How do we radicalize the states that went heavily in favor of Trump?

Nuclear weapons
Source: Posadas

easy. Arm the population and put lsd in the water

washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-class-in-america/2016/07/01/244ddb44-3e20-11e6-a66f-aa6c1883b6b1_story.html?utm_term=.3b0450ef3219

Well I wouldn't go that far, it's more like everywhere is an equally shit place to start

>washingtonpost.com/opinions/
Bourgie media trash seeking to divide the proles.

whew

True, but you still got the unions and pissed off people aspect of the Rust Belt that informs my view

Tell them they were right about decades of stagnant wages, corporate downsizing, and broken communities, and that these things are indeed a result of political and financial elites having a stranglehold over his country.
Point out how Trump appointed four former Goldman Sachs people to his cabinet after repeatedly criticizing Hillary and Obama for their ties to GS and Wall Street more generally.
Emphasize that no matter which party comes into power in Washington, even under the guise of a supposed "populist," Wall Street and K Street will always be protected.

A good place to start, at least.

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Consider the fact that a large portion of America didn't even vote for their monarch.

Radicalizing democraps are way easier than republicucks

Yeah I guess.

Honestly I just don't see any path to socialism anywhere.

The language of America is hatred. Organize the rural poor around loathing of the rich: all else will follow.

You say that as if you weren't fully aware that a similar centrist party in Weimar Germany didn't go against the leftists at the time

This article is worth a read
jacobinmag.com/2016/05/white-workers-bernie-sanders-clinton-primary-racism/

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Tell them "When you're white, you don't know what its like to live in a ghetto, you don't know what its like to be poor."

That'll work.

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Danke

Because the productive forces are more developed and people are less attached to Christian Capitalism.

The only reason leftists are even talking about the white working class is because the establishment media, both liberal and conservative, can't shut up about them.

Democrats are the ones who explicitly stated that they no longer need white working class voters to win elections (how wrong that turned out to be), while Republicans are obsessed with peeling away the white working class from the Democrats through racist dogwhistles and pseudo-populist posturing.

Leftists would love to talk about organizing the working class as a whole around a shared agenda, as we've always done, but it's hard to do that liberal pundits and Democratic operatives keep making bad faith arguments about how we only care about the "white working class." In reality, neither of the major parties care about the white working class, or the black working class, or the female working class, or the LGBT working class, or…

It's a pretty effective strawman, though, I'll give you that.

gee, I wonder who could be behind this post???

The unions are merely the reactionary left wing of Capital. They exist to mediate between labor and capital and provide no use in socialist society.

I can't believe that one quote did that much damage and it has come to represent everything "left" and left.

Hey, ever think about radicalizing the unions?

Their worldview is too bound up in Christian Capitalism to ever be receptive to socialism.

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holy shit please kill yourself

Writing off half the working class because you find them irredeemable is 1. Calvinist and 2. retarded

The language of politics is hatred. Carl Schmidt was right.

funny because a lot of them basically are Actual Calvinists.

The workers, by and large didn't vote for Trump or Hillary.

The poor, by and large don't vote.

The poor will be the fasting growing demographic as the middle class continues to die.

The left will win by focusing on the working poor.

Regardless, abandoning any section of the proletariat for their cultural values is a decidedly liberal sentiment

They literal voted for Trump because the working class there felt he was better for them than Hillary and they were right. Trump got rid of TPP where Hillary would not, went after Big Pharma when Hillary would not, essentially eliminating taxes for everyone who makes low mid income, makes all corporations angry because they can't abuse foreign labour as essential and skip over the domestic labour that desperately need jobs, and he didn't give a frightening leaked speech to Wall Street and get ridiculous donations from them. The democrats have completely abandoned the white working class and liberals are way harder to radicalize because they have far less of the working class and are stuck in bourgeois lifestylism.

we don't exactly have an infinite amount of time or resources here. In the not-too-distant future, it will be possible for porkies to defend their property without needing a human military or police force, and then we will all be fucked.

Why would I vote for gun grabbers and people who want to increase my taxes so Martinez and Tyrone get more gibs? Fuck off faggot.

Support Ellison and destroy the Democratic Party as soon as possible, then make the "Worker Party" or something like that and appeal to working class whites.

right

wrong

Honestly you need to kill yourself. People like you are the ones that ensure dems will lose every time.

ALL porkies all together now.

Even if you're an accelerationist, Trump literally has to be worse than Hillary for acceleration to happen.

If you're not an accelerationist and you actually think Trump is shaping up to be a pro-worker president, you need to crawl out from under that rock

Those inbreds are irredeemable

Let's focus on the city proles first

Right, which is why the proletariat must not refuse any allies on the basis of unfounded dogma regarding which cultures may and may not be radicalized

If you do not attempt to radicalize the rural whites for the causes of communism and anti-racism, they will inevitably become Trump's most fervent brownshirts

Your flair suits your post

Is a correct observation

Is counter revolutionary drivel which empowers fascism

boomers cucked fer hillary

no radical thinking needed, anyone against trump hasn't looked into things for themselves

or they have and want to paint us as violent fascist commies and the right as racist fascist nazis to ensure we fight their fight so they stay in power

we must unite as those in power divide us

.>cucked fer hillary
can you scum event spell right? LOL

When Trump fails, point out that there is no hope of shaking the capitalist-political exploiter class through electoral/legal means and the only way to get rid of DC/Mega-corps/banks is through direct action.

There, easy. All you had to do was give up the illusion that Democrats succeeding politically is good for the left.

1) Stop demonizing white people

2) Stop demonizing men

3) Understand that many of these people are smart and experienced and will not take kindly to you implying otherwise

4) University is more about indoctrination than education. Ideas that were forged in an academically sheltered environment that experiences no dissention will find purchase outside that environment

5) Accept that globalism is hurting some of these people and they will never support it

Push Trump further and further into authoritarian right wing reactionary imperialism. Encourage a war with Iran, encourage RWDS, encourage open violent racism, encourage porky to mock and bait proles with ostentatious displays of wealth. Create a clear line between service workers, skilled labor and then the petite bourgeoisie/upper classes. Show that Trump's constituents are chiefly upper middle class and upper class extraction/defense industries personnel. Ask them how they would deal with China and Saudi Arabia. Push the limits of their narrative until the psychopathy of the Trumpenreich is fully aired out.

dubs for y,our double standard

capitalyse yur shit, faM.

You are misrepresenting the truth brother.

1. yes

2. yes

3. yes

4. fair enough, though I'd argue that any "indoctrination" is established much earlier in education, unless you study economics or history in Uni in which case you're getting indoctrinated tenfold.

5. global capitalism, ie. "globalism" is something most, if not all socialists do and should disagree with. Global socialism would be a rather different concept that encourages cooperation rather than competition

No I consider the truth sacred.

Anyone who thinks Trump isn't right wing deepstate pro-Mega Corp extraction/defense industries is a lying shill. The Trumpenreich must be allowed to flourish and grow, to show its true colors. To become hated by the people and then removed like a weed.

Sage in all fields for liberal bait thread

I wish every fucking teenager making those counter-productive threads would be banned.

poor piggo :(
They are smarter than dogs. We definitely need to repurpose them.

fuck of back to reddit

Only opportunists care about the success of the Democratic Party on this board. As long as the remain a bourgeois party they are not worth supporting. If they ever went proletarian it would take an actual revolution to "win". Liberals on this board need to abandon their ideology already or fuck off.

Good, that party needs to be burned to the ground and have its supporters shot.