Are the chans actually more left-wing than we think...

Are the chans actually more left-wing than we think? I've noticed that a lot of the 'chart' threads on r9k show people's political compass as bottom left. Why do the stormfaggots and bootlickers dominate all the conversations?

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because stormfags spend all day online so they have the time to shit up conversation

You mean this one? It has a bias towards the bottom-left quadrant, people always seem to end up there. I wouldn't read too much into it.

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I think most "apolitical" people on imageboards are inclined towards the left, its just that most people who are passionate about politics on tend to be far right save for the obvious boards/sites.

Because the chans are the only place where people can be honest with their believes and it seems most peoples believe in far-right ideology

Because shills spam.

In proper communities they need to use persona management software but here and many other places they infiltrated the mods so they don't get banned.
moot commercialized it with 4chan gold accounts.

This

Is there one without a bias anywhere?

Those charts are shit though

This one is better people-press.org/quiz/political-typology/ but none of them account for non-capitalist ideas so there's not much point if you're a socialist.

Zizek once said that right wing authoritarians in the middle east internalize the western critiques of Islam and the prostrate themselves by being defiant against the perceived global super ego of the fukuyamist paradigm.

I think chan culture to the extent that it exists is similar it realizes what is wrong with the world but defines itself in opposition to these facts and some of the obvious hypocrisy inherent in the goals of the current age. There are dumb things about multiculturalism that are easy to point out, but the mainstream of culture doesn't which allows subcultures to point out the obvious and seem like "enlightened" outsiders.

generally means they're normie libs. it's pretty hard to not end up in the bottom left provided you are not fucking retarded.
The leftist presence on chans has been growing slowly over time. Partially because everyone fucking hates how Holla Forums keeps making race threads and partially just general de-classcucking. It's very subtle, but I think there is a growing amount of lefties on most boards.

Most of those people are Democratic Socialists and Social Democrats who like to pretend to be right wing and/or Racist/Sexists, etc (Depending on the board), mostly for shitposting purposes.

i've read that zizek critique of authoritarians in the middle east. interesting that you draw that parallel to chan culture

Is there an alternative that isn't based on the assumption that you're from the US?

Check out this thread . They're all shit imo.

Cultures and subcultures are as much about what they positively are as about what they are negatively against. Chan culture is more about what it is not, than what it is.

We're not reddit, were not tumblr, etc. The thing that defines them is bland idpol liberalism which the chans try to be the opposite of by going to another crazy extreme, but under the surface they believe most of the same things about economics and social policies as the bland liberals they hate so much.

A lot of the problems with right wing Islam are the same problem with right wing imperialists in the first world, but the cosmetic differences and choice based freedom of capitalism mask the inherent similarities. I think chaners like those Muslims internalize the critique against themselves, but hold on to a small amount of genuine "truth" in opposition to obvious problems the modern world has. Another Zizek/lacanian insight, the most horrifying thing to do is to look in the mirror and realize you're the opposition you hate so much.

interesting…

Image board culture is inherently anarchistic, in practice not ideology, and stormfaggots dominate conversation because most of the practicing anonymous anarchists are stormfaggots. Now determining how many of those stormderps are actually sincere in their stormfaggotry is virtually impossible, which is why they themselves describe what they do as post irony.

that is so obviously made up marketing pr bullshit, i wonder if anyone actually doubts that this excuse for his shitposting comes from a shill and is parroted by idiots.

Post irony is actually a literary term. Not to confused with new sincerity.

False dichotomies.

Anonymity and prismatic identity allows people to lean towards a political orientation while exploring the taboos of that orientation.

Am I an individualist and a left-libertarian who thinks people should be as free as possible with basic needs be taken care of? Yes.

Do I think Hitler wasn't the worst person who ever lived, that he was an obvious reaction to terrible conditions, that we're told a lot of bullshit about Judaism, that the Balfour Declaration and Jewish Communism proves that they had effectively declared war on Germany as a race before Hitler retaliated? Yes.

The charts aren't sophisticated enough to give a nuanced appraisal of people's views.

Contrarianism has always been strong on image boards. I would be willing to bet that if genuine athoritarian racialist fascists ruled the west then the chans would be choc full of anti fascists.

Stormfags and SJW's have such an overinflated sense of importance that they spend too much time on the internet trying to dominate every conversation. The quiet level-headed majority can't keep up with their obsession. But worry not. Their demand for purity among them will eventually decimate their numbers because they ban everyone they disagree with from their forums and boards.

Case in point: I'm a fan of Trump because of how much he blasts the fuck out of the Lugenpresse but because I don't think killing those unlike me is the answer I'm banned forever from Holla Forums. It's these little details that will make them fight amongst themselves and fall apart.

Also a fair amount of them are trolls looking for the most hateful, offensive things to read and repeat to others.

They both apply here. Post-ironic attitudes on twitter a norm among the far right. While neo-sincerity is also well practiced particularly by frog twitter. I don't think you can easily separate them from the neo-reactionary movements that are sprouting up on the internet. Post-ironic trolling about genocide pairs with neo-sincere trad values and desires to return to Bronze Age/Greek Golden Age values. To deny them either of these would be unwise. Neither is necessarily a validation of their beliefs or an excuse for being what they are. Many leftists on the 'alt-left' twitter are neo-sincere supporters of violent revolution as well as post-ironic shit lords who joke about killing kulaks and raping fascist women. As the normies become more irony poisoned and begin realizing that taking some things seriously is probably necessary for their mental health, we will see a larger number of these half-joking/half-serious accounts that take completely sincere stands on issues we might consider unpleasant or improper to discuss. Maybe in 10 years it will become acceptable to joke about genocide and rape in most "polite" company and the kids/counter-culture will move on to something else subversive.

I think chans used to be left-wing but then Gamergate happened and Holla Forums took advantage of that. Holla Forums used to get laughed at but then they were taken seriously by people who hated SJWs. From there, new Holla Forums converts spread the ideology to other popular boards like Holla Forums and Holla Forums and so on.

I wouldn't say they used to be left wing. I knew some leftists on 4chan and I do remember some outspoken anarchists, but most everyone was either libertarian and liberal. Holla Forums relied more on immigrants from other sites than existing users I feel, but they definitely converted some to their retardation.

All the questions related to authoritarianism has a giant conservative bias, whilst everything that takes you right requires you to basically be an AnCap. So as long as you're socially progressive and don't believe the market is infallible, you'll usually end up somewhere in the bottom left.

Most perverts are conservative because they hate themselves for it.

Also like said, the huge change in political tone was largely because of newfags with Holla Forums dragging in clowns from Stormfront, Facebook and Reddit.

It's a degenerate shithole that is so degenerate that "being commie" or "being a nazi" is provocative. Because it's anti degenerate.

Either to fulfill their idealistic goals (as a motivational tool) or because they work harder, therefore they do more in conversations.

The left's fun is it's downfall.

[citation needed]

See:

Slander, it's Hiroyuki who gave extra benefits (like unbans, lower cooldowns, etc) to people stupid enough to buy 4chan passes.

This. moot was a shitty admin, but he really did do his best. He loved 4chan.

And how is that indicative of 'mod infiltration?'

Im from pol, and I always end up somewhere around here

Those quizzes are always kind of shit, to be fair.

Every normal person gets the green box bottom left in this test. Its biased.

Absolute nonsense, I don't care if Zizek said it.

It seems like stupid people are generally more confident and outspoken. Similar to dunning-kruger, but there's probably a different name for it.

Also it's easier to post memes and make low-effort posts.

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I lurk on Holla Forums sometimes.

Because like most of people, they know shit about politics or economics, and MSM propaganda has portrayed communism not only as evil as nacional socialism, but also as a gateway to poverty. So aside from the "equality and helping the poor" they get from the liberals, they fear leftism.

yep

I met a WoW autist in my inorganic chem class once who I expected to be an Alt-Right guy because of the chan culture vibes he radiated. Turns out he was a union supporting left liberal. People surprise you sometimes OP.