Is there such a thing as graphics being too realistic?

Is there such a thing as graphics being too realistic?

We haven't even graphically advanced from 2007. The only good engine is in the hands of EA and its used wrong.

There is coming too close to realism without actually achieving it. Then you're stuck in the uncanny valley.

ITT: Hopefully some insightful discussion on the Uncanny Valley and its use and abuse in gaming.
There are times when that can be extremely off-putting, but that can also work in favor of the game as well, where the purpose may be to unnerve the player for the purpose of atmosphere. I'd love to see a good Atmospheric/Psychological Horror game that, rather than use the environment to terrify you, used the human-connection and empathy to draw this existential dread out of you, and do it well, rather than be just another hipster walking simulator.
Dear Esther came close, but that was more melancholy than anything else.

someone hasn't seen uncharted 4 or horizon zero dawn

This is more the case of making a character designed with a cartoony style in mind too detailed

The problem is not that it's too realistic, but that it's too ugly.

Realistic graphics are the cancer that killed videogames, prove me wrong
Before them every game had to have a unique style, now everything looks the same.

How many fucking threads are we gonna have as an excuse to talk about this movie?

I think the fault lies more on the art direction

Yes. Realism drives the cost of game development, and hardware, through the fucking roof for marginal gains.

Nah, the real turning point came when Device-capabilities exceeded what we were capable of programming.
The last really good console, to me, will be the DS Lite, because it was those games that had that last spark of innovation and original design in order to surpass the limited capabilities of the console, As did the previous gameboy iterations. Past the fifth generation of gaming things kind of went to shit in terms of using limited resources to do a lot.

The problem isn't that it's "too realistic". We're just now entering the uncanny valley. Retards think that the faces in Goldeneye are uncanny valley, but they're retards.

The problem with top tier graphics today is that it's realistic enough that you could be tricked into thinking it's real, but there's still something just off about it. Like a person with a neurological disorder that makes their movements a little less fluid. We'll get past it, but get ready for several years of Polar Express but even more disturbing.

you're massive pleb, I hope you don't embarrass yourself by playing those in public

It's been a while, Quentin.

Quentinposting is old and tired.

there is nothing wrong with this trailer. just a case of Holla Forums bitching about nothing

Dropped, odds are good it will be another R&C.

Enjoy your 0.000001 shekels.

No. /thread
Grow the fuck up.

Absolutely.

It's like they went out of their way to make her as ugly as possible.

No, the word you're looking for is grotesque.

She looks like the 17 year old I that I took her virginity before graduation

Both in movies and in video games, computer generated models simply don't look real. In the world of video games, making something "realistic" will make it instantly dated as, no matter how "good" the graphics are, they are obviously not real and fall to be, basically, uncanny valley.

Sticking with a stylized look will make it last longer. The best situation I can say in a comparative film manner would be Shin Godzilla. While there are scenes that are clearly cgi, there are other scenes where it looks like a real prop. The thing is, there isn't a real prop. As they were making it, there was one branch of the cgi texture artists who wanted to make it look "real", however the director said 'no, don't make it look real, make it look like it has the texture of a suit". Amusingly, the fact that they focused on that made it look much more believable in the long run.

Fuck you and your thinly veiled LOL thread.

Because prior to 200X the fancy graphics were limited by computing power but these days it's mainly limited by graphic designer's skill and talent.

Correcting is caring

You actually take the opinions of normalfags seriously?

We should contact the Holla Forums team to liberate the SAGE engine for us.

The problem there isn't that they are too realistic, it's that they are trying to mix realism with cartoony and you end up with something uncanny.

The problem with your vid OP is that they are trying more realistic graphics on a more cartoony style that didn't need to be changed.

This is wrong on so many level

Yes. Uncharted 4 is the PINNACLE of realistic graphics. You cannot beat it, only try and match it.

Show me what graphics ps4 shows in 60fps during gameplay.

I want to realistically impregnate Carmelita Fox

Unfortunately, U4 is only 30fps. However, it's very smooth which allows the graphics to shine even more. Here is just how amazing the details of the models are.

Shill kun you're retarded

Me too


He's baiting you mongoloid.

Am I supposed to be impressed?

HZD looks like shit.

It's true. Solid fps that rarely, if ever breaks. Only an autist would complain about 60fps unironically.

While I do agree that the game does look really impressive, in Uncharted 4 they really dropped the ball with the environments.

Uncharted 3 has some of the best looking levels I've ever seen.

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Too bad there is 0 clearness the game is blurry is fuck. I remember watching some clocktower or something scene where I felt sick.

I was actually looking forward to seeing a game with Sully and Sam in Brazil.
Instead they made a game with Chloe and that Mary Sue Kang girl because feminism and Current Year.
Two British characters and neither of them are white, that's a fucked up thing to do.

Hunter pls go back to RotR

Yes. Graphics are holding back actual visuals quite a bit. Having experience in gamedev - if you want to have good graphics get ready to fucking asphyxiate your game design to load/unload shit constantly, be unable to actually have open level design and overly optimize everything.

You know when you squeeze through rocks in most AAA games? In Uncharted, or Tomb Raider, or Dead Space. That's your levels streaming in. Recognize it once, and it ruins games for you.

People are talking about the uncanny valley, but we've already gotten to the other side of that I think. The real issue is just that, at a point, you're just wasting resources. You don't need anything near realistic to have a good looking game, but it's the only thing a corporation can throw money at and inevitably get better results. There's not such a simple ratio of money-to-quality for anything else like gameplay or writing.

What the hell is happening in that scene? The direction of it is confusing. Also
LOL

Devs make it appear interpolated by adding motion blur.

If the graphics are realistic but the characters stare blank-faced and flap their jaws like a puppet, it's a lot worse looking than if an N64 character had the same limitations.
Graphics should serve good animation, not the other way around.

The show had basically completely run out of money, so that's what they were able to put out.

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HA

How about a show that clearly doesn't have much money put into it but is stretched out to fill a season? Akiba's Trip comes to mind with the amount of QUALITY on display even from the start but I've seen a bunch of shows that don't clearly deserve to last 1 season, let alone a second one. I'd say Evil and Live, Dynamic Discord but I'm like the only one watching how bad anime truly can be.

They did. She's a realistic depiction of some girl they picked from tumblr.

Wait a fucking sec
Is the turtle and sly voiced by harry partridge?

I want to fugg Lady Ammit tbh.

Meanwhile on the PS2…

Their face models look like something out of mass effect andromada and looks like plastic. The environments aren't that great either.

Bentley is voiced by Matt Olsen, same as the games. Sly's movie voice is being done by Ian James Corlett, also known for voicing Cheetor in "Beast Machines" and Johnny Test's dad.

I'm not sure where I heard it from but in the olden days when they could not have allot of poly on the character the designed the textures better and put shades and light on,but now they are almost exclusively relaying on high poly models but not so much on textures.

Aside from a bit higher restitution. Graphic should have stopped being a big deal after the year 2000. Graphic reached the height water mark around 2004-2011. Everything beyond those dates is just Planned obsolescence to sell unnecessary hardware and software. In fact I would be happy with Upscaled PS1 graphics.

I was watching a friend playing one of the last CoD game ("advanced warfare" or "future warfare", somthing like that) and the cutscenes were full on uncanny valley, it was horrible, same thing for "Hidden Agenda", the faces are great, but the dead eyes just make it so creepy, I don't understand people liking that sort of designs.

whats the deal with the facebook-tier "meme" kiddo?

Does it count when designers just blindy vomit realistic special effects all over a pre-established cartoony artsyle, because they can't understand any other way to "improve" things?

Who cares what people think of you when playing games in public?

Only sickly melvins get sick playing video games. Go back to your hospital bed, you invalid.


The movie was gonna be by the guys who made ReBoot and Beast Wars/Beast Machines. But the movie is canned now and it's gonna be a tv show instead.

It was in a thread discussing Horizon Zero Dawn. An user pointed out that the texture on the character's face was mostly just a single skin tone with very little variation, while the faces in HL2 and other games from that era have the different wrinkles and details painted in, in addition to the character models having them. Now they just throw on a skin tone and hope the lighting engine does the rest for them.

Are you serious?

no, thats idiotic, if thats what youre going for its best to get it. but that doesnt mean it will look good.

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I know OP wanted a LOL thread, but I'm going to post anyways.

Graphics are fine in walking simulator VR games. Necessary even. But they're more or less just icing on the cake when it comes to other games. It's more important that a game plays well than looks nice.

Artstyle > Graphics.
With that said, Pixar movies and CGI will always be ahead of video games. They don't try to push for realistic looking but their technology in making animated things look real are so far ahead of what gaming looks.

Yes

too bad that game is filled with judaism and is a windows 10 exclusive

Man, reminds me when GT4 blew my mind back on the Playstation 2
Too bad i won't touch Xbone with a ten-foot pole

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It's a good thing textures are one of the most accessible things to mod in a game. Shit even Dark Souls has a few overhaul packs available.

GT Sport looks and plays way better. Just putting it out there.

All graphics should just be nippon style tbh.
Not even shitposting.

user was looking at a nigger, someone should have cleared that up for him.

Maybe. If it was guaranteed less moe shit I'de probably be more on board.

(nice double dubs)

It's hard to show the obvious when people don't want to see it. It might break them.

7/10, good job

The next big step in graphics will come from real time ray tracing, increased geometry hit the point of diminishing returns years ago and lighting just hasn't been progressing. What's worse is how developers are now taking on ugly post-processing filters to convince normalfags that if graphics look different, clearly they are getting 'better'.

Uncanny Valley is a meme to deflect criticism of poor design.

I really, really want to impregnate Carmelita Fox.

I fapped to her and sly quite a lot when those games came out.

>and Sly
As in, you jerked off to Carmelia getting fucked by Sly or you're just a faggot?

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gfurs need to be gassed

THIS IS BLATANT BAIT.

nobody likes furries but that image is stupid.
> i like girs > i like hetero porn > i like the dick in hetero porn > i like boys
it works either way

Wonder who made this.

both of them
one at a time
in game

I thought this too at first, but I think it's the androgyny in furry art that acts as a pathway to other orientations, hence why there's such a high percentage of homosexuals and bisexuals in the community. Like this stickman and woman, the only indicators of sex is genitalia.

>I think it's the androgyny in furry art that acts as a pathway to other orientations

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noname's boys are way cuter and more feminine than takatsu's boys.

It's rather remarkable how regardless of the topic of discussion on Holla Forums, it somehow turns into /cuteboys/ by the end of it.

The 75% example looks way more masculine than the 100% example. I've seen some of NONAME's doujins, he draws his boys pretty damn petite and feminine.

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Kill yourself, KIKE

all homo fag KIKES need to die in a bus fire and then permanently fuck off back to /utg/ where they came from

Furry porn doesn't turn you gay, it's that if you like furry porn you're more likely to be gay in the first place.

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stupid

I've been stuck between stages 3 and 4 for decades but I'm into bestiality, not furfaggotry.

but muh slopes

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I bet Carmelita's thighs feel like satin sheets

200% gay: self inserting as the trap

She's pretty foxy

There are better kitsune out there.

if there's anything worse then a furry, it's a weeaboo furry.

Kill yourself, KIKE

Tell that to /monster/

But the expression itself implies a poor design

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wow rude

Why ?

Its interesting how /furry/ can be worse than /kemono/, despite the pretty much the same shit.

deviantart

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Nigger that meme's older than you are.

somebody set up us the BAAWM XDDDDD

Why doesn't Mark do something about the /furry/ cross posters infestation?
THIS SHIT IS ABOUT AS BAD AS THE FACT THAT ALL THE DRAW THREADS & GG IS INFESTED W/ REDDIT CROSSPOSTING!
ITS TIME TO STOP!

user that's like calling weeaboos /a/ cross posters.

hey everyone other board uses Holla Forums as a public restroom, why not start with the biggest shitters first? and then video games were banned from Holla Forums forever

Like Mark.

user its clear that there are /a/ cross posters but they don't shit up every thread with porn. I have far right wing views but I also hate it when falseflaggots shit up threads pretending to be Holla Forumsacks. Likewise I assume real furfags ought to also want to keep their autism contained in the closet to avoid the inevitable necessary purge.

you realize the slippery slope works both ways?

I wish they did.

There are very clearly /a/ cross posters, but my point was the the group "furfags" is far larger than "/furry/ cross posters". Just like most weebs we have here don't bother with /a/, but can be just as cancerous and annoying. also /furry/ doesn't exist anymore, it's /fur/ now

you imbecile idiot you cant slide upwards without momentum

the end of the day is please stop posting your disgusting porn. You have your own board for that.

clever response. But you know, what I meant. If you allow everyone to post anything regardless of context then Holla Forums is no longer a video games board. Being tolerant of everything, Holla Forums becomes so diluted and meaningless that it at the end of the say is essentially Holla Forums. So while one could try and argue the slippy slope towards unreasonable totalitarian censorship distorting Holla Forums in the processes. You could also argue that tolerating shit posting can also lead to the same destructive ends.

Well fuck you too nigger. Also Holla Forums has been Holla Forums with vidya for a long while now, and shows no signs of stopping. And every spin off board has failed, so I guess most people either like it this way or are just too lazy to migrate to a new board. Which is funny considering most of us cared enough to migrate to a whole new website first.

polyphony hasnt made anything worthwhile since tourist trophy

that was just a meme that people liable again Mark because they wanted to shut down any political distinction about the games industry. I hope you where not dub enough to actually believe it was actually true.

Nigger it's true, Holla Forums happily discusses everything but video games and it's been this way for years.

Because Nezumi is a kinky bitch

(you)

Faggot I actually don't like the off topic, but it is the way it is.

Better. The final answer.

yet (you) are the off-topic poster trying to justify the /fur/faggotry.. This thread was about video game graphics.

Even if I grant to you that:
then it fallows
therefore my initial point still stands

Also why are (you) are hopping id's as evidenced by

are

I am correcting your retardation, not defending off topic. And it's called a dynamic IP you gay nigger.

you are defending off topic.

its really just a matter of population. not laziness, but loneliness or a short attention span

Gaming in public is stupid. Try talking to other people or something, like you're a person.

Nigger if you can't be bothered to read why should I care about what you have to say?


That's also true, every other board is slow as fuck. But it's the spiral of "I don't post there cause it's slow, but it's slow because I don't post there"

Quentin was right about some things. I wonder where that man went off to.

Quentin was faggot who followed the logic of "mature games for mature gamers like myself". He's probably off diddling kids because those mean old japs made him into a pedo.

If the Japs are such good people then they'd probably have a better relationship with the Jews.

Is the one you make yourself for a specific game. Game "engines" put artfaggotry in control of the industry. Artfags put Jews in control of distribution. Jews streamlined the "engines" into shekel generators through microtransactions and gambling.

If your programmers can't program your game from scratch you're going to end up on the path of the Jew.

This is why I'm looking forward to game 3 from the guys who worked on Dustforce. They're a 4-5 man team and it's only taking 1 of them to make an engine from scratch while the rest make game 2 through a heavily modified unity engine. Also Devil Daggers (made by the same guy) runs on its own engine and it looks superb on it.

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Its not bait though.

Forza may have better road textures and environmental detail, but everywhere else GT Sport surpasses Forza 7, especially in the lighting department.

Okay, realistic graphic fidelity has reached it's peak. There's no other hill to climb
Can developers start making fun games again?

i like this pun

man you're so Jewish that I bet it would make Marks mother blush.

First off, quentin himself admitted to getting off to CP, so nice of you to show your newfaggotry. Secondly, everyone calls each other nigger here.

i would never use such a word. only a detestable stormnigger would think thats okay

Lol no because car manufacturers don't want their products to be shown damaged in video games anymore

One of the most glaring problems in that picture is that for reason the skin has unnaturally high specular reflection. Very likely not a technical limitation, but rather a case of the maker of said texture being a talentless hack.

lol quit baiting nigger.

That would explain why faggots get so triggered over typos and why do many of the people here have such shit taste in anime.

he was always furry in CG renders

yeah and the commercials were literally a guy in a fursuit

You need to update your weeb definition friendo.


Name one board about 100 IPs that doesn't crosspost on Holla Forums.

It's probably a little gay either way though.

Anime is poison. Get clean.

politics are a worse poison

this reminds me, back when I didn't know what furries were and I only had a ps3 and stolen wifi, I downloaded a bunch of porn of her because I played sly cooper and thought she was hot. Fast forward a couple of years after I got the YLOD and went to store to have it fixed and the guy said it was expensive so I should've just backupped all my shit on some external drive, I refused and walked out when I remembered all the furry shit I had.

I wanted to put a ton of gfur porn on my wii u but it didnt have a media mode loke the wii did.
Fuck using an emulator on it to manage things

>>>/out/

What if you're self-inserting as a trap getting ara'd?