Is there any way to promote class consciousness on other boards without getting immediately outed as a gommie shill?
Is there any way to promote class consciousness on other boards without getting immediately outed as a gommie shill?
I try, which usually results in me getting banned.
Class is a spook, I don't get socialists and their obsession with class.
You need to leave
No I'm earnest, how is class not just an abstraction?
It's not that class isn't an abstraction, it's that abstractions can be useful in understanding the world.
How would you describe the system we have without using any abstractions? You strongly limit the amount of things you can understand when you refuse to use abstractions.
Not all abstractions are meaningless, i.e. identity.
Class is the consequence of a spook, with really annoying consequences to say the least, hence why we're trying to abolish it.
Maybe try posting Georg Lukács if it's a philosophy board.
Because it's determined by material conditions you dumb FUCK!
your big Other is a spook too
wew lad
No.
All right then. People in my country don't have class cosciousness, and it's because modern capitalism created material conditions which inhibit class identity (or worse: there is no actual proletariat anymore). You are suggesting then that we should not directly spread, but to address the material conditions first?
Because it's class consciousness which creates movements and therefore chance to change society/the system.
Detournement or whatever you spell it
Nope
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Because you'll finally be able to date that hot asian chick that likes you
replace class with group and you'll find that people are quite aware of their group.
Come off a centerist
this is where stirner memes fall apart
NUANCE MOTHERFUCKERS
Whenever you retards make these threads on other boards the OP image is a hammer and sickle and the post is some cringe worthy bullshit
true. they're probably redditors anyways
Dunno, try posting Stirner or Bookchin reaction pics, maybe someone will ask about it.
for practice.
and don't do this shit
hammer and sickle, "stalin did nothing wrong," and "read bookchin" are things for Holla Forums, not other sites
no
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I got banned from Holla Forums from posting a single Stirner image in the GG thread
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What's wrong with being outed as a commie shill. Seriously.
They will shut you down and not listen.
There are always other people reading the thread that you're not arguing with. It's like having a debate. The point isn't to convince the opponent, but to make the case to the audience.
But the audience will shut you down too in their mind. It's tribalism and confirmation bias. They will be more open if they dont know what the ideology is till they are fully sold on it.
This. If you mention socialism or post a hammer and sickle or some shit it's as if thier brain immediately shuts down
Why would they? Communism is a complete failiure
Der Ewige Mark.
I got banned for posting this in some other thread.
The best way is to just accelerate Holla Forums's internal divisions until they break apart. A lot of people are sick of the Holla Forums mods, and this can carry over to Holla Forums and other boards as well.
Class is not based on wealth, that is a liberal meme.
If they call you a shill just point out pic related
then don't do retarded shit like post a hammer and sickle instead of making a real argument
Just pretend to be an anarchists, they are universally liked unlike smelly commie scum
Hah, I saw that. You should know better, user.
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Stirnerfags pls go
Class isn't a spook you retard. Stop misusing Stirner so badly.
this
class isn't a spook
class consciousness is one tho
Relax man, you should learn not to take obvious bait.
agreed
class can't be a spook. it's physical.
having WAY less resources to live than a porky. Thats not a spook thats reality.
by not using marxist lingo
You're on an anonymous imageboard, class and identity don't fucking exist outside of Holla Forums and Holla Forums.
elaborate
On what?
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You could try to post graphs that illuminate the contradictions and transcient nature of capitalism, and pretend to be stupid.
Holla Forums shouldn't have any problems with talking about classes. You just need to stop mentioning marx. They think he's a meme.
I think perhaps you'd reach interesting conclusions if you put the manifesto down.
Same with them putting mein kampf down.
It's outdated thinking.
If you consider race - a new reality worse than class division emerges.
We're becoming a hideous caste abomination.
And there's little we can do about it. We can't mix them, that'd lower the Autism Level. We can't modify the lower ones, that's morally frowned upon.
So what can we do?
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Most boards don't like identity politics so insighting class, sexuality or gender warfare is frowned upon, seen as sjw tactics.
fuck off back to reddit with that bullshit.