I'm starting to think a lot of people who fall into alt right or pol tier thinking legitimately have no morals or...

I'm starting to think a lot of people who fall into alt right or pol tier thinking legitimately have no morals or empathy. They all seem to have such malice in their hearts. It's just depressing to watch.

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lel wikileaks is one of the tabs. nice try.

There are a lot of people who only understand social relations in terms of fear and domination. They will try to claw themselves to the top of whatever shitheap they can, to escape from getting shit on. The problem is they are so stuck in that mentality that they then shit on other people.

People always think they're doing the right thing. They're just misguided. The more you convince yourself they irredeemable that harder it is to actually get through to them.

need zizek to browse Holla Forums for a day and provide a based deconstruction

well, as someone that was alt right for a while, it's more paranoia

i'm still paranoid as fuck

I usually try to maintain a cordial tone and appeal to their better angels when I talk with them but they revert to spewing hatred and memes.

Most of the aut-right don't know anything about politics other than hateing "SJWs" and "Feminists". They fell into the idpol trap and now they have become idpol themselves with this autistic "white-identity" movment.

ah yesh, but what if this Holla Forums board had some truth to it? you see ash i claim […]

nobody actually argues on there anymore. the real problem is it has become very boring and repetitve

some of what they say is interesting though

paranoid about what?

I know this sounds like a cop out but a lot of them are just extremely fucking dumb. 99% of people on Holla Forums know absolutely nothing about politics. they're just extremely bored, depressed losers who are acting out. they don't know what they believe, they just know that these views make people angry.

and it clearly makes u mad LOL

maybe they're just hopelessly disenfranchised with the whole thing in the first place

if you compare the quality of posting there to any other forum it's not better or worse

Some aren't that stupid and will make an extreme effort to try and justify their horrible beliefs but really they're just cunts.

Holla Forums is just a right wing shithole

Wow look at all these spooks, on a board that generally favors a violent overthrow of the established order.

overthrowing the established order is morally correct when the established order is immoral.

boo fuckin hoo son who cares

another thing to consider is the sheer amount of traffic

traffic and quality of posting literally goes hand in hand, nobody will spend 10 minutes typing a decent post if it expires in an hour with only 4 people seeing it

hm, that's usually something i notice in government shills, but the majority of people just seems to lack knowledge.
though some non-government people do get really angry when they realize there is a real chance they could have been wrong. maybe they have a god complex and can't fathom the thought that they are not 100% perfect and correct in every regard of life.
it's probably because the goverment tries to convince people that feelings are more important than facts, and that actually the universe is shaped by people's feelings as opposed to natural laws.

what i don't get is why wikileaks is part of your meme gif?

We have better threads here than they got on pol

tell us how to convert more of you then

They don't base their world view on observations and evidence, they just assume they're being persecuted. They want to be.

Fucking spooks. I guess purges, gulags and killing a man and his family for merely being a shitty tsar was done by moral and empathetic people too, eh?

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Some of them are psychopaths or extreme narcissists but most of them are just broken idiots

There is no morality in respecting perverse hierarchies.

Morals are spooks.
Just admit that you and Holla Forums both strive for political power.

That's what reality does to you buddy. Trust me, I'd love for everyone to be equal and for race not to matter at all, but that's not the truth of the matter I've come to through extensive exhaustive research. Agree or not, I'm not here to argue about that. And the same could be said in the reverse for you and Holla Forums.

actually, the basis of right-wing politics is morality

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t. Dumbo

No its virtue or the right to rule by way of domination

yeah no, its morality

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Nope, nope nope. I don't condone mass murder, genocide, or torture.

That's not what I was implying. I just said that Right wing thinking is literally, "might is right" "the weak are meat and the strong do eat". That's the very basis of their thinking. Virtue means, inner strength and beauty as reflected by outer physicality and domination of others. A virtuous man in a right wing culture is one who conquers and takes without asking.

the issue there is might would be the people lynching them for doing that except the government is stopping that

You don't condone it, but your garbled gobbledegook system of governance will cause that anyway, so as far as you condoning it or not it doesn't matter.


And there is something majorly wrong with that?

pol here

I can't speak for others, but it's because I think nationalism is logical in the face of ingroup preference

a) human limitations on compassion/empathy (dunbar's number, putting self before others in a lot of cases, people generally liking those who are like themselves, regardless of the arbitrary nature of the subjects which are liked)
b) human limitations on communication
c) bias preference/fact shunning.

in my personal experience at least, people in general place feelings before thought and logic in most cases, even in so-called intellectual circles - if people in general feel good, it's easier to get along and function as a group easier. ethnicity and nationalism are easy to identify, common denominator dividing lines that apply to most people to create a homogeneous society that can function on a set of given, albeit arbitrary norms. it seems to be the most practical solution given what I've seen and read of people.

tldr ingroup preference will never go away, it's better to deal with it than ignore it.

what you are describing is government shills and a tiny amount of so-called failtrolls.

Is there morality in violently overthrowing them then? Because ultimately you're not destroying some faceless system, you're attacking real people you deem to be a part of it.

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lol no

No its might is right, they believe they are entitled to the lands their ancestors conquered and the to the oil resources of muslims because they're superior. Pretending that only half of pol's logic exists is a straw man. They also want to go Turner Diaries and expropriate Africa, Asia and the Pacific for Whites along with purging the inhabitants with nukes and nerve gas. That's a dominance principle expressing itself. their ideology is based on master morality, the idea that they are the good because they are strong enough to establish themselves as the powerful. To deny this is typical pseudointellectual leftist wishful thinking.

A whole wing of human politics is dedicated to dominating people because you can and destroying them at your whim because you can. Its righteous because you can and for no other reason.

Morality is a different axis that runs perpendicular to "everyone is equal" and "might is right" which are obviously opposite notions.

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words-in-mouth placement tactic this early in the reply

confirmed for triggered.

you don't think they'd arrest a dozen people for hanging someone?

its incomplete and leads to a million would be kings trying to dominate and constantly destroying the viability of the species and our ecosystem(s). It promotes bloodshed for the sake of itself and retards the growth of the sciences and renders religion and philosophy as hollow justifications for war instead of cultural fruits to feed and nourish the society. Violence is necessary, war is sometimes necessary, but perpetual war and a cult of war led by a bloodthirsty conqueror is a recipe for disaster every single time.

morality isn't "everyone is requal", the victim position the right takes is strictly because they are the weakest link, nietzche pointed out this in his genealogy of morals


you think you cannot fight the police, you think you cannot take people out of jail? lmao, those are excuses for the impotence

Holla Forums here we all know Chie is best girl and winning the lottery is the best feeling.

Hillary is a corrupt ruling-class scumbag and you know it deep down inside too, reddit.
Also, your political enemies are not all sociopaths or demons, you could at least keep enough of a grip to just think they're run of the mill assholes. With Holla Forums its more just like retards and edgelords though.

The ancient Right wing isn't moral at all, they don't care about morality other than their master morality. They are Nietzsche followers, a bunch of their most prominent minds have read him. The whigger nationalists and the actual alt right are two completely different things. If you'd actually read any of their long form content or spent time discussing their theories on society and ethics at any length with them you'd understand how they view christian and humanist morality. They even view the absolute monarchy and Elizabethan/European Monarchist conception of morality to be degrading and weak.

A barbarian conqueror god emperor, who enslaves every people who encounters, who makes them bend the knee, who rapes them even if they do, who destroys everything in his path for the sake of doing so is their literal metaphysical goal as a spiritual movement. That's the point. The fact that the left doesn't understand this is telling of how far behind they are in combating right wing propaganda. Trump is just one avatar of this archetype, this image of their perfect society/human (all in one remember, the man is the state) is in flat contradiction with the wimpy faggot logic of the whigger stormfags who cry about their subhuman genocide of peasant stock whites. The reason they all want muslims out is because they view them as culturally and biologically inferior stock and unworthy of inhabiting lands their ancestors conquered. Its about right of conquest and gene wars. To them even just a slight browning of their population, like in Sicily is degrading the stock of the powerful god-men who founded those cultures. Its an insult to the entire race (which is the product of one powerful overman) to mix with weak conquered slave races. There is logic behind everything they believe. It makes a huge amount of sense even considering everything I know about economics. The only thing that breaks it is the limited space/resources and infinite need to conquer and kill. It just doesn't work from an energy/cybernetic perspective.

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Precisely. The tsar's family would provide a rallying point for his reactionary supporters. The people who were purged like the Trotskyists and Bukharinites were purged because they were reactionary foreign agents of fascism and traitorous saboteurs.

I think the problem is they're moralfags.

Honestly they're hopeless

Just in every way. Their lives are going to carve up the future like lost ghost towns and book towns.

Theirs tells a story of capitalist failiure and lives lost to fewer and fewer opportunities

But is morality and necessity one and the same?

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It isn't a difference of opinion it's an entire lifestyle and set of opinions

Yeah but how do we show them that under capitalism they have no future? That their only chance is socialism?

They are not evil they are just psychotic. It's a mental disorder they are dealing with.

The problem is people who start off as gamergate tier plebs and get sucked into this shit.

Sometimes you can't

Far right psychology is defined by a deep lack of safety, or a deep feeling of insecurity. Nazis and such feel threatened by the world and as a response construct this culture of victimhood, where you are either with or against them – it is not so much that they hate other people, but rather that they are in a state of constant stress. Far right politics is not an issue of intelligence or education, it is primarily a mental health issue.

Actually I'd say the opposite. Alt Right, White Nationalism, Not Socialism, Radical Traditionalism etc is the result of hyper moralism.

they're just bad humans

Conditions are contexts. Some people are more interested in their social contexts and the faithful reproduction of those contexts than in their material conditions. However odd those values may seem in light of Maslow's hierarchy, those values are their heritage and their legacy to cherish. Those values are part of what makes home and family for them. Cringe related

Left psychology is defined by a deep lack of personal agency and the feeling of powerlessness. Leftists do not feel in control of their lives, and do not feel capable of securing their own existence. Unable to attain security on their own, they turn to society. Leftism in essence is a call for help, but one veiled in elaborate theoretical constructs to protect one's ego.

Hey, armchair psych is fun!

I shouldn't have to point out the irony of railing against Holla Forums and being ableist in the same breath.

This is meaningless psuedo medical horse shit

You are doing the equivalent of Star Trek technobabble on a medical level and hoping it sticks

People don't like globalism and endless immigration??? Must be sociopaths lol

This is your brain on Stalinism.

What in the fucking world

People who refuse to engage in complex situations that effect people's lives?

Yeah they must not be prepared for these scenarios in discussion

Comparing autistic people to Holla Forumsyps is grossly offensive to autistic people.

Comparing Holla Forums to anyone is grossly offensive but sometimes things just happen in demographics.

OP is almost certainly referring to the more politically developed fascists/nazis on Holla Forums, not the more moderate alt-right. Nobody on this board "likes" capitalist globalism or endless immigration that is fueled by poverty and war.
you may now return to your containment board

Isn't that basically the same justification the less-racist parts of Holla Forums use for excellent language?

Yes but Holla Forums isn't right about anything they're discussing. Talking about the fact lost autistic souls are trapped inside their holes there isn't really discriminating against anyone as Holla Forums is proposing in an ethnostate, Holla Forums

Of course not. But it's still indicative of a more subtle bias that certain sections of society are better than another whether or not you actually want to enshrine that in law.

It's not armchair psychology.

And? I'm not even saying "better", autistic people behave differently, more than "other races" behave differently. They need help in America, but they aren't getting the help they need.

It's a situation that is entirely different than the terms Holla Forums step up. It is not discrimination to say, Holla Forums is full of autistic weeaboos.

I must've struck a nerve.

No I'm actually in the field of psychiatry what you said was pure fucking nonsense.

It is though. Branding Holla Forums as autistic is massively ableist.

It's more akin to the way Holla Forums might use "gay" or "faggot" than how they use racial slurs. It's entirely grounded in associating those terms with a general idea of things that are bad.

So do gay people, it doesn't mean it's okay to start using "gay" as a term of extreme degradation.

If you think autistic people need help it'd be a start to stop stigmatizing it in that way.

It is hard not to agree with the all-encompassing shouts of "education, education, education" and that would be wrong because it is not a problem of education. In the vast majority of societies people are capable of perceiving reality as it is. But it is another matter to accept and endure it. It is therefore necessary to start earlier, namely in the individual psychic outfit of the people, which ultimately enables them to endure reality and to see it as it is. This is why it is really regrettable that, after every terrorist attack by the Islamist side, only asylum policy, stronger border controls and the "welcome culture" are being talked about rather than hindering such a thing from the outset.

The more effective alternative would be to invest massively in mental health, covering all areas, particularly in the case of risk groups. This is not about building more psychiatrics, developing better drugs, or the like, because health is not the absence of disease. It is, however, clear that anxiety pedagogy, lust, and life are very early in the child's psyche. This includes all areas of mental health:

1. A basic sense of security in the world - the "trust of trust" - can not develop when a child is raised with fear and shame from the beginning.
2. The feeling of being able to pursue and achieve goals is undermined as one grows up to be both an eternal victim of dark powers and a part of a "high-quality" group.
3. The same applies to the ability to look at oneself and others realistically rather than in "good" and "evil".
4. The whole relation to reality suffers just as under this scheme.
5. A realistic self-image and a healthy self-worth also not. Nothing is more detrimental to it than the certainty that one can take responsibility for one's own deficits on others.
6. The ability to endure suffering and still manage to develop does not develop when every form of pleasure is filled with shame and contempt. The same is true of the ability to experience and deal with the whole range of emotions.
7. Whoever does not create this with himself can not do it with others. To see the opposite as a full-fledged person, whose thoughts, feelings and behavior work independently and have nothing to do with one's own is strongly related to it.
8. Versatile strategies to deal with problems are only learned in a secure environment. A world perceived as hostile and hassled favors denial of reality, splitting of undesirable qualities and its projection onto the "enemy".
9. The balance between independence and attachment to others can not be achieved if a child grows up with the certainty that there is only disaster outside of one's own group - whether it is the community of faith, the German race or the family. Mentally healthy people can feel deeply connected to one another and yet still have the strength to be self-sufficient.
10. One of the greatest challenges is to endure things that can not be changed. Death can be infinitely sad, injustices furious, social crises unsettle and build up fears. But all this can be accepted and lived through instead of denying or projecting to others.

These ten points are not a "wellness". It is what makes a mentally healthy person. Considering that it is also about bringing refugees who have fled from unimaginably cruel conditions to this state, then it becomes clear that this is expensive. Even the domestic cases, which are abused, bullied and declared superfluous, come to this. In the long term, however, neither the expansion of the police presence nor the uninterrupted monitoring of all people will ensure. A government that is functioning normally would do its utmost to put these investments on the road. But how normal can a government that is fed by a population that has still not solved the problem of mental health?

translated from German with Google Translate so excuse any grammatical errors and such

Interesting, what's the source if I may ask?

keinetheorie.com/warum-psychische-gesundheit-mit-politischer-radikalisierung-zusammen-hängt-8eb2f5feda0f#.vh8dxynbl

How is it nonsense?

Are people not frustrated when they feel powerless and insecure?
They are.
Do they not turn to others for help if they are unable to help themselves?
They do.
Do they feel ashamed about it?
Generally, yes. We hate to admit our own mistakes and inadequacies.

Now I'll just map these sound assumptions to reality, and voila - leftists are motivated by their personal feelings of powerlessness and insecurity and turn to the adult surrogate in the situation (society) in order to relieve their crises.

johnchambersslu.weebly.com/uploads/2/4/8/5/24852857/schlenkeretal_jrp_2012.pdf

gsb.stanford.edu/sites/gsb/files/publication-pdf/Belmi Neale Mirror Mirror OBHDP.pdf

So the right wingers are disgusting normies?

So much for the redpill

We do not want white people to be minorities in their homelands and be subject to the whims of the subhuman brown hordes.

You are the ones who lack empathy.

Told you these faggots are moralfags

These faggots as in the right wingers

You don't need to be scared of someone who bluntly tells you he hates you. You can just leave.

The scary person is someone who tells you he loves you, and then stabs you in the back, and then destroys your reputation, and poisons all your sources of support, and then maintains absolutely nothing happened.

That's the left wing. Infested with sociopaths. Not surprising, because "the means justify the ends" is a shared conviction among all leftists.

Just go back to pol, heard they were discussing anime traps

Look, OP. If the "lack of morality" is your main motivation to look into leftism, you are not a leftist. Period.

We are the immoral ones. We are the masters of masses acting beyond good and evil. Slave morality is for the bourgeois.

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Only non-human entities can be amoral as they do not understand the human concepts of morality. Humans fall either into moral or immoral categories.

Why do you even post Nietzche?

Idea was to improve it by promoting supermen, not leave it behind but to rule over humanity.

Read beyond good and evil srsly.

Being Immoral is not going to help you rule over humanity in anyway

It leads to pragmatism, so yes it will.

The definition of today's politics.

I know we circlejerk a lot about this feels>reals meme, but it really seems that"s what right-wing beliefs come down to in a lot of ways.

Not to attack you, I feel like there is some truth to what you're saying. That the irrational emotional response (ingroup preference) to people of other races gets in the way of of a well functioning society.

Do you think this types of emotional response can be minimized or eliminated? Speaking from personal experience I used to be somewhat racist against arabs, but making a good arab friend has stopped me from viewing them as a hostile monolithic group.

Being hostile toward Arabs as a group is perfectly rational, having an Arab friend you get along with personally doesn't change much in the grand scheme.

Something like that seems only feasible in a post-scarcity society I think, where people either as individuals or groups do not have to compete for resources.

It seems reasonable to me that if you want to remove or allay what you perceive to be the negative effects of ingroup preference, you need to remove the impetus for said behavior. I believe said impetus is competition.

Addressing your arab friend - we as individuals have the potential to get along remarkably well despite our differences, which I think is great, but we also live in a society of groups. Racism is another simple expression of ingroup preference, but norms like 'dont judge a book by its cover' or 'black people =/= niggers' exist. It seems paradoxical until you realize that both racism and these norms compliment each other in the light of the fact that people are selfish and will put themselves over others. Racism allows for ingroup preference by selecting yourself and your needs in times of stress but the latter norms allow for positive relationships that can serve either the individual or group. Of course, hardline Arabs may then declare your arab friend an 'uncle tom' or equivalent term for "group traitor" because, again, people are selfish.

It's easy to dehumanize a group of people. Like you're doing now. You're doing what they do. Next you'll say we have to gas the nazis.

That's a reasonable observation. It's been proven through scientific studies that teenagers are sociopaths.

Chosen moral guidelines are a better standard for extermination than inherent born traits tbh, and I have no idea how the two would be morally equivalent.

Id iz az you would say, you know uh uhh…" *sniff "…A total catharsis these new scho-called conservatives, as you refer to them de alt-right"

I was Holla Forums tier as a kid. I was just ignorant, reactionary, xenophobic, stubborn and emotional. Every poltard has that 100% exact same mentality but to different degrees.

Yet Jewish or black identity is perfectly fine and natural. You are content with just knowing you have the right-on opinions to fit in or show that you've got good vice.com taste whereas I am bothered by double standards.

idpol is the very thing alienating most of the political spectrum from leftist cause. besides, i'm pretty sure Holla Forums has a large amount of legit autism. they display a lot of tendencies: very ordered worldview, low social skills, fascination with certain very specific subjects, affinity for a rigid life structure…

That line from the Jacobin article summarizes them pretty succinctly: "the lowest form of a vacuous, faux-ironic, sniggering moral imbecilism."

ah, yes

What is psychoanalytical theory for 500 Alex

As Haidt discovered almost all political inclinations are primarily emotional in nature, with the "rational" side (MUH THEORY) being essentially post-hoc rationalisations

The establishment says you cannot be racist towards white people and encourages tribalism of all ethnic groups that aren't white. There is no equality of outcome argument for this because the establishment is not arguing that tribalism of non-whites should cease once equality is achieved.

The establishment is run by holocaust revanchists who don't have the numbers to fight in a war against whites so they argue to white people not to be tribalist, so they themselves can be more effective in their tribalism.

That's malice.

The obese woman at your college is not "the establishment"

A completely arbitrary concept. There is no such thing as an absolute morality.
A side effect of high Estrogen levels, evolved to make mothers more caring.

>"White muh privilege theory is only talked about on university campuses, thanks to some mystical magical barrier those students that graduate from schools soaked in it will never take white muh privilege theory with them when they graduate and enter the commanding heights of society"

Postmodernism was created to justify the status quo, not the other way around.

If you think "white priv" is part of the foundation of world power, you are seriously deluded.

So you're acknowledging that it does have an impact?

No, I am saying that it is meant to prevent impact.

There can only be two reasons for dogma regarding white people being the only group forbidden from tribalism.

1. The people curating the dogma are not white/holocaust revanchists

2. White people are curating the dogma which would mean they would have to be unique in their anti-tribalism compared to other societies in the world

If number 2 was true that would contradict the justification for the double standard which is that whites are uniquely tribalistic.

What the fuck are you on about? Just because you disagree with the application, doesn't mean it's not having an impact.

Yes of course we're all sociopaths.

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jews, and the anger non-whites have. plus the intentions and reality of communism as a whole


maybe don't mock people

i already distrust the left enough as it is. i just want my shitty life to change

at this point i don't give a shit if that means fascism or communism. at least under fascism i might be given something to be proud of and work for. i see very little to gain from communism at this point.

but the far right is probably equally as likely to shoot me as the far left. so at this point i don't give a shit really. might just give up on politics and try to push all knowledge of it out of my mind.

What even is an "impact"? The notion of "white muh privilege" is utterly meaningless except as yet another bullshit notion told to people to get them to accept the status quo by caring about something irrelevant. It's no different from any other convenient lie.

I'm not arguing the veracity of the concept of "white muh privilege", I'm saying that regardless thousands of university graduates have been immersed in the theory and its inevitable that many are going to put it into practice

nais.org/Magazines-Newsletters/ISMagazine/Pages/Addressing-White-Privilege-in-Independent-Schools.aspx

The "oh you only hear about that shit on the university campus, ergo there are no ramifications for the world outside the university system" is grossly disingenuous

I swing between Holla Forums and Holla Forums mindsets

I want socialism. But I can't help but feel Holla Forums has a point on quite a few issues.

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i don't even know what wing half of what i think is

i'd want:

-no privatization of power and water (and other things essential to society's function)
-a national bank and potentially a national telecommunication service
-immigration restricted to people with degrees or qualification in a trade
-no foreign aid (malthus was right)
-foreign people unable to purchase and own land from abroad, must be a citizen (housing market is absolutely fucked as is)
-free speech to be absolute, """hate""" speech laws to be scrapped completely

finally national encouragement of local media to produce local movies etcetc and to remove ourselves from the yolk of american cultural influence (no offense)

inb4 i'm a nazi

Hey newfag, nobody here gives a shit about Jewish or black identity.

There are plenty of those on leftypol who are idpol despite the 'i didnt stand for this' karl marx le gamergate communism meme

Sounds like Nazbol. SocDem could make you happy but there's a few things there that would be off the table.

maybe not here, but jews are a sacred cow on the left

Then go take it up with them, bucko.

yeah and get met with endless screeches of NAZI REEEEEE? sounds fun

Well I hope you're having fun making pointless posts against people who aren't here.

i'm just trying to make Holla Forums aware

have you considered muh freedoms?

Thank you, I am woke now.

kek


i agree with most of that. for me it's the influence of a certain group of chosen ones that concerns me

We're certainly aware of all forms of identity politics.

muh 500 gorillion

lol any mention of the jews here and you're told to go back to Holla Forums

I used to be hard-left but swung to the hard right lately. In my case, it was a matter of experiencing a lot of psychological trauma.
Eventually you get to a certain point where you see human nature as fundamentally irrational, with rationality being a flimsy construct on top of that to justify our caprice and help us feel good about ourselves.

It's a harsh world out there, and the only people I could consistently rely to stick up for me, even in the face of my rebellious teenage bullshit were my parents. Thus, I trust them and people who are similar to them (working class east-european catholic whites) more than those who are different. Thus, I'll feel more comfortable around an asian or an urkel black than some gangbanger or refugee. I don't go through my day consumed with ill will towards other groups, but if someone gets tribalistic and confrontational with me, I feel justified in getting tribalistic and confrontational right back at them.
I admit that view is ethnocentric and therefore irrational and based on gut feeling, but then since we're in the postmodern world where everything is relative, it's as good a stance to take as any other.
In the end, I still hate the parasitic global elite, but if communists can just fuck off a little bit, allow for some decentralization so people can freely associate with those they want to, and form little agrarian culturally homogenous nazbol fiefdoms outside of your metropolitan gay multiculti utopias, I wouldn't have as much animus towards them.

this is pretty much exactly how i feel too

Of course. Because we don't give a shit. We don't care about Jews or blacks or whites or anything as an identity.

so you are a retard then

then you're very naive.

No. We just don't subscribe to magical thinking. Take your voodoo anti-economics determinism to tumblr or reddit or Holla Forums.

it's hardly magical. there's plenty of research behind in group preferences and ethnocentrism

Yes. Just like there's plenty of research on schizophrenia and other mental disorders. These things are a reality insofar as they are actually believed.

Class relations, on the other hand, exist even if you ignore them. You can't just choose to identify as a rich person.

I don't deny class.

A negro will always be a negro, whether he's a wage earner or a factory owner, identity is inescapable and set in stone.

those quotes are some of the stupidest things i have ever read

is that why you are a basement NEET?

really made me think

hahahahhahaha oh wow

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