Steam removes "The Key to Home" from store

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The only controversy here is that idiots expected something else to happen.

It got locked because of flagrant shitposting like yours.
reported.

spicy

the topic of censorship will always be allowed to be discussed and loli will always be allowed. However when someone spams a thread and when no one reports it, it just ruins the board and it just hassles all of us. I wanted someone to remake the thread, but it seems that isn't the answer, so therefore I unlocked the thread and took care of the situation. I'll be in the meta thread shortly.

What is going on.

Will you mods make up your mind already over which thread you're locking already, Jesus Christ.


Geez could it be the part where the "good" guy in the story is planting cameras in the little girls bathroom?

Raid of some sorts. Either way just talk about it in this thread

We're being raided and Mark isn't doing anything about it

Nevermind then

Whatever
Its taken care of

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What the fuck is this mess?

How about you stop responding to bait hu? Is that so hard to do?
Anyone responding to bait without a proper argument must be clearly falseflagging with the intention to further ruin the thread or to drag people into shitposting too. Both should be removed.

Please keep all meta here

agreed, holy shit.

Jesus fucking christ you are a special type of cancer aren't you?

Yeah, its kinda weird. I mean the game is a shit visual novel. A lot of false flagging.
You okay, dude?

I think there's a reason some anons are puzzled

Gaben busted in a CP raid when?

The sooner the better at this point, Valve used to be great, but now it lacks both leadership and direction, doesn't exactly help that people in valve are friends with Kotaku and Rocket Paper Shotgun

You'd think they'd have learned by now that banning a thing from release gets more attention than just letting yet another vn hit the steam store.

Yeah I'm sure everyone is gonna rush out to buy a VN about spying on little girls in the toilet because steam banned it. The only people who are gonna rally behind this title are pedos who were also going to be buying it anyway.

It could have been just another lackluster VN in a flooded market. Steam truly is cancer.

I can only wish.

I totally see that happening.

that would be amazing

Even assuming that, this debacle is going to get more pedophiles to buy it than a steam release ever could, simply because a vn release is not as much news as a vn being barred from release.

webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:wVsvaV-GFswJ:store.steampowered.com/app/710370?l=koreana &cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

The game is about a middle school teacher who is a lolicon that puts cameras in the girls' bathroom to spy on them. The game is rated all ages only in Nippon because it contains no "explicit images". That is, no nipples, no genetalia, and no violence. The game is made to appeal to lolicons. That much is evident from the images in the google webcache above, and the premise of the game. Nobody but lolicons would buy this game seriously considering the material in its descriptions and its promotional images. The intended audience is not in question, and those saying it's not lewd and that it is all ages are arguing in ignorance or bad faith. Whether or not you or anyone else on this board considers attraction to 2D lolis to be pedo is not part of the equation. If Valve believes it's associated with pedophilia, which loli heavily is for obvious reasons, and does not want to host that sort of content, it's their decision. There are two problems here. Firstly, Valve has too much of a monopoly. Secondly, their hypocrisy in continuing to host Monobeno while removing this. The latter should be reported to them, which will most likely result in Monobeno's removal as well.

Steam already has several watchdogs of the law on their ass, distributing pedobait would effectively be suicide.

Then inform them of the fact that they distribute Monobeno.

Please don't. I have been looking forward to a translation of that for a long time now.

For what? Gambling? I can only wish Valve fucks up, but there's literally no fucking reason for them to cover their asses so much. They are either paranoid or there's an actual good reason for doing do. But then again, faggots even in this site can't tell the difference from CP and lolicon, so they usually report lolicon as CP, either as a joke or serious.

That's fucking retarded. Are you telling me that cute girls are and will always be intended to fucking pedos? Well, shit, no shit dolls look so fucking horrible, since if you try to make them appealing people will accuse you of making pedobait.

What the fuck do you honestly expect though?

And advertising it for free isn't?
Remember that if this vn hadn't been barred from steam, this thread would not exist to be viewed by both the 2770 unique IPs that have posted here in the last 72 hours, but also however many people have just been lurking here for those 72 hours.
How many people would have noticed and cared about this vn if the only sign it existed was a spot in the "upcoming" and "all new releases" sections of the steam store, of which only the former even has a real presence on the front page?
Low-budget games and vns release on steam all the time, a vn release is not news, and as such a quiet release would do far more to keep the game from circulation than banning it ever could, especially if the devs already have a site they can digitally distribute the game through.

They're also hypocritical for pandering to murderers with all the killing sims on Steam. fuck off goon

Its in Chinese.

yeah but the people who are behind the chinese translations also do english translations. It's an inevitability if it sells well in chinkland

monkeyspaw.jpg

Openly banning the game is two-fold; you can't really accuse Valve of directly advertising the game if they ban it because giving the game free advertising wasn't their intention, if nothing else they're cleaning their hands of any direct responsibility for the product being sold (as it's not being sold through their own platform). Even more people will probably buy the game now because of this, but that's not what matters to Valve; what matters is the money.

It's absolutely fucking stupid to think this is a matter of moral grandstanding; they're doing this because openly selling pedobait on Steam would look extremely bad for their bottom line (i.e. their money). It's the same reason you can't link to Uncensored patches for VNs anymore - it's not to protect the kids from seeing tits but because they risk a lawsuit for distributing what is ostensibly porn.

Where you do you think you are?

So much for having your cake and eating it too

Has any anons addressed the fact that PubG is a top seller right now on Steam, bigger then dota2/csgo? and this game is made by China? Maybe Valve is butthurt.

It's called the Streisand Effect. It wasn't Valve's intention to promote the game by banning it, but to save themselves the headache of having to deal with people screeching about pedo games. This whole controversy is beyond stupid, especially by the people that are clutching their pearls because muh censorship. How fucking unhinged do you need to be to believe this was going to end any other way?

On the other hand, if this was the plan by the people doing the English release, they had a stroke of genius and I'd reward whoever came up with it.

It's not censorship if Steam declines to sell a game. Unless you think for some reason that the ability to profit from any and all avenues is integral to the freedom of expression.

Except they didn't decline to sell it at first.

The irony is that people need to know the thing exists before they can raise a stink about it and thus effect the bottom line.
Who would notice if the vn released?
Who would care about yet another vn on steam?
You do not keep this sort of thing from people by banning it's distribution through a particular channel, no matter how large that channel is.
This is the age of the magnet and crowbar, the only place to feasibly hide a needle is in a stack of needles.

Damn, its like a child throwing a tantrum

A decision to engage in a business practice does not imply it will continue in perpetuity. Or should Sears still be selling foot-pedalled sewing machines through their mail order catalog, because they did 100 years ago?

This ain't just cute girls doing cute things mate.


Wew.
Firstly, you're arguing against a point which I did not make, that attraction to lolicon and to 3DPD children are the same thing, you strawmanning faggot. Secondly, you failed to even knock down the strawman you set up, because murder is an action and pedophilia is an attraction.

Steam is going to be bought out by China in 5 years.

Have you considered the fact this site might not be for you?

How can they be bought out when they're not a publicly traded company?

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(((Someone))) will find a way.

Private companies can also be bought and sold, you know.

Are you okay?

Only if Gaben develops a taste for dogs and decides to sell it for a lifetime supply.

Cuckchanners are never okay.

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Then start reporting as well

I mean, its fucking Monday, what the fuck is going on.

Their intention is irrelevant, and as so, the fact remains, the product is famous now because of them. 10 years could have gone by and no one could have gave a single shit about a loli game existing on steam, specially one with no fucking lewd content.
You can say the same about shit like gore and killing, in fact, that was a common argument 20 years ago against video games in general. There are no laws against tits that would warrant you a lawsuit, likewise there are no laws against gore or lolicon, specially in this very niche format.

There's no lewd content and the dialogue is tame at best.
That explains a lot.

These anti loli shitposts are cuckchan posts.
They've been happening for years there whenever shit like this happens.
VGAs happened and we got a ton of crossposters, now we are here.
Read the filename you idiot

Well I am getting a large pepporni pizza and a shitty sugary drink for this bullshit cause I got two days off after tonight mother fuckers.

Are you people really surprised? This is a market owned privately by Valve, they are under no legal obligation to host your game of choice regardless of its content. It's the fucking Apple Store for PC games. I don't support censorship, but if you expected to put your game on Valve's market because you are "entitled to an income" or something you are a fucking idiot and should be laughed at. There are many options for distributing games today, especially PC games that have a niche market (which means you can afford to host it on a cheaper server because less people will download it). This is a non-issue, lolicon dude makes lolicon game and giant corporation gets the sweats over their image which nobody would ever give a fuck about anyway unless they made a big deal about it to begin with. Just pretend Valve is Apple and I promise you'll never be surprised again.

Nigga, you expect me to read? pffffffff

As an aside, this is why rules forcing you to articulate like a human being are worth having. No bias, no implication of sides chosen. Saying something asinine and useless like "lmao pedofags btfo" would get you banned not for the meaning, but for typing like a chimp.

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Nothing lewd going on here.

Gotta protect those virtual girls!

They always do this to shut down loli threads. Mark's incompetence usually lets it happen too.

That really depends on where you live. Not everyone is lucky enough to be an Americlap.

These come off as actual child raping pedos trying to paint any argument for removing the game from steam as irrational.

Wouldn't you want to check out if your students are properly potty trained if you were a teacher?

Thing is, valve could have easily accomplished the goals of both profit and censorship by allowing the vn to be released to practically zero fanfare.
This shit isn't moralfaggotry or profiteering, it's moralfaggotry theatre dressed up as profit concerns.
Valve has failed in both censoring the game, making a profit off of it, and not losing credibility among proponents of free expression/speech, and thus I am mad.

Yeah, nothing lewd going on. I don't see a nipple or a pussy, and most of the "action" is in written form. It's like trying to ban a text book.

Nobody should care about you if you're not american in the first place.

It's actually neither. They just wanted to avoid the blatantly obvious shitstorm that would descend upon them if they had allowed the product to be sold.

The funniest part is that the people who complain the loudest about loli are more than likely pedophiles themselves, with at least 2 individual examples of this happening on twitter, and the constant normalization of actual, real life pedophilia by the leftist media who abhors all things anime, but especially loli.

Yep, just like my image here. No explicit nudity or text. Not in the slightest bit lewd.

good taste

And I guess vidya makes you a murderer as well. Go to bed Thompson, it was bullshit in the 90s and it's bullshit in the 2010s.

Try typing like a human for once in your life, then kill yourself.

I think the only problem here is that valve has too big of an monopoly atm so these other sites wouldn't make these dudes as much money compared to steam. Despite thinking this is "game" sounds kinda retarded I can get why the devs want this on steam in the US, its because almost everyone uses steam and nothing else. Do you expect normalfag pedoph, oh sorry I meant "lolicons", to use these alternate services? Maybe if they are that into VN's that they have to but I really don't think half the people that would buy this "game" would do that unless they have been counting the days till an English translation.

Ironically shitposting your argument shows you don't have any faith in it.
And if you don't believe your own words why should anyone else?

Murder is an action, not an attraction.

Which is why you have the "no fanfare"
Nobody would notice the release of this vn because it would be drowned out in the releases of other vns and games.
A shitstorm over a thing can only happen with widespread awareness of that thing, which tends to happen when a pattern is broken, such as the pattern of vns being released on steam to little fanfare.
Also, look at where all this shitstorm paranoia has landed us: right in the middle of a fucking shitstorm

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Better yet when will pedos stop crying about being victimjs all the time. You have a shitty fetish and you'r gonna be mocked about it, just like furfags.
I guess dogs can be attractive since some people wanna fuck dogs

That's not even the point of the VN, it's the setting.
Shit argument, mate. There's people attracted to literal shit. That being said, the only way to combat pedo witch hunts is with actual facts and moderation. Sadly people can't keep their heads cold and Mark is an incompetent fag.

Pretty much. That pic can mean anything, really.
Probably just band-wagoners that don't even give a shit. Also, your dialect is garbage.

Normalfags, go home. You are sucking too much republicuck dick.

Oh you young, naive child.

You're an idiot.

Because people like you are too stupid to figure out this was not going to end any other way.

Then cuckchan is more your speed. Fuck off.

Well I am going to work.

Until somebody pointed it out, which they obviously did in order to get it removed in the first place. What do you think would happen if Valve didn't remove it after a concerned consumer goon reported it? The goon would then spread it's existence to his goon buddies and there would be half a dozen shitpieces written about how Steam is selling pedobait. I'm surprised this hasn't happened with Monobeno yet, which I can only attribute to it being in Chinese.

ITT: Goons raiding trying to crack consensus "I think that unrealistic drawings that look nowhere near real people are pedophilia" 2D is not 3D, if you are not from their raid and still want to defend the imaginary rights of darwings you should go back to >>>/cuckchan/

I don't even think it's that. It's just anons addicted to shitposting, and other anons who can't not take the bait. This is the "culture" of nu-neo-Holla Forums.

Is there any way to still get the game?

Wait I thought that's what they banned.

Yeah nothing to do with the Holla Forums UID's spiking after the first thread that was deleted was posted, we are still well over 200 UID'S the usual

There are plenty of goons here, but see It doesn't matter what you or I think about the distinction between 2D and 3D concerning attraction. Regadless, this is aimed at lolicons and lolicon is heavily associated with pedophilia. Valve doesn't want something aimed at lolicons and whether they conflate lolicons and pedos is besides the point.

Not yet read the OP

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I love you.

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keep up the good work

By reporting it. The game did not broke any rule, since the game isn't explicit in sexual content. If that's the case, they would start pulling games based on sexual implications, and end up with half their library.
And instead you have an angry mob of lolicons. Not like those fucking goon articles are any more influential than your average shitposter.

But that's exactly what you're doing, retard.

WHY HURT DOG

DOG DID NOTHING WRONG

I agree with you, that's why I said in my first post that it wouldn't really impact their image. However, executives are retarded, although this is exactly the kind of thing that being a private company (as Valve is, unlike Apple) should prevent. Shareholders are even more retarded because executives are at least familiar with market trends in their industry of choice; shareholders are rich assholes who usually know next to nothing about the industry they're investing in, in fact most of the time they're just doing it because yet another asshole they paid told them it was a good idea.
Having said all of this, given Valve's recent track record and extremely convenient "at-will termination" Steam contract that it builds with the devs and publishers, it shouldn't be surprising in the least that this would happen. Specialty stores for ero games and risque and niche VNs exist for this very reason. If anyone, you should be mad at the dev for even trying this; he is probably just attention whoring.

Why would you do this to us user?

As always, half-assed job. Some legit posts were deleted along the shitpost.

I think lolicons hold much less influence.


>>whether they conflate lolicons and pedos is besides the point
>But that's exactly what you're doing, retard.
Reading comprehension.


I pulled them from the google cache here as thanks to Valve, images from the game are scarce.

Not cakejew, but be sure to report the human scum

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I'm not mad at anyone really, other than leftists for being hypocritical pieces of shit that are fine rubbing their filth in everyone's faces (like that VN about faggot "daddies") but throw a fit when someone else does the same.

I call it extremely effective marketing.

Actually, the subhumans killed the dog because it was blind and going crazy because it could no longer see. Since they live in a 3rd world country where vets were replaced with restaurants that was the most humane thing they really could do with it. If you think about it they could have done much more horrible things to the dog to kill it than 3-5 sharp blows to the skull. It's the sad reality, unfortunately.

I've been using image boards since /l/ was an official board and human gore has never bothered me but I can't fucking deal with dog gore

can't even play video games with dogs that get hurt in them


EVEN LASSIE GOT TO GO OUT FAST WITH A SHOTGUN TO THE HEAD

THERE IS NO REASON TO BEAT A DOG TO DEATH

Bumping my own question.

Bullets cost money. The shovel was already there.

I imagine despite the "controversy" it's actually not nearly as good as other loli VNs. I've never heard of this shit, anyway. Just go replay the Princess Maker games.

Get the fuck out of my hobby

wew?

DOG IS WORTH ITS WEIGHT IN BOOLETS

You're probably right. Thanks for saving my time.

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If he had a real point I might have appreciated it more. But to me he just looks dumb if he's trying to make a statement about something that no sane business owner would back him on (control of his own brand image). I guess there is the slim chance that he is just an extreme autist who thought this might fly on Steam.

I'm not saying it's not sad but it's reality.

Fucking killyourself. piracy


Fixed.

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It's still retarded, since it accomplishes none of their stated goals.
The alleged pedophiles still get their vn, valve not only loses the potential profit from the game's sales, but will also suffer backlash from anti-censorship parties and a loss of trust from other devs.
At least if they just let it slide they'd have had a chance to not get so thoroughly screwed.

Hahaha how are two dimensional drawings actually children they're only lines nigga hahaha just turn away from the screen. Where's Tyler The Creator when you need him to weigh in on internet shit?

Even though shad's art sucks, at least he fights back against this shit.

thanks for correcting my deleted post. eat your cake, kike

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He could have painted a few more of them human to achieve maximum butthurt.

This is based on existing characters, who were male.

Shad is from the old guard before the internet was this fucked along with the Newgrounds guy.
They're all based
Shads art and fetishes are still shit tier though

Implying that you wouldn't be her prom date you ugly sack of shit.

We all have our dark fantasies, but if we don't have a healthy outlet for it (video games) it can end up becoming too much of a mental/emotional burden to keep it in

FANTASY IS NOT REALITY

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Yes, people would rather fuck someone who looks like a little girl but isn't mentally, than someone who looks like they're 80. Smooth skin >wrinkly is an objective fact that doesn't make you a pedo.
Are those lolis mentally challenged?

Oh, I'm not disagreeing that it's effective, just saying it's not the type of marketing that I personally, as a shithead who posts unsolicited opinions on video games and Israel on the Internet, would appreciate.

STOP

casual

I enjoy some of Shad's art.

Why are Australians such terrible people?

I don't really mind it. This is the kind of thing that people are thinking about when they say 'There is no such thing as bad publicity'. It's manipulative, sure, but leftists exist to be brutalized and exploited for everyone's fun and profit.

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I really never understood how that Toddlers and Tiaras type shit continues to fly. I sincerely blame the Jews on that one. Not only does it ruin the childrens' childhood by the virtue of constantly caring about these shows, the shows themselves are degenerate as fuck. I get the willies every single time I see a 50 year old plus man or woman judge a 6 year old girl on beauty.

Well, you think wrong. Taking seriously "video game journalism" is retarded, not even companies do so. Youtubers are far more influential, even when they come up with unpopular opinions. See: John Tron.

You're not a human anymore, user.

so do I but its very rare of him to actually pull off a quality piece

Mild interest in sauce.

I'm not taking them seriously, but they have way more presence than outspoken lolicons.

Because moralfags focus their energy on stopping 2D girls being objectified rather than 3D girls.

I doubt this is as much a leftist move as a leftist-phobic move.
Why else would valve forgo any amount of profit and what goodwill they have from anti-censorship folks than out of fear of leftist backlash?
Let's not forget that leftists are some of the most dox-happy alleged people on the internet, and their behavior in face-to-face interaction is hardly pleasant.

It's a mob nonetheless. You don't have to be outspoken about something to make a mob effective. It's pretty much like the loli hate band-wagon.

This isn't the end is it?

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It's not even because they fear the left's reaction, but simply because the vast majority of the Western public would not take kindly to this.

I'm well aware they're subhuman scum, but Valve was likely to do this with or without the hysteria. Some things are more trouble than they are worth.

Captcha says I'm not a robot.

Get this retarded xeno outta here.

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One of us is not the human, user.

This sounds like red flag number 2.

Red flag number 1 was when someone internally wanted to stop massive waves of negative reviews from affecting game scores on Steam, like in protest to banning mods in GTA V, or some game adding loot crates, or having some major update that ruins the game. They ended up implementing the review graph instead so ultimately it turned out fine, but there is something fishy going on behind the scenes for sure.

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its a long shot but link?

This is your brain on utilitarianism.

I swear to God this better be fucking bait.

Idolmaster

This thread is rife with it. It's hard to tell.

Boku no Bibletoads: Guts no Qwaiser

Jojo

Even when I hadn't read Boku no Pico years back, I knew what it was. Fucking newfags, when will they learn?

Do we have an image rip of this?

I, too, would appreciate sauce

exhentai.org/g/1149965/a126f09baa/

Go and be spoonfed, lazies.

Pedophilia and rape are quintissential in Japanese culture. That's a pretty racist move from Valve, someone should contact Buzzfeed.

Japan isn't Hollywood though

Stop being vauge, faggot, and say what is on your mind. People can still "review bomb" games but now it comes with a warning and a graph.

You mean it's not Israel.

They made more changes after that.
nichegamer.com/2017/11/22/valve-updated-steam-reviews-to-prevent-bots-from-affecting-game-pages/

I'm disappointed, but not surprised. There's a long way to go until 2D loli is socially acceptable, until then all we can do is keep fapping in private while trying to convince people.

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Part of that is getting loli games on stores like Steam, moron.

I kind of get it - I mean, we have Miss America/Universe pageants. So these little girls beauty contests are like a kid's version of a grown-up competition. Sort of like how grown men compete in stock car racing, with a children's equivalent being a soap-box derby.

Then, somewhere along the line, it stopped becoming just a light-hearted kid's competition and became deadly serious cut-throat mothers stabbing each other in the back and abusing their own children for the sake of pleasing a panel of pedophiles just for the satisfaction of "I'm prettier than all you skanky bitches" by proxy of their daughters.

It's long, long ago abandoned the innocent spirit in which it was conceived and become one of the worlds most socially open and accepted forms in institutionalized child abuse.

Steam is flooded by normalfags. Why would anyone with two brain cells to rub together go there for opinions on games?

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I'm fine with masturbating alone in a dark room over a laptop, I don't need to take my fetishes public. I'm not a fucking furry.

You just answered your own question.


Well, yeah. I'm just saying we clearly haven't reached that point yet. Valve isn't gonna sell this sort of thing until the profit outweighs the controversy. We have to convince the masses first.

store.steampowered.com/app/349300/Littlewitch_Romanesque_Editio_Regia/

You didn't answer the question, though. How the fuck didn't someone put two and two together and shut that shit down?


When we are the only fucks that apparently see how wrong this is you know society is fucked. When did we become the arbiters of morality?

this.

When actual pedos only have to virtue signal about lolis to hide their true nature.

OPPAH

Children's beauty pagents have been a thing since the 20's, and were usually just goofy side shows during parades and fairs. They didn't become a nationally organized thing until the 1960's, and even then, it was more of a goofy children's contest used more for it's commercial potential than taking itself too seriously as a competition in the beginning.

Maybe it was never completely innocent, but it was a FAR cry from what they are now.

Money

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The people involved in running the damn show are so bitchy that nobody wants to deal with their shit.

Bots are shit though. They ruin everything. Thousands of players giving a negative review when appropriate is great, one kid with mommy's credit card buying bot spam isn't helpful to anyone, his opinion is worthless.

He's got a point though. All the leftists that screech about 2D lolis seem to have no problems with beauty pageants, Paki rape and grooming gangs, child brides from Syria, rampant pedophilia within Hollywood and the establishment or their own parties pushing that kind of shit since at least a 100 years.

Stay classy Holla Forums

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the point was not about the game numbnuts

The posting style of these faggots is exactly the same as the faggots who defended Alisson Rape, its incredible really.

Communists hate children since they are children, that's why they enjoy hurting and raping them. Better off just hanging them all.

That's what societies used to do back when sanity was still valued.

Jesus fucking Christ. This shit is why I will be perfectly content to die a NEET.

You are the type of retard that ensures retard living assistance will never stop.

Alright, what point did I allegedly miss?

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Holla Forums never talks about videogames.

The point was about steam removing it, not about the game itself.

2D = 3D you fucking pedo don't you dare pretend thats not the case here, you're all pedophile degenerates even though I masturbate to real porn where real women literally choke on dicks.

store.steampowered.com/app/758090/Monobeno/

Well, the weren't wrong. Good riddance.

I skimmed the thread and most of it, is what I originally posted, there hasn't been much direct talk about the game and why it was removed.

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But that wasn't your original complaint.

Am I suppose to assume there is something wrong here besides the game itself?

You are supposed to be outraged or otherwise y * * ***n obviously, get with the hivemind.

DELETE THIS NOW

th-thanks anyway

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Wow haha, so based

I never praised anyone?

But I did

Are you telling the feminist pedo was based?

No, the devs are clearly based for including that in their game :)))))

no you won't

At least now I can appreciate woman no matter the bust. Is this what it means to grow up? Tit jobs aren't even that great. It just looks good in porn.

Should've held on for your magic powers user.

Oy vey

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No shit, you are a jew. I would have expected shotacon to be more up your alley, y'know with all the foreskin munching and stuff.

Is that what you did? What's it like to have powers?

This tbh.

Yet these retards will make the same argument without any trace of irony.
Pedofags get the gas.

Looking at the thread the only reason this is relevant and anyone here would care is because it has lolis in it and lolifags are getting triggered over fucking nothing. What a shit topic and what a shit thread.

A better comparison would be to furries. Some of them are sick fucks that want to dick the real life counterpart, but most of them are content with their drawings.

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nigger unless there is some race of cat people the world has been hiding from me, there is no real life counterpart.

Is there a name for that subtle-yet-obvious false flag type of post where they pretend to agree with you but implies that you're [buzzword insult]? Something like a straw man but not a straw man.

What gets me pissed off at this isn't that this got taken down, because honestly I don't give two shits what people fap to as long as real people aren't involved. What actually irks me is that Valve are not applying their standards consistently and are changing their fucking regulations on a goddamn will, and seemingly only to apply their rules when faced with mass flagging/complaint campaigns even though EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAME ON THE STORE GOES THROUGH VALVE'S APPROVAL. Seriously how the fuck is Monobeno, a lolicon VN that is explicit from day one, still up while The Key to Home which is SFW and always was SFW and technically "All ages" gets removed?
Also holy fucking shit the goons are in full fucking force in this thread. For the record I don't think either ought to be taken down, cause free market and that jazz, but if Valve is gonna be doing crap like this they might as well be consistent.

Only because they know their actions are socially unaccepted/outlawed.
If furries could, they would be marrying their dogs, cats and whatever other animal they could fuck.

Same goes for pedofags.

This is a fucking meme. I've never met a person who wouldn't prefer larger breasts. At most I get is that its not a defining factor but they would still like them larger.

I want to part her hair and cum on her giant forehead.

Got a source?

Read the fucking filename faggot.

The devs made the achievements I assume?

Yes

Thats where you wrong kiddo

If you act like a goon then you're a goon.

No. By this logic vampires are real because people dress up as them on halloween.

Loli is pedophilic in nature. Loli is free speech. Mother daughter milf loli yuri is top tier. These are truths.

What is acting like a goon? Out of curiosity, totally not a jew.

The alternative is you have issues distinguishing fiction from reality, which implies schizophrenia.

I'm talking about the furries that want to fuck dogs. Don't make me post the webm.

Most of them would quickly realize that animals are nothing like the degenerate animal people they base their lives around. The rest are even more fucked in the head than the others.

tells me absolutely fucking nothing my dude

pick one

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Thinking loli is pedo for one thing, you goon.

Last time I checked you are a goon when you get triggered by anime as a whole and think its all pedoshit even the oppai stuff. Not if you think that loli specifically is pedo.

That's zoophilia. It's a different fetish.

Lolicon is a slippery slope

Then almost everyone on this thread is using the term wrongfully.

Well I'm not spoonfeeding you anymore than I already have you faggot.


Nice strawman.

That still doesn't mean peoples that fap to lolis aren't pedo though. Pedophiles are sexual attraction to little children, a drawing of a little girl doesn't make you a pedo but getting a boner from it makes you one.

>hurr durr loli isn't pedo because it's just drawings of little girls in sexual situations!

Here is an image of "2D men", one fucking the other in the ass with his penis and the other masturbating his penis while being assfucked.

Is it gay if you masturbate to this?
If you say yes and you still think loli isn't pedo, you're a fucking hypocrite

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Nigger if you think unrealistic drawings that look nowhere near real people are pedophilia you deserve the bullet

It's different

Fuck off Goon.

Liking loli is pedo just like liking bara makes you a fucking faggot. I don't understand what's complicated about this. Whether or not it's real doesn't matter. It's a sexual attraction to the subject matter.

Then why do so many curries tend to fuck animal. Also underage as well but that has to with the gay.

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What if you're a woman that faps to this?
Does that make the woman gay?

Remember Yohjo simulator? The game that was approved and released and then removed by Valve because of bad media PR? It's like that.

If thats what turn them on then thats what turn them on.

How?

A blurry line.


Cause it can be a slippery slope. And why are so many fags as well? No one knows.

ITS DRAWN AHAHAHA IM NOT GAY HAHAHA NOPE
t. closeted pedofag

"goon" lmao, its literally are paranoid as Holla Forums shouting "JIDF, /int/, Holla Forums, X boogeyman of the week"

also if you jack off to that image your a faggot who likes dick just as if you jack off to loli your a pedo who wants to fuck kids, tell yourself whatever you need to sleep at night but stay the fuck away from schools freak

Exactly, this isn't pedophilic in nature at all

And words on a page are not the same thing as a real child either, but erotic fiction with prebuscent children as the subject matter is pedophilia.

look at his post history, hes false flagging

I see titties and that's a weird angle. I'm betting on shortstack here.

I suppose if would be depending on who she identifies as.

If she identifies with the top, she is most liking a penis envy turbo dike.
IF she identifies with the bottom, she is just hunger for some dick.

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One can also identify as a voyeur.

From my arguments with furfags, they usually say that they think of whatever they're jerking off to as being sapient so it's totally OK. Also, IDs.

I'm just having a giggle, mate.

This.

I'm going to go jerk off to lolis and there's nothing you Goons can do about it.

that's cool, just accept you're a pedo.

Jerk it to whatever you want. You're still a pedo.

What are you gonna do, gas me?

Where is the loli? All I see is pettanko.

It's the same as comparing loli to pedophilia. They're both similar to the thing in real life, but have differences to make them more bearable. Children are loud, obnoxious and shit themselves, whereas lolis are cute midgets that some people want to bury their dick in. I'm not saying it isn't degenerate, but most people aren't going to start fucking kids because of it.

Stop using that argument, it's dumb. The only relevant point is that it's not real. It's just a drawing. Even if it is pedophilic to like it, it doesn't fucking matter because it's all in your head.
There is no other argument for or against 2D loli worth considering.

This. Also stop acting like triggered furfags when people tell you that.

IM HEALTHY AT ANY SIZE AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CIS WHITE MALES CAN DO ABOUT IT
K, tumblr.

dude, goons want you to jerk it to that impotent shit.

Read about that thing called gray, it's between black and white.

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Oops, maybe I should have spoilered that. Are nipples too much for Mark?

Alright, I'll follow the opinion of some random goon on an ancap post-modernist esoteric kekic hitlerist pinochet-esque pre-Chilean paleolibertarian knitting form.

faggot I like loli.


An anthropomorphic creature is a wholly different object than an animal. A loli is an idealized child.

The slippery slope is in acting as thought crime agents and being an enabler of the fiction police.

You're right. Those animu grills are totally pubescent, they just aren't well endowed.


Completely true. An attraction to the idealized concept of fucking prebuscent children is still an attraction to fucking prebuscent children though. It's still pedo, but the distinction must be made that these perverts are generally not a danger to society.

If it doesn't matter why do you always cry all the way to cake kike every time?

Yes I am, you are retarded.

You are one dumb cunt m8

Or one might not identify at all and just find the concept arousing. My point is it quite frankly doesn't matter because it isn't fucking real. Hell, I'm into tentacles and monster girls, but I'd probably shit myself if I ever encounter either in reality.

Nah, you're just a beta male.

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Exactly, us alphas at Holla Forums would fuck the shit out of a monstergirl

Did Valve forget about Hatred and the slander it got because you were playing as an edgy faggot who wanted to take his vengeance by killing innocent people and people defended it because "Killing is not optional like GTA, it's mandatory."

Damn straight we would.

Thanks for the promotion user. It's the second time this thread I've gotten one.


Got a giggle outta me.

(heiled)


They're similar. One is a child, and the other is a idealized concept of child with deformed body structure for masturbatory purposes.

I love how faggots are posting larger flat girls instead of some of the smallest loli stuff with actual small proportionate bodies.

Dunno, but this would be pretty freaky to see in real life.

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You faggots are blurring the line for the loli bodytype just for the sake of srawmen at this point. There is almost no arguing with you retards.

Now this is more up my alley, I prefer the sweet line between loli and toddlercon though.

Small oni's!

A furry is an idealized animal. It has human anatomy and mental capacity, panders to whatever fetish you want and comes in any color your mind can comprehend. A grizzly bear is almost always shit brown, has incompatible sexual organs, will never understand what you're saying and will most likely kill you.

What if you don't want to have sex with a loli but want to be crammed up insider her uterus?

I'd fuck it. She's just a quiet shy girl that wants to have cuddle sex.


? The upper body is loli, the lower is not. It's leggy loli. What complicated about that, and what strawmen am I trying to support with it?


A man of taste.

It honestly depends on if the drawing is realistic enough. If you fap to realistic depictions of children and the idea of children, then you are really just a pedo. If you are fapping to an anime girl that looks like a petite teenage girl with small breasts and the only thing indicating her "youth" is the shape of her head and eyes (which is often made to look "younger" even on "of age" anime girls just by the moe style alone), then you probably just like short moe girls, unless you also fap to the realistic 3dpd depictions of children.

Take this example: If you fap to a drawing of a girl, then somebody informs you "in chapter 28 of the manga it's revealed she has a penis :^)", then are you now retroactively gay? No, because it's a drawing of a girl. If you knew 'she' had a penis, or if the drawing showed male bone structure or a bulge that implied a dick, would you still have fapped to it? If so, you might be gay, or you might just watch too much fucking jewish porn.

If you fap to "girls" that are just drawings of men with a vagina, be it cuntboys or some other degenerate shit, you are still probably fucking gay. Because you are fapping to a man with the possibility of avoiding poopdick. Once again, gas yourself or cut out the porn. If you are into "toddlercon," then you are almost certainly a pedophile.

But this really has nothing to do with fucking video games.

I am into toddlercon and I find real children disgusting.

So basically you want to ignore that loli is a body type and claim anything without tits is a loli. I bet you think tatsumaki from opm is a loli despite just as curvy or even more so than some adult women when she is just a short adult.

FAGGOT SHIT

Your dick is going in the bagina. Pretty sure that's sexu.


It's not just her lack of tits though. Look at the proportions of the upper body.

Her upper body is like a normal adult woman minus the tits. Even her muscle structure is well formed if you look at her amazing drawings in the manga indicating an adult.

That's pettanko, not loli.
Only if you still get off to it. This has nothing to do with it being a drawing or not. You could use the exact same argument for not knowing a tranny that is biologically female had a dick.


Are you shitposting m8?

So, then, if a loli eats me - then technically that's still a blowjob because my dick is still going in her mouth and I'll be depositing a load of cum in her stomach.

Glad we got that cleared up. I was confused there for a moment.

Well, I did say almost. But all the toddlercon shit I've seen was shit posted on various boards that was specifically fetishizing the fact that the girl is way too young. I assume the majority is like that, but that's just a guess considering the name and what I've already seen. I don't know you obviously, but I also can't just believe someone right away when they say "I enjoy toddlercon but it's not because they're toddlers."

There's also the fact that 2d girls/women are better than the average 3d counterpart personality and behavior wise because they're generally written by men, which means they are usually feminine without acting irrationally, retarded, bitchy, etc. In the case of loli, they are bound to be more pure, more intelligent or curious or understanding, that sort of thing, instead of a gross whiny little shit. It's not like nobody has noticed that, what with the 3d pig disgusting meme.

Exactly. Now you're getting it.

Was there ever any chance of this thread being not shit?

If I saw that without context I would think that the artist is shit at proportions not that's a loli.

Well NO SHIT, why would you see it on a car enthusiasts board?

Yes.


Then you have a weird definition of loli if that doesn't look like a loli to you.
Doesn't matter whether it's stylized. It's an idealization of the concept of fucking children. The concept of fucking children is important to the fetish, whether it's about the body type, or the state of mind of the animu grill that has it. Both are fetishized in lolicon hentai because that's the idealized concept people are getting off to in hentai. An attraction to prebuscence in girls.


The same reason furshit is posted here.

This thread is complete chaos, it's time to get scientific in this bitch.

In order to have this conversation we need to first establish some kind of axiom for what constitutes a "loli". there are many different flavors of 'small' body type - while all children are small, not all small figures are children. This may come off as splitting hairs but hear me out on this.


Which of these is a "loli"? Where do you draw the line?

The other important distinctions are realism and ideation. explains this pretty well.

If it's an incredibly realistic depiction of a human being, then yeah, that's weird. But cartoons are stylized by nature and do not necessarily reflect reality in any way. Look at my third image - is it an old man or a little girl? Or could it possibly depict an alien?

The point is that none of those are true because cartoons communicate ideas. The idea is what you're fapping to, and if the idea is kids, then you're a pedo.

Why? The only reason to do that is if you're going to treat that category differently from any other 2D stuff. Is there a reason to?

Did you ever figure out the source :^).

I'm saying that at this point you are going
but with lolis and adult bodies

That's clearly a smiley face, dum dum.

I dunno… there seems to be some crossover potential there.

Forget all of this loli shit. We all know what we really want.

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So wait… Steam is okay with a Columbine shooting style game like Hatred, but they're against a pedo game like this? Wow….they truly want to piss off their own demographic Holla Forums-bearded-fat ugly-incel-MGTOW-pedophiles.

Isn't the real topic "Does fiction affect peoples personalities and actions?" Almost all school shooters loved to play games where you shot people with guns, does that mean that the games made them do it? If someone plays GTA, does that mean that if they play it long enough it will make them steal cars in broad daylight? If someone plays rape games, does that mean that will make them rape people?

No. Not really.

Is that Gaybe Newell?

ACKSHUALLY

Not really, I've rarely been tricked when looking at for instance cosplay dumps, and the ones that passed were Asian (different race + soy + makeup). You can almost always tell.
Fair enough, but I've seen some shit labeled loli that's still not "too far gone" or anything.


Topkek. I'm not normalfag enough for that, sadly. I meant on /a/, /jp/, and even /loli/ itself. Two normal weeb boards and then /loli/ - which I realize probably attracts plenty of pedos and can't really help that.


Wasted opportunity.
This, really. It's about if you're seeking out specifically children (not just "loli") and get off to the idea of sex with children. Fapping to Rin from Kodomo no Jikan doesn't make you a pedo necessarily, judging by the way she's drawn, but if you fap to the idea of fucking a 9 year old student, you are fucking pedo scum.

is mildly probable

Guess I am scum :^)

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This is true, and I agree. It doesn't hurt anybody and shouldn't be banned the way CP is, but what someone faps to does indicate what they're attracted to. I'm simply arguing that people can and do like loli without being pedophiles, even though pedophiles also can like loli (if they aren't full anti-anime like goons). CP should stay illegal for the purpose of preventing a market for hardcore abusive videos, regardless of whether that shit is common or not. If some kike sees that a bunch of sick fucks online are watching young camgirls, then he's bound to have Tyrone rape a poor little girl for the money. Considering they probably already abuse girls themselves

This game is anti-pedo

Which one? The one by the artist who has traced ## in the past?

There's also the fact that child sexual abuse/exploitation is a prerequisite for actual CP, while all it takes to produce loli is sufficient imagination.

lolicons are a form pedo much how fursuit shit, liking drawings of anthropormphic animals, and liking "feral" drawings are all forms of furfaggotry. The first is most cancerous and most likely to lead to irl cringe, but the others while still cringe furshit, are kept in the closet by most.


Did you miss the part where I said biologically female. Literally thing only physical characteristic that tell you they're a tranny is th fact that they had a doctor turn their ass fat into a dick.
There's definitely grey zones.


And so is Unteralterbach. Your point?

Citation needed

Who is the artist for the game?

You see way more fursuit cringe irl than you see people showing off their drawn furry porn.

Rustle, some gook who is going blind, I remember reading somewhere else from people who uh happen to have that knowledge about the tracing. It's more common among lolicon artists than you would think.

Thanks for revealing yourself as a memespouting moron who does not know a single thing about what you are talking about and only jumps into threads to spout bullshit. The artist is Muk.

In addition, Rustle going blind was bullshit too.

I remember seeing an archive of a halfchan /h/ thread that claimed certain artists were involved with prostitution, or had actually molested children themselves. Could probably find it if I bothered to look. Was interesting to read.

That's good news. If he went blind I don't know where the fuck I'd turn if I needed good flooring advice.

I probably remembered the claims wrong but this is definitely the thread. A few are named who allegedly trace their stuff and things like that. My main takeaway from it was that the artist who did one of my favourite h-manga is apparently a middle-aged woman.
Other claims:
Apparently these threads are a regular thing there. This one was just linked to me a few months back.

archived.moe/h/thread/4656696/

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Some guy actually did a copycat crime and claimed that he was inspired by one of Quzilax's doujins. Some little girl's life was ruined because of some sick fuck that couldn't tell reality and fiction apart.

Did he also gas himself?

No?

degeso~

This いえのかぎ? I got a strong impression that it was very anti-lolicon. That combined with a brief look through the writer's Twitter made me lose all interest in it despite MUK's art.

Oh, ok.

Unusual lolis

What do you mean?

>>>/loli/81870
Loli IS pedophilia and lolicon artists are pedos. Take it from lolifags themselves, many faggots from that board seem to be very knowledgeable about that kind of stuff as well. Their own thread on the subject is my smoking gun, just look at all the evidence. This picture for example, the upper drawing is a trace.

To be fair, the girl enjoys it, since she is a masochist. It was pretty heartwarming by the end too.

At the time his Twitter was a near constant flow of political opinions and I didn't get the impression that he could keep it from bleeding into his work (or just outright using his work as a soapbox). I was already wavering after the double blow of all ages and anti-lolicon, but that just pushed me over the edge.

Wait so the guy who drew that is "anti-lolicon"?

He's against molesting real children. Nippon, unlike you filthy western gaijin in denial, use the word lolicon to mean pedophile or content related to pedohpilia because that's its literal meaning.


Image.

No, the guy who wrote it was.

Looking at this really destroys that whole "It's not realistic. It's stylized. Real children don't look like this." argument. Not like it was very strong in the first place.

It's called a free market dumbasses. People have been asking steam for "quality control" since forever.

Get used to it, it's 2017. It's about time Gaben did something positive about his gaming platform.

Y-you are clearly a goon and you just made all that up

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Do you have a single fact to back that up?

no
mods are in on it

The only way to prove that picture is a trace is to post the original. Which you, obviously, should not do. You do realize what the issue with positing a claim that cannot be legally proven is, don't you?

Have we entered the shitposting zone yet?

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Don't know why you faggots always harp on about SJWs, jews and tumblr all day, when at the end, you all have the same goal.

3D is pig disgusting. I just want to be left alone to masturbate to my cartoons.

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