Want to make games

I've coded my own online multiplayer bullet hell which sent the bullet pattern recipes to clients. You're vastly overstating how hard shit is.

It was a joke, I didn't find high school math hard.
is not hard, is something kids learn when they're preeteens bro.

What about Math Blaster?

u wot

Just Like Make Game

well, any 10-13 year old kid who is passionate about math could learn high school shit by his own, and math geniuses were doing college level math when they were 16 or something.

Wow, it's like math is actually easy and logical and the whole thing about it being hard is a meme.

Seriously OP?

Basic trigonometry and applications of mechanics (a lot of which is common sense) is most advanced level of maths you would need to make a game. If you don't even know that then god help you.

This should get you started.

yeah, but you need to make a kid passionate to study math.

and math is hard if you're a low IQ person.

because I'm an artfaggot and I hated math in school.

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Read better you cunt.

Same here, user. I thought I was just retarded my whole life, but it turns out that even calculus is easy and fun.

There should be an edict where if a teacher fails to adequately teach 100% of students, they're shot at the end of the term. Just in the foot. So they learn. It's an educational environment, after all.

I think math schools should teach math history.

I'm so grateful that my A-Level (read: High School) teacher was actually passionate about teaching math.

Isn't that what they're already doing?

did you learn about math history?

math history is only taugh in a optional class to math majors in college.

not even math majors study history of math.

Not really, but the Further Math class (where I actually learned stuff) was after college for 2 and a half hours twice a week and we'd just learn at a decent pace because we wanted to and we'd stop and play bowls between learning things. It was just a really environment to learn a lot of fundamental things like calculus in and the effort he put into teaching really showed off.
I wish more teachers in particular were so passionate.

I was referring to the fact that most math you learn at school and even at the first few years of university is hundreds if not thousands of years old.
Seriously though, it's a great idea. Students are very receptive to that kind of stuff, even small anecdotes or legends about mathematicians, of which there is a fuckton.

Holy shit, either use an engine like unity or learn c++.
With games there’s no use straddling the fence.

it was the same way with history and art for me, especially when you find out how much mystery there is to history but that's not what history classes are there to teach you.

I'm not a top tier programmer, plus I'm making shit for android.

Will learn SDL and C++ later.

There's no reason to learn to sculpt if you can make your masterpiece with watercolours.

What if you want to caress your masterpiece?

That site is amazing. I barely scraped by with a C grade in Calc II, found that site over summer break, and wound up getting A grades in Calc III and Differential Equations. It's a really intuitive set of explanations.
user, if you're serious about understanding math, I highly recommend that site.
t. Photonic Engineer

Then you should learn sculpting, obviously. But if you have a vision and a path to bringing your dreams to life that you already know, there's no reason to be asinine about learning a new form for that path to take. Carpe diem and all. There's always more to learn and never enough time to make what you want.

You’re excused then. But c++ isn’t honestly any harder than java. 2
Get a copy of Bjarne Stroustroup’s c++ textbook (principles and practices, aka “the swan book”) when you have fifty bucks to spare, I think you will appreciate his approach based on your attitude in this thread.

I wish we had more programming students with your fighting spirit, user. Godspeed.

He’s stuck with java in this case. but in general the analogy is more
In general someone with the wherewithal to learn linear algebra is not going to be intimidated by c++.
I admit I’m biased, I’m learning assembly for dead 80s PCs just because it’s a challenge. There’s a middle ground.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW

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That goes for any teacher these days, unless you get lucky and end up with one who actually cares about doing their job.

Just like make game, user.

fug, formatting on the pdf version is shit and can't post the epub.

yeah, I just wanna make a shitty rpg maker game in java where kids travel to diferent towns to learn about math history and solve math puzzles.

could be fun I guess.

I think Professor Layton already done that
but you can still try it out in your own way too user.

There was this game which got good reviews. I haven't tried it though already learned all my hiragana back in 2016 during the numerous localization shitstorms.

State-approved schooling was a mistake. Bring homeschooling back. Make edutainment great again.

that shit better be free. it takes a few sheets of paper and an hour to learn baby moon.

Not everyone was born a natural chink, user. But yes, I do agree it should've also included kanji for a more proper Japanese learning experience.

I mean, there's so much potential to make math interesting without actually slowing it down kids throats.

Imagine some story where your family ranch has a shop and you need to do aritmetic to sell items, like you know, shopkeepers do it in the real world.

then you move to other towns and you need to do harder computations to solve basic real life commerce problems.

Maybe learn some basics of economics while trying to save a town from a socialist politician shilling comunism by using basic math to show why socialism is a retarded idea.

Maybe a secret society of math wizards where you need to do math puzzles and learn from diferent old guys in diferent towns to advance.

You know, making math interesting by using a good story.

but math guys are too autistic to do art.

That's cool and all but when you start getting to stuff like multivariable calculus and differential equations there's so much shit to remember just to muddle through the equation step by step that shoving some kind of faggy little story on top of it just makes everything worse.

because the goal is to get kids excited about math.

also kids today google how to solve videogames puzzles so them not being able to solve it is irrelevant.

but no one actually remembers how to solve differential equations outside the e^ax substitution or ones specific to their work. Most people just look it up on the fly or PhDs use books and programs in unison to solve their equations.

If we're talking about kids that young then you're in for an even worse time, because kids that young can't read either and when they're presented with a "word problem" that tried to dress up a simple algebra equation with a story to make it "exciting" they shut down and groan.

I'm talking about kids 10-12 years old as my goal.

math is something about solving real world problems and I do think teaching kids why would you use a pythagorean equation using some puzzle where they need to calculate the size of a ladder to jump a wall to continue is more interesting than what we teach in college.

My idea is more like: wow, this is how I wish to have been taugh math in school, using history and why people need that in real life than autistically making dozens of calculations with no purpose.

So yeah, like I was saying, they can't read. Some of these fuckers get to 16+ and still can't read.

a lot of anons learned fucking english by playing some pokemon game.

You don't understand the current state of education. Pokemon and JRPGs are shit that we played as kids, not them. I've literally seen 10 year old kids try to play Pokemon and drop right out of it because the opening sequence had too much reading. They like Minecraft and watching let's play's of Five Nights at Freddy's.

because people are too retarded today and can't make something exciting.

also you're overestimating shit.
my nephew was googling some programming shit because he wanted to make some traps in minecraft.

kids still love to learn, is human nature.
education is what sucks dicks.

also you seem to ignore people still read if is something interesting.

also show don't tell, even writers would tell you this.

hell, harry potter was just like ten years ago and kids eat that shit up like candy and were fucking books of several hundred pages.

This is an understatement. There's people around who think that Gamergate was, in part, part of a push by Microsoft to try to get developers to make educational games.

There's gigabux to be made in ed tech, but nobody knows how to do it, because you have to be able to do three things:

1) Make a good video game.
2) Do it in such a fashion that your desired message gets through to, and is retained by, the players.
3) Deliver the game to players.

That's super hard. That said, if you could make such a thing at the calculus level, and it was good, I would shove that down my student's throats as soon as possible.

99% of the 16+ year olds that can't read are niggers. Most humans can read JRPG level dialoag by age 12.

Do you happen to live in Africa or Brazil?

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Why did I have to pick physics as a specialty in a math school.

With mechanics of fluids you mean stuff such as pressure, flow rate, bernoulli p1+1/2(m1v1²)+m1h1g=p2+1/2(m2v2²)+m2h2g, etc?

I guess his reading skills aren't up to par.

I'm conflicted between calling you retarded for not learning it in the first place, or being really impressed that you actually went and learned it on your own with no impetus other than wanting to.

No, he means mechanics that are fluid, like gender fluid gears and bolts

Fluid mechanics isn't that hard aside from Bernoulli
All those different type of integrals you need to learn after Calc I can suck my dick though

faggot

Educational games are shit and you are retarded.

Also literal 14 year olds can make games. You are worse than children at gamedev.
Improve yourself.

The only time I was ever impressed with the application of math to something was in The Mysterious Island. There's a scene early on where the group comes across a high cliff and are unable to identify how high up it is, but the engineer/leader of the group managed to use a ruler, a stick, and the Pythagorean theorem combined with the height of the cliff to figure out how high it is. I can't remember why they needed that information now, but later on they go and do shit like bomb the cliffside to open up an underwater cave, drain it (and the lake it was connected to) out partially, and make the cave their base of operations. Great book. Something like that could make a good setting basis for that sort of game.

That book inspired me to go into engineering, actually. Except then I found out modern engineers are nothing like that and the undergrad classes were all bullshit, so I went into something with less smelly pajeets.

But still, it serves to show - The most important part in the game or story is to have the character using those skills be someone that kids playing it are going to look at and say "Holy shit, this is fucking badass." Alternatively, pull a Gurren Lagann, and have a early Kamina, that gives the player (the Simon) a bunch of inspiring messages early on and really sets the stage for getting through the shit in game.

I've actually had lots of ideas for how educational games might be done, but I wouldn't want to do it unless I had people with technical skills that I trusted, enough money to go independent, and absolute control over when/if we sold out. Because I sure as hell wouldn't want to like Microsoft, Facebook, or Google acquire a single god damn idea that came from my head. Fuck them, and fuck what they would do.

Related
blog.wolfire.com/2009/07/linear-algebra-for-game-developers-part-1/

I thought students sleeping during class was an american TV trope until it happened in 9th grade.
Thank fuck that woman died of cancer.

This is the exact problem with American education. They don't give a shit whether you care about your subject or not. I transferred from some private middle school that didn't teach division or the metric system to a public one, so I came in completely ignorant. I just read the textbook given to me and other books, never listening to any of my teachers, and ended up being the top student in a school of over a thousand kids. Once I was in high school, the school psychologist told me I was a sperg because I was too focused on my studies, and I ended up getting prescribed some medication that completely fucked me up. By the end of my time at public high school, which was sophomore year, I was given weeks of extra time to let me finish assignments and almost failed math. The only reason why I didn't flunk the year because they exempted me from a math final, which would've certainly lowered my grade from a D- to an F and forced me to repeat. As soon as I went off of medication, I completely turned around and returned back to normal.

Well in defense of american students I can say that I was denied advanced classes and slept through most of the standard ones as I'd finish the issued paperwork within like 2-7 minutes of the 45 minute class.
Only class I could stay awake in was Culinary Arts which I got booted out of for threatening another student who wouldn't stop fucking putting pepper in everything

WHAT THE FUG

There's your problem

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Imagine that impulsive reaction of "lmao autism" when anyone here writes a reply which takes more than one post and apply that to his teachers.

They don't give a shit, period, in some cases. I was almost a teacher, and in my time observing classes, I observed during the run up to the standardized tests. The day before it, one of the teachers told her class that she knew everyone could pass if they tried, but when the students started walking out the door, she sighed, shook her head, looked at me, and said, "You have to say it even if you know it's a lie." The one teacher I met in that school who wasn't a complete burnout who hated every last student was a young teacher who had gotten in through an alternative certification program. She told me she was probably going to be fired when the semester ended because the state recently passed a law that made alternative certification teachers a sort of second class citizen in the world of education.

I find it hard to believe you.

America

Fake and gay

The only hard thing about math is for people to accept that there are different sizes of infinity. Countable vs uncountable, etc.

I live in slavland and I always though standards here were low. Although its much more of a roll on what teacher you get. Our geography, physics and math teachers fucked us up. But then I keep hearing weirder and weirder shit about Merica and when I hear about stuff they study I feel like our system is 2 or 3 school years ahead.

I was really invested in math in seventh and eighth grade at the neglect of some of some of the other courses I was enrolled. After taking the placement test, which I had no idea regarding half of the stuff because I didn't know division or the metric system I was put in an honors math class for a grade above my level. There were three main main math classes in seventh grade, grade level, eighth grade level (which I was placed in,) and a high school freshman level. I was getting Cs and had an awful teacher who actually made me cry, so I explained my situation to him and he gave me some assistance. He was honestly the best teacher I had because he was actually passionate. By the end of the year, I was performing at a college freshman level because I loved the class so much, and easily breezed through eighth grade math. My seventh grade teacher got me to join the math Olympiad team, but the school psychologists were apparently concerned I was a mediocre student in other classes, but a prodigy in math. So I was told to be properly evaluated, and found I had an eidetic memory, ADHD, and Asperger's Syndrome. Instead of putting me in accelerated math courses, they told me to stop being so focused on math, put me on various medications, and sent me on my way. At this time, it was the end of my eighth grade year, so they sent me on my way, I switched schools so I didn't have my seventh grade teacher helping me along, and I had some really uninspired teacher my freshman year of high school.

I stopped learning after 8th grade, but I graduated high school.

Typing of the Dead is great, the fuck you on about.

Algebra 1 was literally senior year math and everyone failed.
I can add single digit numbers.

I'm actually considering modding Typing of the Dead to become Math of the Dead where you solve math problems at rapid speed.

What the fuck do you do for 4 years?
That only happened with 12th grade for me

If all the kids stop caring and everyone fails everything then everyone passes everything because its more difficult to turn around an entire class than it is to just sweep it under the rug and say they all passed.
If all the kids failed and all the parents marched on the school blaming the teachers and then the teachers union throws a shitfit and then all the schools in the county close because the teachers strike, things don't get better.

Maybe I'm not mathematically challenged then, I had to repeat basic math EVERY time I failed algebra.
I never got 1 solid year of algebra either, once I started failing I got shoved back into basic math. No tutoring, no afterschool, no help, just go back to basic math you basic fag and learn how to add and subtract because that's why you can't do fucking GRAPHS.

100% certain that all these “stories” are either trolling or you’re all literally niggers.

Go for it OP. That actually sounds like a cool idea.
Math is underrated.

I stopped caring in second grade when they told me i wasn't allowed to work ahead.

i only learned maths and didn't need a private instructor to pass in 6th grade of primary school because the teacher answered my questions. i needed a private instructor to barely pass all other grades because all other teachers kept telling me to shut the fuck up or ignored me whenever i wanted to ask a question. i didn't even ask that many questions to begin with. that's school for ya. a colossal waste of time. IF they actually know how to teach you stuff, you'll only end up needing 30% of it irl. ofc, most teachers don't know how to teach more complex stuff like maths so feel free to cut that down to 15%.

I wouldn't recommend reading any of these. First of all, they spend 300 pages worth of text explaining what an internet forum post explains in 3 paragraphs, and another 100 pages highlighting solutions to specific problems which you could find on the internet for collective 10 minutes. None of them go into great depth and really teach you in and out, and without that they're as good as a wikipedia summary entry.

The books I recommend are curicculum books, user manuals, and The Art Of Programming by Knuth which he never finished.

This nigga right here.

I'm a low-level network guy and I moonlight as a gamedev. I'd not recommend books. They were useful a long time ago before information was easily accessible (I memorized most of the DOS API via book while stuck on a tobacco farm in Kentucky in the '80s) but times have rather obviously changed. Today they're mostly for people who like to be seen as a programmer rather than program.

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Read this while listening to this song and you'll cry (I did cry):

maa.org/external_archive/devlin/LockhartsLament.pdf

I cried (seriously, I did cry IRL) because I love art, I love beauty, and I was denied one of the most beautiful arts that exist.

Imagine if all your life you have been denied from listening to music and rather all your life you only have seen music in written form and you hated music theory class and couldn't remember how a staff notation works, then you suddenly listen to beethoven nine symphony for first time in your life.

I'm so angered right now to be denied all my life from this art, this pleasure.

Fuck you, fuck kikes and go fuck yourself.

;_;

I seriously hope that some poor faggot won't go and go through all this shit before making a fucking game. The key to learning any skill is practice, and you won't get practice from reading books. Just fucking sit down, go through a few online tutorials to get the bare basics, and get down to trying to code something, looking up shit as you go.

As for math, you only need baby-tier, high-school math for the vast majority of whatever the fuck you are trying to program, you will mostly need logic rather than complex math. The only exception being graphics. Programming graphics (such as in OpenGL and similar) is a different level entirely and high school math ain't gonna cut it (if you are interested in this sort of thing, I recommend making a program in OpenGL 4.0 or higher that loads and renders terrain out of a bitmap heightmap and then implementing Phong's reflection model on it. It's difficult enough to force you to learn all the basics, yet not so hard as to be impossible.)

That being said, most people just use an already existing engine to make their games rather than creating them from the ground up, and you need far less math and programming knowledge for that.

That math puzzle adventure game where you go into this weird aztec monkey kingdom to rescue your uncle from a fur trader was pretty dope tbh. I haven't played it since I was a kid but it was the shit back then.

almost as pathetic as telling young devs to not learn art (drawing, painting, animation) because some engine can make art based on NN from google with some clicks.

or almost as retarded to not tell people to learn music and listen to music from the renaissance.

why not use some NN to make music for us, rather than learning music to make it express what we want in our game.

math is an art, and is as beatifull as music or painting, so why not teach kids about the beauty of art?

why not teach kids math can be amazing and that a fibonacci sequence is the basics of nature.

so fuck you.

He's not saying don't learn, he's saying sitting and spending 30 hours reading books isn't practicing, which is important if you ever want to make a goddamn game. The same thing applies to art. Sitting and reading Loomis cover to cover isn't going to do shit for you if you're not spending hours a day practicing drawing. Considering you yourself said you've only programmed a Breakout clone in Java, it's pretty arrogant to think you're experienced enough to lecture others on how they should be taught.

And what's with your constant line breaks after every sentence for fuck sake.

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>Math can also be art
No, fuck off. We've seen what happens to shit when someone tries to make it art. All of a sudden we have people who major in "social math sciences" and "math culture" being funded by the government to tell everyone what is or isn't math. Say that math is fun to learn or whatever the hell you want, but the moment that disgusting three letter word leaves your mouth I'm calling you an irredeemable faggot.

I don't believe that games can generate this so called "spark" that makes people dive into deep learning about a subject and swim in its wonders. Not only because I've never seen this in my life, but also because the whole concept of self-learning in this day and age is subject to hostility, persecution and segregation.

But who knows, maybe you'll be the first, just know you are a pioneer here. I wouldn't focus on money, you will be making God's work there user, don't create another wall separating people from something that can change their whole lives.

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That is pretty much the exact thing that the pdf posted was talking about. There is an "art" of mathematics, but it's always used as bullshit and window dressing in schools. Lockhart basically says to burn it all down, and I can't really disagree with that.

That image gave me a pedicure

I loved math in school because it was the least pozzed subject. It's incredibly hard to fuck around with shit when I only want to know the facts and don't give a shit about you trying to inspire me. Give me the tools I need to solve a problem none of this "beauty appreciation" bullcrap.
Either be unemployed or teach other people mathematics nowadays nigger faggot as a pure math degree is one of the least useful STEM degrees.

His job. Not just because that's the correct grammar, but any teacher who cares and is competent is likely a guy.

that's not how research matematics or pure math works.

you're too underage to see the beauty of math and you sound like a brainlet engineer trying to plug his equation without understanding how it works.

Great then you can save the sophistry for when anyone wants to pursue a useless degree like that.
You are a double nigger faggot

literally a brainlet that thinks a job is the path to having wealth.

Last I checked you can't invest food stamps in stocks nor your own start up company faggot.

wew, I love being a wagecuck.

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Oh wait, so I suppose your parents just gifted you a fund to invest in shit I sure am glad you figured out the secret from moving from one income class to another, just be born in another! Or I suppose you could go cold brew into a start up without any degree, maybe you'll be able to gamble on being the next Bill Gates since that's a common occurrence.

You cut that shit out.

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Nah mate, you got the wrong idea here. Dude's saying Math can be art in the sense that it's something you can master and put a lot of passion into.
It's a field where you can always improve not for the sake of "how much money\respect is this gonna get me?" but for the sake of "how can I make this even better than it was yesterday?"
It's… Actual art. It's loving your craft and refining it because of how passionate you are about it. It's doing it for it's own sake, not to feed your ego or scam other people but because it's something incredibly beautifull and you want to make it even better so you can share it with everyone else.

Thanks a lot for that, mate. Bookmarked to read more and share with other people, this shit makes me legit sad.

I'm an engineer and I have a bit of taste for math but more for the pratical side of it. There's a lot I never liked because it's too abstract and I never get to see anything with it, and yet there's a lot that's actually amazing in how it works.
The Trigonometry Circle for instance, it's fucking amazing. It's nothing but a circle with maybe a line on the right side. And yet it tells you everything about sin, cos, tan, radians, frequency and even describes Imaginary Numbers perfectly. All of these concepts seem incredibly hard to understand and grasp and yet you look at that little circle, you imagine a line going around it, and everything clicks into place.

I also remenber trying to create a formula that describes with some accuracy gas trades between 2 mixtures based on pressure, temperature, thermal capacity and volume. The damn thing was an impossible problem while I was thinking of it like regular math classes, but the second I started to think about the variables more seriously, what they actually are and mean, I begun to see the patterns that describe exactly what I want. And when I was done with it, I could simulate far more phenomenons than even I was looking to simulate without any extra effort.
That shit was my magnun opus. It looks horribly messy and complicated to understand and yet when you do, it's beautifully simple.

yeah user, when you see the beauty of math, is like listening for the first time a bach piece and actually understanding it.

Right now I'm watching lectures on math history and I would say math history should be taugh in school.

For some reason this has the opposite effect for me. Knowing how video games work just makes them seem ugly to me.

It ruins the magic. Once I have a vague idea of how something works it's boring to me.

Oh so you lost the argument so now you're just straw manning, good to know.

Back in high school I flunked math several times. My grandmother who lived far away used to be a math teacher, when I asked her for help I learned how beautiful math it, it was such a joy to finish math problems.

Then I finished high school and unlearned everything.

actually having to discover I need fucking trigonometry and pytagoras for a fucking shmup is motivating me enough to actually put effort into trigo, and later into other shit.

math history is pretty neat, like you see why that shit was invented, and why people need it IRL.

google retiring early and compound interest in savings and investments.

Technically, you don't need any form of education to start a business, only a good idea.
Realistically, you do need a certain amount of money to kickstart the whole thing with a job being a good start. However you still have inheritance, bank loans, crowdfunding, public investment and government assistance as well. I believe in Canada you can ask for quite a large sum if you want to start any form of "cultural company", especially videogame companies, as long as your idea involves promoting "positive ideas".

Funny you'd mention music because there's a lot of crossover between math and music.
There's stuff like the note C being a 440 Hz sound and every scale of it is a multiple (220 Hz, 880 Hz, 1320 Hz)
There's the length of cords in an harp having mathematical proportions between each other to garantee they play the same note.
There's even a neat system in reed instrunments where a linear force (blowing air) produces a synosoidal force (the vibration of the reed) that's akin to transforming continuous electrical current to alternating current.
And then there's all the patterns you start to notice in rythm for western music like jazz, blues and in melody for european music like every classical piece.

Oh, I know that feeling very well.
You look behind a wall and you see a whole world but you know very well it's just a set piece for background that you can never explore.
You see NPCs reacting in a certain way that looks pretty great but then you notice they are either scripted to do this or there's limitations in their AI, often exploitable.
It's when you notice the boundaries and you're reminded you're still playing a game.

For videogames, you have to go look for something else, for what's actually the art part of them, and then you can actually apreciate them.
For instance, re-play DMC4 and take notice of how your strikes sync with the music. That's intentional in order to create a synesthesy feeling in you. Then notice that as your rank increases, so does the pace of the music and the speed of your animations, keeping the sync and now making it fast-paced into a blood-pumping frenzy.
Instead of looking strictly at the combat, world or art design, you can look at these details and see truly fine craftsmanship in making videogames and that's just beautifull.

And now I'm just totally bored and too demotivated to work on an /agdg/ project

youtube.com/watch?v=xyowJZxrtbg

the own math teachers agree math education is dog shit.

whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/08/440hz-music-conspiracy-to-detune-good-vibrations-from-natural-432hz.html
440Hz is an unnatural sound that the jew industry made as an standart to tune out music from their angelical sounds and actually made them lame and distorted, just to please their luciferian jupited god.

people aren't even aware how deep the rabbit hole goes.

That's A, nerd
Violins tune to A440

drop out from college.

literally learn a trade and use that money to afford food while you self teach all you need to make games.

Fuck you, I like engineering and I don't have delusions that game development is sustainable income.

you'll make the same money as a carpenter than as an engineer.

Yes, the education is dogshit. I remember not learning anything and still passing. When I reached high school I knew NOTHING from the middle school years, just the basics.

Aren't you supposed to hate the Jews?
I'm not a proficient carpenter and I'm relatively good at computer science

If learning an alphabet takes you more than 2 days to get the basic study then you really need to either do something different or stop while your ahead and find something else to do.

what a surprise, the dumb commie fuck doesn't know anything about history

Call me shocked
They also don't need entertainment, modern conveniences either user. I do appreciate your love of the simple life though so go fuck off to a cave and draw your precious geometric shapes for mental masturbation.
Ah the one's living in mud huts in the middle of the jungle what heights we should aspire to with their example. The Aids and Ebola must suck though without modern medication.

this, just start working on your thing and that's infinitely more valuable. If you want to say that 3d game engines or whatever require some kind of advanced logic to make, they really, truly, don't. It just takes a lot of autisim (time) to finish them, but you can finish them no matter how shit you are.

I started programming my first true-3D engine when I didn't even know what a fucking linked list was. The code was obviously dogshit, but that didn't stop me, because it's really all about time. Granted this is a shitty engine, but it still counts. You learn as you go.

Really makes you think.

What the fuck am I reading, are you confusing a mixed economy with capitalism?
Why of course not user you can be an anarcho-capitalist and not believe in capitalism it's really quit simple.

Goddamit user, I didn't need all this autism but now I'm stuck with it. All I knew was that our band tunes every instrument by 440 Hz according to the shittiest one that can't go any lower, now I'm gonna see conspiracies everywhere.

Fuck if I know what letter is what. For me it's Dó, Ré, Mi, Fá, Sol, Lá, Si, and Dó.

For a freshmen engineer, yes. For an engineer with several years of experience, not by a fucking longshot. For an engineer in a specialized field? AHAHAHAH
And let's not forget, you won't even have the same volume of work to do in any case.

Please kill me you gave my eyes cancer

You also forgot to mention that one vital part of higher education is also networking with people in your related field. This helps immensely with start ups as well as getting yourself a career.

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And look how many people that graduate with STEM make even a third of that.
STEM is a lie perpetrated by the government and educational systems to make more wageslaves out of what is supposed to be white collar jobs. In order to even be considered for a job like that you need 5+ years experience, but you can't gain experience unless you have the job. I know engineers who work for minimum wage because there are 1000+ new engineers fighting for 10 jobs.

stop taking the bait

Thanks mods

S-sorry I'll go delete it

Anytime, just keep it related to game dev and the mathematics involved.

Also stop taking the politibait.

it's all cool

report those niggers again if they come back

fugg off microsoft

trying to learn java killed all of my motivation

Lmao voice isn't a real instrument

Is he still working on that? Hell, is he still alive?

CLEANSE THE EARTH

Thanks for cleaning up the thread.
I'm going to re-upload Lockhart's Lament; I encourage everyone to read it, it's very good.

Your school sounds like total shit. Go self-study and learn what your school wouldn't teach you. Also look up youtube videos for classes of stuff you want to learn. Some will suck, but you can find good ones.

Oh, here's a math website. tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/Alg/Alg.aspx

That's because Java is cancer. If you want an easy language, go learn Python 3. It's easy as fuck. Personally I strongly prefer C (language of performance nutters everywhere), but I understand that C might be less straightforward than Python to you.

Anyway, go figure out what works best for you. Let me give you a good site to keep you motivated: codingame.com/

If it's not politically pozzed, Microsoft funded, common core bullshit, that teaches actual math and/or hard science, why not?

Uma delícia.