Stirnerite egoist unionism and Bordigist organic centralism seem to have gigantic overlap, wherein for Stirner only if the self-interest of the whole union of egos is sated things are to be done, and for Bordiga only if the class-material interest of the communist horizon is completely unanymous centrally things are to be done. Both also having a disdain for sacrificing this consensus-led common good through compromises like a vote, which have the power to break the unity of individual members and their collective interest in always being in proper agreement; the agreement that their organization must be a ego-unitary organ. Democracy is a spook only opportunists fall for.
This is not a shitpost: fusing two of the board's most iconic subjects of shitposting was only the way of spiritual-material dialectic to inform us of this ultimate synthesis. You may not like it, but Stirnero-Bordigist egoist centralism is the future. Deal with it, you go-getting specters.
shitposting aside that is actually unironically some big overlap in how to approach politics between the two.
how did you make the flaming text btw?
Hunter Kelly
Are you doubting the egoist organ's wisdoms, you fucking ectopportunist?
cooltext.com > burning logo type + font > save as transparent PNG w/ alpha compositing.
Sebastian Russell
how?
David Martinez
Just export the image to a decently advanced image editor like GIMP by copy/pasting the source file – GIF or PNG depending on whether you animated it or not on cooltext.com – and within editor exporting it as transparent PNG, which in GIMP is called PNG with alpha compositing.
Levi Lewis
Can we like, ban all these fucking autists
Ryder Ortiz
My fucking sides.
If we're going to start banning autists you'll be the first to go, you mutie sperg.
Elijah Ross
Sick and tired of these marxists cucks making fun of us mutualists
Go ahead, try to point out just ONE flaw with mutualism
Kevin Gutierrez
It's capitalism.
Cameron Reed
Wrong
Colton Williams
Don't get the hate tbqh. I am offering you a revelatory avenue of compromise between Stirner and Bordiga: the ultimate and final politics for a way out of capitalism that is both idealist and materialist, individualist and collectivist at the same time; this synthesism of egoist unionism and organic centralism that will lead us to certain self-other-interest.
It's not egoist centralism.
Luke Rogers
Ok thanks
Jeremiah Reyes
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Easton Torres
No im just post-modern
Kayden Carter
He's not the one merging memes and considering it progress.
Owen Rivera
No problem.
I didn't offer you mutualism tho.
Kevin Cooper
By Proudhon andnTucker you will pay for that comment
Dominic Jackson
Christ, another one. Are you breeding or something? If you are please stop, I don't want to live in a world full of humourless robots.
It helps that he was principally in agreement with the general mission of the IWA he joined: that of not seeking to make immediate changes for the sake of it, but of a circle of highly class conscious intellectuals to critique one another. This is also why he said the following of Proudhon: >though opposed to socializing the ownership of capital, [Proudhon] aimed nevertheless to socialize its effects by making its use beneficial to all instead of a means of impoverishing the many to enrich the few…by subjecting capital to the natural law of competition, thus bringing the price of its own use down to cost (from: flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/tucker/tucker2.html) which is already a step above recognizing Proudhon's efforts as somehow post-capitalistic, but simply a specific, well-argumented type of social reform (which Proudhon's mutualism was, for the record).
Join the organic centralist vanguard of the materialist egoists, comrade. Together we can bring certain change to the world, both for our own benefit and that of craven man.
Caleb Sanders
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Owen Williams
I miss the spooky skeleton squad.
Matthew Taylor
I believe he's quoting Benjamin Tucker.
Ian Thompson
how the fuck is anything supposed to get done without voting?
Matthew Walker
Only way to solve this is breadlines
Hudson Roberts
Wot
Chase Young
Correct, I quoted Tucker on Proudhon for the larger part of my post. I don't know why you insisted on sperging out at the small part where I link Marx's Manuscripts on Proudhon.
I'd say you're triggered, but I don't want to alienate a future potential egoist-vanguardist to the organic centralist fold. So join me, fellow infant in the making.
Ryan Johnson
Organic decision-making: only if there is an unanymous, proper plan of action to go forward, prior universally-accorded decisions by the egoist central reign. This, in turn, forces upon the egoist-vanguardist system of organic centralism to press upon the process of unanymous agreement to their selfish-material horizon and to make a decision.
Still spooked and as opportune as ever are your deviations.
Xavier Allen
Wow, glad the idea took off
Julian Long
Today is only the birthbed of egoist centralism. Nothing can stop us.
Nolan Sullivan
but compromising implies an other, therefore non egoist. self-other-interest is not egoist
this is contradictory in every way
Blake Bennett
If your self-interest is mutually assured through discourse-pathed agreement, you are not impeding upon your self-interest, and that of material interest in your class.
Are you saying the Creative Infant's maxim of desire is not to be in firm control of ensuring that all other egos/Creative Infant's maxims of desire are fulfilled in accordance to their universal interest in abolishing capitalism?
Jacob Allen
shit really, that's hard to even conceive of huh i wonder if maybe there are more examples of this and the reason they're not well discussed is pointless sectarianism
Hunter Adams
sounds pretty spooky
Jayden Sanchez
Is there a situation in which the subject of wage labor's interest is not to abolish his condition of existence? If yes: you're either a localist or an idealist, who thinks that self-interest is either dependent on one's literal or productive-relational position in society exlusively (and not the material constitution that shaped these localities) if the former, or that one's self-interest appears out of some spooky spiritual realm into people's minds like Ayn Rand's and many other classcucks and cuckettes did and thought if the latter.
Embrace egoist centralism.
Hudson Morris
Bump for the new vanguard of the universal ego's self-interest in egoist centralism.
Blake Davis
Read the two texts here and synthesize their radical conclusions.
Matthew Nelson
you really can't reconcile egoism with communism
Landon Johnson
You can reconcile egoism with anything as long as you authentically desire what you are doing
Thomas James
The reason its not discussed is because the good nihilist posters don't post here as often as they used to, and the only ones that do are shitty, dogmatic market socialists. The reason behind market socialist stirner posters? Both Stirner and Market Socialism are meme positions that are adopted by people who read very little, if at all, and that includes their own theorists and those that responded to them.
John Turner
BUMP
Josiah Sanchez
The only guy with an overlap with Stirner is…
Isaiah Barnes
OC bump. So OP, any ideas on how we could manage the milk shops without leaving our comfy armchairs?
