Forumstard refugees here who keep sucking the Trump cock and telling us how great he is and how he is a good person which makes me want to shoot the brain dead retards

Did you read the rest of my post?

Not an argument.

It should be pretty easy to explain how I'm incorrect then.
How fortunate for all the people who wanted to silence him permanently that he should fuck up that way for the first and last time after making trouble for them. Heh, remember when the media/Alphabet Soup falsely accused him of being part of a CP ring (that email thing) when he was shitting down Shrillery's throat during the election? Boy it sure is funny how he attracts so many false accusations, but that one specific one that you reference, alone in its non-btfo status is definitely absolutely 100% true. :^)

back to twitter with you nigger

well, they do. duh.

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do it

yah i h8 niggers and abbos m8

only when discussed outside the context of socialist revolution

"socialist feminism" is redundant and tacking "socialist" before feminism only outs yourself as a liberal trying to garner our attention

Liberals are generally shiftless bourgy aristocrats entertaining themselves with ever more petty hangnails.
The proletariat is on the chans, posting about ponies in moldy basements after they come home from their part-time Carls Jr shift.
The real left will find far more genuine allies here.

Ok now it is confirmed to be Holla Forums, only you people are this delusional

This just confirms how out of touch you are.

you live in a bubble. Go talk to actual working class people instead of your useless teachers at uni

you are able to tell what people are like who you have never met. join the Psi Corps.

t. guy calling everyone Holla Forums and guessing their situations

FMSPF

Rightists will never takeover this board.

We just have a lot of shitposters and trolls.

No you are delusional.

Confirmed for never having gone outside. Protip, real life isn't twitter.

Basement dwellers also need liberation m8

Not him, famalam.

Well in that case it doesn't matter and the fact you only minded it when someone else did it is unimportant.

You wot m8?

Cool beans. Keep complaining about manspreading and Holocausts and advising people with real problems to eat cake. You will hang.

lol Holla Forums you aint even trying

U fukkin erd lah

Hang on muh dick, muhfugga

go away Holla Forums

It's not hard to see why people would choose blood and soil over this condescending bait-and-switch horseshit. Yes, you are so oppressed with your trustfund because you get called a slut for wearing crotchless yoga pants. Liberals are terrified of actual class consciousness.

No, that's liberal appeasement and serves a fundamentally racist system. SJW speech policing and muh privilege politics is the same white liberal paternalism that's always come with white supremacy.

Good thing it's not just tacked on then and is entirely different. Liberal feminism wants to allow equal opportunity exploitation of women and create identitarian rivalry to fuel consumerism and allow for the illusion of social progress. Socialist feminism is inseperable from wider class struggle as it (ideally, SJWs have fucked this up a lot) addresses proletarian women as proles first and attacks the traditions that would divide the proletariat along gender lines. Traditions that give symbolic superiority to prole men in the form of some violent arbitrary power over women so they can work out the feelings of frustration and powerlessness that comes from having your labor stolen every day. Racism functions in similar ways.

I herd I jus don unnastan

I wrote micro4ggression not holocaust. It was a wordfilter.

The guy you replied to wasn't the first to play guessing games over who people were, with the other poster complaining about muh basementfolk before he was accused of being a college wanker.

Really, what could he do that Bush and Obama were not already doing?

A brilliant one at that.

There is literally nothing wrong with identity politics.
Making everything about class at the expense of everything else treats people like interchangeable cogs in a machine; it is a capitulation to capitalist logic. Identity is an integral part of how people experience the world and deal with each other. Ignoring that means that there is little difference between you and the color-blind libertarian who believes in meritocracy. I am a slav. The experience of being slavic is unique and trying to explain it in purely generalized economic terms does not give you the whole picture.

Whatever. People are wising up to your shit. I ain't even mad.

>>>Holla Forums
is that way, you dont belong here

They're like staying in an abusive relationship. Do you want to live in a postracial society? Then abandon your "identity" and start living in one. Do you not? Then go full ethnonationalist.

Shit or get off the pot.

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why all you guys are so cringy. jesus…

This guy gets it

Sounds pretty passive-aggressive.

if lefties want a working class with class consciousness, then it has to actually put people to work and help them get a long. Not put them all on welfare and continuously sow identity politics divisions.

big bourgeoisie pied pipered two whole generations of leftists and have you faggots arguing over the dumbest shit imaginable while big bourgeoisie literally stole all the money. all you faggots arguing over fucking halloween costumes and Holocausts would have been fucking Gulag'd right away under Stalin. And hopefully Trump will have the will to do this to you sad shits in America too.

After a few years of actually building useful things with your hands alongside your fellow comrade instead of trying to transvaluate all sorts of perversions and engaging in obnoxious counterproductive 'activism', then you'll see why your whole life prior to that moment of clarity was absolute fun.

All your bad ideas cannot be argued out of you, they have to be beaten out of you, by force. And in the end you'll thank us for the favor.

Well he's correct, except the orcs are not the real problem. It's not their fault that their leaders entered into a demonic blood pact that turned them into violent barbarians.
The real problem is the goddamn elves. Behind every single problem that plagues the kingdom, you'll find one of those pointy-eared treenigger faggots trying to stir up trouble.

Well in terms of resembling other fascists that have existed historically he could start rounding people of other races into work camps. Or outright killing them regardless of their US citizenship. Although Obama already has him beat there With Anwar al-Awlaki and his son. Even with that if Trump Started doing it in mass on US soil I think it would be hard for even MAGA hat wearers to deny that.

He could start more openly jailing political dissidents and increase the domestic spying/control measures even further.

He could start actively killing other branches of government off either violently or through decrees.

He could start abolishing basic freedoms even further than they were already eroded. Like an outright and vocal end to the Bill of Rights or something as dramatic.

There are a lot of ways he can indicate a more pronounced move towards fascism that he hasn't yet done. Only time will tell.

This is dwarven propaganda.

your meme is a piece of shit. mine is better.

xD go be a manchild somewhere else. 4chan is more your retarded speed.

You're a fucking retard that needs to post less and lurk more

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See, this is why you're so fucked. You just dismiss everything as spooks and ignore that yes even though they are spooks they have real effects.

If a tribe believes sacrificing human outsiders to make sky god happy, that's a spook, but they're still going to sacrifice you when you step in their town. And you can spit as much theory at them as you want and you'll still end up dead.

So if you think spooked people can't be orcs, then go move to ISIS town and see how long that works. Be sure and explain to them how everyone is human and every deserves special rights no matter what.

Funny thing is, ISIS is more Marxist than the idiots here who do nothing more than repeat big bourgeoisie ideology.

There aint no human rights, son. Those are just more spooks. Your rights are whatever the big bourgeoisie say they are, and you enjoy those rights only because it profits the big bourgeoisie at that specific moment in history. As soon as the needs of the big bourgeoisie change, so too do your rights. And your ideologized dumb ass will keep right on agreeing with them no matter how they change.

Oh yah, my big bourgeoisie newspaper tells me we have to think this way now so we better do it.

I'm feeling very othered by this language.

hey look another resentful leftist with a terse nonargument. this is why you never progress, because you never dialectic. you just negate and negate and negate and never go anywhere.

it must be terrible for you.

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Maybe if you weren't such a spooked cuck you'd know that we don't need your idiot advice or bottom of the shithouse tier analysis instead of posting from your deluded fantasy world

What's with all the fedora tippers here? Are you even self aware?

fuck off you autistic cunt.

yeah you don't need no advice. that's why you've lost everything. and why you do nothing now but rage impotently.

go do some more riots and town hall activism. it is working wonders for you isn't it.

go do some riots loser

I think these Bay Area hipster LARPers are going to be very sad when socialism happens. They treat it like a fashion accessory and forget that these ideas grant actual power, and it's not for them, it's for the "pathetic" people they ignore or laugh at.

No he couldn't you fucking mong, he wasn't even allowed to do legal things by the 9th Circuit, how is he going to become a genocidal Fascist?

What a surprise.

Not really, Holla Forums is just full of chest thumping chimps who have a meme tier understanding of things. A good chunk of them are civil and you can have jokes with them but there are always eternally butthurt internet tough guys in every thread there shitting their autism everywhere, and the same is true when they come over. The better posters from there don't constantly set off the wordfilters because they actually lurk and are invested in not looking like a moron, and the ones that set them off and then cry about them are always the previously mentioned retards.

why, because we're not giant autists like Holla Forums?

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Holla Forums doesn't believe in the jew 'spook'

They're like niggers who blame whitey for everything the jews have done to them

I agree socialist feminism is redundant but just because someone calls themself a socialist feminist does not mean they are a liberal. It's liberal to think that any meaningful degree of equality can happen without socialist revolution.

I guess that makes Lenin, Sankara, Ocalan, the Black Panthers, Mao, Allende, and basically every other important marxist of the 20th and 21st century idpol.

It doesn't. Read a book.

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Well yeah, even many Jews themselves acknowledge this. Marx himself tried to figure out how to solve the jewish question

Listen friend and calm yourself.

I didn't say he would do those things, I didn't say he can do those things. I listed things he could possibly do hypothetically to make himself look more definitely like a historic fascist, could you read things said in the context of what is being replied to and what i said before that?

Sorry you had to hear that, Reddit. We use mean words here on eight chan dot com.

do you?

Don't take things so seriously man, Holla Forums is quite possibly the most infiltrated board on the internet. Call out any shills and idiots.

Oh shit I just got the joke.

m8.

He couldn't hypothetically do any of those things, bar the US citizen assinations Obama already provided precedent for.

If he was to do anything it would have been ignoring a court order which he literally COULD have done.

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quick reply pls

no such thing. Leftists don't need feminists, neoliberals need the left to think they do.

just look at the FBI under J Edgar Hoover and Japanese Internment if you think that shits not possible.

M8 this obvious concept of things he could do in some extreme way that I don't think he will do in all likelihood but that are possible within the realm of existence as laid out to explain to liberals why their fears are currently unfounded. I agree his actions with the court indicate he probably wont transgress some of the boundaries I listed, that doesn't mean they aren't there to be transgressed or that they cant be used as stress test to indicate what I think a possible move to fascism from him MIGHTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT look like given historically existing fascism. Prease unda'stand.

Read above reread my previous posts just fucking read something with full comprehension already.

Well I just saw Jim Jeffries say he's the next Hitler and we must stop him saying he's a Fascist and I got angry reading it, because what the people calling him Fascist, if they get what they want, the backlash will be real Fascism and pushback against the CIA and NSA, which these retards are cheerleading for.

This hyperbole, liberals cheering Bush, muh Russia, Evan McMullen and John McCains of the world seen as heros, there is no sane criticism of Trump anywhere, everything is tainted by some scumbag motive.

welcome to politics dumbass, don't expect "pure" motives.

I don't, I'm saying they are going to GET FASCISM by their use of bad faith motives.

I understand and I was basically arguing the same thing at the start of this thread: >>1423437

I think liberals are going overboard with the fascism criticisms and I think the main criticism of that I could say aside from him not doing those things I previously listed is he just isn't popular enough with the population, the military or most of big business to successfully have a real coup function. Things can always change but as of now, the liberal nightmare version of Trump seems like nothing more than a caricature. He's doing the usual kind of bad shit, not special fascism championship edition bad shit.

Idpol is poison that kills any leftist movement it infects. I'd rather we err on the anti-idpol side.

Most Nazbols are jokers. The ones that aren't took the joke seriously or flew over from Holla Forums assuming that Nazbols are Nazi who also hates capitalism.

Other than that I think you are spot on.
What you mention is almost assuredly an effect of the board rising in popularity and attracting more people. Not that is a bad thing by itself, but when people come in droves without adjusting to the group norms it becomes a mess. It's obvious quite a few posters come here with the imageboard mentality and a parlance of sectarianism, assuming that the board is just like any other but with a Leftist slant. (Hence the rise in internet tribalism, acridity and throwing around of completely uninformed opinions.)
Add to that the lax and confused moderation and things are bound to shift. (You'd think the moderation would at least address sectarian rhetoric, but alas.)

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That is not what he said at all. Quit being disingenuous.

there's literally nothing wrong with racism

No it isn't. You're like the Nazis shitting on Jewish authors. If the book is bad you should be capable of recognising its flaws and using them to better understand the context and the author's reasoning.

Saging a D&C thread, fuck you OP.

as long as it's directed towards the bourgeois or classcucks

btw I've been meaning to ask, what's the communist position on the chimpanzee question? Given the huge material gulf between the perfect blank-slate soviet man and actual living organisms, what is to be done with all the ones that are indisputably non-human?

They really were, especially in regard to nationalism. And why the fuck would you cite Mao as someone who was not idpol? He was idpol as fuck, and it completely fucked China over. "Socialism with Chinese characteristics" my ass.

NO U

Saged for bourgeois liberal D&C.

OP, you're a cunt. No need for a thread like this. All it does is force people into fucking camps for which stupid nuanced position do you agree more and fuck everyone else.

You discuss shit in other threads, you debate your ideas around with other comrades. THIS IS HOW ORGANIZATIONS SPLIT. I've seen it before.

But otherwise I agree with you regarding socialist feminism.

Read Luxemburg and Emma Goldman you illiterate comrades.

Everything is of value. Let's read Thomas the Tank Engine and consider its revolutionary implications. No, fuck the big tent and fuck feminism. People came here to escape it and it hunts us down and makes demands? No. Back to Reddit.

I know what you mean comrade, and I do debate in other threads. I'm immedietely flooded by "go back to reddit/tumblr" for even mentioning that there is nuance to the struggles of different populations within the working class.

If anything I just want to bring to newfags attention that this board's rhetoric has shifted to the right since its founding.

The human race is repressed by capitalism you fucking retard

wow this thread went to shit

We tried to be cool kids and kowtow to Holla Forums's fucking schizophrenic bullshit with Jews and Globalism. The board became paranoid of coming off like /r/socialism and the rest of the left internet spheres. So we started to use shitskin and nigger unironically, not in some keeping with chan irreverence, but just to counter-signal idpol. Which made actual polyps comfortable here, you see "i'm socialist economically, but fascist politically and socially" threads constantly. Its not a coincidence that there has been an uptick since the Trumpenreich rose to power. I personally side with the Right Wing on a whole range of issues over the Left. But, i do not appreciate basic discussion of the freedom of women, gays, blacks etc to labeled idpol. There is a clear as day difference between BLM style gibmedat-oppression olympics-white guilt cuckery and recognizing that Black people are almost certainly human and capable of civilization and thus deserving of respect and freedom. This is a basic, obvious LEFT WING perspective that defines the Left from the Right, who deny inferior cultures humanity or freedom due to belief in the right of conquest and dominion. This board would do well to oppose the State and Academia especially more than it does atm. Another thing that disgusts me are the number of Soc Dems who poison the waters with pro-Corbin, Bernie and Greens nonsense. We should never ever side with spineless fags who will take it in the ass from Fascists on the Day of the Rope and give us away when faced with violence. They would gladly sit quietly while we're all thrown out of helicopters or dismembered with chainsaws. Lastly, the NazBols are fucking unacceptable, at this point I think taking down "why aren't you NazBol" threads is necessary. If pol isn't allowed to come on here and start ranting about autism levels and "muh kikes" then NazBols shouldn't be allowed to be slick entryists and draw people in with bait threads designed to "red pill" leftists into ethno-nationalism (which is what they want regardless of the rhetoric) and "muh kikes".

Good thread, I wish more of the old heads on here would sperg out a bit when this bullshit is allowed to go unchallenged. Also for the love of God can people please start citing papers/studies/journal articles refuting "muh racial autism levels" bullshit? We look like weasels when we try to brow beat Nazis instead of making them look scientifically illiterate.

Blacks shouldn't live in appalling conditions compared to whites. While there are indeed absolutely horrendous white ghettos, trailerparks and rural communities where 70-90% white populations languish in third world living standards, it is clear that Blacks have the worst of the economic situation and that it directly relates back to reconstruction, Jim Crowe, Slavery and deep seated dehumanizing hatred of Africans. I don't think they're deserving of reparations, or that i can't say nigger, or that i am priviledged (i'm not at all), or that we need to celebrate blackness or that black racial politics isn't inherently racist in nature, but they do need to be taken out of project housing and third world ghettos. Its not acceptable that like 30% of the black population lives in poverty. Yes they have iphones and ps4's, no they don't have health care or good education or access to clean, healthy food and water. You can scoff at BLM and 'Blackness' without turning your back on people who the State have scapegoated and victimized for the profit of the owner/ruling classes.

The same goes for women, and to a lesser extent gays (i say lesser because statistically they are the smallest of the 3 big "idpol" demographics). They don't deserve special priviledges and awards, but they shouldn't be treated like second or third class citizens. Two gays should enjoy the same marital status as straights, with all the benefits that come with it. Women should be allowed access to education, healthcare and economic resources at the same rates that men are. I think women are by far the furthest along here with gays being the next, which is why I emphasize blacks as a troubled and vulnerable population. Women are almost done with their uplifting and I really think feminism is mostly unnecessary now in the West, but was extremely necessary in the early 20th century (look up homicide rates of women by spouses and DV rates, its absolutely horrifying)

Why has it become "cool" to be a selfish prick?
I see people calling each other 'moralfags' as though having morals is something to be ashamed about. Are people just to lazy to try and do good that they would rather mock those who do?

lol cringe, don't you know that identity soent exist.
There is a difference between derailing a thread with idpol, and derailing a thread because you are so anti-idpol you might as well be a eusocial insect

cool, waiting for your considered and modernised analysis of gender relations in developed capitalist countries followed by your endorsement of socialist MRA platforms

Because moralfags are almost as bad as religious cucks.

They are controlled by spooks and have no freedom.

Also humanity is selfish, you can tell yourself what a nice person you are so you can selfishly feel better but actions say more, and again things like donation aren't done out of some selflessness but because it makes the person feel better by telling himself he is a good human being.

The only people that really matter are the ones close to you, the rest are irrelevant because you don't have a personal connection with them
Unless you accept humanity is selfish and accept this truth you will remain spooked.

And no that doesn't mean you are an asshole to minorities, we all benefit if we are tolerant and accept each other and fighting fascism and bigotry

A lot of rambling for "We should be more like r socialism!".

These "social reactionaries" are doing a lot more to dismantle liberalism than any suckdem or leftcom has done in decades.

Except OP didn't say anything like that so fuck off

It is through my morals that I gain eudaimonia, it is through eudaimonia that I gain freedom from everything. It is the most deadly spook of all to reject morality in the attempt to be despooked.

Do you even virtue ethics comrade?

Ethics =/= Morals

Thank you, exactly. I'm not trying to divide or sabatoge the board I'm trying to point out that the right shift is doing exactly that

It's stupid as fuck that a thread about the achievments of the radically militant socialist Black Panthers is dismissed as liberal Identity Politics and then theres multiple huge threads about the Green Party.

kek micro.aggress.ions corrected to holocaust as is appropriate for SJW rhetoric

Who doesn't, though

Social issues is not what defines "right."

Good god no. Moral relativism blows that retarded shit out of the water, even if moral relativism itself is BTFO by nihilism.

I'd rather "marriage" itself were to be abolished.

Other than that, there nothing pro-idpol about your position. Wanting the opposite, would be idpol.

For some reason especially on 8ch you have people that cling to Holla Forums's bygone caustic atmosphere and attitude and use it as a justification for being a petty dickhead to strangers on the internet while conveniently forgetting to be or even attempt to be humorous.

'board culture' was a mistake

I think I'm particular we have more polcucks lurking and they get massively asshurt when black people are talked about positively or praised or defended, so you have all these ignorant nubs that don't know any better and have nothing to contribute and shithead pollacks that know enough jargon to appear leftist while spewing 'kill all niggers' tier rhetoric

Not off to a good start.
no
what? no we didn't.
maybe? we're not a hivemind though.
Wanting to not walk into oncoming traffic like the person who just did that after seeing them become road pizza =! paranoia.
I don't see that happening m8, and I've been here since '14. Also being able to infallibly discern sarcasm perfectly even without being able to tell what tone of voice the person meant you to read it in, through people posting whose first languages have different idioms than English, and some of whom are mentally not well is an awesome trick, can you teach me how it's done? are you detecting anything right now?
That's why when they post here they regularly have autistic meltdowns and self-destruct like computers Captain Kirk tricks with logic puzzles.
Tankies and Nazballs don't represent everyone on this board m8. Not a hivemind.
Save your histrionic skullfucking of Godwin's Law for when he does something really bad, you're popping your load too early. Also yes, a contentious national election in a populous country is likely to cause an increase in radicalism and political discussion.
I never would've guessed
If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
There is a clear-as-day difference between acknowledging the humanity of black people and making that the exclusive focus of a board that seeks that right for people of all races, colors and genders through means of replacing the system with one that is better for everybody.

1/2 codemonkey can't code

2/2 fix your boards

Vague, non-actable bullshit. Also Burgerland =! the world and Holla Forums =! your personal army.
Why?
No I will not stop liking what you don't like, and there's nothing you can do about it, nerd!
Yes, I'm sure everybody will act the exact same as they did a century ago on the other side of the fucking planet. The Rosa meem has gotten out of fucking hand.
Nice memes. This smacks of concern-trolling.
They're annoying but the system we've got can handle them without making being one a bannable offense. Usually they shit things up hard enough that they get b&, and they're easy enough to spot and either ignore or btfo for their vapid rhetoric that sounds oddly similar to Holla Forums's hammy DnDspiel.
If they have them for other ideologies, I don't see why we can't have them for Nazbols.
As is my understanding, they're allowed to do that as long as it doesn't reach raid/jaypeg diarrhea spam levels. They get btfo hard and usually get banned when they resort to their usual rhetoric of allcapsing about cuckoldry and rope and Kek and lovingly-thought-out scenarios involving big black cocks.
t. OP the faggot
lol fuck off
We're reaching levels of smug, pompous autofellatio that shouldn't even be possible
We do.
you're right we should spend more time debunking the same shit they post every thread. That would be a productive use of out energy.

Egoism is a spook.

Try to define either "self" or "interest".

Tho ive used it as a descriptor here, "social issues" is a nonspecific term. What I mean is that there is material exploitation, division and suppression of the proletariat along race and gender lines, which is absolutely a leftist issue and anti-identitarian in that it is explicitly attacking the substanceless identities and how ridiculous it is that they are allowed to warp a material understanding of class.
But people are still killed, imprisoned, abused and restricted based on those identities, so saying "lol spooks who cares XD" is not a solution to the kind of extreme identity politics that supports racism and sexism.

And no its not going to be fixed by liberal faggot condescending language policing or oppression olympics, and that cancer is the result of the academic class of a capitalist society subverting and castrating radical language to give the illusion and catharsis of radical critique without the main core of theory (class struggle and working class liberation) and praxis.

Post-colonialism, neo-colonialism and gender theory should not be ceded to reformist (at best) liberal cancer, because they are genuinely good theories written by genuine radicals. Frantz Fanon and Judith Butler have far more in common with Marx and Hegel than they do with the liberal academia that has appropriated them.

me.
what i want.

gn dude

Have you even READ Butler?

Serious

yes, fair enough that she probably has much less in common with them, but zizek nonetheless sees value in her work. maybe butler is a bad example but i think the point stands

face it, Holla Forums is the left wing of the alt-right movement

half of you fucks were probably politically radicalized by gamergate

Zizek is a fool and should not be used as a litmus test for who is a genuine radical with genuinely good theories. But even then he is always careful to mention his many "disagreements" with Butler when he brings her up.

All of those things are cancerous, have no path to creating any sort of post capitalist framework, and antithetical to a real class struggle based on Marxist dialectics. Not only that, but Islamic immigration effectively will end any chance at revolution in Europe that is not right wing.

I am seizing this meme.

GTFO, you capitalist piece of shit.

You're a moron.

Emancipation of all oppressed peoples isn't liberal. You can agree with economic equality and worker ownership while still fundamentally agreeing with idpol.

idpol without class analysis is garbage, naturally but there's no reason to push it aside and not view it as an inherent proponent of Socialist ideology.

Your dichotomy of the black homeless guy juxtaposed with middle class LGBT+ advocates is a false one. Of course these struggles mostly dwell through the existence of class structure but making conditions better for people shouldn't be seen with malice.

Emancipation of all oppressed peoples isn't going to come about out of fighting for gay bathroom abortion marriage laws. It doesn't matter if idpol is theoretically aligned with communism in the universal emancipation sense because in all practical matters it is at best a distraction.

really makes u think

Yeah I don't care about your "well-being" (how capitalism is working out for you) all i care about is ending capitalism

Read Epictetus

If you are trying to deny the Academic shift into 100% this area, and all these minorities flocking to them rather than getting at the root cause. It's not just a distraction it's a built in function to replace the overthrow of capitalism.

It's totally intellectually bankrupt which is the other problem.

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Stop listening to porkie's sweet little lies

The mods on Holla Forums need to be better or we need new mods.

FACT

Majority of far left movements accept the role of ideals like feminism my dude. Holla Forums is simply wrong, friend

SCUM manifesto is good tho

Holla Forums is never wrong

This.

The majority of "far left" political groups are Cold War leftovers that have long since devolved into liberalism out of apathy.

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You spelled "always" wrong.

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Strawman.

I'd rather have this board consist of 50% nazbols, stirner kiddos, suckdems and actual fucking nazis than ever put up with the kind of cancerous moderation represented by places like r/socialism.

Yeah the amount of retarded people here is irritating. I suppose I'm the kind of person who belongs on /r/socialism i.e not a schauvinist racist nazbol

I'll start frequenting this board once again as soon as the mods have purged all these reactionaries

The problem is that while you may think so, Holla Forumsyps and nazbols label everything idpol, and then you can both agree to hate it even though you disagree on what it actually is.

And who are these reactionaries? The people that don't believe we are absolutely equal in all things? People that think minority disenfranchisement actually exists?

Those that reject the Holodomor as a genocide? Or the ones that don't believe the Soviet Union was as bad as Nazi Germany?
Is it the black nationalists? The third worldists? The ones opposed to non-western immigration for ecological reasons?
Is the posters that think the erosion of the family unit has been to the detriment of our society? Or rather the ones that believe there are 600 genders?

"Reactionary" is a codeword for "Someone who says things I don't like". It's become a meaningless phrase, a buzzword like "shill" on Holla Forums or "fascist" in mainstream discourse.
A symptom of culture where people cannot discuss their disagreements in a rational fashion.

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it doesn't have to be one or the other tho

Well we should just keep reminding them that they are the most idpol people on the board.

Near mdoe and far mode enemies. You worry about the enemies that are your neighbors, not the ones on the other side of the world.

If you're more afraid of the fashys than the liberals (or hell other leftists) I have some bad news for you.

Actually, that's exactly what it is in practice.
Purge the spam. But leave the discussions alone. A group of obnoxious nazis is a lot less of a threat to this board than one trigger happy moderator.

I've never seen anyone leave r/socialism because of "ableism", "brocialism" or "racism". But I've seen plenty getting banned because some moderator decided they had used "problematic language". Sometimes months and years in the past.
You know. Like the horrors of saying "idiot", drawing catgirls or having used "cunt" in an ironic way once on a totally unrelated board.

This attitude of "ban the reactionaries!" is exactly the kind that attracts vagabonds and total creeps. Moderators should deal with spam only. We are totally capable of contesting other peoples views and defend our own. Thank you very much.

I mean the violent shitposting and people such as the nazbols whose views on justice only extended to the nation. It's basically fascism with a human face.

I have nothing in common with people like that

To be honest I don't really care for niggers, or any other scum races like pajits and chinks. We would be better off leaving them be and keeping them out so we can build a communist utopia by and for the hard-working aryan race.

Rootless cosmopolitans however need to be exterminated.

care to elaborate?

Welcome to NazBol

several points
- The neoliberal paradigm tends to sum up all extreme and unacceptable thought as either nazism or communism, sometimes even conflating the two. They're basically a modern, secular stand-in for Satan.
-Obviously the current neoliberal paradigm isn't working out too well, given the increase in social problems and left and right radicalization.
- Nazis and communists describe each other as the ultimate evil.
- Marxists oppose pretty much all aspects of Nazism- attempting to pick and choose aspects of Nazism that 'weren't that bad' is seen as a form of crypto-nazism. Likewise, Nazis, act the same when it comes to anything that smacks of crypto-Marxism.
- Both nazis and communists seem to be obsessed with the uniqueness of white identity politics. For Nazis, everything begins and ends with whiteness; whiteness is essentialized as everything positive, blackness and jewishness as everything negative (thus they tend to dismiss anything positive that has taint of blackness or jewishness) Social justice Marxists tend to do the same in reverse, where 'whiteness' and all the stereotypical aspects of that culture are treated as the 'norm' of the capitalist society they attack.
- Even in leftist communities that supposedly eschew identity politics, 'whiteness' and the values that go with it are implicitly treated as the default values, which leads the social justice left to accuse places like Holla Forums of being obscurantist or crypto-fascist.
- National Bolshevism is appealing because 1. the obvious edgy factor of combining the two most demonized ideologies 2. it's demonized by the purists of both those two demonized ideologies- it's a double-rebellion 3. everyone has their own idpol, and it acknowledges that all of our different id-pol groups are analogous but not equivalent, thus making idpol itself rather superfluous.

What the fuck do they have to do with the left, when "social" (by which they mean cultural) "justice" (by which they mean upholding the rights of the dead over the living) drifts left or right as circumstances require?
Yo dawg I heard you like synthesis
So I put a synthesis in your synthesis so you could Hegel while you Kegel

Same, thats why im here instead of there. For all Holla Forumss faults at least I can fucking raise this as an issue freely, which is why I stay and wont touch anything like r/socialism. But im not going to get along with Nazis and Nazbols even if I prefer to put up with them than banhappy liberal language police.

When this boards great its great, by far the best place for leftist discussion on the internet. Probably should have clarified that in the OP so I didnt look like a d&c fbi

What the fuck does this even mean? Does this mean smashies? Supporters of purges? People that cheer for the Red Army? People that are okay with hitting nazis?

So fucking what? Ever heard of socialism in one country? Not every form of socialism is worldwide permanent revolution.

Guess what. I have little in common with socdems and M-L. That doesn't mean those people are a threat or should be banned.

This "Someone doesn't agree with my infallible snowflake political ideology, they should be banned!" attitude is exactly what sunk r/socialism.

This image is profound in ways I haven't read enough theory to describe

Imageboard culture leads to cross board-pollination and eventually integration. Contact with this place is not unidirectional. Holla Forums will eventually contribute and fuse into the greater gestalt and become indistinguishable from the sitewide userbase.

That's like when Feminists say you just have to teach men not to rape.

I agree that this board takes the bait waaaaay too easily and hasn't learned anything in two years

IMO it's good in some ways because Holla Forums shit can be debunked, which I think had helped leftypol succeed. Sometimes you do have people who legitimately believe that nonsense and are open to having their minds changed. It seems like that is an experience lots of posters here share.

But you're right in that even effortless bait gets lots of responses and that isn't helping anything.

Exactly, which is why we should reject feminism entirely. Feminism is not an egalitarian movement. It is socially authoritarian and, at this point, fundamentally conservative.